[mac noob] best way to run windows programs on OSX? - Off-topic

Tho I'm a PC guy, I am still the family techie. So when my uncle called me and asked me to help him run windows programs, which he hasily defined as "work stuff", onto his Mac ( 15" 4:3 core 2 duo MacBook Pro w/ Lion) I said I'd help.
I knew of a couple different ways to do it - bootcamp, parallels, wine, vmware, ect- and after a little Googling, I called him back and asked him about dual booting Windows 7. He would really rather avoid having to power down his computer and boot it back up whenever he needed to run his software, but he wouldn't mind having to buy a seat of W7 if it would make it work hassle free after I set it up.
So, of the avalible options, what would give the best overall system performance? I may end up doing this on his i7 iMac as well, if he likes whatever I do.
I know there are Mac users here, so I hope you can help.

wine http://www.winehq.org/

Or parallels. It will run a windows environment on top of Mac OSX

thanks for the answers guys, but i know what the options are. I was wondering, from someone who has experience, which works best? Surely there's one that works easier or faster than the others?

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OEM Vista Home Premium to Ultimate

Hi, I got Vista Home Premium on my PC, its an OEM copy so as far as I know I can't use it with another PC. But, if I buy OEM Vista Ultimate will I be able to install it on the same PC?
I don't want to updgrade, I will be doing a fresh install on a formatted Hard Disk. But I just wondered if OEM versions (eg: Vista HP) send my motherboard serial number to Microsfot and prevent another copy of OEM (eg: Vista Ultimate) being installed on it. I don't want to run them at the same time either, just "swap versions" basically.
Thanks!
it would not be logical for ms to block it that way as it would result in them selling less copies
p.s. why get ultimate?
i ask because alot of people seem to go for the name more then the difference between them
unless one require the 64bit vista or want the
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx
ms versions of what many other 3th party programs offer in a grater quality
then there really is no reason to get ultimate
it's not faster or better just extre included tools
Windows BitLocker Drive Encryption
* unless one have REALLY secret stuff then it's more trouble then it's worth slows the system down a bit
and if one have to reinstall one cant count on getting the encrypted data back
Remote Desktop Connection
* only really usefull for servers imho where one dont wish to have to go to the server room to mess about and then do it remotely from another pc
Windows Fax and Scan
*scanners always comes with software & Fax? is stoneage tech along with teletext on tv's--
Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore
*much better 3th party backup programs then anything with ms's name on it
I use a *cough* OEM version using acer certs (acer laptop) and I find I prefer ultimate because I have used it more than Home Premium which shipped with it.
Rudegar said:
it would not be logical for ms to block it that way as it would result in them selling less copies
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I agree, I'm just worried that no one else has tried this and I'll come across a problem.
Rudegar said:
p.s. why get ultimate?
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I got Vista HP as soon as it was released. Then six months later I got Windows Home Server as soon as it was released. Turns out that Remote Desktop'ing from the web to your home PC (via Windows Home Server) is only possible with Vista Ultimate. A big annouance for Home Premium buyers.
There are some tweaks for Vista HP, but I am thinking I wil go down this route.
Vista Ultimate
Hi,
I have a copy of Vista OEM running on my home machine. It's not a problem although if you do change the hardware significantly (upgrade the BIOS, add CD drives) etc and then need to re-install it you may need to call Microsoft in order to activate it again. However, I've had to do this a couple of time with no problems from MS.
Actually you wont need to reactivate unless you change your mobo or its bios. but what i've done... i`ve patched the SLIC table in ACPI table in my bios, added Asus OEM certificate and now have ultimate (modified with vlite) which even passes WGA tests)) but if you buy a legal copy of ultimate, you can install it no matter what SLA information is in your bios
foaf said:
Turns out that Remote Desktop'ing from the web to your home PC (via Windows Home Server) is only possible with Vista Ultimate. A big annouance for Home Premium buyers.
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Not sure exactly how you are trying to do this, but I have no problems, using my Vista Home Premium Laptop to connect to my WHS box and use RDP... Are you sure that your WHS has the ports opened properly...?
" Remote Desktop'ing from the web to your home PC (via Windows Home Server) is only possible with Vista Ultimate. A big annouance for Home Premium buyers."
as far as i know it's also possible with business version of vista
but of cause that lacks mediacenter and such
So for those of you you want Remote Desktop "server" capabilities on your computer and want Vista Ultimate for that reason alone, check out:
http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1220&Itemid=232
-R
Thanks for all the replies.
@ debonairone - I'm talking about being at a 'kiosk' pc and visiting http://myserver.homeserver.com, and being able to remote desktop into my Vista PC. I can RDP to the WHS from within Vista.
@ sketchy9 - Thanks, that is the work around I mentioned before. Seems like a lot of tweaking for me.
sketchy9 said:
So for those of you you want Remote Desktop "server" capabilities on your computer and want Vista Ultimate for that reason alone, check out:
http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1220&Itemid=232
-R
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:up: Yes, and that Remote Desktop and multiple sessions hack works wonderfuly on Premium........
........until one installs SP1. I won't be surprised if it'll only be a few weeks until a new RD dll hack is developed to resolve the SP1 changes.

