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I have an HD7 from T-Mobile supplied to me by my company for testing. I reside in Canada and would like to use this phone with my Bell Mobility account so I have successfully unlocked the HD7 based on the instructions provided to me from T-Mobile. I worked with Bell on getting the phone on the network and no matter what the technician did the phone always showed "No Service".
According to the Bell Website it says:
"Your device must be compatible - it must be HSPA (or UMTS) and 850 MHz and 1900 MHz compatible."
The T-Mobile specs shows the following:
"850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)"
The odd thing I find is that Bell Mobility released the HTC HD7 as one of their products a couple of weeks ago. So why wouldn't this phone just work on their network? Currently using it with my T-Mobile SIM it roams on the Rogers network so I assume that clearly states that the phone whould work with a Rogers SIM card, useless for me.
Is there anyway to get this phone to work with the Bell network? Would a custom ROM help in this situation?
Thanks!
Huh. I would not expect "no service" I would expect that you get 2G service but definitely not 3G.
I have used my unlocked TMOUS HD7 abroad and got 2G service in places w/o 2100 UMTS (similar to your situation Canada).
http://www.htcimeiunlock.com/
you could try the above site to unlock your phone
they worked for me was on O2 uk and got unlock code within less then 10 mins..
It wont work, as bell doesnt have a 2G GSM network bell uses it old CDMA network for 2G service and EVDO Rev A, for 3G along side its newly released HSPA+ network which runs on the 850Mhz band. As such a Tmobile US HD7 wont work with Bell, it will work on Rogers on its 2G GSM network. For you to use any new devices on Bell's HSPA network they would have to be from the following Carriers Telstra(Australia), ATT(USA), Rogers(CAN), Telus(CAN). Note for Telus they will have to be newer HSPA+ devices.
However as a side note you can run your TMobile HD7 on the new carriers, such as Videotron, WIND Mobile, Moblicity. All three carries use advance wireless service (AWS) frequencies.
I'm traveling to upstate NY next week, and I have my GT-I9000M (Bell Canada Vibrant) unlocked. Will T-Mobile's $1.49 mobile web day pass work with my phone?
I asked this question about 2 weeks ago, and the answer I got was:
Your phone should operate on T-Mobile's Voice Network,
If you want Data, you need AT&T,
Apparently our Bell(Mine SaskTel) I9000M's do not have the right radio to connect to the frequencies T-Mobile uses for their 3g network.
I picked up an At&t sim off ebay for $1 from a guy in Quebec, No problems activating it, no need for an american address. I was told to complete the activation the phone would have to be in At&t coverage however(for sim to receive activation info from servers) On pay as you go (go-phone) Att'2 deal isn't bad. You can get unlimited talk and text for $2 a day. But T-mobile's Data is a better deal, as Att is $0.01/Kb or $20/100Mb
Hope that helps
My understanding of everything is the following:
The GSM/EDGE radio in our I9000Ms is quad band 850/900/1800/1900MHz
The WCDMA (3G/HSPA/UMTS) radio is tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz)
Bell/TELUS/SaskTel et al in Canada use 3G/HSPA on 850/1900. No GSM/EDGE service.
Wind/Mobilicity/Public Mobile in Canada use 3G/HSPA on 1700/2100.
AT&T in US use 3G/HSPA/GSM/EDGE on 850/1900.
T-Mobile in US use 3G/HSPA on 1700/2100, GSM/EDGE on 1900.
Based on that: I think that our I9000Ms with a data-enabled SIM from TMo should connect, but only using EDGE. A data-enabled SIM from AT&T would connect using 3G/HSPA
Sounds right to me. If that is the case then I will most certaintly be picking up a T-mo sim, as they have a way better plan system for pay as you go!
Also interesting:
*#BAND# (*#2263#) typed into the dialer lets you select what frequency bands you want your phone to run in. The options appear to allow a WCDMA 900 band (FDD Band VIII), however, this one is switched off by default, while all others (GSM850/GSM900/DCS1800/PCS1900/WCDMA2100/WCDMA1900/WCDMA850) are switched on.
To see what band you're currently connected on, you can enter this into the dialer:
*#197328640#, then click on DEBUG SCREEN, then BASIC INFORMATION, and line 3 will list what band you're on.
I haven't seen my phone on anything but WCDMA 850 Band 5, or WCDMA 1900 Band 2, when connected to Bell Mobility Canada, in the south-central Ontario/GTA area.
racer26 said:
Based on that: I think that our I9000Ms with a data-enabled SIM from TMo should connect, but only using EDGE. A data-enabled SIM from AT&T would connect using 3G/HSPA
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not correct
T-mobile like Wind
they use AWS network for 3G data
AWS = 1700+2100 together
if you only have 1700 or only have 2100 it will not work at all
Isnt that what I just said?
