Idea... Need some help - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I upgraded my phones but my son still loves to play with my old G1. I was wondering if anyone knew how much of the base os I could remove.
For instance I just want it to play movies, music, connect to wifi, and play games. I don't want it to have ANY calling capability or have it bug me about no SIM card.
Found a list in Cyanogenmod's wiki as to what is safe to remove. I added a few more on to that list and will be adding a couple of apps to the initial install. Will update as I go. Link below.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
So I booted up my phone and uninstalled the phone.apk and some others...a few errors pop up every now and then... But I'm betting that someone who knows coding can fix the acore errors. I'm going to continue working on this. Wish me luck.
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Funny, I was coming here to look for the same thing. I'm administering some Linux boxes, and I was thinking how much easier if it would be if I just had a small handheld device with a physical keyboard that I could run ssh through, then I remembered my G1 in the drawer.
Someone (me, if I ever learn how to do it) should make a Rebirth/Recycle ROM for this phone that strips out the phone capability and just supports it as a streamlined pocket-sized utility and gaming device. Maybe some other linux would be better than Android for that.
- Terminal
- Web browser
- Game emulators (better with a physical keyboard)
- Media player
- Media Center Remote
Anyway, just throwing it out there for brainstorming.

I found this over at cyanogenmod. I'm gonna start here and modify to my needs. I'll post here when I get it setup
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hedjemunkee said:
I found this over at cyanogenmod. I'm gonna start here and modify to my needs. I'll post here when I get it setup
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You found a thread about how to do this at CM forums? I was just browsing around there and couldn't find it. Link?

Heh...helps if I add the link.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
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Remove Sim card, put in airplane mode, voila no Sim card errors.
You can turn on GPS and wifi while airplane mode is on.
And you could probably rip out the phone and text messing apps with titanium backup.
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SithDagger said:
Remove Sim card, put in airplane mode, voila no Sim card errors.
You can turn on GPS and wifi while airplane mode is on.
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I have tried this and my son still managed in his playing to take it out of airplane mode. So I want to just avoid the problem entirely. Plus I want to try and keep my G1 useable. It holds a certain sentimentality.
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From my experience if you remove the phone.apk acore starts to force close constantly and then it doesn't boot at all
But really, theres not too much to worry about.
99% of G1s can be restored by flashing DREAIMG.nbh from fastboot
And by the way you should try a custom ROM or two
Or with LauncherPro you can hide apps from the home drawer
But I think LauincherPro needs a newer version of Android
(Try froyobylaszlo, or frayo..which is froyobylaszlo but you can choose what system apps to install)

hedjemunkee said:
Heh...helps if I add the link.
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I actually found that after hunting around for a while...
Yep, I loaded ES Task Manager (or Killer, can't remember), and looked up running processes that were on that list in your link to see if I could strip them out and save some memory. Managed to take out the Messager service without any issues. Seems to be working pretty good.

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i cant download anything in the android market anymore and i dont know why

i recently noticed when i try to download any app from the android market or update an app it will act like its starting the download but then never actually start it. im running the latest cyanogen rom. i have tried wiping and reflashing the latest cyanogen rom and reflashing the google apps addon. i have tried restoring to a previous backup when the apps were working in the market. i have tried flashing a non cyanogen rom even. nothing i can think of (my thoughts are limited since im fairly new at all this) and still no success. i had the same problem on my g1 with cyanogen and i somehow managed to get that working again by trying similar things but no luck yet with my nexus one and its really upsetting me. any ideas on how i can go about fixing this? thanks for all your help
-andrew
May sound stupid (and yes, it is) but try launching google talk. Often bby logging in to talk, market downnloads kick off. Seems to be google account related.
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hi, am facing the same issue..... I've tried opening talk like the previous poster suggested but it doesn't work..... appreciate any help on this.... I'm running the latest cm, with grnstatus bar morph..
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try going into settings, applications, market, and uninstall updates, then open the market again
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OK I tried the uninstall updates idea and no luck there. Opening Google talk also didn't solve the problem. Any other ideas guys? Thanks
I wonder if you ever found a solution to this?
Well for me, I have to open GTalk and close it and reopen and close and reopen...it eventually works when it fully loads... Oddly, it seems to only happen on wifi. I'm pretty sure it's a GTalk issue.
Hopefully the new market system will make a difference...I really hope
How's the amount of space on your phone? Do you see the little hard drive icon? I know that the Market always starts to download stuff but never actually downloads anything when my phone space its low.
Hope this helps!
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[Q] Multitouch and Flash?