[Q] migrated to osx...signing apks, creating updates, etc...help :)

So long story short, my trusted laptop finally died after 3 years of abuse. A friend at apple asked me, "if i can get you a great deal on a mbp, would you consider a switch?". sure why not. yada yada yada, I am now using osx.
okay...
so there are still lots of things I am sorting out. I have all the basics already taken care of; sdk, fastboot, adb, blah blah blah. Those were easy. After some searching, I can only seem to locate windows/linux tools for the following (I'll admit, I could probably search more but I KNOW there are people on here who have these setup on their apples so I am defaulting to you):
-resigning apks
-creating an update.zip
-deodexing
Once I get that sorted, I am going to move onto this one...is it possible to build from source in osx or do I still require a linux machine?
That's it for now. So any of you osx users with any of the above already solved, your help would be greatly appreciated Even just links would suffice.
I am sorta in a rush as I am taking over the responsibilities for the miui rom and while that would have been trivial leading up to this switch, it doesn't seem to be that way right now until I get this stuff resolved
Cheers!
I may be turning this into an FAQ once I am done.
Thus far I have found the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4208447&postcount=3
fun times
Have you looked in to running parallels. There is program called VM FusionWare which will let you run Windows in an active OSX. I think it's a really good program, although I haven't used any of the competing software. IMO it's a necessary addition to a MBP. (WIN XP SP2 runs great)
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Would you consider to switch to Linux if Windows 8 dissapoint you