T-Mobile operates a GSM/EDGE network in the 1900MHz band, as well as an AWS 3G/HSPA network in the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Wind (AFAIK), operates a AWS-only network in the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Bell/Telus operates a 3G/HSPA WCDMA network in the 850/1900MHz bands
AT&T operates a 3G/HSPA WCDMA network in the 850/1900MHz bands, as well as a GSM/EDGE network in the 850/1900MHz bands.
My Bell I9000m, which has GSM850/GSM900/DCS1800/PCS1900/WCDMA850/WCDMA1900/WCDMA2100 should connect on 3G to Bell, Telus, and AT&T. Should connect on GSM/EDGE to T-Mobile, and not at all to Wind. If I'm correct in my understanding.
I know it connects to Bell and Telus, as well as Fido in Canada. I've tried it.
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Wind (AFAIK), operates a AWS-only network in the 1700/2100MHz bands.
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Yes that's the Wind Home default
but you also have the Wind Away which runs on GSM/EDGE on 850 or 1900, but in reality it's roaming off Rogers network.
UPDATE: I have returned from Upstate NY where I purchased a T-Mobile PayAsYouGo SIM, and used the $1.49 Web DayPass on my GT-I9000M. It DOES work, however, T-Mo's EDGE network is (as-expected) slow. It also has a hard time operating well in a heavy rainstorm.
As I expected, I was only able to get an EDGE connection. No 3G.
Also convenient for I9000M owners to note: A SIM card will happily fit for storage behind the battery without impeding closure of the backplate. With my Bell SIM back in the phone now, the T-Mo SIM is stored behind the battery so I don't lose it.
EDIT: Also, when I re-entered Canada, and put my Bell SIM back in, it would only connect with "Emergency Calls Only" status, until I manually went into the Mobile Networks settings, and selected the first of the three "BELL" networks that show up. Interestingly, on Canadian soil with the T-Mo SIM, this menu sees "Bell" "Telus" and "CAN Rogers Wireless Inc" as networks to connect to, and when you try to select either of the second 2 "Bell" networks with the Bell SIM, it says the SIM wasnt recognized. Is the Bell SIM doing some weird re-naming of the Telus and Rogers nets?
Excellent! Thanks for confirming my suspicions. Although I already have an At&t sim, i will be picking up a T-mo sim as their data pass is a way better deal imo
Hello,
I have the Droid 3 with Verizon, unlocked, with verizon vodafone sim activated. I am currently in Canada, and am wondering why it will not connect to GSM/HSDPA towers.
If I go into the wireless and networks -> mobile networks -> Operator selection the phone will show me Rogers 2G, Rogers 3G, Bell, and Telus networks.
I also get this error for all three in the drop down menu, the name just changes:
No service
Selected network (CAN Rogers wireless inc. 3g) unavailable.
I have all the APN's entered for all three of those carriers, and can select them with an application named APN Manager, however none of those APN's show up in my wireless and networks -> mobile networks -> access point names. Both the vodafone APN's are unselected though.
I am looking to get on this GSM/HSDPA network, as when I am out in the country there is only 1x dial up internet on CDMA, and HSDPA available in the country.
If anyone can help me out, let me know!
Thanks much, in advance!
I have posted this exact same question at Howardforums. Here is the link to that thread:
/showthread.php/1736801-Q-Droid-3-GSM-Roaming
You will have to first go to howardforums website, then add the above part
Forgot to mention: I tried a Rogers and a Telus sim card and they both got calling service.
Not sure if Verizon has roaming agreement with any of the Canadian GSM networks. You can roam using CDMA here without any problem. I believe Telus is backing up Verizon here when it comes to CDMA.
If you want to use GSM you can put a SIM from any of the operators here (except AWS ones) and you will be fine since you have unlocked phone. Cheaper to use too, of course if using local SIM is an option for you. If you will be using local SIM you will need to define APNs or you won't get data connection. Head over Google for the settings for each of the operators here (Canada)
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leobg said:
Not sure if Verizon has roaming agreement with any of the Canadian GSM networks. You can roam using CDMA here without any problem. I believe Telus is backing up Verizon here when it comes to CDMA.
