Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone can offer advice in relation to the shutter speed and auto focus on the galaxy note.
I have come from an iPhone 4 and one of the main issues I'm noticing is that the ability to autofocus and snap a quick photo on the galaxy note is non existent? unless I'm on a non moving target ?
To autofocus seems to take several milliseconds to respond vs iPhone which was almost instantaneous, enabling you to take better shots etc.
Are there some settings that can be changed on the note camera?
Many thanks
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Im coming from a iphone4 too but ummm didn't really notice to lag in the focus times. Maybe its a firmware issue ?
Definitely a difference, auto focusing and snapping photos on the note vs iPhone 4 is considerably slower
Will hope that ics resolves
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I came from an iPhone 4. First of all, the Note is much better.
Now the camera on the iPhone had a quick 'original' auto focus, ie the first thing it focused on was quick but the rest took a while and the autofocus event would take a while.
I find on the Note that I have to wait a bit longer for it to realise it needs to change focus, but it does it very quickly. I personally focus manually as its quick and easy on the note.
Side note, I've also found that the Note has a smaller focus range, ie it can do better macro shots.
Cheers
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How to off the shutter sound without root?
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Silence mode .
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I'm an ex-iphone 4 user, and the camera on the iPhone 4 is theoretically faster. But what I notice with the note is that I can take a picture and maybe the shutter doesn't close as fast, but the intended picture is the one that is taken. I believe the shutter takes the data from the lense, then shows you the shutter. I have taken pictures of my bird who loves to move around a lot, and when I take the picture he is in one position, and then while the camera is showing the animation for the shutter, he moves into another position but the picture is of the one I intended it (especially after manual focusing which I always do. I never let the software do it. Neither the Note nor the oh so glorified iPhone did a fantastic job of it).
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what I notice with the note is that I can take a picture and maybe the shutter doesn't close as fast, but the intended picture is the one that is taken. I believe the shutter takes the data from the lense, then shows you the shutter. I have taken pictures of my bird who loves to move around a lot, and when I take the picture he is in one position, and then while the camera is showing the animation for the shutter, he moves into another position but the picture is of the one I intended it
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This is my experience too.
for me. only noticed that by the time I press the button. The capturing takes close to a sec. Before this, best don't move about. Once the shutter is animating, any movement won't affect the picture grade.
Only made one think that taking picture is kind of slow.
Thanks guys, will try manual focusing.on a side note, does anyone know why the music player stops when you enter the camera application? This annoys me as I often take photos when out walking, and listening, to music at the same time
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Oh one more question, how do you manually focus? Is that when you hold down you're finger on the screen rather than just pressing the camera button to take the shot?
Thank you
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Didnt know if i should have made seperate threads for each question... Here goes:
Camera
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- is this same camera as SG2? Seems better
- i noticed the galaxy nexus' camera takes multiple single shots at a very high succession rate.. is that contributed because of diff cameras or ice cream sammich's awesomeness?
- i also notice that when im taking photos, it looks amazing right before the shot..(veeeeery sharp) but right after i take the shot, the photo loses its ultra sharpness.
- i also notice this happening on all of my previous android phones
- is this a samsung/android camera app thing? are there better camera app alternatives?
TouchWiz
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- I know theres themes and all that funk for other launchers.. but any way to modify/theme TW? .. I love TW and wouldnt really change anything other than theme it.
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Can only answer that the lost focus in taking pictures may be due to shaky hands, focusing mechanism becomes confused as a result..there is a setting which allows for shake reduction; try it, see any differences?
Everytime I see a camera question/comment I am always curious about the issue. Someone always suggests a fix like the one below, whether it's use or settings.
I'm not blaming the respondents, but people need to understand that there is a problem with SOME Notes concerning autofocus. I keep coming back here to try to find a possible software solution, but it's very possible one of the camera vendors simply supplying Note cameras with bonky autofocus in the hardware.
