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[Q] Car hands free - problems

Hi guys,
I am having problems with car BlueTooth hands free and Samsung Galaxy S:
With Eclair 2.1 it was working flawlesly, connected automaticlay after paired, I could make phonecals, receive phonecals, no quality issue, phonebook worked fine etc... The only problem was that once I did not swithced the BT on my SGS before starting to drive, for some security reasons the car was not searching for phones while driving, so I had to turn the BT in car off and on again and then it connected well. But overal problem free...
With latest 2.2 Froyo (i9000xfjp7) and also previous Froyo distributions (i tried JPA if I remember correctly), the phone can be paired, it connects to the car but after one phonecall it looses connection and works no more. The strange thing is, the BT icon on the phone shows brackets (like when connected) and also the car shows the phone is still connected. But phonecalls cannot be made via car HF and also cannot be received through it. Only by manualy accepting or dialing on the phone. And naturally the sound goes only via the phone, no HF.
The strange thing is, when I turn off the car and leave it, the phone says it is still connected to it, which is impossible.
Any ideas?
Thank you!

czechmate said:
Hi guys,
I am having problems with car BlueTooth hands free and Samsung Galaxy S:
With Eclair 2.1 it was working flawlesly, connected automaticlay after paired, I could make phonecals, receive phonecals, no quality issue, phonebook worked fine etc... The only problem was that once I did not swithced the BT on my SGS before starting to drive, for some security reasons the car was not searching for phones while driving, so I had to turn the BT in car off and on again and then it connected well. But overal problem free...
With latest 2.2 Froyo (i9000xfjp7) and also previous Froyo distributions (i tried JPA if I remember correctly), the phone can be paired, it connects to the car but after one phonecall it looses connection and works no more. The strange thing is, the BT icon on the phone shows brackets (like when connected) and also the car shows the phone is still connected. But phonecalls cannot be made via car HF and also cannot be received through it. Only by manualy accepting or dialing on the phone. And naturally the sound goes only via the phone, no HF.
The strange thing is, when I turn off the car and leave it, the phone says it is still connected to it, which is impossible.
Any ideas?
Thank you!
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Had exactly same issue I changed to Doc Rom JP8, for last 3-4 days didn't face any issue.

Monu123 said:
Had exactly same issue I changed to Doc Rom JP8, for last 3-4 days didn't face any issue.
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That is weird... When I switch back to Eclair, it works OK, back to Froyo, no HF after one phonecall...
I dont know how to work with ROMs, I managed to find out how to flash firmwares, I even handled many problems with Odin and its moods, incomplete flashes, etc... But I dont know how to use these custom ROMs...
Anyway, i would appreciate if someone told me how to resolve it without custom ROMs, as I plan to use offical Froyo when it becomes available, but with this issue, it is useless for me, as I travel a lot...

No one else?

I'm having a related problem.
I'm getting music stream cut outs (1 sec max) when streaming bluetooth to caraudio WHILE wifi on.
If i disable wifi, bluetoothaudio works fine. I know they share range bt/wifi, but this is unacceptable. They should negotiate. Everytime wifi scans, i get cutouts. Unusable. Only workaround is disabling wifi (and thats annoying because i have to be constantly activating/disabling it everytime i enter somewhere with wifi etc.
Using Docrom xxjpo v8 with voodoo.
Anyone has some software fix that makes wifi behave better when bluetooth musictream on?

[Q] bluetooth with car stereo problems, you guessed it

Okay, so lots of people have problems with their bluetooth. I am too. I have a JVC KW-XR810 car stereo and the bluetooth keeps shutting down on one or the other. My questions are:
Does anyone else have this stereo and problem? If so, whats the situation?
Is there a ROM that works flawlessly (or close to) with the bluetooth?
Its odd though, that my headset works perfectly and I didn't have many problems with another stereo I've used. Makes me wonder if its the stereo or the phone. Still, many others have bluetooth problems with this phone...
Thanks for any responses.
Stock Froyo
Rooted
One click lag fix

My last 3 phones (including this one) have all worked flawlessly with my Sony MEX-BT3700 head unit. Phone calls, BT dialing, streaming music, all work perfectly.

Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.

Must be a problem with Stock Froyo. Glad I'm not using it.

