Upgrade from galxy s2, worth it? - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can upgrade myself to galaxy note by adding about 50 $...
Should I do it? Is it worth it?
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I would never hesitate for a minute.
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Depends on what you want to do with it. Do you need the extra screen real estate, do you have use for the stylus. What I did? I went to a shop and played a while with the note. Tried the stylus, the extra software that comes with it, the new calendar and most of all...the size of the device. I decided to buy the Note because it was more productive than my S2. Keep in mind that the Note feels a little slower than a S2.
No one else can make the decision for you...you have to give it a try yourself, if possible.

On the stylus issue.. Anyway I can link it up to a pc?
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try it out. Its mostly an yes but there are few no's too...
IF u get it make sure u use it for a few weeks. ( I hope they have 1 month return policy if u dint like it. ) The size does need getting used to. But once that is done, its an amazing device

Theres another thread around here with alot of post. Check it out.
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Size is the biggest factor. You will look an idiot making calls in public there is no denying that, also it is more sluggish then s2. In my estimate bit like the original gs.
Buil is cheap and feels plasticky similar to s2.
You can get a bluetooth to avoid ever holding the phone against your ear in public or use the hands free kit.
Screen resolution is brilliant as surfing the net. Watching YouTube, videos, camera and video recording is brilliant. the best I have seen in this regards.
Has sd card slot another pro.
I would also suggest wait for upcoming HTC devices which will inmho more suitable and practical.

If you plan to use it as a media player I would consider holding off for now. Also not a lot of people can stand the grainy display a pentile has over an RGB stripe.. Better check the actual unit out before deciding.

iakovl said:
I can upgrade myself to galaxy note by adding about 50 $...
Should I do it? Is it worth it?
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I upgraded from the Galaxy S2 too. Both are great phones but the Note wins because of it's size. Worth upgrading definitely.
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EarlZ said:
If you plan to use it as a media player I would consider holding off for now. Also not a lot of people can stand the grainy display a pentile has over an RGB stripe.. Better check the actual unit out before deciding.
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You havent given up the note section yet buddy? Time to move on
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I just got my white Galaxy Note today and from the second that I opened the box, I was in love.
This thing is beautiful; its light, the screen is incredible, the stylus is practical and it's very fast.
I was really worried about upgrading from the SGS2, thinking that it would be a "SGS2 XL" but the overall experience is something completely new.
Only my opinion, obviously but I highly doubt you'll be disappointed
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It's definitely worth it. You get used to it easily. It has all the features you need and battery lasts way more than Galaxy S2 with a proper kernel.

I've got them both and I could say that Sgs2 is smoother definitely but Galaxy Note form factor is amazing and the screen, apart from the black clipping and the banding that I hope Supercurio will solve with his app, is tremendous brilliant and clear for an easy reading.
The S-Pen is nice also but a little bit inaccurate when you write oin the screen.
If Ics will improove the snappiness and solve the screen issues it will be a monster for sure but for the moment I keep also Sgs2 with me everytime because it is a more supported phone by the community and also because, with the right modding, its battery is endless.
Hope it will help in your choice

I love my Note. It's big, at first, but now I find the S2, which my girlfriend has, too cramped and feel the Note as a normal size. Sure, it's less snappy than the S2, but that's no problem for me, cause it's still fast. And with ICS coming, it's bound to be even faster. I don't say either one is better, the Note has more to offer for me with the bigger real estate and stylus.
You'll have to make your own choice, but if I had to choose again, I would definately go for the Note again! You can wait for (even) better phones to come out, but whatever you do, better phones will come out whatever you choose. Enjoy the moment.

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I just got my white Galaxy Note today and from the second that I opened the box, I was in love.
This thing is beautiful; its light, the screen is incredible, the stylus is practical and it's very fast.
I was really worried about upgrading from the SGS2, thinking that it would be a "SGS2 XL" but the overall experience is something completely new.
Only my opinion, obviously but I highly doubt you'll be disappointed
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As what others have mentioned it depends on your usage, I was a short time Galaxy S2 user but I ended up returning it due to defects. I also had a chance to get to use the Galaxy Note for 7 days and noticed that it was not playing my media properly which is not acceptable for a device that is marked for 'HD', I believe that topic is extensively discussed here. But I really did like the device as I didnt need to bring my tablet along with me, size is absolutely perfect even for my small-ish hands, if ICS fixes the issue I'll probably get one back and ditch my tablet.

