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I dont think quad core is worth using

a friend got a HTC ONE X which is using Tegra3. Just so so.

Yes, because ICS is not optimized for quad core. Plus, it is Tegra 3 which means no support.
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Yes, because ICS is not optimized for quad core.
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Sorry, but how is that so? What is your definition of an OS not being "optimized" for multiple cores? Based on my limited knowledge, kernels take control of the activation and deactivation of the cores, and the apps themself are the ones that are supposed to "take advantage" of the cores.
How is an OS supposed be "optimized" for a quad core CPU?

tkkyobaby1 said:
a friend got a HTC ONE X which is using Tegra3. Just so so.
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Now I think buying a tegra inside device is not a good idea, the same with lg.

kaspar737 said:
Yes, because ICS is not optimized for quad core. Plus, it is Tegra 3 which means no support.
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That is up there with some of the stupidest things iv ever read.

I think the Android ecosystem is so complex that occasional lags are bound to happen even if we reach a point of using 8 cores on a smartphone. (And that, is why iOS is so smooth with slower hardware. It's a simpler OS.)
But the Tegra3 pretty much leaves everyone in the dust when it comes to games.

But when it comes to support... oh noes
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kaspar737 said:
But when it comes to support... oh noes
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The international version of the HTC One X with Tegra 3 has already gotten its full sources released a while ago.
At least it seems Nvidia isn't as unsupportive as we think they are. LG, apparently, is the one that is holding back from releasing sources for us.

Yea, but when Android 5 comes out then I hope that they will release all the necessary stuff. That may make me think better about Nvidia.
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The international version of the HTC One X with Tegra 3 has already gotten its full sources released a while ago.
At least it seems Nvidia isn't as unsupportive as we think they are. LG, apparently, is the one that is holding back from releasing sources for us.
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With nvidia drivers and hals to the public?

tkkyobaby1 said:
a friend got a HTC ONE X which is using Tegra3. Just so so.
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ok good for you
now i am goign to enjoy my Quad Core phone again okay?

What is the point of this thread? As for desktop PC's, more cores = better (most of the time). Since dual cores work just fine in both GB and ICS the same goes for quad cores. And NO, quad cores don't mean less battery duration.

Maybe he is just jeaulous but i dont think a phone needs quad core. For web browsing and watching videos (well.. lol tegra 2 ) some gameing. dual core is more than enough. As i mentiond some time ago in other thread this reminds me of megapixel hunt in compact digital cameras market.
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tkkyobaby1 said:
a friend got a HTC ONE X which is using Tegra3. Just so so.
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And what was the purpose of posting it here? do you want to make an excuse that quadcore isn't nowhere near better than dualcore?
I agree with someone said quadcore isn't really important for mobile phone. If only O2x have more than 512 MB RAM I bet it will last for next 2-3 years

Durio said:
And what was the purpose of posting it here? do you want to make an excuse that quadcore isn't nowhere near better than dualcore?
I agree with someone said quadcore isn't really important for mobile phone. If only O2x have more than 512 MB RAM I bet it will last for next 2-3 years
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It can still last for 2-3 years, you just wont be able to multitask when playing games so much in the future.
quadcores will be **** if they dont have that 5th core for when there isnt much going on or they will chew through battery.
The new huwai something has its own quadcore and it smashes all cuurent quad cores in benchmarks, tegra 3 the exenos ect. But if it doesnt have that 5th core it will probably be bad. Its said to come with a 2300mah battery.

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It can still last for 2-3 years, you just wont be able to multitask when playing games so much in the future.
quadcores will be **** if they dont have that 5th core for when there isnt much going on or they will chew through battery.
The new huwai something has its own quadcore and it smashes all cuurent quad cores in benchmarks, tegra 3 the exenos ect. But if it doesnt have that 5th core it will probably be bad. Its said to come with a 2300mah battery.
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But branding sometimes matter. Market rarely pay attention to a brand like Huawei,compared to samsung. I heard Meizu MX also decent but yeah it has the same market problem
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Durio said:
But branding sometimes matter. Market rarely pay attention to a brand like Huawei,compared to samsung. I heard Meizu MX also decent but yeah it has the same market problem
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The Meizu MX Quad has pretty good specs (including the same Exynos 4212 in the S3), but is sold only in China. It's not meant to compete internationally.

