With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)
Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.
Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.
flammenwurfer said:
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
flammenwurfer said:
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
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So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg
The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.
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I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?
I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.
flammenwurfer said:
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
flammenwurfer said:
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....
Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.
I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.
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And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)
Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".
I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.
I've been looking throughout the forums and Google and haven't found anything definitive about a browser that will enable me to watch streaming video to my HD7. I'm pretty sure adobe will eventually come with a update so IE can support it but is there currently an app browser out that supports flash? Skyfire pansied out from what I hear and doesn't support any WinMo and uZard is only for 6.x. Am I stuck with YouTube app for now?
I think no one yet. I've already searched and we should wait adobe give us flash support. i think i was better with my WinMo6.1 device and uZard Web
uZard was at most ok for now, but I would have alot of issues with it accessing sites like Facebook and being the servers from my understanding, are located in Korea. So me located in Maine, my data speed suffered greatly. I couldn't stand the bug when I would close uZard without switching back to regular mode from landscape mode. Right now I've been using YouTube App and just downloading the videos and just watching them on the player, but sometime I hate to wait. Someone needs to stick a firework in Adobe's ass. They would be making so much money with flash support for WP7!!
I don't think it's all necessarily Adobe's fault. IE on WP7 doesn't support plug-iins yet. So maybe when Mango drops, people's prayers will be answered
I do think flash will never come to windows phone, because it is a security risk! And closed OS must have a lot of security.
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SL55
OK what the ---- is this stagefright business people keep talking about.
I've followed a number of threads where people argue about the correct settings, then claim that it either fixes or doesn't fix various video playback issues. Now I see the overcome 2.1 changelog has stagefright tweaks integrated.
I've never touched those settings outside of a stock overcome install, and I've never had any video playback issues including x264 in mp4 containers encoded at at least normal profile (I know its not baseline, as the files won't play on my atrix lol but it does play on my tab).
What gives?
Stagefright is the new media framework by google. They started it in Froyo and apparently they haven't even finished it in Gingerbread lol ;P. They are supposed to enhance playback of media files but due to the fact that it is still an unfinished products enabling all stagefright settings tend to break playback for some video formats. I have been conducting some serious testing to see which settings work and which are still broken. I reached a conclusion that stagefright-http (enabled by default in stock ROM as well) and that stagefright rtsp are the best working settings that smoothens video playback in streaming websites. Other settings are still unfinished and activating them tend to break video playback for some file formats.
I hope that answers your questions.
OK cheers. I guess I'm just lucky then. Looking forwards to the next overcome. thanks again
Will the new Overcome roms have the optimum setting already?
Yes they will as per changelog.
How can I change the settings in oc 2.0.1 hermes?
Tried blade buddy and saw a stagefright http setting but no rtmp one.
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Archos 80/101 G9, A70B
Firmware changes
Version 3.2.79 - January 10th, 2011
Video: improve MPEG2 video playback
Archos widget: avoid widget stuck on sandglass happening sometimes
File manager: re-allow to copy a file from Network
Web browser: add a 'Keep screen ON' option in Browser
Display: fix backlight not on at wakeup from suspend on some A101 happening at low backlight level
Display: remove some seldom UI freeze during animations
Battery: avoid shutdown at suspend wakeup happening sometimes
Hard drive: avoid suspend/resume issues happening sometimes
Hard drive: prevent loss of hard drive during video playback happening sometimes
I guess you mean 2012 ;-)
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But ill get it right away thanks for the info
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Installed today 3.2.79 on Archos 101 G9, without any problem
Nothing to signal, seems to be OK
is it just me or did anyone notice that the home screens always shown in the apps menu?
I noticed this after i updated my device.
it's not problem for me, just curious though
Good remark, it's the same for me, with 3.2.79
I've an Archos 101 G9 Turbo, but I don't get this update :S.
How I can get the update?
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I've an Archos 101 G9 Turbo, but I don't get this update :S.
How I can get the update?
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You can download it directly from the Archos website. Support --> Downloads --> Firmware then select the G9
Everything is remarkable faster now. No more youtube crashes, no more ZDF Mediathek crashes, homescreen slides now absolutely fluently. Great Job Archos.
This was the update i was waiting for.
Too funny that this general increase in "speed" isnt mentioned in the release notes.
Just to let you know: With this firmware (3.2.79), you can do Paul's root Tested today!
So google silently pushed out a update without putting it in their blog first (strange), but I thought id make a thread for people to post noticeable changes and such. So far from my searching, ive found:
Better TV output detection (probably to fix the black screen bug people have reported)
Updated netflix & eureka_shell binary
Still does not fully use V2 API, so V1 apps still work
I am guessing this was just a patch fix build. Let me know what you guys notice.
doesn't matter as device still refuses to join network.
edit: odd. ran CCast app on pc. booted up straight away. what ever works i guess.
It now supports audio when casting entire screen. Not very high quality.
I find full screen casting better than tab casting. Text are sharper and focused compared to tab casting. Watched a 720p movie on full screen... No sync issues. Casting full screen notification hides behind video player, when player uses full screen mode.
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Hi everyone, from that my chromecast got the new update is not able to play netflix, does anyone has the same problem?
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So google silently pushed out a update without putting it in their blog first (strange), but I thought id make a thread for people to post noticeable changes and such. So far from my searching, ive found:
Better TV output detection (probably to fix the black screen bug people have reported)
Updated netflix & eureka_shell binary
Still does not fully use V2 API, so V1 apps still work
I am guessing this was just a patch fix build. Let me know what you guys notice.
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I got this update like a week before.
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