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I am coming from an SGS2; I'd say definitely yes -- the screen + hardware is sweet. Can't go back...

I had HUGE reservations in getting Note due to it's size but I eventually took the plunge because of my smartphone addiction.
Out of all the high end handsets I have had this year (Sensation XL, Titan, Nexus Galaxy, SG2, Note, Iphone 4S), I must admit Note is my favourite.
It does have it's issues but so does every other handset out there.
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There is an artical on the portal at the moment, but i would say its down to size realy no matter the spec.
If you are very physical or have tight jeans among other factors i would stick with the S2

I think the note has quite sharper images than the s2 which i used to dread for..
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Sell or not to sell my gnote?

One friend of mine saw my gnote and want to buy it.
The question is how much to sell it and worth to sell it and buy the galaxy s3 or wait for note 2?
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giorgosfl said:
One friend of mine saw my gnote and want to buy it.
The question is how much to sell it and worth to sell it and buy the galaxy s3 or wait for note 2?
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Personal preference really..
I could not go back to a smaller screen now I don't think so rules the S3 out..
Screen is much MUCH smaller when you use s3, especially bc it is 16:9.
If you do not have black clipping issue on your Note, I advise you to stick to it forever
Save this image and open it in galery. If you see numbers below 11, you have a black clipping issue. It is TOLERABLE if you see 8. Below 8: sell it
you are in the Galaxy Note section so people will tell you to keep the Note. on the other hand i have used the Note for a while and just recently switched to the S3. i say give the S3 a shot as it will last around 2 years or so and you won't have to change phones. the screen isn't THAT small. its still a pretty big handset compared to the general population of smartphones out there. personally i like it and if i need to watch something on a bigger screen i'd use my Galaxy Tab 7.7 or LED TV for that. but for a "phone" the S3 is pretty good, i love the camera it responds faster than the Note or any older model (even if you can use Fast Burst Camera, the quality of the S3 is far better due to the quadcore making it faster to process images in a jiffy). but if you're on a budget, the Note will serve you well for quite some time. screen wise it is still a SAMOLED display and it is still big.
i on the other hand, will be waiting for the Note 2 and will stick with my S3 at the same time (i have 2 carriers in use so its a win-win)
goodluck in deciding my friend. oh and if you decide to sell, sell it now because time will depreciate ALL values of phones. no phone will ever stick with its price tag. remember that :laugh:
When you compare S3 screen with a 4.3 16:10 it is practically the same. I sold my Note and wanted to buy HoX or SIII but the screen is much smaller then Note and I will probably buy note again if I find one without a black clipping issue. I had htc HD2 before Note and I can say that the transition to s3 is minimal (comparing the screen sizes). Moreover, the screen on hd2 looks, and probably is, wider. Who likes big screens and had a Note will never buy any phone below it. I also have to add that Note is more towards a tablet than phone. But it is a pleasure to use. And I do not get the thing you said "if you are on a budget, the Note...". It is ~60 euros cheaper than S3, what the hell are you talking about? If that's "on a budget", than you must be a rich rich man
shatroghistro said:
Screen is much MUCH smaller when you use s3, especially bc it is 16:9.
If you do not have black clipping issue on your Note, I advise you to stick to it forever
Save this image and open it in galery. If you see numbers below 11, you have a black clipping issue. It is TOLERABLE if you see 8. Below 8: sell it
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What image??
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If that's "on a budget", than you must be a rich rich man
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hahaha, sorry about that probably
the Note is nice, it served me well for quite some time. but my G-Tab 7.7 kinda rendered it useless. i'm not that much of an S-Pen user so maybe that's why i gave up on the Note easily.
for people who want to use their phone as something all in one, and want the big screen without caring about the quadcore and fast camera, yes to the Note. i mean i haven't even reached a point where i have to use all 4 cores of my S3, so dual core is still good. but c'mon, Note 2 will be exquisite, i'm expecting it to make my S3 obsolete so i won't have too many smartphones in hand.
EDIT: i know why i said that part, the Note is a whole lot cheaper in my country compared to the S3. the S3 here is around $680 while the Note is around $470. (had to calculate everything and convert hehehe)
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What image??
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maybe he's referring to this image
also i am wondering about the development section on s3 because with the note section i am very happy with it.
I agreed with people say when you are using a big screen, you won't go back to small screen.
Note 2 have 5.5" screen and quad-core CPU. Hardware prices going down very quickly, personally, I would recommend your friend to wait for Note 2, and you stick onto SGN until it is worn out, probably there will be Note 3 by that time. ^.^

Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-
For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.
The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.
I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.
manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?
powerwagon said:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.
Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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Received Nexus.......Selling this week. Nexus VS TAB 2 7 3G

I have been going around and around with these devices. I got the TAB 2 7 P3100 3G from the wife for Christmas after researching both. I could not make up my mind and Christmas was coming quickly so I asked her for the more expensive P3100 (LOL) and I already have a samsung device in the Note 2.
But was still very interested in the Nexus since I have been reading nothing but great things about it. Now this may not be a fair comparison because the TAB is a 3G device that is invisible to my carrier ATT. However I will put that aside and share my impressions after playing with the Nexus solely for the last day and a half.
When I initially put the TAB 2 next to my Note, my jaw dropped at the "washed out" colors on the TAB compared to the Note 2. This lit the Nexus fire and I had to get one now especially since I read and heard nothing but great things about the Nexus screen, When I saw a One day only sale at the Adorama Store on Ebay on New Years day for $229 shipped I jumped at it and ordered an accessories package on Ebay (which has yet to arrive). I immediately put the TAB on Ebay for a high "Buy It Now only price (in the "unlikely" event i would not like the Nexus 7) I am glad now no one bought it after playing with the Nexus over the past couple days.
Initially I loved the all black look of the Nexus with the screen off vs the framed TAB. (small meaningless detail) I also appreciated the slightly narrower form factor and feel of the back cover. The glass was perfect. No build issues here. Looked great although I am not the type who "wears" my phones and devices. I use them.
I immediately unlocked it, flashed a custom recovery and flashed ParanoidAndroid on it. Very nice. I played with it for a day or so. This afternoon I finally I put the TAB side by side with the Nexus and found the Nexus was faster but not all that much. Not enough to say "wow" Certainly not as much as I thought it would be.
What stopped me in my tracks and gave me major pause was when I put the same picture up on the Nexus I initially compared with my Note 2 and had all three side by side. The Note was still much better. No suprise there. But this time the TAB and Nexus were very much the same. The Nexus was not as I had expected. The colors were not nearly as saturated as the Note and in fact almost identical to the TAB on all screen brightness settings In fact I could not tell them apart from a color saturation standpoint. I could however appreciate the denser pixel count on the Nexus when zooming in especially. But Needless to say i expected a much much better screen color quality and much much closer to the Note 2 in color quality. The Note 2 screen is amazing I guess.
USB OTG worked great on both but I don't need it on the TAB with 70GB of usable storage. vs <30GB. I initially had issue with the 64GB card in the TAB which pushed me into the nexus as well early on. But that has been solved. That along with the 3G and phone abilities of the TAB leading me to decide the TAB was the better of the two to keep for my needs.
Initially I thought the choices of ROMs the Nexus development community offered would be a plus but I usually find one ROM and stick with it. I can always get the CM 10 and AKOP ROMS for the TAB along with the TW ROMs.
The front camera on the Nexus is not as good as the rear camera on the TAB although the difference was about as much as the front cameras between the TAB and Nexus. All of them are nothing special. (although I am old enough to remember when 3MB camera was a great addition to a phone!!)
The thing I did like about the Nexus is the USB port but I have loaded up with Samsung "proprietary" USB Cables
and OTG accessories.