I've had this issue with certain roms I was running. I have a Kenwood KDC-X993. So far on CM7 it stayed connected.
Sent from my SGH-I897

i have the same (or similar) problem with my OEM headunit on a VW Golf. BT randomly disconnects but my music (pandora) still plays through the BT stereo, unless I stop it. Then its completely disconnected and I'll have to reconnect the phone to the car.
annoying but I just deal with it.

I'm running Paragon 6 and have a Dual head unit. I haven't had any disconnect issues, my problem is the crappy Pandora app.

mdaudioguy said:
Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.
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Same here, I have a Parrot mki system in my car, but I found a workaround that I hope works for you too:
Unpair with the device, and when you re-pair it, when it asks you to synchronize contacts, do not let it. It will bug you every time it connects, but just ignore the requests.
I haven't had a single disconnect since doing this weeks ago.

I've read about the contacts request from other users but it doesn't happen with mine. Another thing, when I lose the connection and I turn off bt one the phone out shuts off. Completely. Pushing the power button does nothing. Holding the volume up and power buttons together for a few seconds seems to restart it but theres no animation. Just the lock screen, media scanner, etc. Maybe its restarting on its own and the button pushing has nothing to do with it. Also, I listened to my bt headset for hours last night with no probs at alI. Idk. Is bt different for head units? I thought it all used the same protocals.
So it seems that its not my head unit, but the phone. Are there any good solutions for us?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

My head unit never asks to download contacts. Could it be that some do because they store that info in order to identify and announce incoming calls? That would mean there's more going on than just a simple BT connection.

Yeah. One post I read said something about it using a data connection the hu for contacts. I have no idea what he was talking about though.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
Sent from my SGH-I897

nahrah said:
My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
Sent from my SGH-I897
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The only purpose I can see for this is if the head unit has an integrated nav system. That would allow you to bring up a contact as a nav target independent of the phone.

Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly. There have been two replies saying that cm7 and paragon 6 have stable bt connections with head units. I read in another post that axura works as well. This is so frustrating that I'm just about willng to learn how to flash this thing.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

NvigR8 said:
Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly.
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We have? My first post says I have zero issues with this on my head unit with my phone on Eclair, Froyo and now Andromeda. If it is a phone issue mine is not suffering from it. Sounds more like it has something to do with head units that store contact data. Mine apparently doesn't.

Hmmm.
Yet in your second post you posited that it must be a Froyo issue.
Regardless of whether it is the phone or OS, a lot of Captivate owners seem to have bt issues of one kind or another with various devices. Maybe this is just a bt issue in general that everyone deals with (not just Captivate owners) and I'm just being sensitive because I haven't had much bt exposure.
Any help is appreciated here. I'm just looking for suggestions on what to do short of buying a new phone or head unit. It would be great if other users experiencing this problem would benefit from the discussion as well.
So far it appears that flashing a different ROM may be a solution but which one? Is there any way to change only the bt stack?

Sorry if that sounded short, but I'm REALLY frustrated with this.
My hu will store contacts as most do these days, but it doesn't ask for them. I don't think the problem is related to the contacts. I guess its just a random incompatibility thing.

I said it "might" be a problem with stock Froyo. I didn't see it the 3 days I was running it and my current ROM is Froyo-based and working without issue. The only other variable I can see is that others posting problems have reported having to deny access to contacts, something my head unit never asks for, in order to get it to work. That would appear to indicate the difference is in the head units and not the phones, but unless I could connect to one of these other head units to verify, I'm only guessing. Sorry.

i notice that if I toggle the bluetooth on my phone right before connecting it to my car, it works flawlessly

Installed a Kenwood X994 and had all kinds of issues with BT. Worked for awhile but would never auto connect. Only vehicle and area where I had BT issues. I realized it was due to the downloading of contacts at every connect. sometimes it would download than immediately disconnect. frustrating. Was on serendipity, Tried a native Cappy ROM, Cognition and now Phoenix..
The unit has the Parrot system in it so it should be ok. Finally decided to update the Firmware on the HU. So far so good. I like the contact download so I don't need to use the phone at all to make a call. Receiving calls is no problem.
Will test further tomorrow.
BTW I have a BT Garmin mounted in the truck and used it before getting the head unit. no problems connecting. The only issue with that was a delay between pressing the call button and the call being made. Hanging up was an issue as well.