Microsoft next operating system for PC's will be Windows 8, something which I don't wanna go and use.
They use the metro interface and I don't see in anyway how this is suited for power users and pc in general, its looks more suited for an tablet.
So for me its an reason for not even wanna test Windows 8, I will skip it and if I didnt use Windows for playing CoD MW3 then I would switch for sure, because with Linux you have many choices in desktop inviroments, like KDE, GNOME, XFCE and others.
Where I do find KDE the best, there interface is modern and they keep improving and bug fixing.
Ofcourse we saw how Ubuntu suddenly introduced unity as standard user interface and dropped GNOME, but atleast you have choices. And not to forget Linux is lighter then Windows and does not need virus scanner.
You can turn off the metro interface in settings and go back to default windows style.
Then I have an Windows 7 look or what? But they still force the interface default onto you, as you say I need to switch to the default Windows style.
Yes, it'll look like Win7 with a couple of new features and such. You can download the Preview now and test it for yourself.
But Windows is an operating system you need pay for. Unless you buy an new notebook, why would you upgrade to Windows 8?
Yes I can test it? But like you say if I put off metro interface its Windows 7 with a couple more features, that is also reason why I consider to switch to Linux, if you have an Xbox 360 or PS3 for gaming then the gaming is not an problem.
I also feel performance with Linux is better, boot time is faster also, but I don't dare to switch because I have one app called QQ that I use to communicate and I already tested in an virtual machine how the video chat off webQQ 3.0 works, it will give receiver and link which you can see the person using webQQ.
I would switch if it wasnt for game part and this one app called QQ.
- QQ(Web)
- QQ for Linux
You can use WINE for gaming. You can check which games works with Wine here
Windows 8 has been written mainly with touchscreens in mind, hence the metro interface. If it's not a touchscreen device then you turn off metro and use it like standard Windows, but with new features. Personally, I don't see any difference between going from Windows 8 to Linux or going from Windows 7 to Linux. Basically, Windows to Linux is what we're talking about here and it's like asking if you prefer apples or oranges. I like both, but I don't have a favourite. I'd rather have both so I can pick and chose what suits at the time.
LordManhattan said:
- QQ(Web)
- QQ for Linux
You can use WINE for gaming. You can check which games works with Wine here
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Yes I check Wine database before I do something drastrical, because my GPU also needs https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee
So I know that wine can solve it, but in case off QQ and CoD MW3 it does not work. The Linux version off QQ only exists because the Chinese goverment putted pressure on Tecent to make an client for Linux.
Right now it doesn't even has an reason to exist, because using WebQQ 3.0 gives you more features then the Linux version, but I tested it and you can use video chat in WebQQ but your contact will get your video in an webbrowser, not in her or his QQ window.
So I tested it all before even installing Linux, because really I like KDE, but how are you going explain to your friends, sorry you need start using Skype with me because there is no good QQ client with proper video chat for Linux.
For OSX there is, so hackintosh is possible.
Both Windows and Linux are different platform and used for different purpose.
So its not like going to Linux, if Windows fails.
For something you need Linux, and for something you need Windows.
And for something you need Mac OSX too.
There you wrong in, all can be used as desktop operating system, the only difference is you probably use other apps for certain tasks.
So will you use iTunes for music on OSX, but in Linux you will use another app which offers same functionality.
Only thing what is still an fact is that Windows is better if you like use your pc for gaming, Linux does not have many games, osx is the same story but there are still more games for OSX then Linux.
I can name an list off app which you can use on all three.
Firefox
VMWare
Virtualbox
Skype
VLC
Chrome
Handbrake
Sabnzbd+
And for most Windows software you will find alternatives, but IM software can be sometimes an problem. Like Gimp is an alternative for photoshop and Gimp can also be used on Windows.
But its true that you will find some software not on Linux, but you can always use wine for trying the Windows software and wine is not an emulator.
DexterMorganNL said:
There you wrong in, all can be used as desktop operating system, the only difference is you probably use other apps for certain tasks.
So will you use iTunes for music on OSX, but in Linux you will use another app which offers same functionality.
Only thing what is still an fact is that Windows is better if you like use your pc for gaming, Linux does not have many games, osx is the same story but there are still more games for OSX then Linux.
I can name an list off app which you can use on all three.
Firefox
VMWare
Virtualbox
Skype
VLC
Chrome
Handbrake
Sabnzbd+
And for most Windows software you will find alternatives, but IM software can be sometimes an problem.
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The main things I use Windows for are:
Visual Studio
Sony Acid
Sony Sound Forge
Adobe Creative Suite
None of them have suitable alternatives on Linux - not even close. Some of them will partially function under Wine but that's not enough.
There is definitely the argument that you do need Windows for some things, but I can't think of any reason why I need Linux over it. (I do use both - I have my PC dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.)
In fact, you can't avoid any OS's
For .NET programmers, there is no other choice than to use Windows.
For Android ROM/Kernel compiling, then Linux is mandatory.
For iPhone app development (XCode?) then I guess Mac is mandatory.
I'm no fan off dual booting, because I have expensive GB's ( SSD's ). But yes sadly on video editing there is not any powerfull program for Linux.
But there are some opensource video editors which I think are not bad, maybe you never heard off the one I'm to name now.
http://www.kdenlive.org/
Video editor for Linux, I think its very good, don't know how far it is now but last time I used it was good for editing video.
I made this AMV with it in 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjgixJc-rE8
But it depends, sometime you really need Windows or OSX ( Just use osx86 ), but most times the average user does not need it.
Maybe i'll reinstall windows 7 or buy a mac. because i'm not the biggest linuxfan..
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Since when do people pay for windows!! :O looololololololol
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Since when do people pay for windows!! :O looololololololol
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I do indirect because you get an license for Windows 7 home premium if you buy an notebook. An notebook without Windows on it would be more expensive for sure.
Linux die hards would want it without this license and apply for a refund, but honestly this time I choose not to do that and keep the license because I use Windows 7 now.
I got an refund from dell for Windows 7 home premium, but I could use the license afterwards still.
I think I would switch back to Win 7 instead.
W7 is most likely going to be the next XP, as in there are likely to be companies demanding it's availability in 10 years time.
I support several companies which insist on XP.
Every few years I dabble with Linux and I've yet to be impressed.
I dual boot with Ubuntu 11.10 and it has many failings over Windows.
Take support for Exchange, previous versions used Evolution but 11.10 comes with Thunderbird. Evolution is only good if you're not running anything newer than Exchange 2003, so while I can use it to access my personal email on my 2003 server, I can't connect to work as they use Exchange 2010.
Just been round a friend's house today and he's moved onto Ubuntu at home because he has to deal with Windows all day at work. Discovered that even though the screen had timed out (PC hadn't been touched for a couple of hours) he was able to open a terminal session before the screen then dimmed and locked, so great security there.
The title of this thread shouldn't be a question, it should be a statement aimed to persuade.
xaccers said:
W7 is most likely going to be the next XP, as in there are likely to be companies demanding it's availability in 10 years time.
I support several companies which insist on XP.
Every few years I dabble with Linux and I've yet to be impressed.
I dual boot with Ubuntu 11.10 and it has many failings over Windows.
Take support for Exchange, previous versions used Evolution but 11.10 comes with Thunderbird. Evolution is only good if you're not running anything newer than Exchange 2003, so while I can use it to access my personal email on my 2003 server, I can't connect to work as they use Exchange 2010.
Just been round a friend's house today and he's moved onto Ubuntu at home because he has to deal with Windows all day at work. Discovered that even though the screen had timed out (PC hadn't been touched for a couple of hours) he was able to open a terminal session before the screen then dimmed and locked, so great security there.
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Exchange is something from Windows, ofcourse you have an chance with trouble if you use exchange on an non windows operating system.

