Canocial Making Ubuntu Based Webtop Competitor - Motorola Droid 3

For those of you who are mad the Droid 3 doesn't have Webtop, Canonical is making a competitor and I imagine the Droid 3 will be able to run it. It meets the specs, not sure about USB host but everything else. I imagine you could use bluetooth for keyboard/mouse as well. I wonder if it will be possible to get something like this working on the Droid 3.
-Dual-core 1GHz CPU
-Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGL
-Storage: 2GB for OS disk image
-HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
-USB host mode
-512 MB RAM
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This isn't just running Ubuntu on your phone's hardware, its access to your Android apps through the regular Ubuntu UI. Looks exciting, read more:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android

Okay that sounds insanely cool!

MrObvious said:
Okay that sounds insanely cool!
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thanks for stating the MrObvious
Obviously its HYPER COOL !!

Cant wait. Hope it works out!!! I was thinking of getting an Atrix because i love webtop
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HYPER COOL indeed
This was cool as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415166
Worked perfectly for me ik not the same thing but if your bored and like ubuntu id recommend trying it.

There is a video out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXUjjg9qQ0
First thing I noticed is the demo is running on a blur'd Atrix 2 which means no custom kernel or ROM is needed.
At this point it looks like there is a pretty good chance the Droid 3, Bionic, Razr, etc will be able to run this.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
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It's gonna be sweeeeeeeet.
Ditto on the shut up and take my money.

Silber said Ubuntu for Android would be released under an open source license, but that Canonical expects it to mostly be pre-installed on specific hardware.
"We'll want to optimise for certain hardware profiles and chips," she said. "It simply wouldn't be the same experience on a downloaded install."
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Source: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/373024/canonical-puts-ubuntu-on-android-smartphones
So it will be open source and not OEM only. I was thinking it would be open source since its Ubuntu but you can never be sure.
As far as optimizing it for hardware, hopefully the fact that the phone they demoed it on has the same exact OMAP/PowerVR SoC that is on the Droid 3 means the source will be most optimized for that hardware. In the demo it looked like a nearly finished project.

spunker88 said:
There is a video out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXUjjg9qQ0
First thing I noticed is the demo is running on a blur'd Atrix 2 which means no custom kernel or ROM is needed.
At this point it looks like there is a pretty good chance the Droid 3, Bionic, Razr, etc will be able to run this.
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Video is down, You guys think it could mean something?

SeiferTV said:
Video is down, You guys think it could mean something?
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It was a private video (only those with link can view). It had several phone #s not blurred out in the video so chances are it was meant to be shared internally only.

I found a new link to the video:
http://youtu.be/3pZUCKt0RKc
Edit: On a second thought, if it contains not blurred information, should I edit out the link?

Say this does come to pass and it's possible to load it up on the D3. Which dock can you use? The only ones I can find don't allow a USB connection.

spivey76 said:
Say this does come to pass and it's possible to load it up on the D3. Which dock can you use? The only ones I can find don't allow a USB connection.
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I'm hoping it would be possible to get it working with just HDMI output and no dock. I don't know if the Droid 3 supports USB OTG host mode, but it does allow bluetooth keyboards and mice simultaneously so hopefully that would be an option.
The Droid 3 works with the lapdock/webtop hardware wise according to this youtube video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OclL-KISYWI

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They also said it would come preinstalled on some phones, because it needs some optimization to run smoothly. Read that on The Verge
Still, pretty cool thing! Hope someone port that to the D3 (and consequently the M3 too =P)
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
Hash's ICS Alpha 7 + Camera Fix

spunker88 said:
I'm hoping it would be possible to get it working with just HDMI output and no dock. I don't know if the Droid 3 supports USB OTG host mode, but it does allow bluetooth keyboards and mice simultaneously so hopefully that would be an option.
The Droid 3 works with the lapdock/webtop hardware wise according to this youtube video below.
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That looks promising, although in the comments someone stated he might have modded it. The OP didn't reply so who knows.
I hadn't even considered bluetooth peripherals, but they work just as well.

