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Close Application and Switch trough Applications

I am aware of the Oxios Memory Program and the use off Task Manager to save memory but I have some questions.
1. Is there a way to really shutdown a program after Using it, without going to Task Manager or something like that? I tried the HangUp Button, Home Button, Go Back button etc but it's not really shutting down the program, and only a few program's has an Exit item build in the menu.
2. Is it possible to get a list of current running applications (like PPC phones have in the top right) or an other way to navigate trough currently running applications. Sometimes I'm using mail, a Game and Media Player together and then the only way to navigate between them is by using the home button and then go back trough the list of apps, though this is very limited.

To my knowledge there is nothing like this. A solution would be to remap a hardware button state to the task manager to more easily launch.

Yeah I've modified my homescreen with a small Launcher (just the Standard last opened Apps Launcher, nothing special though). This quickens everything a lot, but as you other users know is still not optimal.
Thanks for your thoughts Anyway.

I'd recommend you Smarttoolkit (free download here). It combines hibernation (like oxios) and superb task manager (and other features). I use version RC08, because RC09 doesn't always work properly for me...

First I thought STK was some sort of Tweak Utility, but I recently saw some screenshots of a flasy program and download -> installed that and I loved it, it only had some hang up issues but after downgrading to RC08 this was reduced to almost nothing.
Later on I noticed the program I was using now is the programm you recommended me, thanks after all.

JunkieXP said:
First I thought STK was some sort of Tweak Utility, but I recently saw some screenshots of a flasy program and download -> installed that and I loved it, it only had some hang up issues but after downgrading to RC08 this was reduced to almost nothing.
Later on I noticed the program I was using now is the programm you recommended me, thanks after all.
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You're welcome!

JunkieXP said:
First I thought STK was some sort of Tweak Utility, but I recently saw some screenshots of a flasy program and download -> installed that and I loved it, it only had some hang up issues but after downgrading to RC08 this was reduced to almost nothing.
Later on I noticed the program I was using now is the programm you recommended me, thanks after all.
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Another great program to run alongside STK is AppCloser http://wwwu.edu.uni-klu.ac.at/apitman/appcloser/index.php
Very easy to set up and you can add the apps you want to automatically close when you press home into a text pad.
Hope this helps.
I run on s620 but works on all Windows smartphones, just looking at the s730 thread due to thinking about getting one.

[Q] Apps kept coming back after autokill -> memory leak -> lag

Hi all,
1. I've got these applications (Smartone-Vodophone SV app, 5 days weather, google map, social hub and such) that would keep coming back, relaunching themselves even after I put them onto my task manager's autokill list. Seems like they would wait around for me to enable the wifi/3G connection and then launch themselves. I even installed other apps to disable autolaunch and they would still launch themselves in the background every now and then. I had to kill them every time I unlocked my screen and these "launching and killing" cycles eventually depleted my memory down to below 100MB, making the lag situation even worse. Does anyone know how I can stop them from launching, without having to uninstall these apps?
2. I haven't installed the lagfix and I understand that the fix has to do with reformatting the apps' partition with a faster file system to reduce the lag (probably by giving it faster I/O access to the program's binaries?) I'm still waiting for Froyo, which should be out in a couple of weeks in my country. Does anyone know if Froyo would take care of this file system problem? Even with the Froyo or one-click lag fix, it still would not solve the apps launching and memory leak problem, right?
3. I notice that after I've installed more apps, the lag situation got worse. I was playing some songs on the external SD cards and it choked once in a while. I made sure I killed all the other apps and that I still got 100+MB to run just this one song player app and yet it would still choke. This tells me that the lag has nothing to do with available memory. And the player app was stock that came with the phone so there shouldn't be any fragmentation issue (apps installed later might have?) that makes it run slow. And if its the bad file system, this app, running all by itself, should have all the I/O bandwidth to itself so the access to the app's binaries should not have any lag... and neither should the access to the songs on the external SD card. So what exactly is causing the lag then? I don't see how the lagfix would solve this problem either. I actually have read that the lags would come back after a period of usage even with the lagfix. Anyone got an insight to this problem? What exactly is causing the lag? and why installing more apps seem to make it worse? and would Froyo be able to fix all these problems?
Thanks a lot.