All that said the TAN IS A 3g devices and a phone. IF The TAB were the US non 3G model the decision would be much harder. But I would likely lean in its direction because I am used to Samsungs recovery and download modes (although Fastboot took all of 30 seconds to figure out) I expected a whole lot more from the color density and the screen on the Nexus, At the end of the day the additional storage along with the camera possibilities won me over. I am not a gamer so the quad core would likely not be a factor although I did run Need for Speed on the TAb to test it initially and it ran fine.
This is not a knock on the Nexus. It is a great device and for the money the best on paper. but for me anyway the difference were not enough to give up the advantages of the extra storage and free phone and 3G capability, which I could have done anyway using the Note as a hot spot with the Nexus,
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Quoted cause its the truth.
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Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Just be lucky you weren't like me.
Bought the Acer iconia a110, was cheap and had similar specs to n7 with hdmi out and sdcard slot.
Played with it for a bit....turned out it wasn't for me. Screen looked terrible, it weighed quite abit more than my 7, brought it back (was an 8gb model) to find the nexus 7 calling my name. I bought the 32gb model with no regrets, great device for the price in my opinion.
Edit : I always see people are complaining about the n7 not having a back camera, seriously a tablet is no device meant for mad photography. Get a nikkon or some **** lol. Front camera is 'OK' Good enough for my Skype calls with my lady :thumbup:
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I wouldn't have minded a back camera on the N7 for Skype. My wife travels a lot and when we Skype I use my phone so I can flip back and forth on the cameras so she can see our baby playing and generally being cute. I could also imagine in the business world it would be useful to show clients whatever in a video conference call. Even if it was a cheap 2.0 megapixel camera, that would have been fine.
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I think the N7 is a great tablet, one of the best and considered the best by some users. You can run almost any app/game without any lag and if you overclock the cpu, it will be even more powerful. First, I wanted to buy a more expensive device, but I looked over N7's performance and price and this was my final choice. I don't regret it!
Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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QUOTE=AFAinHD;36401781]Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
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I completely agree and I mentioned that but on the face of it the Galaxy Tab 7 without 3g would still be a better choice for me for the reasons I indicated. But I only spent $350 dollars for the Tab 3G. Nowhere near $500. I read a lot of reviews and read this area of X DA, for a long time and decided I needed to have them both in front of me to make a decision. Which took about 2 days.
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The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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Oh I thought about that Note, 3G 10.1 but I don't want to carry around a tablet that big I bought one of those for my wife for Christmas as a musician she can use it for the playback tracks or sheet music and replace little Acer she's currently using or at least have a good Backup. I would love to see the Note come in a 6 inch phone version. I wouldn't need both the tablet and phone. In the meantime there's no way I would get rid of the Note 2.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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that's not what i'm saying. We own a flagship device. Not only do we get the updates instantly, google releases the updates on their website with source so developers can make roms with ease. Its a lot easier to make a ROM for the latest update when google has given you the newest update source code already optimized for your device on a silver platter.
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It sounds like you've already thought of all the different angles, and your mind's made up. Like I said fortunately it's not the CDMA version, my friend bought one and there really isn't any Dev love for that thing. Enjoy your tab 2!
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Wouldn't that make you an Asus fanboy
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Initial 24 hour review