AragornPE said:
They also said it would come preinstalled on some phones, because it needs some optimization to run smoothly. Read that on The Verge
Still, pretty cool thing! Hope someone port that to the D3 (and consequently the M3 too =P)
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
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I'm hoping that they release the source which has already been optimized for the demo phone, the Atrix 2 since it has the same OMAP4430 that the Droid 3 and a lot of other devices have.

New video, sounds like it won't be a easy task to custom install it ( for people with handsets that don't have it stock-installed ) : ( ( although, "In Devs We Trust" )

SeiferTV said:
New video, sounds like it won't be a easy task to custom install it ( for people with handsets that don't have it stock-installed ) : ( ( although, "In Devs We Trust" )
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He made it sound somewhat like Android source is, it will be available but the average user can't just install it on a device and expect it to work. Hopefully the devs here can make it work. The biggest limitation for us is going to be only 512MB of RAM, besides for that the demo phone has the same hardware as the Droid 3. It may not be a multitasking device, but I imagine things could be done on the Linux side to cut memory usage, possibly even switching to a lighter Ubuntu forked distro. It would still be useful as is for simple web browsing, a real office suite (LibreOffice), a real media player (VLC), etc.

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PSFreedom or PSGroove For Vogue

Basically this allows you to run homebrew on PS3. It has been released for other Android devices and even a release is coming for a TI calculator. I was seeing if any of the great devs here could get this to work on the HTC vogue? Here is some more info http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/tag/psfreedom/
Also, this is how it works on Nexus One if it might help someone port it
http://dukio.com/tutorials/psgroove-htc-google-nexus.html
I too would love for someone to look into this. I'll help any way I can!
i would also love this
please someone atleast look into it
Moral support +1
Sadly with the last firmware update from sony (3.42 mandotory) it "fixed" the PS3 hacks
crackeyes said:
Sadly with the last firmware update from sony (3.42 mandotory) it "fixed" the PS3 hacks
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Just don't update lol
Besides, now that the system is actually broken into, I'm sure new methods and work-arounds will be found.
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Just don't update lol
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this guy has the right idea, i mean modern warfare 2's single player is totally worth ignoring the multiplayer for.
and resident evil 5's AI is way better than playing with a friend
sarcasm generously implied.
So any thoughts if this can be done? I haven't seen any of the devs say anything, but of course they might not have ps3 units.
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th3lolz said:
i don't have a PS3, but what happens if you do the usb mod and then update the firmware?
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the new firmware fixes the exploit used to make the mod work, so the answer is when you update the firmware it will undo the mod
I'm surprised no1 has ported this to the vogue yet, the HD2 got it already, maybe that file works with the Vogue??
I have a sprint vogue lying around but the screen is broken so I can't see anything
sp1kez said:
I'm surprised no1 has ported this to the vogue yet, the HD2 got it already, maybe that file works with the Vogue??
I have a sprint vogue lying around but the screen is broken so I can't see anything
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if its anything like the playstation emulator as far as for performance, we just dont have the specs to run it even with the GPU, and CPU overclocked. That playstation emulator still was unplayable i expect the same result
thoughtlesskyle said:
if its anything like the playstation emulator as far as for performance, we just dont have the specs to run it even with the GPU, and CPU overclocked. That playstation emulator still was unplayable i expect the same result
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This is not an emulator, it's just an edited android boot that sets the device as a usb hub
Can someone put the files from the hd2 on their vogue and follow the directions listed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777120#
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This is not an emulator, it's just an edited android boot that sets the device as a usb hub
Can someone put the files from the hd2 on their vogue and follow the directions listed
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Just tried it and it didn't work... not surprising considering its for a totally different piece of hardware
Now that HD2 code is out, couldn't someone port it to Vogue? seems like it wouldn't be that hard
PSFreedom has also been ported to the Droid Compiled against 2.6.32 kernel
i dont know how easy it would be but im assuming with more and more droid devices being ported to someone will make a vogue port hopefully
you do not need 3.42 to continue playing online. There are several proxy servers you can run on your windows machine that will let your ps3 continue to work online reporting to psn that you have 3.42 even tho your only on 3.41.
This only works because the only thing 3.42 did was fix psfreedom so there is no real reason to have it.
I was reading up on this a little bit. From what I see for other phones, it seems like you need to flash your rom to PSGROOVE everytime you want to use it to play a game? Is that right?
If so, can the phone still work as a phone in the meantime?
i think as long as the kernel makes the usb device look like a hub then the rest is scripts i could be wrong though
if thats the case it would only need 1 flash, but i believe i read somewhere you loose usb mass storage capability something like that
some phones i think do have a rom dedicated for just PSFREEDOM
eitherway i would still use it and run a seperate copy of android from the SD when i wanted to play the ps3
the ones i've been looking at they arn't flashing, they are temporarily booting from a new image (using adb) that has insmod enabled and working so they can load the usb module and change the usb port on the phone to register as a hub instead. I havn't tried it myself yet but I do know we have insmod already enabled... or at least the command is there so we might not need that step.
Sony seems to be right ontop of everything tho, closing down things as they are discovered.