If you want to use GSM you can put a SIM from any of the operators here (except AWS ones) and you will be fine since you have unlocked phone. Cheaper to use too, of course if using local SIM is an option for you. If you will be using local SIM you will need to define APNs or you won't get data connection. Head over Google for the settings for each of the operators here (Canada)
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Thanks Leobg. I believe you are right that there is no roaming agreement for GSM, which makes sense. Verizon lady told me otherwise
This phone is going back though, as I was looking for some HSPA while in the country.
I was using Droid3 and Droid4 with Mexican SIMS, IUSACEL and TELCEL without problem. Now Im at Canada and Rogers SIM doesnt work on both phnes. I guess they are locked, can you describe me how to unlock where i do purchase unlocking codes?
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If you are on a contract with Verizon, you can ask them for unlock code,
Insert a sim card which it ain't accepting, enter the unlock code and its done.
Don't forget --- Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode -> GSM/UMTS
But I believe once unlocked, Verizon doesn't work on it.
It sounds like the SIM. Or try switching to CDMA. I think the Canadian carriers still have CDMA on their towers (used to a few years ago) and maybe that's the roaming the lady means.
So I have this phone (Samsung Galaxy Exhibit II 4G) from T-Mobile, I am on the 30$ monthly 4G plan with 100 minutes of talking, 5GB of 4G and Unlimited Texting. My question is since I recently tried to unlock my phone, but not sure if it was already unlocked since I purchased it through amazon and its the prepaid version of the phone, or if the sim just needs to be unlocked, whatever the case I am traveling to Europe next year and wanted to know if I can use this phone with the networks there. I just tried today going into the Select network option under wireless and networks and after searching for some time I had a choice between T-mobile and At&t and some how I acctually was able to connect to At&t even with my T-mobile sim card in it. So does this mean I can use it in Europe and just connect to networks there that way? I know its alot of money but I will fill up my account with money forsure before I go. Is it possible?:laugh:
Call TMobile and tell them your traveling to Europe and you need your phone unlocked. They will probably want to email you the unlock code.
When you get to europe set up a service and drop in their sim card. The Galaxy Exhibit (Exhibit 2) specs say it will work in Europe however, for some unknown reason, some people have problems.
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Call TMobile and tell them your traveling to Europe and you need your phone unlocked. They will probably want to email you the unlock code.
When you get to europe set up a service and drop in their sim card. The Galaxy Exhibit (Exhibit 2) specs say it will work in Europe however, for some unknown reason, some people have problems.
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Thanks for the reply! and I acctually did that and its been 3 days since I called asking for the unlock code and they said they would email it to me but no luck yet..its strange as to why unlockcell.com or something like that didnt work...But i meen something is already unlocked if I can search and connect to other networks other than Tmobile right? I connected to At&t just by going to the select network operator in android settings..
I can switch between carriers believe that would just be considered roaming.
I used this exact phone, Samsung Galaxy Exhibit ii 4G, somewhat successfully in Europe last year. This was the WalMart phone that I paid to unlock. Here's what I experienced.
The first try was in England with the O2 network. I popped in their SIM card. While I got the phone and texts to work I never got the internet to work. For some reason it did not automatically download the APN information. I tried manually loading that information and it still never worked. While it seemed it should have had internet access, it showed data transfer at the top of the screen, it was so sloooooow that it was useless. I had purchased the SIM card at a place called Carphone Warehouse. They ended up lending us a phone for about a month so we could use the SIM. I would recommend trying a different carrier than O2 and make sure before you leave the store that it's actually working or that you can get your money back if it doesn't or that you can get a loaner phone. BTW: there isn't much 4G in Europe either.
In Germany I bought a Tmobile SIM card and it worked find.
In Italy I bought a TIM SIM card. Again it did not properly download the APN data. But with a little online searching I found the correct APN information, manually loaded it in, and it worked fine.
Data usage in England, Germany, and Italy is actually fairly reasonable. Don't even consider it in France. First it costs 15 euros just for the SIM card and data cost per mb is horrendous.
Be sure to go to an actual phone store to buy your card and not a tobacco shop. At least at the phone stores you can get help if you are having trouble.
Caryllb said:
I used this exact phone, Samsung Galaxy Exhibit ii 4G, somewhat successfully in Europe last year. This was the WalMart phone that I paid to unlock. Here's what I experienced.
The first try was in England with the O2 network. I popped in their SIM card. While I got the phone and texts to work I never got the internet to work. For some reason it did not automatically download the APN information. I tried manually loading that information and it still never worked. While it seemed it should have had internet access, it showed data transfer at the top of the screen, it was so sloooooow that it was useless. I had purchased the SIM card at a place called Carphone Warehouse. They ended up lending us a phone for about a month so we could use the SIM. I would recommend trying a different carrier than O2 and make sure before you leave the store that it's actually working or that you can get your money back if it doesn't or that you can get a loaner phone. BTW: there isn't much 4G in Europe either.