I was just browsing some files using Root Explorer to see what we might be able to do to get Multitouch working on the ZIO. In /system/etc/permissions directory I found a file called handheld_core_hardware.xml that when I open it up has information about permissions of the device hardware and then says this.
<!-- devices with multitouch must also include
android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.xml -->
<!-- devices with full multitouch must also include
android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.distinct.xml -->
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I've also found the applications currently installed on the phone in the /system/app directory that has every app on the phone, Maybe we can inject some files from another phone that have Multitouch and Flash working?
I know I'm not the only one that is currently scanning this phone for things that we can "exploit" to make it better. If anyone else can think of what we can do to get Multitouch and Flash to work go ahead and give us your input and we'll get this going.
don think flash will work nativaly becase it requires a arm7 proc and I think the Zio is an ARm6 based proc..... you can get flash running through skyfire browser from what I understand though...
as far as multitouch??? dunno you may be onto something!
I am determined to make this phone work better than CricKet is willing to make it work. I know it's not a high end device but cmon my old pentium 3 gateway that had a 600mhz processor could run flash. There has to be a way that we can spoof the processor to install flash if it only allows the arm7 or higher.
I dont know if you have Root Explorer but I would reccomend it for browsing the files on the phone. I would say it is worth the 4.03 USD or 2.50 EUR. That and Uninstaller for Root to remove the bloatware.
Multitouch could be a hardware issue as well. I know the zio has a substandard capacitive touchscreen -- maybe it doesnt support multitouch.
BUT, I could be completely wrong as I am making a hypothetical assumption.
I downloaded flash here: http://www.4shared.com/file/k6SycB0R/Adobe_Flash_Player_101_1016168.htm
I then dropped it into my SD card and installed it just fine on the new cricket 2.2.1 update. It seems to be working just fine, though it does sometimes kick me out of browser pages, so I just switch to Opera Mobile 10.1 and it works on that one much better.
Sweet, trying to get this working now.
ryfly65 said:
I downloaded flash here: http://www.4shared.com/file/k6SycB0R/Adobe_Flash_Player_101_1016168.htm
I then dropped it into my SD card and installed it just fine on the new cricket 2.2.1 update. It seems to be working just fine, though it does sometimes kick me out of browser pages, so I just switch to Opera Mobile 10.1 and it works on that one much better.
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Got it to install just fine on mine too, but it causes my stock browser to FC all the time, even when just trying to type in a web address. I will have to try this with another browser.
Kyocera originally stated when the phone launched that it supported multi touch. This phone is going to have to suppport multi touch in some way or another. Maybe we could contact Kyocera to find out exactly what hardware is in this phone?
wwwilly1986 said:
Got it to install just fine on mine too, but it causes my stock browser to FC all the time, even when just trying to type in a web address. I will have to try this with another browser.
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Try using Dolphin Browser. I use HD because it goes full screen.
wwwilly1986 said:
Got it to install just fine on mine too, but it causes my stock browser to FC all the time, even when just trying to type in a web address. I will have to try this with another browser.
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Tried with dolphin mini -- nogo (FC)
Dolphin browser -- nogo (FC)
Dolphin HD -- nogo (FC)
hmm thats odd. I'll have to try this once I get my phone working again. I was messing with some cpu files then restarted my phone. well now I'm in a loop after the Kyocera logo. The cricket logo comes up and restarts from the cricket logo again. I'm currently working on getting it working again with adb and fastboot. I may end up using fastboot to flash the boot image and then run the update, it will then take me into the recovery just like it did the other day.
Mattix724 said:
I am determined to make this phone work better than CricKet is willing to make it work. I know it's not a high end device but cmon my old pentium 3 gateway that had a 600mhz processor could run flash. There has to be a way that we can spoof the processor to install flash if it only allows the arm7 or higher.
I dont know if you have Root Explorer but I would reccomend it for browsing the files on the phone. I would say it is worth the 4.03 USD or 2.50 EUR. That and Uninstaller for Root to remove the bloatware.
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Is there an alternative to root explorer that's free?
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Check the market under productivity you should find the free equivalent.
I was able to install flash but... FC on all browsers except opera mini. I had to uninstall just to use the free xda apparently because it kept restarting. Flash isn't too huge of a deal for me, I think it might be why flash isn't included in the update
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Anyone have any problems with Appbrain.
I noticed with appbrain it doesn't reconize that I have the 2.2 installed on my phone. Anyone else having the same problem? I also posted a few questions on here about a few things I noticed my phone doing but never got a response back. Guess they weren't important questions or something.
Also was wondering about SELECT DEVICE ADMINISTRATORS in the settings/location & security. What is it and why is it empty if i'm the admin of my own phone???
Something else I feel really sucks that they did with this phone.
Why the hell did Kyocera have this phone where when you set a wallpaper you always have to crop the dam thing and cut half your pic off just to set it??
I think its bull**** concidering the resolution of the phone there would be no need to limit the size of the wallpaper you set. I feel it sucks ass totally cause no matter what size I make my wallpapers I always have to cut half the pic off to set it as a wallpaper on the phone.
That little resize box sucks!! Now it may be an app I have installed on the phone but i'm having the same BS problem when typing txt messages with the keyboard missing letters and the latter just the same as if i still had the 1.6 crap on it.
I'm starting to hate this stinking phone to a point i'm about to take my hammer to it.
Mattix724 said:
Check the market under productivity you should find the free equivalent.
I was able to install flash but... FC on all browsers except opera mini. I had to uninstall just to use the free xda apparently because it kept restarting. Flash isn't too huge of a deal for me, I think it might be why flash isn't included in the update
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I had the same problem. Anything I opened once I installed the flash just FC on me till i uninstalled it. I just installed Opera brower and i'm re-installing the Flash now, i'll reply back with what I get after its all done.
Well I installed Opera browser, Re-installed Flash player and Rebooted my phone. Once running I when to adobe.com to test the flash and in the content window it states: To view this experience, you need JavaScript enabled and the latest adobe flash player installed
I have opera and it works with flash installed. I haven't really seen flash working since installation. Tried using opera to go to YouTube but it opened the app rather than embedding in the browser.
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I give up. about to for the 5th time now completely reset my phone, format my SD card, and redue the entire phone from scratch.
With flashed installed I can't even goto appbrain app market without the never ending FC happening just as Appbrain begins to load. This sucks! I really don't want to spend half the day again reinstalling all my crap back to this phone. Its been a headache sence day 1 I had it till now. Seemed to run just fine leaving the thing alone aside trying to figure out what bloatware crap other then the 2 lousy games that comes with the phone.
By the way. The bloatware is mobile web, mybackup, uno, my account, storefront, midnight bowling, ziotop10apps, and you can remove home screen tips
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Mattix724 said:
Kyocera originally stated when the phone launched that it supported multi touch. This phone is going to have to suppport multi touch in some way or another. Maybe we could contact Kyocera to find out exactly what hardware is in this phone?
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I really don't remember Kyocera saying it was multitouch. I do remember some reviews of the phone saying that it was, but those are not associated with Kyocera, those are just some guys online giving their two cents on their blogs and websites.
On the actual Kyocera Zio website,for the Spring version with Froyo on it it states:
Display Specs: 3.5" 262K-color TFT LCD WVGA (480x800 pixels), capacitive touch screen navigation
Input: SWYPE - Fast and easy text input
Navigation: Track Ball navigation
Physical
It does not mention multitouch