[Q] Developers and BT

Which features of a ROM Kernel or Modem have the most influence on BT function. I recently purchased a Kenwood X994 for the car and the Captivate seems to have to be "connected" every time. Sometimes it loads the phone book, other times not. I have never been asked for a PIN code when pairing. Even after flashing a new ROM and reinitialization the Kenwood. It does work but even with th Gamin BT the connections were automatic.
I think the Developers might have an idea what influences the BT stack and if any ROM/Kernel/Modem is better in that regard.
If this post is in the wrong area please move it.

bump - I have the same concerns. Can't seem to find consistent bluetooth connection that was better than stock with lots of trying different roms with different modems and am totally confused on what directly affects the bluetooth connection

tbong777 said:
Which features of a ROM Kernel or Modem have the most influence on BT function. I recently purchased a Kenwood X994 for the car and the Captivate seems to have to be "connected" every time. Sometimes it loads the phone book, other times not. I have never been asked for a PIN code when pairing. Even after flashing a new ROM and reinitialization the Kenwood. It does work but even with th Gamin BT the connections were automatic.
I think the Developers might have an idea what influences the BT stack and if any ROM/Kernel/Modem is better in that regard.
If this post is in the wrong area please move it.
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I am not trying to sell my ROM to you as I don't and am not here to make any money but I have not found a device that Phoenix Ultimate can not connect to. Just a thought for you.

Unless your making your own kernel thats special , their is some devices that it will have trouble connecting to, specifically certain car Bluetooth sets. this was a problem with every kernel I tried, and other users reported this also. I don't think it has anything to do at all with the Rom anyway,(it could, I didnt look into it too much), it think its an issue with kernels built from I9000 source.

adamholden85 said:
I am not trying to sell my ROM to you as I don't and am not here to make any money but I have not found a device that Phoenix Ultimate can not connect to. Just a thought for you.
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Adam I have used (and am currenty trying out Phoenix Ultimate) and really find you ROMS useful, The BT works fine but the issue is I have to "connect" the phone even though it has been paired
The Kenwood X994 uses Parrot BT system which is supposed to be the best (which is why I chose the Kenwood LOL), I am just wondering why the device cannot auto connect when I get in the car as it did with the Garmin and the Honda. IS there a task I can set up using task manager?
Maybe its the Kenwood. But searches in that arena show no ill effect except with the Captivate and some Droids. IPhone is flawlwess with that system (wouldn't you know it) as are HTC phones it appears. I really hate having to select a phone based on BT in the car.

di11igaf said:
Unless your making your own kernel thats special , their is some devices that it will have trouble connecting to, specifically certain car Bluetooth sets. this was a problem with every kernel I tried, and other users reported this also. I don't think it has anything to do at all with the Rom anyway,(it could, I didnt look into it too much), it think its an issue with kernels built from I9000 source.
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Which I thought as well so I flashed Cognition 4.2 and had the same issue...and decided to try Phoenix (GPS was terrible on Cog) Well I guess until I get another phone brand I will have to just make sure I connect the already paired devices. Although iPhone doesn't interest me...maybe HTC,

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[Q] Bluetooth audio streaming problems

I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks

paulpenny said:
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks
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I stream via bt to my car stereo without any issues all the time. What is the audio bitrate you are streaming?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA Premium App

I stream mainly podcasts. The bit rate will be whatever the default is.
Since I first posted I have had fewer problems with stuttering. I did uninstall poweramp. That may or may not have any bearing on things.
I now find that auto connection is a bit flaky. Sometimes it will connect, other times I have to do it manually.
Overall not the best experience but very nice when it works.

paulpenny said:
I stream mainly podcasts. The bit rate will be whatever the default is.
Since I first posted I have had fewer problems with stuttering. I did uninstall poweramp. That may or may not have any bearing on things.
I now find that auto connection is a bit flaky. Sometimes it will connect, other times I have to do it manually.
Overall not the best experience but very nice when it works.
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I have no problems streaming audio from my Nexus S to my car's audio deck (Pioneer P7000BT) and I play anything from my music apps (pandora, slacker, etc..) to my songs in my mp3 library. If you aren't on a custom rom, perhaps trying CM7 and a good kernel could help you narrow down your problem.
My phone's setup is listed below in my sig.