In Germany I bought a Tmobile SIM card and it worked find.
In Italy I bought a TIM SIM card. Again it did not properly download the APN data. But with a little online searching I found the correct APN information, manually loaded it in, and it worked fine.
Data usage in England, Germany, and Italy is actually fairly reasonable. Don't even consider it in France. First it costs 15 euros just for the SIM card and data cost per mb is horrendous.
Be sure to go to an actual phone store to buy your card and not a tobacco shop. At least at the phone stores you can get help if you are having trouble.
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Are you able to connect to 2100mhz HSPA which is the 3G frequencies used in these countries. My understanding is that the phone is triband HSPA at 850/1700/1900 HSPA and wouldn't be compatible with the 2100mhz used in Europe. There is a small overlap between the 850mhz spec and the 900mhz so it might be possible if the winds were blowing right to get a 3G signal in some European country occasionally, but that you were mostly relegated to a 2G signal and that you should absolutely avoid carriers like 3 who had no 2g licenses.
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Are you able to connect to 2100mhz HSPA which is the 3G frequencies used in these countries. My understanding is that the phone is triband HSPA at 850/1700/1900 HSPA and wouldn't be compatible with the 2100mhz used in Europe. There is a small overlap between the 850mhz spec and the 900mhz so it might be possible if the winds were blowing right to get a 3G signal in some European country occasionally, but that you were mostly relegated to a 2G signal and that you should absolutely avoid carriers like 3 who had no 2g licenses.
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Actually it's a quad band phone.
GSmarena.com lists the full specs for this phone and they show this:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100 / 1900
I was getting 3G in Germany and Italy, no problem. Sometimes, depending upon where I was, it would drop down to Edge. I have no clue why it didn't work with the 3 network other than I just couldn't get the APN right. So for England, try a different network and make sure it's really a different network. Some of the carriers have the same names but are on the same network. When you can I'd suggest sticking with Tmobile. That way you're most likely to have it work. Oh, to get the SIM cards on the continent you usually need to have your passport to set up the account. So don't forget to bring that along when you go to the phone store.
Oh, when I said I tried the O2 network I actually meant the 3 network. Sorry about that. I stand corrected. I never did try O2.
All in all it worked pretty well. Usually the plans include around 200 mb data per month. So you do have to be careful as to how much you use your internet. Fortunately many McDonalds have free wifi these days. In Germany, however, you have to have a local phone number to use the McDonalds wifi because each time you want to use it they have to send you an SMS with a daily passcode and you only get 1 hour per day usage.
My understanding is that Europe used Band I HSPA (2100mhz) and that 1700/2100mhz was "Band IV" and something different:
Take a look at this Wikipedia article to see where I am coming from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I used this phone last month on a trip to Brazil with a local carrier, without any problem at all. Just like people on the thread said, you just need to call TMo and ask them about the unlock code, should be on your mailbox by next day. If you didn't get it, call them, 611, and use the option 9 to call straight to the operator, and tell them that you are traveling next week. However, to get the unlock code, you have to be using the phone on TMo for at least 3 months, or have someone that has a plan that has been active for such period.
Hi there my friend!
I went to US last month and brought one of this with me. I had to unlock it through an internet service because TMo SMS with unlock code never arrived – even though I called Costumer Service when I was at the US.
I can confirm that my cellphone worked with both 850 and 2100 frequencies. These are the two ones we have here in Brazil – actually, one of the operator uses 850/2100 and all other use 2100. I have one SIM of each operator and I tested them all with my SGE4G.
One little remark that I feel I should make although I almost know it does not matter: I never tested them with stock ROM since I flashed custom and AOSP since day one.
In Europe I used just the stock ROM. I hadn't even used the phone in the US at all so it didn't have any updates either. The only thing I did was unlock it. As I said it worked fine in Germany with Tmobile. Fine in Italy on TIM once I got the APN right. But never worked in England with 3. In England, try a different network than 3 and make sure the internet is really working before you leave the store. Otherwise you can't get your money back.
If you get the SIM at Cellphone Warehouse in England ask if you can get a "standby" phone to borrow if the SIM doesn't work in your phone. Their 'standby" phones aren't very powerful but at least you'd have something to use. You just need to return it to any of their stores when you leave.
The phone drops down to Edge when it wasn't in a 3G network. So I set up the browser to download text only, worked with mostly mobile only sites, and avoided all video. You need to do this anyway in most countries as your amount of data included in the monthly fee is very limited.