I appreciate the fact that MOST Notes appear to have wonderful cameras, so to those of you, please be aware there is no simple solution to fixing the camera problem that SOME of us are experiencing.
Note (ha!) also that this extends to the Galaxy SII. There are a couple threads in their forum discussing similar camera issues, even though the two phones have different camera modules, and lack of progress getting Samsung to even acknowledge there could be a problem.
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Can only answer that the lost focus in taking pictures may be due to shaky hands, focusing mechanism becomes confused as a result..there is a setting which allows for shake reduction; try it, see any differences?
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Can only answer that the lost focus in taking pictures may be due to shaky hands, focusing mechanism becomes confused as a result..there is a setting which allows for shake reduction; try it, see any differences?
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Before i jumped to conclusion i tested it w/ a tripod
I cant enable Anti shake for some reason..
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Before i jumped to conclusion i tested it w/ a tripod
I cant enable Anti shake for some reason..
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anti-shake won't work if you set some parameters especially the ISO value manually! reason: anti-shake does nothing more then trying to reduce the "shutter time", for that higher sensitivity is needed. therefore, if the cam is not being able to use a higher ISO setting anti-shake wont be available!
Hi, I mostly use my camera for taking pics of my toddler and thus I need a fast shutter whats the best way to achieve this on my XZ without root?
I have found my wifes 18 month old arc s has a faster shutter speed..
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Hi, I mostly use my camera for taking pics of my toddler and thus I need a fast shutter whats the best way to achieve this on my XZ without root?
I have found my wifes 18 month old arc s has a faster shutter speed..
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Make a picture of the same object/area compare the pictures and tell us if you really need a faster shutter.
The pictures I've seen from the XZ were really really good. Of course there is a lot of noise when you look at the picture in full resolution, but it's not a DSLR.
Picture topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172712&page=49
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Make a picture of the same object/area compare the pictures and tell us if you really need a faster shutter.
The pictures I've seen from the XZ were really really good. Of course there is a lot of noise when you look at the picture in full resolution, but it's not a DSLR.
Picture topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172712&page=49
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Toddlers don't stay still for very long so yes faster shutter speed is better. quality is really good that's not a problem.
You need more light or a higher iso speed(more grain).
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tried my brothers s4 his shutter speed is faster too...
I know what you mean. Having kids you see why it's great having a smartphone that can take pictures fast and clear.
Yes, I have a dedicated camera but I don't take it everywhere I do my smartphone.
I'm know of apps that can take fast pictures but I think it also depends on if your camera supports it. Good luck. If you find one that helps you should share it in case it helps someone else.
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Has anyone tried using burst mode? It seems to make sense that the shutter speed would be faster for that.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong as I don't know much about cameras apart from how to point and shoot!
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Has anyone tried using burst mode? It seems to make sense that the shutter speed would be faster for that.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong as I don't know much about cameras apart from how to point and shoot!
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the first picture is still very slow I downloaded an app called fast burst camera and it takes pictures quite fast. so the camera is capable just the software is poor.
You need a galaxy nexus, it have zero shutter lag
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Hi, I mostly use my camera for taking pics of my toddler and thus I need a fast shutter whats the best way to achieve this on my XZ without root?
I have found my wifes 18 month old arc s has a faster shutter speed..
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ditch this phone and get the Lumia 720 with F1.9
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You need a galaxy nexus, it have zero shutter lag
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Shutter lag and shutter speed are different things
I have a feeling the OP means shutter lag.
The Galaxy Nexus isn't particularly fast, they changed it so it auto focuses before taking the photo (which it didn't at launch) because otherwise all you got were blurry pictures. The Nexus 4 auto focuses than the Galaxy Nexus faster and thus takes the picture quicker. The Xperia Z auto focuses the fastest out of the 3.
The Z's camera starts up much much slower.
In terms of shutter speed you could just set a higher iso to force the camera to pick a lower shutter speed?