[Q] Unable to uninstall new attentive phone app

I have a tmous hd7 running 7712. HTC recently put out an attentive phone app that integrates into the settings menu of the hd7. Once the app finishes downloading, it disappears from the app list and a new settings category called attentive phone is created. Is there any way to remove the integrated app once installed? Long pressing the setting does not work.
Why u want to do that?
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Personally, I don't use any of the settings in it. The menu gets in the way, takes a bit longer to load than other settings, and feels tacked on. Besides, given that putting your app in the settings menu merely requires modifying the hubtype in WMAppManifest.xml, developers or carriers could concievably write crapware apps that are unable to be uninstalled. We should at least have the freedom to uninstall the application
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Personally, I don't use any of the settings in it. The menu gets in the way, takes a bit longer to load than other settings, and feels tacked on. Besides, given that putting your app in the settings menu merely requires modifying the hubtype in WMAppManifest.xml, developers or carriers could concievably write crapware apps that are unable to be uninstalled. We should at least have the freedom to uninstall the application
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If you don't use it then why did you install it to begin with? lol. Also, its completely out of way, being in the settings menu. By far a better implementation that having it clog up the app list.
There is no official way to remove it. It needs to installed again, but without the modified hubtype, so that it'll appear in the regular app list by which it can then be uninstalled normally.
forget me, im an idiot
How does it slow down ur system? I don't get it, works fine for me.... This is reserved API, you cant use it to put apps in the menus, its only for oem. Get over it or do hard reset.
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I need to uninstall it because I've installed it twice
There are 2 HTC Attentive Phone in my Setting now
I have the same problem. It shows up twice in settings. It happened for me when an update for attentive phone came through marketplace. I updated and next think know, I have two links in settings.
This is the old one which published by HTC
http ://redirect.zune.net/External/LaunchZuneProtocol.aspx?pathuri=navigate?phoneAppID=f85dbf10-3f04-4b2b-bb13-008c4f36ce80
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This is the old one which published by HTC
http ://redirect.zune.net/External/LaunchZuneProtocol.aspx?pathuri=navigate?phoneAppID=f85dbf10-3f04-4b2b-bb13-008c4f36ce80
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YOU ROCK! This is what I´ve been searching for!
to everyone: here you go, deploy this with Xapdeployx with force uninstall option, and you can delete it.
Cheers guys, just bumping this so that others with the same issue can find it quickly