Most useless thread ever.

My HTC one x is a hundred times better than my o2x was
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Kickasskev said:
My HTC one x is a hundred times better than my o2x was
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and o2x is hundred times cheaper...common sense

[Q] Off-topic about Goophone...

anyone tried this phone? is this a good phone? im planning to buy a cheap extra phone and i saw this... it looks really good because it looks like an iphone 4s, i just dont know how is the performance and quality of this phone... any feedback guys? thanks in advance...

It's CPU is a 650mHz cpu, so don't expect miracles, even if it have 512MB RAM. It's a fake (chinese?) Iphone, so it will have a lot ot flaws. I rather suggest you to NOT buy a this phone.
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Asycid said:
It's CPU is a 650mHz cpu, so don't expect miracles, even if it have 512MB RAM. It's a fake (chinese?) Iphone, so it will have a lot ot flaws. I rather suggest you to NOT buy a this phone.
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mikel_0004 said:
anyone tried this phone? is this a good phone? im planning to buy a cheap extra phone and i saw this... it looks really good because it looks like an iphone 4s, i just dont know how is the performance and quality of this phone... any feedback guys? thanks in advance...
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Might want to have a look at this one instead.. Newer processor working at 1GHz.
http://android-sale.com/goophone-y5-retina-screen-1ghz-mt6575-processor-smartphone.html
It has been lowered in price from around $250 to now $210 - so it is just $10 higher than the one you have looked at..
And the Goophone Y5 is supported at my best at my site at
http://www.dkmdesign.dk

Anyone Else Disappointed By The CPU?

I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...

GBGamer said:
I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??

ben83s said:
Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??
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no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.

GBGamer said:
I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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i am not into this topic right now but afaik there is no real open source hardware competitor on a tegra 3 level

gh123man said:
no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.
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I see what you mean. But when your trying to copy the Kindle Fire and go main stream global, you need something that proven to work. IMHO at £160 its a big anouph gamble all ready.

No, the tegra 3 isn't as good as it should be, but for web surfing, a little gaming and movies and music, its more than enough. Quit griping. Lol
People always find something to complain about. Lol

OP the problem is the price. For $200 you need to go with the cheapest high end processor available, and apparently that is what Nvidia did with the Kai El project to put out speedy, low price tablets. Personally dual core is quick enough for me, plus I just bought a 7" tablet so...
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Yes, the tegra 3 isnt the best chip-set, but if they went with the snapdragon s4 they would have horrible supply issues, as there isnt enough s4's as it is. Also this was made by asus who has an existing relationship with nvida. Google has used this as a reference platform so it will be heavily optimized so performance shouldn't be an issue especially considering the screen resolution, keep in mind this is the same processor that runs the transformer prime at 1080p, without all the new gpu goodies. fyi all current tablets run tegra 3's

Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.

Cares said:
Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.
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I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?

darkamikaze said:
So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?
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Nah, it just means slower Dev updates after Google has given it up.
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GBGamer said:
I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
So does this mean a non developer Nexus device?
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It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, but apps are.

dalkor said:
AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, apps are.
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Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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My opinion tegra 3 is the best CPU+GPU combo until the s4 quad core. I have a tegra 3 on my one x and hardly any lag whatsoever. Games look amazing, and amazing standby times. Maybe the nexus 7 will force nvidia to release drivers ect because of the demand
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tegra3 optimized games are by far the best Android games around. Tegra3 is no slouch, CPU or gpu wise. there will be no issues with custom roms. One X has a ton of custom roms/kernels. Prime has alot of roms also. I'm sure Nexus 7 will be far more popular than either of them.

GBGamer said:
Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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For $199 ? And they don't arrive until Q3/Q4.

For 200$ hell no I'm not disappointed
Stop complaining about everything!!!
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I <3 Tegra. Got a Tegra phone and tegra tsblet... so gonna get the N7. I don't see what the problem is. Its very fast and good for gaming from the TegraZone
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The Tegra 3 is actually a pretty powerful chipset. Think it's tainted a bit by being the 'child' of the Tegra 2, which was not as great as we hoped it would be. Combined with some of the performance improvements in Jelly Bean I expect this device to fly.