My XZ has almost zero shutter lag with Cyanogenmod
shutter lag = time between you press "take picture" and time the picture is taken ?
On my old Xperia X10i you culd change the Focus from Macro or Auto to Infinite and shutter lag was nearly Zero.
Same works on Xz if you switch to Burst Mode.
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shutter lag = time between you press "take picture" and time the picture is taken ?
On my old Xperia X10i you culd change the Focus from Macro or Auto to Infinite and shutter lag was nearly Zero.
Same works on Xz if you switch to Burst Mode.
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I'm talking about the time between when you press the take picture button to the time it takes it. Xperia arc s,s3 s4 HTC one are ask faster.
so this is quite messed up
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I'm talking about the time between when you press the take picture button to the time it takes it. Xperia arc s,s3 s4 HTC one are ask faster.
so this is quite messed up
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That's shutter lag. It's almost instant with Cyanogenmod so the problem on stock rom must be because on Sony's camera app, try a different app.
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That's shutter lag. It's almost instant with Cyanogenmod so the problem on stock rom must be because on Sony's camera app, try a different app.
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high speed camera is almost instant but why can't Sony implement it? such an important thing and they've neglected it.
I find if you keep the camera button pressed it will focus the camera and when you release it it will take a picture very quickly.
Interesting never knew this before, still not as good as instantly pressing the button so it takes a pic in half a second but its good enough,
Anyone have any suggestions for any camera apps that are quick and have low shutter lag? I'm not looking for any fancy effects or anything, just an ability to take photos quickly.
I noticed that the default Moto Camera has a lot of shutter lag.
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Anyone have any suggestions for any camera apps that are quick and have low shutter lag? I'm not looking for any fancy effects or anything, just an ability to take photos quickly.
I noticed that the default Moto Camera has a lot of shutter lag.
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I would also be interested if you find out anything. I've tried the Google stock camera as well, but not sure it's any better. Other possibilities are VCSO Camera or Camera FV-5. Whatever you try and find out, I'd appreciate your thoughts on it. I've tried both, but couldn't say for certain if it was quicker and haven't sat down to methodically test them.
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I would also be interested if you find out anything. I've tried the Google stock camera as well, but not sure it's any better.
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I was taking pictures at a family BBQ and the lag on the stock camera was between 1 and 3 seconds. Half the pics don't even have the person I was photographing in them. By the time it shot the pic, they had already moved on.
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+1
I was taking pictures at a family BBQ and the lag on the stock camera was between 1 and 3 seconds. Half the pics don't even have the person I was photographing in them. By the time it shot the pic, they had already moved on.
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Heh, I totally feel you. I have a 10 month old kid that I want to get pictures of while he's doing things, and the shutter lag means lots and lots of blurry pictures. I've often wondered, why is it that we cannot simply pull stills from video? For example, engage a "high-speed camera mode" that captures video for a brief period (~1-3 seconds) and breaks it up as stills that you can then choose. I imagine the image quality in the stills is poor and that you don't notice it while it's in playback mode, but less-than-ideal stills may still be better than blurred single shots. Just a thought... my knowledge of photography is very poor, so I imagine there are definite reasons why this hasn't been done, but I am curious.
Hello, I thought we should have a topic like other devices do. In general I'm not happy with quality of pictures, so much noise especially indoors, also lack of ios is visible with most shots.
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Hello, I thought we should have a topic like other devices do. In general I'm not happy with quality of pictures, so much noise especially indoors, also lack of ios is visible with most shots.
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I actually really like the quality of pictures, I previously had a M7, and I can tell you that you really can see the difference between the ultrapixel and the 13MPX of the mini 2. Maybe indoors pictures with low light are a little bit noisy (that's where the ultrapixel goes better, of course), but I wouldn't say it's a problem.
Yeah,the pictures are quite alright,the camera app tends to go crazy for a moment then you get a all white out picture,maybe the problem lies in the fact that I was moving the phone around and it didn't have time to automatically focus and the other stuff it does before I took the pic.