Latest Adobe Flash Player for Motorola XOOM tablet hacked to work with hulu.com

The following is a hack to get hulu.com working with the latest Adobe Flash Player 10.3.185.23 for the Motorola XOOM Tablet which consists of a hack of
/data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer/lib/libflashplayer.so by hex editing AND 10,3,185,23 to WIN 99,9,999,99 so it will work with HULU.
Using the apk - uninstall any existing Adobe Flash Player from your device before installing the new apk.
After you apply the above, to get this working, make sure to set your browser User Agent string to Desktop. With the stock Android browser and probably other browsers excluding the Dolphin browser, you might have to do this each time you run any flash based site including hulu.com or start the browser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686765
Newer versions will be posted towards the end of the thread.
what is hulu?
TY for developing this, but I think this would be better place in apps
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monyozt said:
what is hulu?
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Was that a real question?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulu
bwcorvus said:
TY for developing this, but I think this would be better place in apps
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Oops! Completely forgot there were multiple XOOM forums!
Does this work without root?
Almighty1 said:
Was that a real question?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulu
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Obviously.
Although the real question here is, what is sarcasm?
What am I missing? It doesn't work. Hulu doesn't even recognize flash with this hack. I must be doing something wrong. But what? I removed original flash, loaded this hack flash apk and about:debug to read as desktop the with no luck. Help!?
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laggy / choppy playback??
Thanks for updating this, but am I still the only one experiencing very sub par playback (choppy/laggy) with this hack? I highly doubt it is my internet connection , so what gives?? I mean the hack works, but I would hardly call it useable by any means. I'd feel a little better if more people were experiencing the same thing.
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What am I missing? It doesn't work. Hulu doesn't even recognize flash with this hack. I must be doing something wrong. But what? I removed original flash, loaded this hack flash apk and about:debug to read as desktop the with no luck. Help!?
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Works fine on rooted wifi 3.1
Works fine with rooted 3.1 and tiamat oc1.7
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madmak said:
Does this work without root?
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It should since that's the purpose of a apk.
joeski27 said:
Thanks for updating this, but am I still the only one experiencing very sub par playback (choppy/laggy) with this hack? I highly doubt it is my internet connection , so what gives?? I mean the hack works, but I would hardly call it useable by any means. I'd feel a little better if more people were experiencing the same thing.
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Even though I am the author of this hack, I know what you're referring to since this hack originally was done for phone devices and while it works for everyone else and even others with the Motorola Droid 1, when I use it on the Droid 1, I have the same problem as you and not only that, the flash process will get killed with the browser after a minute or two. Are you using 3G or WiFi?
Almighty1 said:
Even though I am the author of this hack, I know what you're referring to since this hack originally was done for phone devices and while it works for everyone else and even others with the Motorola Droid 1, when I use it on the Droid 1, I have the same problem as you and not only that, the flash process will get killed with the browser after a minute or two. Are you using 3G or WiFi?
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Thanks for covering it this time. I saw it drop but was a little busy . Good looking out
Awesome!
Thanks!! ;D
bigrushdog said:
Thanks for covering it this time. I saw it drop but was a little busy . Good looking out