@boarder838
I think you really need to read a lot more about just how Android works as you seem to have some strange ideas about how it works.
To start with you need to realise that having 200mb or 100mb of free Ram makes zero difference to performance only when you have no free Ram is it a problem and even then the system will sort it out for you by closing the least used program. Free Ram is just wasted Ram as it's not doing anything and will not make your device respond or work faster using a Auto Task Killer is wasting your battery and slowing down your device not speeding it up and saving battery as you seem to think. As i have pointed out above stop obsessing over your free Ram amount as unless you have none its not a problem stop using a Task Killer and you will most probably see your device responds faster as its not constantly killing things and just leaves them open doing nothing in the back ground which doesn't use Ram or Battery so just leave them be.
Yes Froyo will bring many improvements to our devices but won't fix a problem that doesn't exist re memory leaks and apps launching that you seem to think you have. I don't know but some of those apps may be system apps that need to run all the time which is why they keep relaunching. As for a lag fix well that's what we are all hoping for but if not I'm pretty sure the great people of this forum will come up with an easy to apply fix to it.
I have absolutely no problem playing Music or even streaming it over Bluetooth no lag stutters or break ups at all although my Music is on the Internal SD card. Maybe you should look at the quality that you have encoded your Music in as that may be causing problem. maybe some of the apps you have installed are also causing a problem but its impossible to know as we all install different apps and have different set ups.
I don't know how much experience you have with Android devices or flashing Roms but if you read enough and understand it you have the possibility to flash custom Rom's and various tweaks and fixes to make your device how you want it. That's part of the beauty of Android but don't rush into anything you are not sure about as you can end up with an expensive brick so read things many times and make sure you understand step by step what you are doing if you are going to attempt any of these things.
If you look at my signature you will see i am running a Custom Rom that includes a lag fix and various other tweaks it also allowed me to remove some of the programs in the official Rom that i didn't want or need. For me my device runs nice and smooth and fast of course I'm looking forward to Froyo and all the improvements that will bring but I'm quite happy with my Galaxy S the way it is now. Oh and this is my second Android device and I've never used a Task Killer never mind an Auto Task Killer and have never seen an out of Ram message either.
Marc