Alright after couple days spent with the phone and ota updated recently I still reckon that pictures quality are far from good. I can't take a still picture all the time, every single picture is moved.
It is slightly better when 2 seconds countdown used.
When anti shake mode used there is a lot strange artifacts that looks awful.
Maybe my hands are shaking a bit more than others but consider that pictures are of still object, when shooting moving object pictures are much worse. Maybe some of you guys have an idea how to set manual mode to get pictures at least off acceptable quality? Many thanks
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Alright after couple days spent with the phone and ota updated recently I still reckon that pictures quality are far from good. I can't take a still picture all the time, every single picture is moved.
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Maybe my hands are shaking a bit more than others but consider that pictures are of still object, when shooting moving object pictures are much worse. Maybe some of you guys have an idea how to set manual mode to get pictures at least off acceptable quality? Many thanks
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I am not getting moved photos in my case, i don't understand very well. But I have noticed that you have to leave it on the object 2 seconds before taking the picture, so that it can focus, otherwise sometimes the picture is moved
Can someone post more pictures taken with One mini 2, I would like to compare amount of noise, many thanks
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Hi.
We all want better camera control and access to manual controls for our Note 4 camera.
Google has made that possible with Camera API 2 in Android 5. But Samsung decided not to implement that into they're Android 5 build for Note 4.
This will give us Manual shutter control, more ISO control, Manual blender and so on.
I have started a petition at: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/implement-camera-api-2-in-note-4-firmware
Please sign
yeah i really want this camera2 api, i really love the custom controls on my Lumia would be perfect if they came to the note too.
I want to vote but the page you linked is not availible
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yeah i really want this camera2 api, i really love the custom controls on my Lumia would be perfect if they came to the note too.
I want to vote but the page you linked is not availible
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ups. link fixed
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I want this too, sure.. But isn't there a way a developer can actually transfer part of the camera firmware from the s6 to the note 4?
@arovik
Petition should also Include
-Fast Firmwares Updates
-Update Apps like Gallery and Launcher just like HTC and Sony Do
Camera2 API would be perfect, but let's face it, Samsung will not react to an online petition and give us what we want.
As far as I know the Galaxy S6 supports Camera2 API, so chances are high that we'll get a Note 5 in autumn that will also support it.
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I want this too, sure.. But isn't there a way a developer can actually transfer part of the camera firmware from the s6 to the note 4?
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No no.. Closed source Sammy firmware that controls the hardware.. It would be awesome (and incredibly difficult) for a Dev to implement something like this.
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Camera2 API would be perfect, but let's face it, Samsung will not react to an online petition and give us what we want.
As far as I know the Galaxy S6 supports Camera2 API, so chances are high that we'll get a Note 5 in autumn that will also support it.
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Yes S6 does (but still NOT 100%)..Figures! Still no manual shutter and one other of the main api's (can't remember which one)
But yes you're right Sammy won't do anything about a petition.
I was however practically praying for this before their LP firmware came out! But of course Sammy didn't and I just don't know why! (left out multi-users from LP too)
But this is so sweet in LP and gives their more advanced users the pro/manual controls we all crave!
Especially this camera (which for the most part is incredible but has one major flaw) where the shutter speed is way too damn slow.. It's indoor/lower lighting shooting just causes way too much motion blur - basically my one major gripe with this awesome phone.. Us with kids who like to take lots of indoor candid shots (and lighting isn't absolutely perfect as Sammy expects) will often get motion blur in parts even with the slightest movements.. Better hope your subjects stay immaculately still and don't breathe, flinch, move an inch lol!
Damn I want Camera2 on this.. Maybe (if ever) on 5.1.x? Probably not though.. Note5 and flagships beyond
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No no.. Closed source Sammy firmware that controls the hardware.. It would be awesome (and incredibly difficult) for a Dev to implement something like this.