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No problem BRD, I used to do only the libflashplayer.so hack for the past 6+ months and didn't know how to replace files in a apk and I didn't have a Xoom until the end of May so all modified apk's I have tested on my p3droid rooted stock ROM for the Motorola Droid 1 have always resulted in youtube and hulu acting as if flash was not installed, so for that, only replacing libflashplayer.so manually works. What's more funny is that even though I posted my libflashplayer.so on droid-life.com whenever there is a new version of flash, no one seems to recognize it until you made it available on the Xoom when it was mentioned on both droid-life.com and PCWorld. I usually will post the update within minutes to hours after I am aware of it which is usually within the same day except it's time consuming to be updating 1/2 a dozen threads on xda about the new flash with the hack after I test it on 3 different devices (Motorola Droid 1 using the libflashplayer.so, Motorola XOOM after patching and signing the apk with the libflashplayer.so after it works on the Droid 1, and then the HP eStation Zeen Tablet with both the market apk as it doesn't have market access and the libflashplayer.so) to make sure it works before releasing it to the world.
Almighty1 said:
Even though I am the author of this hack, I know what you're referring to since this hack originally was done for phone devices and while it works for everyone else and even others with the Motorola Droid 1, when I use it on the Droid 1, I have the same problem as you and not only that, the flash process will get killed with the browser after a minute or two. Are you using 3G or WiFi?
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I only ever use wifi (I own a 3g model but do not have 3g activated). And my desktop imac uses the same wireless internet connection and the same hulu video is smooth and flawless, so my internet connection isn't the issue.
What is bugging me the most is that I've repeatedly made comments about the crappiness of the playback and yet virtually no one so much has acknowledged me. Making me feel as though I'm the one and only person having these problems...or that no one else is being even remotely critical of the video quality. To me, "just works" does not necessarily mean its worth using.
I don't have a Xoom, but a Nexus One. Performance has always been crappy on my device. Flash says the video has not been optimized for mobile. I tend to believe them. Looks like the video is not being hardware decoded for some reason or another.
any ideas why opera mobile might fail to recognize this? getting no flash at all, but it works fine with flash from market...
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I only ever use wifi (I own a 3g model but do not have 3g activated). And my desktop imac uses the same wireless internet connection and the same hulu video is smooth and flawless, so my internet connection isn't the issue.
What is bugging me the most is that I've repeatedly made comments about the crappiness of the playback and yet virtually no one so much has acknowledged me. Making me feel as though I'm the one and only person having these problems...or that no one else is being even remotely critical of the video quality. To me, "just works" does not necessarily mean its worth using.
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While a Desktop imac uses the same wireless connection, remember the processing power of a mobile device will still be lacking compared to a actual computer. Even though they might both be wireless, the wireless chipset makes a difference too when it comes to latency, etc since Broadcom used in the Xoom isn't exactly a good chipset when you compare it to things like Atheros, Lucent/Agere. My desktop being a Pentium 4-3.2Ghz is actually slower than my Xoom and even my Droid 1 because for whatever reason, in 2009, the hardware just started getting really sluggish so the only way to even play flash is to pause it until the entire video is in the buffer, this is on a 6Mbps ADSL connection which works without issues with even my friends Netbooks when playing flash. Do you have the same problem with the market version without applying the hack since I don't know what BRD modified in his hack but in mines, it's just the version string so everything else is untouched and it should work exactly the same since there is no reverse engineering of the code or decompiling involved. The Xoom atleast works in my case unlike my Droid 1 which is basically suffering from the same thing you claim except on the Droid 1, all of a sudden, it will just exit back to the home screen all of a sudden, no one else seems to have that problem either. Adobe Flash itself is a CPU resource hog and it seemed to be better when it was Macromedia Flash. Lots of people or the general public out there doesn't really know what quality is or they just don't have something of reference quality to compare it to. Same thing when people buy audio/video equipment, audiophiles/videophiles like myself are picky while some people out there will just think anything is good based on the pricing or how expensive something is.

No webtop?