exactly what he said ^

Hi Marc,
Thanks for spending time to read through my long post and reply to it. I probably didn't explain my problem clearly in my post.
There were a couple of reasons I wanted to kill/stop the apps from starting:
1. Even before I installed any of those apps killer, I noticed that the available memory kept going down after a couple days of usage and it went down to below 100M. I figured some of the apps would need 10's of MB to run so I thought I should at least keep 100MB around so that it wouldn't run out of memory and start swapping when I start those apps. I don't know enough about Android but I assume its just like linux or other OS, when it runs out of physical memory, it would start swapping and slow things down. Even after I started using task killer and killed all the other tasks, the memory level would still not recover. That seems to point to a memory leak problem but using "Memory Booster" to do garbage collection seems to help. Still, it would be nice to be able to stop them from launching in the first place. <-- my first question.
2. I do not want any jobs/processes/apps that I don't need to run in the background to drain my battery. I don't think I can say for sure that those apps are all just idling and not using much CPU/battery. There are quite a few of them so if each of them use some CPU time/battery, it will add up eventually. Note that these are not system processes (or daemons as in unix's init.d). They are crappy apps from the cellular provider so I'm pretty sure they don't have to be running (they're probably just collecting my personal data or smth). I just thought there would be a way to stop them from launching without uninstalling them.
Thanks for answering my question regarding Froyo. If they would do the filesystem lagfix then I'll just wait for that update.
As for the music stuttering problem, my songs are on the external SD card but my old Nokia E85 phone has no problem playing with those songs on the same SD card. As I have pointed out in my last question, I was only running one app and with plenty of memory so it had nothing to do with available memory. I also suggested that however bad the filesystem was, the I/O bandwidth should still be enough to run this one music player app (access the program binary/libraries?) and to retrieve data from external SD card to play the music smoothly. So applying the lagfix probably won't help this problem though I still haven't tried the lagfix. Now I'm thinking that one of the task killer might be killing some system processes which were needed by the music player. I probably should uninstall all these task killers and see if it would help.
I have gotten the phone for only a couple of weeks so I haven't gotten around to try flashing different roms or rooting my phone. There's so much info scattered around on the web and I can't seem to find a source that really has the authority or complete information. I'll see if I have time later to look into all the tweaks and such but for now its just a phone to me and I just want it to run smoothly without having to spend too much effort to tune it.
Don't get me wrong. I still love the flexibility and customization opportunities provided by the Android platform and I just love to show off my "Beautiful Weather Widget", "Live Aquarium Wall Paper" and my cool 3D scrolling "Launcher Pro" to my iphone4 buddies and make them drool.
Thanks for you comment and let's hope Froyo will bring us a smooth running and stable platform.
Dogmann said:
@boarder838
I think you really need to read a lot more about just how Android works as you seem to have some strange ideas about how it works.
To start with you need to realise that having 200mb or 100mb of free Ram makes zero difference to performance only when you have no free Ram is it a problem and even then the system will sort it out for you by closing the least used program. Free Ram is just wasted Ram as it's not doing anything and will not make your device respond or work faster using a Auto Task Killer is wasting your battery and slowing down your device not speeding it up and saving battery as you seem to think. As i have pointed out above stop obsessing over your free Ram amount as unless you have none its not a problem stop using a Task Killer and you will most probably see your device responds faster as its not constantly killing things and just leaves them open doing nothing in the back ground which doesn't use Ram or Battery so just leave them be.
Yes Froyo will bring many improvements to our devices but won't fix a problem that doesn't exist re memory leaks and apps launching that you seem to think you have. I don't know but some of those apps may be system apps that need to run all the time which is why they keep relaunching. As for a lag fix well that's what we are all hoping for but if not I'm pretty sure the great people of this forum will come up with an easy to apply fix to it.
I have absolutely no problem playing Music or even streaming it over Bluetooth no lag stutters or break ups at all although my Music is on the Internal SD card. Maybe you should look at the quality that you have encoded your Music in as that may be causing problem. maybe some of the apps you have installed are also causing a problem but its impossible to know as we all install different apps and have different set ups.
I don't know how much experience you have with Android devices or flashing Roms but if you read enough and understand it you have the possibility to flash custom Rom's and various tweaks and fixes to make your device how you want it. That's part of the beauty of Android but don't rush into anything you are not sure about as you can end up with an expensive brick so read things many times and make sure you understand step by step what you are doing if you are going to attempt any of these things.
If you look at my signature you will see i am running a Custom Rom that includes a lag fix and various other tweaks it also allowed me to remove some of the programs in the official Rom that i didn't want or need. For me my device runs nice and smooth and fast of course I'm looking forward to Froyo and all the improvements that will bring but I'm quite happy with my Galaxy S the way it is now. Oh and this is my second Android device and I've never used a Task Killer never mind an Auto Task Killer and have never seen an out of Ram message either.
Marc
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Oh I found the problem with stuttering music. It was the "beautiful weather widget"! I tried removing all the task killers and aquarium etc and it still wouldn't work. As soon as I removed the weather widget there was no problem with music playback anymore. Anyone has the same problem that pretty weather widget?? I've already set the refresh period to every 3 hours but it still wouldn't help?!

[Q] About MIUI

Hi there XDA-Developers,
I'm new here
But, I gotta little question about MIUI on Galaxy S.
Because I had MIUI Mintberry on my SGS, and after clean install it was very fast. But when I installed a couple of apps I had often lags. Is there a way to speed MIUI up a bit? Because I really like MIUI...
Thnx,
(And if I posted in the wrong section, what is very unlikely to me, please correct me!! Also if my question already is been answered in another thread...)

some apps like facebook used lots a resource
for exemple facebook has a internal process to check new message
lots of applications starts at android boot and eat memory
so you have less free memory and sometimes some lags appears

Yeah, I know that.I don't even use Facebook

Well there's an app called Autostarts in the Market. It's paid though. Anyway. With it you can set what programs start at boot and thus more RAM can be used for everything else.

Dropping performance

After flashing a rom onto my LG P990 it works flawlessly-everything is nuttery smooth, fast and reliable but after some uptime and few days of using it suddenly starts to lag. It really pisses me off since P990 is quite powerfull when it comes to specs but my friends Galaxy S somehow maintains it's performance.
So the question is how to make sure that my phone will not reduce it's performance so drastically over time?
I'm runnig latest Temasek's KANG and ETaNa's latest beta kernel with 1,4GHz OC.

Do you have alot of apps installed?
Try to see how much RAM usage you have on boot and after it starts to drop performance.

Yeah I read somewhere that there is a memory leak problem with the o2x...restart your phone once in 3 days..things should be fine

Rebooting doesn't help. If it did I would assume that it's simply because an app/apps is causing the drop and then I would try to find it. I do have a lot of apps on my phone but most of them shouldn't be running by themselves in the backgroud (mostly games and such).