[Q] Advice for my project

So i'll be going to pick up my pi from ups tomorrow, and thought i would get somew advice from those wiser then myself.
The main function for my pi will be as a media player, from my external hdd. But i also want it to act as a server for the drive, allowing streaming and file transfers through my lan for both android devices and win vista/7 computers. In addition i would like it to serve as a network bridge for my xbox(i'm too cheap to spring for a wifi reciever) via ethernet. Also some light web broswing/youtubeing.
My big question is: Which OS would be best for these purposes, and what programs/packages would i need. Would i be better off with openelec or raspbmc. Or raspian with xbmc? This is somewhat new territory for me, and i'm anxious to learn. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on what would work best
As you want to do different tasks I would recommend the standard Debian to you, because it's designed for general tasks. Special distributions like raspmbc are designed for one thing they are good at (my humble point of view )
I would install android on this device, of course with a costum rom spezial for the device... I hope some developers would do it Then I want buy me a Raspberry Pi too
Yeah if you wanted to have the option of downloading applications other than xbmc, like browser, games, etc. then i would suggest installing a Debian based system such as Raspian.
If you want a more automatic install and you are new to linux then use either Debian or Debian-based "Raspian"
Personally i like Arch Linux OS because it is the lightest distro out and most customizable, meaning you choose everything you want to install no bloatware unless you choose to add it. From A to Z you know whats installed. Great documentation out there as far as the fully manual install process.
@akakai, I couldn't disagree more. If you know what you are doing, you can do the same with Debian. I do it myself when I set up servers or desktops.
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@akakai, I couldn't disagree more. If you know what you are doing, you can do the same with Debian. I do it myself when I set up servers or desktops.
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i didnt say you couldnt do it, but im saying Arch Linux if you have ever used it. Starts you out in a terminal with no gui whatsoever. the only way it comes... yeah in Debian you can do the same thing, but there is a GUI option.
Dont disagree on a non issue. Generally Debian is known for being preconfigured where as Arch linux is not preconfigured for you at all, unless you get a derivative of it.
Dont want to start anything, but add to the post by stating facts or how you can help the guy asking for advice not putting down what i have said that is actually accurate info.
For what 4Gb SD cards cost these days, get two or three and load them up with various distros and try them all out to your heart's content.
If you make a hash of something, reload the image and start again.
Eventually, when you have got it to do what you want, put it on to a bigger, more expensive card, if you need that amount of storage.
All images are for 2Gb SD cards. The Debian release has an option on initial boot up to expand the root partition to the available size of the disk. With Arch you will have to roll your sleeves up, and do it yourself first with Gparted Live or something similar.
Good luck!
Update: The Rasbian build now requires a 4Gb card minimum.
Advice for medium length project.
I am thinking about creating a cluster for scientific high performance computing, but I know close to zero on this hardware. where to begin? Start with creating a PC and expand from there? Any advice would be helpful for a multiyear project.