I thought it had it and that it was compatible with the 100 dock? The specs listed up top on xda say otherwise...
teeth_03 said:
I thought it had it and that it was compatible with the 100 dock? The specs listed up top on xda say otherwise...
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Nope I was wondering that too especially after seeing the video reviews and when they would hit About Phone I didn't see the Webtop section. And this article confirm it. http://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-atrix-hd-webtop-lapdock-not-supported-101012/
Nope...
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Great, now at&t has no new webtop phones, and i use them due to the rural area of the US i live in.
Id go to verizon in a heartbeat, but we dont get their service in the mountains...
No webtop is a bummer, no nfc no fm radio either.
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Maybe I should tale this thing back.....buncha Debby downers in here
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Doesn't need webtop
The A HD hooks up to hdtv via hdmi. Just gor finishing watching One Piece but I can't wait till it grts rooted! !!!!!
First picture is proof its the Atrix HD.
Second picture is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.
how the
kulow said:
This is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.
This is proof its the Atrix HD.
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how did u get it to work... did u used different cables to hook it up???
No, I just used the stock connector with the Lapdock 500. It's only doing hdmi mirroring though...not really "working" as other devices do.
Ok gottcha!!!!
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This is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.
This is proof its the Atrix HD.
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Does the Lapdock 500's camera work for Skype?
kulow said:
This is the Atrix HD hooked up to the Lapdock 500. It only does hdmi mirroring but everything else works such as ethernet, usb peripheral devices, and printing.
This is proof its the Atrix HD.
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It's only HDMI mirror because Webtop OS is not installed.
You'd need to find a motorola stock rom, mount it and use a file browser to extract The Webtop.apk
Simply installing the APK wouldnt work either because Webtop requires it's own partition on internal storage. Webtop OS is another operating system running ON TOP of Android. I dont see it working for our phone. This idea WORKS in theory, but I dont see anyone with a non motorola phone using a webtop mod. So its probably slim chance we'll see a working Webtop on the Atrix HD
Can anyone get me the apk's for webtop on another motorola device running ICS?
I'd be willing to try my hand at taking the apk apart and all that fun stuff.
They probably didnt add the webtop because they decided to downgrade to 8GB of storage, like there is much of a price difference between 8 and 16GB of flash memory these days...
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They probably didnt add the webtop because they decided to downgrade to 8GB of storage, like there is much of a price difference between 8 and 16GB of flash memory these days...
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Exactly, plus the whole webtop OS didnt sell as well as they'd hope under AT&T and the idea is dying off with Verizon.
@kulow:
Having the webtop APK is useless. It contains nothing about the OS. It's only a bridge to start it up when your plugged in.
WebOS sits on internal storage and a separate Operating System. It needs to be extracted and configured just like an Operating system.
Having the APK will just launch an App that will search for a non-existent Partition.
If you want it, go get an Image of a stock rom, mount it and use a file explorer to find the *.*apk
With only 8gb on our phone I could see Webtop taking up to 4gb since it needs its own partition. It's also very RAM hungry.
There is no use in trying to even fathom working on webtop when we have the issue of no Root and the Locked Bootloader.
Kedakari said:
@kulow:
Having the webtop APK is useless. It contains nothing about the OS. It's only a bridge to start it up when your plugged in.
WebOS sits on internal storage and a separate Operating System. It needs to be extracted and configured just like an Operating system.
Having the APK will just launch an App that will search for a non-existent Partition.
If you want it, go get an Image of a stock rom, mount it and use a file explorer to find the *.*apk
With only 8gb on our phone I could see Webtop taking up to 4gb since it needs its own partition. It's also very RAM hungry.
There is no use in trying to even fathom working on webtop when we have the issue of no Root and the Locked Bootloader.
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Well I've been doing some digging around on the Droid Razr forums and noticed that Webtop 3.0 for ICS was less webtop and more of a tablet view. Right now when you dock it does a mirror of your screen. I know this is probably way beyond my knowledge but the possibility of digging in to the structure and code of some of the apks involved with webtop 3.0 would lead us to a more tablet optimized view when connected to a lapdock.
Another thought was, when root/bootloader unlock happens, was to manually create the ext3 osh partition called by webtop and place the required files found in the osh partition from a similar device like the Razr.
I'm a novice at this so right now it's all baseless ideas that may prove to be impossible to do, but what is impossible for some may be possible for others.
kulow said:
Well I've been doing some digging around on the Droid Razr forums and noticed that Webtop 3.0 for ICS was less webtop and more of a tablet view. Right now when you dock it does a mirror of your screen. I know this is probably way beyond my knowledge but the possibility of digging in to the structure and code of some of the apks involved with webtop 3.0 would lead us to a more tablet optimized view when connected to a lapdock.
Another thought was, when root/bootloader unlock happens, was to manually create the ext3 osh partition called by webtop and place the required files found in the osh partition from a similar device like the Razr.
I'm a novice at this so right now it's all baseless ideas that may prove to be impossible to do, but what is impossible for some may be possible for others.
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If we could make a browser just for the resolution of mirrored mode, all you would need is a BT Keyboard&Mouse.
That would use way less resources on the device, and it would defeat the purpose of WebTop OS being installed and wasting all that space.
Is webtop 3.0 even considered a seperate OS?
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Is webtop 3.0 even considered a seperate OS?
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Technically yes and no.
Yes, because its a linux shell running off a partition under Android.
No, because it still requires Android to run.
The lapdocks seem to be as popular as chrome books.
I see Webtop being phased out on future devices.
As good as the webtop idea was, people still want all the gadgets and will still buy a tablet, netbook/laptop, and a phone, so the Lapdock is pretty obsolete.
It's slower than a netbook, and has less features than a tablet. $150 for the lapdock just for a full screen browser seems out of the question.
It becomes more useful with the Ubuntu mod, but it still has functionality issues.
It's annoying that it's gone now, but in all honesty it wasnt that useful. If you bring a lapdock, you might as well bring a netbook and tether it.