I first want to say that over the years i've had the resource of XDA to let me get the most out of my phones and really appreciate everyone on the site. I'm a huge phone nerd and have owned the following to give some perspective.
HTC EVO 4g
HTC EVO 3D
Samsung Galaxy 2 (Epic 4g Touch)
Samsung Galaxy Nexus
HTC EVO 4g LTE
Samsung Galaxy S3
Apple Iphone 5
and so Ive been on both sides of the HTC v. Samsung war and even tried the iphone(2 weeks and couldnt stand it)each time I try a HTC I come rushing back to the galaxy series. Now that I have the S4 and decided not to even try the One. I decided to write a quick review after the inital 24 hour period.
Got the phone at BB simply due to the amount they were giving me for the S3($250), got the phone and right out of the gate did a factory reset, set the phone up and disabled/removed all the bloatware I could(granted not that much). The build quality is something that is not given its fair due because it still is plastic, but it is a solid high quality phone and rivals any phone ive held.
The screen is hands down the best ive seen including the LCD used in the HTC's and the Iphone. With all the new features and sensors the phone does almost anything you can think of like waking up when the sensors realize you are reaching for the phone! Also another cool thing is controlling my Direct TV or TV with my phone!
The sound quality is much improved over the S3 and I bring this up mainly in terms of bluetooth streaming, bringing back all the gestures the music player is VERY nice.
The 4.2.2 menus do take a little to get used to and this is coming from a touchwiz user for years, but make the experience much more streamlined once you get familiar.
Nothing I have thrown at the phone yet has even slowed it down, from syncing all of my accounts, playing music and browsing the phone all at the same time the phone just keeps chugging along. Which even makes the S3 look slow.
Now on to what has reall impressed me so far and thats the battery life, I charged the phone fully while powered off once i got the phone and trying to run the battery down to allow me to do another full charge has proved to be a chore. With HEAVY wifi, screen time and app use and standby overnight im still at 36% battery!!
All in all i know its only the first day of owning the phone, but i couldnt be any happier or impressed. The hard part is waiting for accesories to come out.
But for anyone on the fence or not sure I would say take the plunge you won't be disappointed, and you will have the best phone out!
Good stuff. Yes, I agree. Some of the gesture features are actually quite awesome....and I've never been a big fan of gestures. But the wake up by reaching towards the phone feature is awesome. I used it twice (unfortunately) last night when I woke up in the middle of the night and wanted to know what time it was.
And yes, the battery life is fantastic. On the first couple of charges, I averaged about 4 hours of screen on time and that's also accounting for me being in a weak 3g area and leaving my mobile data on (for testing purposes).
I also want to add(it won't let me edit my original post) is that i usually always HAVE TERRIBLE service at work and since ive had this phone can actually make and receive calls and texts. And while around town data has been MUCH improved, streaming pandora is no longer something I could only dream of but a reality(with the high quality audio enabled). Browsing the web has been much quicker.
If anyone has questions feel free to ask.
i dont have the phone yet...im still debating if its much of an upgrade frkm the s3....but i do wanna know if it has the feature where u can be on the phone and can browse the net at the same time (s3 has this feature)...tia...
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Thanks for the review. I have the note 2 so I'm debating to get the s4 or wait for note 3. Any dislikes on the s4?
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Thanks for the review. I have the note 2 so I'm debating to get the s4 or wait for note 3. Any dislikes on the s4?
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Nothing yet, though I'm coming from the E4GT so of course it seems a lot better.
It does not have this for 3g, but i have been able to do so while on wifi and have read it is capable while on LTE.
The s3 did do this while on 3g, this might be the only thing ive noticed that the s3 has the ability to do but not the s4.
No i have no dislikes so far for the s4, i think the 5in screen on the s4 is perfect. Ive messed around with the note2 and just not my cup of tea...but in regards to the s4 it has better specs than the note2 while still having a big screen.
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Thanks for the review. I have the note 2 so I'm debating to get the s4 or wait for note 3. Any dislikes on the s4?
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Ok.....I'll bite.
#1 --> Price is too high. Note 2 premiered at this price but is larger and has a digitizer (Phablet). Way overpriced in my opinion compared to other new devices (at least on Sprint).
Coming from the S3, I find the build for the S4 very cheap feeling. It has a bit of a "hollow" sound to it. Also do not like the body style compared to the S3. It is boxier, more like the iphone5 with the chrome ring around it, and doesn't feel as good in my hand. When putting it to my ear it digs in a bit and not comfortable. I would rather see the power button back on top and not stick out so much. Last thing for now is how the camera sticks out (unlike the S3) and the phone sits right down on it.
Once I get a good case for it a lot of these gripes will disappear for me. However, for the cost of the device I was hoping for more.
There are far more positives than negatives but you didn't ask for those.
Do I think it is a worthwhile upgrade from the S3? Only if you have an upgrade to burn or upgrade every time a new phone comes out. Otherwise, an S3 with the right custom rom and tweaks gives a pretty good experience.
My $0.02.
Op.. you said that BB gave you $250 for the S3? How does that work if you don't mind me asking. Do they offer some type of trade in deal or was your contact up? I still have a year to go but the HTC one and the S4 seem very interesting
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My only dislike is how slippery the battery cover is. Coming from the E4GT I got used to the textured battery cover. Its nothing a good case wouldn't fix
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http://www.bestbuytradein.com/bb/QuoteCalculator.cfm?category=mobile-phones
Find your phone on there and print the value off(just in case they try to hassel you) but take the phone in with the charger and anything you have like box or anything(just to ensure you get the highest value)
if you are not out of contract you might want to swap an old phone on your line so the One is not tied to the account. but my S3 was on my line and I didnt have an issue, but they put the value of the phone on a giftcard and then use that gift card towards the s4.
They buy back alot of stuff, i had a couple ps3 games and what not, but just find the value and go to a store.