[ISSUE] PC BUILDERS Please Help!

So before I go into any details and to avoid any possible biased answer, if you are familiar with computer hardware or building PC's in general; Do yall see any issues/incompatibilities with this hardware:
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Newegg:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
- Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
- Seagate ST3250310CS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Newegg:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
- Diablotek PHD Series PHD380M 380W Micro ATX Power Supply
Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
Forgot to add the motherboard, fail lol:
- ASRock H61M-GE LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157256
As far as I can tell, no, but then again I am a newbie when it comes to this. Thanks in advance!

You seem to be missing a motherboard!

As this has nothing to do with Android or Windows Phone mobile devices, moved to Off-topic.

I'm no expert, but I would definitely be getting a MUCH higher output PSU.
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And maybe clue us in on your budget, because what I see so far is a mixed bag, half-empty.
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Depends
SolInvictus said:
I'm no expert, but I would definitely be getting a MUCH higher output PSU.
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If he is just running the the single hard drive and perhaps a low-mid range gaming card that PSU will work fine. When you start adding more drives and high power hungry gaming cards then yes he would need to move up to a higher dual rail PSU.

phishphinger said:
You seem to be missing a motherboard!
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I am, forgot to add it. Its there now, thanks for the heads up

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As this has nothing to do with Android or Windows Phone mobile devices, moved to Off-topic.
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Thank you, much appreciated

ShawnReeves said:
If he is just running the the single hard drive and perhaps a low-mid range gaming card that PSU will work fine. When you start adding more drives and high power hungry gaming cards then yes he would need to move up to a higher dual rail PSU.
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Thats correct, I only plan on using one optical drive, one hard drive and just the integrated graphics on the i3 so that PSU should hold up fine.
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And maybe clue us in on your budget, because what I see so far is a mixed bag, half-empty.
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Its pretty much just a low budget computer for family use, nothing big.

So the question still remains, do you guys see any incompatibility issues?
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iLeopard said:
So the question still remains, do you guys see any incompatibility issues?
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Nope.
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iLeopard said:
So the question still remains, do you guys see any incompatibility issues?
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Nope.
But I would make the following changes/additions:
- Bump the RAM up to 2 x 4GB
- Throw in an SSD.

ohyeahar said:
Nope.
But I would make the following changes/additions:
- Bump the RAM up to 2 x 4GB
- Throw in an SSD.
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Yup.
To the OP...You can always go higher, but if the you budget is strict, build it, use it, then make your determination.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Nope.
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Nope.
But I would make the following changes/additions:
- Bump the RAM up to 2 x 4GB
- Throw in an SSD.
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Thanks for the replies guys. The reason I ask is because these are the parts I purchased to rebuild the family computer. Well I plugged everything in and the fans spun and everything but I got no video signal on my monitor. I tried with a discrete graphics card and with every possible input on the mobo but still no video signal. I RMA'd as defective but I wanted to make sure I didn't make a dumb mistake when something was incompatible.

iLeopard said:
Thanks for the replies guys. The reason I ask is because these are the parts I purchased to rebuild the family computer. Well I plugged everything in and the fans spun and everything but I got no video signal on my monitor. I tried with a discrete graphics card and with every possible input on the mobo but still no video signal. I RMA'd as defective but I wanted to make sure I didn't make a dumb mistake when something was incompatible.
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Hmm...what gfx card did you try it with?
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Hmm...what gfx card did you try it with?
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I tried a cheap PNY GEFORCE GT 610, just to see if it would work but still no video signal.
I shouldn't even need a graphics card though, the 2120 has integrated HD 2000 Graphics and the motherboard supports HD 2000/3000

iLeopard said:
I tried a cheap PNY GEFORCE GT 610, just to see if it would work but still no video signal.
I shouldn't even need a graphics card though, the 2120 has integrated HD 2000 Graphics and the motherboard supports HD 2000/3000
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Yeah, the integrated CPU graphics should handle normal use just fine.
The gt610 I think is DDR3...is that what the motherboard supports?
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Yeah, the integrated CPU graphics should handle normal use just fine.
The gt610 I think is DDR3...is that what the motherboard supports?
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Yep, I do believe so.

iLeopard said:
Yep, I do believe so.
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Well, did you even try the CPU gfx before RMAing the motherboard?
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Well, did you even try the CPU gfx before RMAing the motherboard?
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Before even installing the discrete graphics card I did try connecting my monitor straight to the mobo, with VGA, DVI, and HDMI but nothing ever worked and it was then when I decided I would try the graphics card to see if I could get legacy video support but nothing.