I have streaming from my nexus s to kenwood kdc-x994 without any problems

paulpenny said:
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks
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Bump!!!
Brand new Nexus S owner with the EXACT same problem, it's driving me nuts.
Unless I do a reboot on the phone or sometimes just a manual disable & re-enable on the bluetooth, it will keep having 1-2 second audio drops right in the middle of playback. I have a Kenwood KDC-BT838U deck. The bluetooth connection between the deck and phone never breaks. It never disconnects or disassociates in any form as far as I can tell. It's clearly a problem with my Nexus S only because I also have an iPhone 4 and it works flawlessly all the time (just not unlimited data on that phone!)
It's really annoying that others in this thread say they don't have the issue at all. I have streamed off Youtube HD and radio stations via TuneIn Radio.
It's super annoying considering I got the unlimited data package for exactly this reason.
It's only been 4 days of having the phone so maybe I'll go try and exchange tomorrow.
Just my luck

paulpenny said:
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks
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Try disabling wifi while you streaming through bluetooth. Wifi radio can interfere with some headunits.

slvr00gt said:
Try disabling wifi while you streaming through bluetooth. Wifi radio can interfere with some headunits.
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First thing I tried!
I've moved on to cm7.0.2 and it is still a bit flaky, although not as bad as it was.
There doesn't seem to be any pattern. Sometimes it's fine other times it's not.

Interesting, I have had a Kenwood KDC-BT945U for sometime now and have used it with many different phones. My Nexus One had a very flaky connection to it, my HTC G2 connected fine but would give me audio drop outs randomly every few minutes which was SO ANNOYING, Iphone work just fine and my Nexus S works without issue also. I had assumed it was just an issue with HTC phones. Are you currently running a custom ROM? The only time I was ever able to get my Nexus One working the way it should was to use a Sense Rom.

I upgraded to CM7 and it's as bad as ever, didn't seem to help at all.
I also went through a full exchange at the store, and the brand new one straight out of the plastic did the same thing. Must be the phone itself is all I can think of.
All I have left to try is a new kernel, I can't figure out which kernel to update to if I'm using the Mobilicity AWS Nexus S

If you are having problems with bluetooth streaming and have a task killer installed... Uninstall it...
Task killers are problem makers...
Android has a built in task killer
Good news: I just saved 500 hundred bucks on a new phone by switching to XxXViRuSXxX
(So easy, a noobie can do it)

There is still no solution to this problem. I'm assuming nobody else here is using their Nexus S for bluetooth audio streaming often?
It has persisted through 2 exchanges which leads me to believe theres a problem with the hardware itself or something.
Rooted, custom kernels, nothing fixes it.
This phone is such a piece of junk, I'm hating it more and more every day

duckdown said:
There is still no solution to this problem. I'm assuming nobody else here is using their Nexus S for bluetooth audio streaming often?
It has persisted through 2 exchanges which leads me to believe theres a problem with the hardware itself or something.
Rooted, custom kernels, nothing fixes it.
This phone is such a piece of junk, I'm hating it more and more every day
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I use my Nexus S every day to stream music over BT/A2DP to my car stereo (Kenwood Excelon KDC-X994) and it works without any issues, and it always has since I got it. I've rooted it and am using a custom kernel and radio, but left the OS at stock 2.3.4. But it also worked fine with my head unit right out of the box before I made any changes to it.
I'm sorry I don't have any suggestions or solutions for you. In my own experiences it seems like certain BT chipsets just don't work well with certain pieces of BT hardware, so maybe there's just "bad blood" (so to speak) between the BT chipset in the Nexus S and your BT car hardware...?
Sorry I don't have any ideas to offer to try and help.