Yes S6 does (but still NOT 100%)..Figures! Still no manual shutter and one other of the main api's (can't remember which one)
But yes you're right Sammy won't do anything about a petition.
I was however practically praying for this before their LP firmware came out! But of course Sammy didn't and I just don't know why! (left out multi-users from LP too)
But this is so sweet in LP and gives their more advanced users the pro/manual controls we all crave!
Especially this camera (which for the most part is incredible but has one major flaw) where the shutter speed is way too damn slow.. It's indoor/lower lighting shooting just causes way too much motion blur - basically my one major gripe with this awesome phone.. Us with kids who like to take lots of indoor candid shots (and lighting isn't absolutely perfect as Sammy expects) will often get motion blur in parts even with the slightest movements.. Better hope your subjects stay immaculately still and don't breathe, flinch, move an inch lol!
Damn I want Camera2 on this.. Maybe (if ever) on 5.1.x? Probably not though.. Note5 and flagships beyond
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They'll do nothing about it on the Note 4 and market it as a new feature on the Note 5.
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They'll do nothing about it on the Note 4 and market it as a new feature on the Note 5.
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simple .. i ll buy a nexus or an htc or a sony
Count me in!!!!!!!!!
Count me 2
electech13 said:
No no.. Closed source Sammy firmware that controls the hardware.. It would be awesome (and incredibly difficult) for a Dev to implement something like this.
Yes S6 does (but still NOT 100%)..Figures! Still no manual shutter and one other of the main api's (can't remember which one)
But yes you're right Sammy won't do anything about a petition.
I was however practically praying for this before their LP firmware came out! But of course Sammy didn't and I just don't know why! (left out multi-users from LP too)
But this is so sweet in LP and gives their more advanced users the pro/manual controls we all crave!
Especially this camera (which for the most part is incredible but has one major flaw) where the shutter speed is way too damn slow.. It's indoor/lower lighting shooting just causes way too much motion blur - basically my one major gripe with this awesome phone.. Us with kids who like to take lots of indoor candid shots (and lighting isn't absolutely perfect as Sammy expects) will often get motion blur in parts even with the slightest movements.. Better hope your subjects stay immaculately still and don't breathe, flinch, move an inch lol!
Damn I want Camera2 on this.. Maybe (if ever) on 5.1.x? Probably not though.. Note5 and flagships beyond
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This is my biggest problem. Shots during the day are fantastic, but anything in "less than outside light" (not low light...) come out ... Meh... I had the 930 and the 1520, wow, those took FANTASTIC photos! In almost every lighting condition. And EVERY Review for the Note 4 said how it was just as good or better... I couldn't believe they said that... The Note 4 camera leaves a lot to be desired in the camera department. I hope they fix this. If they don't, since I change devices frequently, I can promise my next device WON'T be a Samsung device. Other than that, and the lousy lag for recent apps and reviewing picture after taking it on the camera (all very well documented), I'm very happy.
Bring Camera2.0!
The problem with too slow shutter speeds can be controlled to some extend.
When I use a real camera with a fixed focal length lens, I have control over shutter speed, aperture and ISO. This 3 variables mainly define the outcome of my picture.
On a smartphone the aperture is fixed, so only 2 variables are available in theory: Shutter speed and ISO.
If I increase the shutter speed, there is less time for the light to hit my sensor, to compensate this, I have to increase the ISO (and get more noise), but moving subjects will be less blurry. Unfortunately we need camera2 API to do this.
BUT: as ISO and shutter speed are directly related I can do it the other way round. If you increase the ISO the shutter speed will also increase, so setting the ISO to the highest value (and not "auto") will increase noise in your picture, but it will also increase the shutter speed.
You can also trick the metering to increase the shutter speed even more, by adjusting the exposure value ("EV"). If you decrease the EV by -1, your picture will be darker as you requested the camera to collect less light by doing so, but this will lead to an increase of the shutter speed as well.