To buy or not buy a One?

I've been researching this phone a whole lot because I plan on buying this next month sometime, but a few things are unclear:
What is this phone like? A lot of people suffer from dead pixels, poor build quality, etc.
It also seems HTC is in the verge of bankruptcy. They're not doing too well sales wise and top executives are leaving.
It kinda makes me a bit nervous.
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Theshawty said:
I've been researching this phone a whole lot because I plan on buying this next month sometime, but a few things are unclear:
What is this phone like? A lot of people suffer from dead pixels, poor build quality, etc.
It also seems HTC is in the verge of bankruptcy. They're not doing too well sales wise and top executives are leaving.
It kinda makes me a bit nervous.
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Heh, HTC has had hit in sales. Bad one at that but they are not even close to bankruptcy. Not even close. It will few years for that even if current things continue. They still have market cap of around 250 billion $. What is happening is not ideal. In fact it is bad, but it is not the end game yet.
Built quality issues were more widespread in early units. The smaller issues like small gaps between the top and bottom speaker grill and body still persist but those are really minor issues. The other issues have reduced in frequency (at least frequency of it being reported here at XDA ).
You can always return the phone if it is not up to your standards. It should not happen on flagship, but these days almost all flagships are hit by such issues as initially most are rushed products.
There are plenty of threads here about how the phone it. It is mixed bag for me, but it is a beautifully built phone. Has its quirks with unconventional button layout, unconventional Sense 5 etc. But that is personal choice in the end. If you can go play with the demo piece for a while at store near you before making purchase. But overall it is good phone. The only other phone that really competes with it is S4. I wont consider any other phone.
The One is a rather simple friend.
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I've been researching this phone a whole lot because I plan on buying this next month sometime, but a few things are unclear:
What is this phone like? A lot of people suffer from dead pixels, poor build quality, etc.
It also seems HTC is in the verge of bankruptcy. They're not doing too well sales wise and top executives are leaving.
It kinda makes me a bit nervous.
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Both the HTC One Developer Edition and the Samsung Galaxy S4 (GS4) are my first Android phones. I returned the GS4 because 9gb of application storage was not acceptable. I have, literally, installed every available custom ROM because I really do not like Sense 5. I enjoy Blinkfeed, but IMHO it should be a scrollable widget instead of the default homescreen. Yes the One's bootloader can be/is unlocked, but none of the available ROM are particularly functional or impressive. If you buy the One, you'll likely choose an improved stock ROM rather than a completely custom ROM in order to maximize the camera functionality. I really dislike the camera app. I also disliked the GS4 camera app. In fact, I haven't found an Android camera app as functional as the 3rd party camera app I had on my iPhone.
My build quality seems fine. I am not finicky. My device IS NOT gapless, but I really don't care. My screen don't seem to have any dead pixels. If it did, with a 480 pixel density, I could never see something so small.
All in all, the One is a solid phone. I definitely wouldn't buy it for market price again. I'm not too sure about HTC solvency, but the One seems to have a strong development community, so the phone will unlikely ever be irrelevant.
buy it.
you only hear from the vocal minority on here regarding quality control issues, and it seems that people here are looking for problems to complain about. every htc one owner i've physically spoken to has had nothing but great things to stay about it
Martin... Its a great phone. Sense 5 is a step closer to stock android (u so love) than TW.
It feels great in the hand, premium build quality (Google for earlier build flaws), it's fast, smooth and everything the S3 is not Imo..... And u know how I loved my s3
Not as much rom/kernel options as the S3/S4 but similar issues apply...
HTC, just like samsung, seem to hold back some sources, even after release. So... Devs have to reverse engineer.
But... Good thing is... Like the i9505, This has the qualcomm s600 and not the exynos so better options for the future.
I wouldn't read too much into the whole htc "staff shuffle" issue just yet. It may affect future devices, but not the One.
Fact is, all the best AOSP, CM, aokp devs have this phone and are working on it right now. CM runs good, Roman has an aokp rom, just in case u don't like Sense 5 . so I suppose we'll always have the stock edition on a way.
My honest opinion is... If ur looking for a good phone that looks good, feels good and sound good, and different to TW... but u can still flash decent/different stuff on for 12 months then buy it...
If you need to have this phone for longer then buy a nexus... Cause going on past history, Samsung will have a new phone next summer, and htc could drop this phone completely in 9 months in favour of their next flagship.
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Well,
IMHO this is a very good phone. I agree built quality issues are there because it is not priced as the S4 is, but I've had two HTC Ones and none of them were unacceptable. You see a lot of forums/posts about it because the odd one out is always visible. It is a very good phone.... Just the one Android ecosystem wanted. It is a lifestyle thing to upgrade, I guess.
The Camera is awesome no matter what people say.