I also stream music over Bluetooth, the blackberry gateway device works perfectly for me, but it requires an AUX port
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

What app are you using? I saw you mentioned podcasts and I have seen this problem on my EVO with google listen if i initiate play from the head unit to continue listening. I saw this on stock and CM7. However I have not been able to replicate it as of late. have you tried a differnt program or even just restarting BT? That is what fixed it for me back then.
Hope that helps

To the Gentlemen having problems with Bluetooth streaming. I hate asking but have you tried a different device as the bluetooth receiver if possible? A lot of the users replying are using pretty nice head units and in my experience with my Golf ive had no problems. well thats lie.. i have issues with the turn by turn navigation audio not working. It cuts the music (as it should) but the navigation audio is either non existent or extremely quiet (yes ive checked the navigation volume on the device).
But yeah long story short just wondering what other bluetooth receivers you have tried. Good luck.

Kurupt1 said:
I also stream music over Bluetooth, the blackberry gateway device works perfectly for me, but it requires an AUX port
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App
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I have the blackberry little gateway as well. When it connects it's great (no stuttering etc), but my phone won't always connect to it when I get in my car. Sometimes turning BT on/off will then get it to connect, but it's random. The sure-fire way to get it to connect is rebooting the phone. Not sure why that is, but very annoying. Does your NS connect to your blackberry gateway every time without fail?

mapin0518 said:
I have the blackberry little gateway as well. When it connects it's great (no stuttering etc), but my phone won't always connect to it when I get in my car. Sometimes turning BT on/off will then get it to connect, but it's random. The sure-fire way to get it to connect is rebooting the phone. Not sure why that is, but very annoying. Does your NS connect to your blackberry gateway every time without fail?
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No I have the same problem. Only downside to it.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

Kurupt1 said:
No I have the same problem. Only downside to it.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App
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Ah that's a relief to hear actually ! I wonder if it's specific to the blackberry gateway, and some other brand A2DP receiver would not have the problem...

Do you know of any others like it? I would be willing to try, gets pretty annoying.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

[Q] Bluetooth Connection Issue (Redux)

Hey All,
I've done a quick and dirty search for this problem, but I haven't found anything that's exactly the same.
I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
I have done the unpair/re-pair thing a couple of times, but nothing changes.
I had an HTC phone before this, and it'd reconnect automagically to my cars BT server, so I suspect it's nothing to do with the car's BT radio. I really miss that...
Thanks for any suggestions anyone might have in how to remedy this. Fwiw, I'm willing to go through a diagnostic procedure if someone would clue me in to just how to do that.
cheers,
john

I've had issues with the bluetooth and pairing. When I was on 4.2.2 (I think..) it wouldn't connect automatically at all, and I used an app to connect for me. I have a Chevrolet Cobalt and it wouldn't connect to my built in bluetooth for calls or a small bluetooth dongle that I use for playing music through the AUX input on the stock radio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect&hl=en
Once I was on 4.4.2 it seemed to work much better. I have no real issues now on 4.4.4. The only time I notice it not really working right is when I try to connect to the bluetooth speaker in our bathroom at home. If I turn the speaker on, it almost always connects to my girlfriends phone nearly instantly, even though I open the bluetooth menu and tap the paired device to manually initiate right when I turn on the speaker. It usually takes me a few tries to get mine to connect before hers, or I ask her to shut her bluetooth off for a moment while I connect. She uses the speaker every day because she leaves for work after me, so it only happens to me 1-2 times per month on the off chance that I want to listen to music or a baseball game in the shower, so it never really bothered me much.
I think the bluetooth radio in this phone could be better.. I never had any similar issues with my Droid X or Moto Razr Maxx so I'm not sure what the deal is...
Edit: forgot to mention I also have an XT1060, but not dev edition. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted, but using the official 4.4.4 VZW rom with Xposed.

I have never had any issues pairing Bluetooth - on either my car or moto 360 watch (even simultaneously).
However, I have noticed that the Bluetooth connects much quicker on custom ROMs when compared to stock.
I think tour connection issue may be a setting or rogue app related.
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Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john

jrredho said:
Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
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You may need to delete the profile for the Bluetooth pairing in your car. Could be a conflict there.
Otherwise, try looking at your Bluetooth settings on the phone.
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I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.