[APP] Reinstaller - Easily reinstall apps when switching phones ect

Thanks to the developer who created this. Its kind of like AppBrain was on Android.
Log in, it pulls info from WindowsPhone.com for your app history and gives you an easy way to reinstall the ones you want. Unfortunately it doesn't automatically install them as its a limitation of api's I believe, but its a lot easier than sending them each to your phone, or going through one at a time in the market.
This will be useful until full/real backups of the phone are done into skydrive (if the rumors are true for Apollo).
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/b9d1115b-2c0d-4e5d-afc6-fa6dcd84dda4
http://wmpoweruser.com/reinstaller-by-wpfied-easily-reinstall-apps-on-your-windows-phone/
I just installed it. I look forward to using this application when the time comes. Just to clarify - when I get a new phone or have to restore this information on the phone I reset - I first have to install this application? Or can I do this through my windows live and zune connection?
addicus said:
I just installed it. I look forward to using this application when the time comes. Just to clarify - when I get a new phone or have to restore this information on the phone I reset - I first have to install this application? Or can I do this through my windows live and zune connection?
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Well, to use the application to re install your other apps you'll need to install it somehow; be it from zune, the web, or on the phone.
Once its installed it just scans your history list from windowsphone.com once you give it access, and you can select which ones (or all) that you want to install. It jumps you into each one in the market for installation, but its much quicker than going through them one at a time on the web, or searching manually through the market.
The app is pretty useful. Of course, it would have been much more useful if certain limits have not been there, but we should blame Microsoft for that. Written about it on my site here
I'm excited for a 'check list' approach to installing apps. I have TONS and I constantly miss some of my paid apps when I'm reinstalling.
Thank you!!!
Good stuff. Just installed this app and setting it up as I type this
I'm liking the WP more than Android's ICS so far; more simple and clean overall in my opinion. Only thing missing from my Lumia 710 is hot spot capability.
Sweet app, exactly what I'm looking for
If you take a look at other apps on iOS which helps to install apps when they go free, they come with a Inbuilt system which lets users add the apps which are installed using it. That way users can track what they have or not.
I will suggest you to create something like this or let users mark which are already installed so you can make a better filter.
Need Help!
I installed this app on my previous rom on HD2 and ive re-flashed to this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356833 and re-intalled your app and now it cannot find any apps on my account? It found over 600 apps on previous rom! I'll try un-installing and re-installing it to see if that helps. Can anyone give me some help. Thanks in advance.
Nevermind I'm just too impatient All I had to to is restart my phone
Nice and good app. A great feature is that it allows you to select which ones you need and which ones you don't. That's good because after a reset, you always want to start with a fresh small set
Anyone have any suggestions if it keeps getting hung up at 217 apps?
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Anyone have any suggestions if it keeps getting hung up at 217 apps?
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Not sure. I kept getting hung up at 80 on new lumia. Some error going on not sure if the app or marketplace on site.
*edit* works fine now (april 9, 2012). Not sure what the issue was before.
jhoff80 said:
Anyone have any suggestions if it keeps getting hung up at 217 apps?
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I don't get this problem on my htc gold, custom rom Dynamics7 1.01b (Tango)
Been using this app on mu Lumia since it was released. Just reconnected and scan for apps. Full count of 354 and no issues.
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Using Phone as Music player

Hi.
Ive been using my S3 for a few years now and found my old S1 the other day still working.
As there is still alot of support for this phone i upgraded the ROM to KK and all looks good, but i dont really need the phone for general phone stuff so was looking to use it mainly as a Music player.
Im running OMNI on it with Apollo, DSP Manager (but still stock OMNI Kernal, which i might update if a better one is available for Sound?)
What i would like to know is what can i delete off the phone but still have it function without any FC? i.e it will never be used for text or phone calls or navigation, only music and maybe games (but still would like Play store access for app download, via WiFi.
Has anyone ever done this before?
Thanks
From what I know deleting any of the telephony features causes a whole lot of problems for a rom. You could try disable every app you don't need and see how it goes?
Alternatively you could always leave it on aeroplane mode (you can still access wifi)
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Soryuu said:
From what I know deleting any of the telephony features causes a whole lot of problems for a rom. You could try disable every app you don't need and see how it goes?
Alternatively you could always leave it on aeroplane mode (you can still access wifi)
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Yeah i think the best option is Airplane Mode to be honest. I did delete some of the Messaging files and so far no FC, but think i will leave the rest for now.
Thanks

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