About CPU And Camera

ultra-pix 4mpx means lower quality better pic in dark?!
how is performance! coz its only 1.7 Ghz quad core and snapdragon 600!
and why didnt HTC use snapdragon 800! or tegra 4-4i is it only for tablets!? :silly:

kamranhaghighi said:
ultra-pix 4mpx means lower quality better pic in dark?!
how is performance! coz its only 1.7 Ghz quad core and snapdragon 600!
and why didnt HTC use snapdragon 800! or tegra 4-4i is it only for tablets!? :silly:
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The words 'lower' and 'better' are comparative words. Compared to what?
nothing takes pics in dark coz light is need for sensor make better pic.
performance is good.
Ask HTC.

kamranhaghighi said:
ultra-pix 4mpx means lower quality better pic in dark?!
how is performance! coz its only 1.7 Ghz quad core and snapdragon 600!
and why didnt HTC use snapdragon 800! or tegra 4-4i is it only for tablets!? :silly:
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Snapdragon 800 has is not out yet maybe Q4
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strip419 said:
Snapdragon 800 has is not out yet maybe Q4
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thanks omg i can't wait that mush almsot 6months!

kamranhaghighi said:
thanks omg i can't wait that mush almsot 6months!
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Omg what is wrong with you they announce new stuff all the time.
If you were like this with everything then you ether have a new phone every 5mins or never having a new phone out of fear it being old in 5mins.
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hmmm.... u right but can u tell me wich phone coz stuck between S-IV Htc one also S-IV got a 1.9 ghz CPU! Anyway i can also over cloack it to 1.9 coz it supports

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hmmm.... u right but can u tell me wich phone coz stuck between S-IV Htc one also S-IV got a 1.9 ghz CPU! Anyway i can also over cloack it to 1.9 coz it supports
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Personally I find HTC phones better than samsung phones. video audio, music volume and washed out camera indoors is major problems i had with S2/3/GN2 and very boring UI. Only reason I chose samsung phones was because of hardware and battery life but now HTC and Sony imo are there in terms of hardware and battery life aswell now, so for me samsung with their ugly boring UI is irrelevant now.

coz its only 1.7 Ghz quad core and snapdragon 600!
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Wat

ty im going for htc one and coz both are snapdragon 600 i can make my htc one 1.9ghz?

also smasung ui not boring:S htc one link bleed is to simple and boring (i had a htc sensation its freaking awesome also ui is freaking awesome better than my current note and it was faster, no problem , i sent my Note 2 times to guaranty) ! i just scared about the cpu and gpu

nvm searched web so im going to but it but can i overcloack to 1.9? coz its snapdragon 600 and support up to 1.9ghz else will buy s-IV

Camera shoots 30 or 60 fps (1080p)
I have one question. Is it true that HTC ONE is able record 1080p 60fps?? I don´t think so, but I have read that i can.
Thanks for true answers.

xvasek said:
I have one question. Is it true that HTC ONE is able record 1080p 60fps?? I don´t think so, but I have read that i can.
Thanks for true answers.
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Yes it is able. The camera is fantastic on it. I'm blown away when I go to bars and parties how good it is. I was highly suspicious that it was only 4MP at first, and nearly didn't get it, but it's been better than any phone camera I've ever used so far. It's even great for Youtube vlogging.

This topic shows how they sell millions of phones every year.

xvasek said:
I have one question. Is it true that HTC ONE is able record 1080p 60fps?? I don´t think so, but I have read that i can.
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No.
1080p (Full HD) = 30fps
720p (HD) = 60fps

The one isn't even out yet..
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
The one isn't even out yet..
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Wrong. UK has had it for 2 weeks now.
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