Webtop - will it work with CM9 or AOKP?

Seriously thinking about getting the lapdock, since the Atrix one is very cheap and easily modified to work with the Droid 4.
Only problem is I don't want to go back to the stock ROM. Has anyone gotten Webtop to work on one of the ICS based CM or AOKP ports?
Also how much control do you get in Webtop. I understand it's basically Ubuntu, but can you install new packages or build your own from source. Is there hardware access to the GPU?
If your on an ICS leak webtop is 3.0, which means it is just tablet ui and is no longer a "separate" system.
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Oh, that's a bit useless
I was looking forward to the idea of being able to boot into Ubuntu and compile full fat apps to run there.
Still interested in using it with a modded Atrix lapdock though. So does webtop work with AOKP?
not at the moment, because CM9 and AOKP still don't have support for HDMI-out.
What's up all
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Hey,
take a look at this http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=829571 (i know it's in french but it's the first link i've found about). In this post there is the link to the original source, which is in english. I don't know which point did they reached (testing ? alpha ? beta ?) but it's reaaaaly interesting (and that's a reason why i want to move to a D4 : my htc DZ is not powerful enough to run this).
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Hey,
take a look at this http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=829571 (i know it's in french but it's the first link i've found about). In this post there is the link to the original source, which is in english. I don't know which point did they reached (testing ? alpha ? beta ?) but it's reaaaaly interesting (and that's a reason why i want to move to a D4 : my htc DZ is not powerful enough to run this).
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I came to the D4 from a DZ too
That Ubuntu for Android is interesting, I was a little disappointed that webtop on ICS is just Android tablet UI rather than Ubuntu, however it is awesome that if you just use an HDMI cable the phone touchscreen changes into a touchpad!
I wonder how they are getting away with not publishing the source? As soon as a handset turns up for sale with Ubuntu on it, surely the source is going to have to come out or they will be violating the GPL, or is Ubuntu full of propriety closed source crap these days? (It's been a while since I used Linux as a desktop OS, and it was always Debian. Ubuntu didn't exist then)
On a related note, has anyone found a micro-HDMI cable that is actually capable of running at 1080p without corruption and sparklies. I have tried two and both were rubbish.
I got the motorola one from amazon, and it works flawlessly. I also got one from dealsextreme.com, which was considerably cheaper and free shipping, but they're services can be a bit shoddy at time, but I haven't had any big issues with them, and the cord quality is fine, no issues that I can see on my 1080p tv.
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moah909 said:
I got the motorola one from amazon, and it works flawlessly. I also got one from dealsextreme.com, which was considerably cheaper and free shipping, but they're services can be a bit shoddy at time, but I haven't had any big issues with them, and the cord quality is fine, no issues that I can see on my 1080p tv.
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I tried a Motorola one... it was better in that you could actually see the 1080p display, but still flashed and corrupted.
I know my monitor is more sensitive than most to poor quality HDMI devices (most notably the PS3), so I guess I'll just have to look for a fancy one, or a tiny adaptor to use with an existing good cable.
For those interested: I found a way to install Ubuntu on my ICS Droid 4. It comes with Firefox and LibreOffice, some options like installing new apps seem a bit limited (maybe not in the donate version?), but I didn't go into too much detail.
While it's probably not as integrated as the original WebTop was, it might be more flexible in terms of settings/applications. The way to access it is basically to start it via Terminal, then (Android) VNC to view / interact with the desktop.
The link to the free version is: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
There's also some donation keys available, not sure what features they add. For me, tinkering around with it for 5 minutes is probably all I need it for, and the image is 3.5 GB so I'll probably remove it soon. Still, awesome that it works!
Included screenshot shows some tinkering:
Google Chrome (PC) showing
Airdroid hosted on
Droid 4 showing
Live-feed of
Android VNC client connected to
Ubuntu VNC server running on
Android Ubuntu server, which is also running
Firefox browser showing
Airdroid running on
Droid 4 showing
Outdated live-feed of
Droid 4 running Android
(Disclaimer: the avid AirDroid user will note that you can't log in from 2 separate clients: that's correct, the Firefox AirDroid is actually disconnected, I just moved the 'connection lost' pop-up all the way to the right)