Fastest capture I've ever seen. Best low light performance. Zero Lag while using the phone. and Looks. well lets talk about something else :victory:
buy a note 2 better all rounder :good:
IMHO don't do it.
Phone scratches alot, battery life is the best. And yea, HTC are gonna die out so it wont get a good resale value after.
Look at the Galaxy Note II or S4.
~ Taylor_Swift
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Oh hey I've got an idea, how about you make up your own mind?
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Taylor_Swift said:
IMHO don't do it.
Phone scratches alot, battery life is the best. And yea, HTC are gonna die out so it wont get a good resale value after.
Look at the Galaxy Note II or S4.
~ Taylor_Swift
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Taylor Swift?? Really?
Says enough for me
BS
I have my phone approx 2 months now and have no scratches. I have the silver one. The black edition is prob more prone to scratching as it is painted.
My battery life is pretty similar to my S3 to he honest.
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KennyLegend said:
BS
I have my phone approx 2 months now and have no scratches. I have the silver one. The black edition is prob more prone to scratching as it is painted.
My battery life is pretty similar to my S3 to he honest.
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No its not "BS". It scratched even IN the official hard case. I was glad my HTC went. Im turning into a Samsung lover now
I have pics too lol
~ Taylor_Swift
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Taylor_Swift said:
No its not "BS". It scratched even IN the official hard case. I was glad my HTC went. Im turning into a Samsung lover now
I have pics too lol
~ Taylor_Swift
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U didn't take due care. I have that case too and no probs here.
Stop misleading people fanboi... Or is it fan girl.. I'm not sure..
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KennyLegend said:
U didn't take due care. I have that case too and no probs here.
Stop misleading people fanboi
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Dude. Seriously. It was in a case since day one. Im not the only persons whos scratched. Im saying it scratched, I dont need someone here to tell me its not when it clearly has.
Erm me, fangirl... im not the one defending a phone here...
~ Taylor_Swift
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Dude. Seriously. It was in a case since day one. Im not the only persons whos scratched. Im saying it scratched, I dont need someone here to tell me its not when it clearly has.
Erm me, fangirl... im not the one defending a phone here...
~ Taylor_Swift
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As said... No such issues here. A little care when changing covers for me goes a long way... Ie making sure no dust, grit, dirt, is present b4 removing the official double dip hard case.
No scratches here so far.
And btw I'm a big samsung fan.. Just made a change for the better
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As said... No such issues here. A little care when changing covers for me goes a long way... Ie making sure no dust, grit, dirt, is present b4 removing the official double dip hard case.
No scratches here so far.
And btw I'm a big samsung fan.. Just made a change for the better
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...I do know how to change a phone case... ok great... im not really into manufacturer factions like defending a phone. I mean its just a phone...
~ Taylor_Swift
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As far as build issues go, I only have 1 dead pixel and a small gap but I don't really care as it doesn't effect the phone.
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Just got my black One a few weeks ago, I had a stuck pixel that fixed itself. Other than that it is flawless. You'll love it.
My wife got the gs4 so I get a comparison from time to time, I'm happy about my choice the camera is great, it never lags its nice knowing it can handle anything you throw at it. Battery life is miles ahead most phones atm even with the 1080p gorgeous screen.
Oh and that htc tv app is simply amazing, I don't even know where my tv remote is anymore not even joking.
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Yeh I'm choosing between GS4 and HTC One. I have an Incredible S right now so I'm looking for an upgrade. Sense 5 looks much closer to stock android than previous. I like the solid feel of HTC phones however GS4 also looks nice and has good specs. Is it really much better than the s3 though?
Tricky desision..any suggestions ?
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IMHO don't do it.
Phone scratches alot, battery life is the best. And yea, HTC are gonna die out so it wont get a good resale value after.
Look at the Galaxy Note II or S4.
~ Taylor_Swift
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I won't get another Crapdung device ever again. Plasticy crap with a lousy excuse of a UI. TouchShiz is sluggish crap and extremely ugly and annoying.
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My phone is not perfect if you examine it from up real, realy close, there are tiny gaps but if there hadn' t been a thread here in XDA I never would have noticed. The screen is gorgeous, it makes my HOXscreen look dull and yellow in comparison
It also seems HTC is in the verge of bankruptcy. They're not doing too well sales wise and top executives are leaving.
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HTC still never reported a loss but their profits have been going down but it takes more than a few bad quarter for a company to go down. And it' s normal especially for companies traded on a exchange to switch management if the management doesn' t meet its targets. HTC will be here in next year...

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