Hey,can any developers try to change the software of the radio so the phone work in asia&europe wcdma900/2100MHz
HELLO WORLD !!!!
AFTER A FEW MINUTES AND REASON FOR unwrap the HTC UNLOCK THE 10 WAS EASY WITH THE HELP OF A FRIEND TO USE XTC CLIP
THE PROBLEM WAS THAT WAS UNLOCKED THE HTC 10 BUT NOT ONLY CALL TO SAIL allowed
EVERYTHING IS WITHIN A BUG IN THE SYSTEM HTC 10
EXPECT THE RESOLVE IN FUTURE UPDATES
* STEPS TO FOLLOW :
1- ENTERING APN settings Mobile
APN 2- ENTERING YOUR OPERATOR FOR EXAMPLE THE MINE WAS CLARO EL SALVADOR
3- USE IN THE APN APN: BA.AMX
4 IN THE TYPE OF WRITE DEFAULT APN
5- TYPE OF CARRIER IN THE FOLLOWING SELECTED
WAY :
GPRS / HSDPA / HSPA / UMTS / HSUPA / HSPAP / EDGE
6 - POWER ON AND OFF PLANE MODE AND READY
WE FINISHED
I HOPE THEY SERVE MY CONTRIBUTION
It IS THE FIRST OF MANY
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HELLO WORLD !!!!
AFTER A FEW MINUTES AND REASON FOR unwrap the HTC UNLOCK THE 10 WAS EASY WITH THE HELP OF A FRIEND TO USE XTC CLIP
THE PROBLEM WAS THAT WAS UNLOCKED THE HTC 10 BUT NOT ONLY CALL TO SAIL allowed
EVERYTHING IS WITHIN A BUG IN THE SYSTEM HTC 10
EXPECT THE RESOLVE IN FUTURE UPDATES
* STEPS TO FOLLOW :
1- ENTERING APN settings Mobile
APN 2- ENTERING YOUR OPERATOR FOR EXAMPLE THE MINE WAS CLARO EL SALVADOR
3- USE IN THE APN APN: BA.AMX
4 IN THE TYPE OF WRITE DEFAULT APN
5- TYPE OF CARRIER IN THE FOLLOWING SELECTED
WAY :
GPRS / HSDPA / HSPA / UMTS / HSUPA / HSPAP / EDGE
6 - POWER ON AND OFF PLANE MODE AND READY
WE FINISHED
I HOPE THEY SERVE MY CONTRIBUTION
It IS THE FIRST OF MANY
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Data will support LTE in your country? Thanks
in my country there is no LTE but it may work with LTE in America or the world
It does not work me correctly
I have a htc 10 sprint 2PS64 already do everything and I could remove the SIMLOCK from sprint I can recognize the mobile signal but I can not navigate I do not appear the data option perform the step that shows and I appeared a G but then not appeared More and I want to know if LTE works
CDMA: 1900MHz
GSM / EDGE: 850 MHz / 1900 MHz
********** **** 3G: 850 MHz
************** LTE: 1700 MHz / 2100 MHz (Band 4 AWS)
The question is: Bands support??? UMTS and LTE???
Thanks
i don't understand how to do it
can you take screenshot from the access point pleas
thx i will try it and feed you back
i hope that works as i tried every thing from sim unlock using NV to de-branding but nothing works
Hi I seem to encounter the same situation, cannot get data for sim unlocked GSM for Sprint HTC10...here's some background info. I have 2 HTC10 purchased about 1 year ago (Phone A & B). At time of purchase I performed the NV sim unlock and verified data (freedompop att) on both.
Phone A (BL unlocked/s-on/factory recovery) is on stock Sprint ROM and GSM data works perfectly by adding the custom APN settings. On latest build.
Phone B (BL unlocked/s-on/twrp) is main phone was shorty twrp when purchased, ran BadBoyz rom for about a year on Sprint. Recently added FP sim back in & it would "show" to HSPA via signalchecker but mobile data could NEVER connected (even w/apn settings). Same SIM would work on Phone A. Had Sprint push out sim unlock just to be safe which was done successfully, same issue. So i thought maybe something screw up and RUU back to latest and still had same problem. Factory & network resets didn't fix either.
Been reading on the forums and seems like other people have the same issue, the only solution that I've seen mention was to flash a custom rom (non-Sprint?). Anyways after flashing Leedroid, it did finally worked, had mobile data attached via apn.
Anyways any ideas from anyone why mobile data GSM will not work/attach on some sim unlocked phones? I believe I returned Phone B back to factory but it behaves differently from Phone A.