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On the Indiegogo page for the Ubuntu Edge, you can see a video of a proof of concept for the Ubuntu Desktop.
She used an app on a stock Nexus 4 (if I remember correctly, she says AOSP) and just launch it like that on Android and sent it to the screen.
Am I the only one who find this more amazing than running Ubuntu Touch on a Android phone ?
If you take a look at the size of the ARM Ubuntu version, you have a 500 MB file and I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
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I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
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As you point out, the video demonstrates a fully functional version of Ubuntu for Android. In the IRC channel, Ubuntu VP of engineering stated that U4A requires the Android OS to be modified slightly. I'm hopeful this process is unveiled soon and U4A becomes publicly available. It likely won't be very smooth on current commercially available hardware, and there's not really enough storage on an N4 to make it very practical, but it would still be nice to get a glimpse of computing convergence.
Thank you for your answer, is there any way to have access to this discussion ?
It seems pretty smooth on the video, which is surprising when you know the current hardware limitation on Android ...
For the storage, the cloud allows you to only download the file you need so it might not really be a problem.
I'm currently thinking about building a NAS to use it as a storage and download platform, it might be a custom solution for this problem.
Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
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Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!
Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en
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Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
EDIT
Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!
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Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
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Your link is not valid and I didn't find anything on the Play Store with the name Ubuntu.
illgodson said:
Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en
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This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Korgall said:
Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself
Nice thank you gonna give it a try tonight.
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the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?
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Im interested. Hope this gets updated soon
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This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself
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You're a genius :good:
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the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?
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Currently its just 12.04 on Ubuntus side as we aimed to make alot of changes for our 13 release, but its coming
So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake
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So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Okay, cool. I am extremely interested in this and I am a developer as well, so if there is anything you need tested or anything I can help you work on, please let me know.
I have a rooted Nexus 4 with sock jelly bean on it. I have played with installing Ubuntu Phone on it a few months back, but went back to android as I felt extremely limited in Ubuntu Phone.
I have the SlimPort® SP1002 from Amazon coming today. As I said before I would love to run it without the lag of VNC. Convergence is my main goal and I am so excited about Edge, but I want the Ubuntu for Android app for my Nexus 4 that I saw Leann talk about being already ready toady. Any idea of where/when we can get it?
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Will you implement native chroot at some point too?
So now that the Ubuntu Edge campaign has failed, if/when do you think they will release Ubuntu for Android? I am going to get the new Nexus (Nexus 5?) and hopefully they will have it released for that phone.

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