Run Windows 8 / Win 10 on my Nokia phone on an external monitor

Hi! I am constantly in need to use my laptop but I cannot carry it anywhere. So I thought what if it is possible to install and run Win 8/Win10 on my android phone (without of course removing or tampering too much with the stock OS, so that I can do some work on an external monitor?
1st of all lets see if the hardware can support this:
1) Does the Nokia 7 plus support HDMI through its USB port?
2) Does the Nokia 7 plus support HDMI over WiFi? If not can we use 3rd party app to send display through WiFi?
3) The Nokia 7 plus supports up to 256 GB of microSD storage capacity, so we have plenty of space to run Windows.
4)The CPU: What do you think, can this CPU run Win 8/10 and make simple tasks like text editing? PDF work? Spreadsheet work? Etc etc?
Thanx to all willing to answer these questions!
Lol
Why do you SPAM if you don;t have anything to say???
Some Ubuntu/Linux made an HYBRID OS that could turn your Smartphone into a DESKTOP PC by simply connecting an external monitor and mouse/keyboard
Then Nokia phones running Windows OS for phones had the same ability!
I have a vanilla clean Android device and I want to install/run Windows OS somehow parallel to it so I can take my phone out of my pocket and access my windows programs when in need (spreadsheets for examples and do work).
I know that there are some EMULATORS but I prefer something better than that.
Thank you!
contractubex said:
Why do you SPAM if you don;t have anything to say???
Some Ubuntu/Linux made an HYBRID OS that could turn your Smartphone into a DESKTOP PC by simply connecting an external monitor and mouse/keyboard
Then Nokia phones running Windows OS for phones had the same ability!
I have a vanilla clean Android device and I want to install/run Windows OS somehow parallel to it so I can take my phone out of my pocket and access my windows programs when in need (spreadsheets for examples and do work).
I know that there are some EMULATORS but I prefer something better than that.
Thank you!
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It's impossible even unlock the bootloader (in a simple and free way) or install a custom rom...
Once again, lol. It's x86 architecture vs arm. Windows doesn't have full arm support. Also, thermally your phone will die trying to run windows. It's a really badly optimized os. I would have figured that lol would have been a precise enough answer to tell you that it's not possible.
Nobody ever attempted to do what you want to achieve.
Samsung Dex also runs in the Android System.
Linux can be compiled to run on Arm, Windows is still pending.
If you are in need for a small windows machine, buy GPD Pocket or migrate your workflow in Google docs and use the apps to edit your documents.
contractubex said:
Some Ubuntu/Linux made an HYBRID OS that could turn your Smartphone into a DESKTOP PC by simply connecting an external monitor and mouse/keyboard
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But is "simple" difference, both Android and GNU/Linux use Linux as kernel, then if you run GNU/Linux on top of Android, then use same/running kernel.
contractubex said:
Then Nokia phones running Windows OS for phones had the same ability!
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This is too something else, Windows 10 Mobile OS has/had similar NT kernel/libraries as Windows 10, anyway this not run x86 application and too not arm native applications, but ONLY modern/metro apps, and need adapting app for running on big screen...
contractubex said:
I have a vanilla clean Android device and I want to install/run Windows OS somehow parallel to it so I can take my phone out of my pocket and access my windows programs when in need (spreadsheets for examples and do work).
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you want to run two DIFFERENT OS with DIFFERENT KERNEL and DIFFERENT LIBRARY and both native, without emulation, this is impossible, until some (Microsoft, or some reverse engineerings, or WINE developers or.. ) make (wtih BIG work and MANTIME) some kernel/library translation layer...
Guys, why do you reject stuff that I have seen working years ago?
youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
ok I found the video, check for yourself! ^^^
OK thanx for the info, I wil lwait some time until someone releases this for later version of Android....
and btw they ran this OS in 2012..now its 2019....
contractubex said:
youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
ok I found the video, check for yourself! ^^^
OK thanx for the info, I wil lwait some time until someone releases this for later version of Android....
and btw they ran this OS in 2012..now its 2019....
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on video is NOT Android, but UbuntuPhone, this is GNU/Linux OS with multiUI=for_small&for_big screen, and with some "libraries" same as on reguler GNU/Linux desktop, then is possible run native GNU/Linux (for ARM) applications...
again, Windows is different OS, with different kernel and different libraries, then is imposible run it without emulation on top of any Android (=with Linux kernel)...
if you need full desktop on external monitor connected to phone with Android, with "full" speed without emulation, then only way is run Linux distro in chroot...
windows is closed software, runs on x86/64 cpu architecture, even if someone really wanted to do this, it's not possible.
ubuntu unity worked because a) open source and b) based on linux, just like android.
no, nokia 7 plus doesnt support hdmi at all. yes, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Is it possible this is a wind up / trolling.

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