Last but not least you can add more light by forcing the LED-flash to fire no matter what.
The app "Camera FV-5" allows to set a fixed ISO of 1600 while the stock camera app limits this to ISO 800.
You may want to try this out, if you're taking pictures of your moving kids indoors.
One more thing: If noise becomes too bad you may try to convert the image to black and white. As color noise is not an issue in b/w images, your image may look much better as in color (luminance noise will still be present though).
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The problem with too slow shutter speeds can be controlled to some extend.
When I use a real camera with a fixed focal length lens, I have control over shutter speed, aperture and ISO. This 3 variables mainly define the outcome of my picture.
On a smartphone the aperture is fixed, so only 2 variables are available in theory: Shutter speed and ISO.
If I increase the shutter speed, there is less time for the light to hit my sensor, to compensate this, I have to increase the ISO (and get more noise), but moving subjects will be less blurry. Unfortunately we need camera2 API to do this.
BUT: as ISO and shutter speed are directly related I can do it the other way round. If you increase the ISO the shutter speed will also increase, so setting the ISO to the highest value (and not "auto") will increase noise in your picture, but it will also increase the shutter speed.
You can also trick the metering to increase the shutter speed even more, by adjusting the exposure value ("EV"). If you decrease the EV by -1, your picture will be darker as you requested the camera to collect less light by doing so, but this will lead to an increase of the shutter speed as well.
Last but not least you can add more light by forcing the LED-flash to fire no matter what.
The app "Camera FV-5" allows to set a fixed ISO of 1600 while the stock camera app limits this to ISO 800.
You may want to try this out, if you're taking pictures of your moving kids indoors.
One more thing: If noise becomes too bad you may try to convert the image to black and white. As color noise is not an issue in b/w images, your image may look much better as in color (luminance noise will still be present though).
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I know all this stuff as I use DSLR's a lot but those are all unfortunate work-a-rounds or bands aids for this phone.
Other then the fixed aperture Camera2 would give access to everything else and open up a lot of possibilities.
The S6 and G4 with their f1.9 and f1.8 apertures respectively are insane.. Makes a big difference. S6 pics are phenomenal and what I've seen in G4 reviews are even better, especially in low light!
Btw I love Camera FV-5 and Snap HDR.. Amazing apps and help a bit but this note can't access all of their amazing features... Due to no camera2 of course... Grrrr
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This is my biggest problem. Shots during the day are fantastic, but anything in "less than outside light" (not low light...) come out ... Meh... I had the 930 and the 1520, wow, those took FANTASTIC photos! In almost every lighting condition. And EVERY Review for the Note 4 said how it was just as good or better... I couldn't believe they said that... The Note 4 camera leaves a lot to be desired in the camera department. I hope they fix this. If they don't, since I change devices frequently, I can promise my next device WON'T be a Samsung device. Other than that, and the lousy lag for recent apps and reviewing picture after taking it on the camera (all very well documented), I'm very happy.
Bring Camera2.0!
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Yep... It sucks.. There are so many who think this is literally the best camera ever and go on and on.. And it is good but that one (in my case) big scenario, it really sucks! It was made for perfect lighting and if so the shots are incredible.
Sure.. Crank up the ISO all the way and get a super noise filled shot or try the useless "sport mode" lol.. Even then, shutter still too slow
heh just checked back on this topic and it's going great guys, we will have api2 in 2075 if we kep em going like this
But seriously, we need to spread the word for this petition or nothing will happen.
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heh just checked back on this topic and it's going great guys, we will have api2 in 2075 if we kep em going like this
But seriously, we need to spread the word for this petition or nothing will happen.
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serious, nothing will happen anyways, petition or not. Do you guys seriously think Samsung will care about the 0.0001 % of users who actually know what Camera V2 compatibility is. If you want really want it, buy a Note 5 in a couple of months or S6/edge if you want it now. Let's face it Note 4 is already outdated