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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Guys, thanks for staying with me on this. One thing I've definitely learned is that the bluetooth thing is something I'm pretty ignorant on. I can see that I'm going to have to study it a bit before too long. Gad, that HTC spoiled me rotten---at least in that way.
I haven't tried the phone with any other BT devices. This is mostly because I don't own but two, the car and a travel speaker, and I haven't had the speaker out of its case since I scored the phone six or eight weeks ago. Also, I did some housecleaning, so I have only a small fraction, maybe 20%, of the same apps on the MotoX that I had on the HTC. I have no apps on the MotoX that I didn't have on the latter.
As for some of the car-related suggestions, it's a 2015 Subaru Forester Premium 2.5i, which is really only level up from the base model of that line. I can't find that there is a bluetooth profile setting in the car that I can change; I think that it's too basic. The relevant user manual simply states the following:
Media format
Bluetooth audio devices cannot be
connected if they are not compatible with
the following Bluetooth® profiles.
. A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution
Profile)
. AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control
Profile)
I don't even know what either of those mean!
Anyway, what I did do is go to the phone settings, and uncheck the Media box that shows up once the car's BT server is detected. Then I try to connect with the Phone box checked. It'll still fail to connect several times, but (a) it doesn't take as long to fail to connect, (b) it doesn't take as many tries (it seems) to make the connection, and (c) when it fails, it fails totally, so I don't have to disconnect from 'Media-only Connected (No Phone)' connection. That makes it easier I suppose. Then once the connection is established, it's a simple matter to go back to settings, and check the Media box. That add-on connection happens pretty quickly, but the process is still a little overwrought, imo.
Of course, KidJoe, up until you mentioned a Headset Profile, I didn't know one existed. But when I try to play music on my phone using PowerAmp, well, the app doesn't hook up to the BT anyway. That's a key difference between the HTC and the MotoX. In PowerAmp, I have "Play over Bluetooth on Detection" selected. The headset isn't being detected at all. So maybe that goes some distance to explaining what I'm encountering.
Again thanks to both of guys for hanging in there with me! I'll keep trudging "onward through the fog," as it were...
cheers,
john

A2DP and AVRC are used for Bluetooth Stereo audio streaming (like playing Pandora on your phone via your car stereo). Not phone calls.
For phone calls, usually a Headset or Handsfree profiles are used, and sometimes BT Phone Book Access (so you can see your phone's contact names/numbers on the car's screen).
I've run into compatibility issues between some phones and some Headset/Handfree devices (mostly cars, but a few bluetooth headsets too). Often times when this happens, you're stuck. Each side will blame the other (i.e. Moto will blame the Subaru car stereo, and Subaru will blame the phone).
I have had issues re-connecting to my car (a 2011 Saab 9-4x with Bose/Nav), IF I had my Moto S11 Flex HD headset connected to my Moto X before I got in the car (even if the S11 was powered off/disconnected from the X before I started the car). Usually toggling the X's bluetooth off/on, and sometimes worst case rebooting the phone, has always fixed it.. Another time I had troubles connecting to my Saab's car kit was when my wife was using her phone to stream audio. The next time I got in the car, I had to manually connect my phone. The car always tries to connect to the the last phone used, so it was looking for my wifes and it took a while before it timed out. When it did time out, it didn't look for mine.
Since you have a 2015 Subaru, I would consider visiting your car dealer, ask them to help with pairing the phone properly, and making sure its working right. See what they have to say.

My bluetooth in my car stopped pairing the other day, and it turns out it was an app that updated and requested permissions related to bluetooth. I didn't notice them because it's an app I trust so I accepted the new permissions without really looking at it.
I used App Settings (Xposed module) to disable the permissions and my bluetooth works fine again.
I could still pair with things if I went to the bluetooth paired device list and manually tapped on the device I wanted to connect with, but it would not pair automatically (like when I got in my car). Once I disabled that permission, it started working again without issue.
May be worth a look through your installed apps to see if anything has access to bluetooth and may be interfering.

Hey All,
Thanks again for the continued help!
It's true, I didn't do any research on app interference before I posted this thread topic, but since a couple of you have brought it up, I decided to do a little research. I installed a permissions app, and took a look at the permissions that allows an app to automatically seek out, and pair with, Bluetooth servers. I have to admit, I got some surprises there. (Who would've thought that Beautiful Widgets needed that permission; it is now gone.)
Anyway, most of the remaining apps are either system/Moto-related, or ones I would really like to keep. I'll report back on what I learn. If there are other permissions that I need to reference besides the two pairing-connecting to Bluetooth ones please let me know...
cheers,
john