I have same problem (on ICS ROMs). After flash, everything is fast, after few days....I have to wait for call for 30 sec....horrible...

I have noticed that problem witch made me a flashaholic .. you could begin with deleting facebook app, messenger and google plus (drainers) then dl rom manager and set in on hard gaming , worked ok for me
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app

Also I have a major USB issue. Almost always after turning off storage mode the phone just hangs and I have to remove the battery to restart it. Sometimes it even reboots by itself while transfering files.

Memory leak... If this problem annoys you flash a stock froyo rom or cm based rom..

Have been using CM7 for probably 12 months, but the performance in the last few weeks seems to have got much worse....

i think it could be a baseband issue...I am ...during the verification of the existing problem ...

Since rebooting and installing the tweakaio.zip with lagfree patch for my kernel everything seems better. Not freshly-flashed good but much better.

I don't have any problems with my O2X. It runs buttery-smooth even after two weeks without rebooting. However, the internal IO does get pretty slow after a while. It's nothing too dramatic though.
Heres my recommendation;
Latest Temasek ROM & Kernel
Use the built-in ramhack (this really helps alot!)
Using TitaniumBackup, freeze un-needed apps or uninstall them (be careful with this, make backups. This is mainly meant for system apps that you don't need, i.e. Car Home so they won't fill up your RAM unnecessarily)
Using Autorun Manager just prevent most apps from auto-starting themselves.
Optional; let a task manager kill apps for you periodically. I always read that it's not good to use task managers but I never seem to have any problems with them. I've got 200MB RAM free all the time, even after several days of usage. To prevent killing specific apps just add them to the ignore list of your task manager.
You could also use the lagfree + dalvik cache fix by tonyp and adjust the LMK values.
This setup is working perfectly fine for me, just try it out yourself.
Edit: I also have to note that I don't have many apps installed. Just the things that I really need such as AlarmDroid, the XDA Premium App (!), PimpMyCpu, etc.

xExabyte said:
I don't have any problems with my O2X. It runs buttery-smooth even after two weeks without rebooting. However, the internal IO does get pretty slow after a while. It's nothing too dramatic though.
Heres my recommendation;
Latest Temasek ROM & Kernel
Use the built-in ramhack (this really helps alot!)
Using TitaniumBackup, freeze un-needed apps or uninstall them (be careful with this, make backups. This is mainly meant for system apps that you don't need, i.e. Car Home so they won't fill up your RAM unnecessarily)
Using Autorun Manager just prevent most apps from auto-starting themselves.
Optional; let a task manager kill apps for you periodically. I always read that it's not good to use task managers but I never seem to have any problems with them. I've got 200MB RAM free all the time, even after several days of usage. To prevent killing specific apps just add them to the ignore list of your task manager.
You could also use the lagfree + dalvik cache fix by tonyp and adjust the LMK values.
This setup is working perfectly fine for me, just try it out yourself.
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good call.
lately ive been using etana kernel with the oall mighty temaseks rom, but the music for eg gets clipped when i open other apps start wifi/bt while playing

xilw3r said:
good call.
lately ive been using etana kernel with the oall mighty temaseks rom, but the music for eg gets clipped when i open other apps start wifi/bt while playing
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I never listen to music on my phone so I can't help you out with that. Try a different kernel?

[Q] What Apps Can I Get Shot Of Or Freeze?

Hi - I have had a quick search on here but found nothing specific to the HD+. Is there a list of apps that I can get rid of or freeze that won't damage the operation of my HD+. Currently running 10.1. I never use any of the google stuff on it like books etc but was wondering are these a staple part of the OS?
Or is there another way to increase RAM? Mine is hanging about 400 to 600 - would frezzing some of the non-essentials bring this down?
Thanks in advance.

I do not think a tablet (or phone) would function any differently then a PC in principal.
You can have hundreds of programs installed, but the only time they would effect the RAM is if they are running.
Ive look into un-installing some apps (with stock OS and modded CM OS) and seen warnings and disclaimers.
I do not have the time right now (in my personal life) to be messing around with this and looking for the daisy chain of programs which will be effected when one program is un-installed, so i just left the apps installed.
But i did install an 'app killer' (sorry i forget which one) and used that to kill any running programs that i choose to and nothing bad happened and it did recover some RAM.
The easy way out seams to install a memory cleaner app and run it when ever you see fit.
A list of programs that can not be un-installed with the reason why would be nice.
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