To get the gs3 or not to get the gs3? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Lately I've been wondering, as ics roms continue to improve for the galaxy s, whether I'm going to get the gs3 after all. I was pretty decided, but now I'm in doubt. Seeing how that cm9 project aims to bring the gs3 features like putting the phone next to your ear to call a contact automatically, to our phones, there's really less and less reason for me to switch. Of course a led would be nice, and the increased performance, but I'm starting to wonder if its really worth it.
Anybody else who share these thoughts?
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GSIII is way too OP . Maybe in two years, you can really need the CPU. Sammy's already putting useless features into it to make the CPU a bit busy. Nobody needs that phone. I'd stay here.

SGS still a good smartphone, at least in my opinion, and development teams are doing a good job with the ICS roms
The community is also great, one of the best

I was thinking the same. Especially as A15 based processors and 2gb ram are round the corner. GS3 isn't as big of an improvement over the GS2 as I hoped.
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I will buy SGS3 for sure
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I used my friend's SGS3 for a day. Obvious features like LCD, OS and speed caught my attention. That apart, I'm happy with my i9000. Will wait for my i9000 to break.

vinu_h said:
I used my friend's SGS3 for a day. Obvious features like LCD, OS and speed caught my attention. That apart, I'm happy with my i9000. Will wait for my i9000 to break.
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Lol! "A friend's SGS3"?? And LCD, seriously?? Its an Amoled display.

I was disappointed with Galaxy S3...going to stay with my galaxy S

Vertron said:
I was thinking the same. Especially as A15 based processors and 2gb ram are round the corner. GS3 isn't as big of an improvement over the GS2 as I hoped.
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yeah....I was hoping for something better, S3 design is OK but not too impressive, I would say S2 was better looking.....but S4 is definitely going to take another 1.5-2 years for sure

I might even go for the gs2 if the right offer comes up. I really want a torch..
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SGS has a great community. If I could guarantee that SGS3 had even half the community that SGS has, I'd say switch.

Antyman said:
SGS has a great community. If I could guarantee that SGS3 had even half the community that SGS has, I'd say switch.
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I agree with that. Obviously it's only a question of time before the dev community emerges for the gs3, but this is certainly an awesome community for the gs1!
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adytum said:
I might even go for the gs2 if the right offer comes up. I really want a torch..
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torch? go to the hardware store... buy a torch there its only 5 bucks!.

Galaxy S III is too expensive and you can do the same with an i9000 than with a i9300. I would only change my Galaxy S for a Galaxy SII because now that sIII is out sII will be a lot cheaper.
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Zikor said:
torch? go to the hardware store... buy a torch there its only 5 bucks!.
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If only it worked as a phone too..
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muzicfreako said:
Lol! "A friend's SGS3"?? And LCD, seriously?? Its an Amoled display.
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Yes, LCD seriously. The technology used in both are similar. Although, the clarity/quality is a lot better in SGS3. Your opinion of the two might change after you've seen/compared the specifications.
i9000 - Super Amoled, 480x800, 4.0" at ~233ppi pixel density
i9300 - Super Amoled, 720x1280, 4.8" at ~ 306ppi pixel density

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Yes, LCD seriously. The technology used in both are similar. Although, the clarity/quality is a lot better in SGS3. Your opinion of the two might change after you've seen/compared the specifications.
i9000 - Super Amoled, 480x800, 4.0" at ~233ppi pixel density
i9300 - Super Amoled, 720x1280, 4.8" at ~ 306ppi pixel density
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He means that the technology used is not LCD. It's AMOLED (ActiveMatrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode).
I will also first look in the store if there's really a big benefit in the new resolution on such a "small" screen. It's not like I will be looking at individual pixels when I'm reading my e-mails, browsing the web or playing sudoku...
What does interest me the most about this phone is the extra hardware such as NFC. There's a thousand things you can do with that to simplify the daily use of the phone but it will not come quickly (modders will need time to investigate the capabilities and write custom code for it).
I too was sold when I saw the launch event, but now that I see a lot of features coming to the SGS, I have my doubts about spending so much money for what could be a small upgrade (I know for some it's a big upgrade, but for my usage maybe not really).

^ I've taken a look at nfc threads for phones that support it now, and it does look like everything is way in the future.
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Pierreken said:
He means that the technology used is not LCD. It's AMOLED (ActiveMatrix Organic Light-Emitting Diode).
I will also first look in the store if there's really a big benefit in the new resolution on such a "small" screen. It's not like I will be looking at individual pixels when I'm reading my e-mails, browsing the web or playing sudoku...
What does interest me the most about this phone is the extra hardware such as NFC. There's a thousand things you can do with that to simplify the daily use of the phone but it will not come quickly (modders will need time to investigate the capabilities and write custom code for it).
I too was sold when I saw the launch event, but now that I see a lot of features coming to the SGS, I have my doubts about spending so much money for what could be a small upgrade (I know for some it's a big upgrade, but for my usage maybe not really).
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Oops. Mea culpa.

I'll change my Galaxy S with SII, thanks to lower price and because SIII is too big for my pocket. I even don't like its shape

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[Q] Nexus One --> Galaxy S ?

I realise there was a giant mad thread about this that just got closed and I'm not interested in reforming that here. I have a few questions and would like some discussion but not interested in arguments
1) Prices where you are?
Where I live (New Zealand) Nexus One cost about the same as the Galaxy S. I'm just wondering is the Nexus One regarded as a cheaper phone in America or where ever you live (I realise it's not sold anymore, but before they stopped selling it) and when I say cheaper I mean purely money wise, not feel or anything.
I ask this because I've seen the statement before: "Galaxy S is great but it's not worth the extra money from a Nexus" and just wondering if that's how it really is.
2) Gaming?
I'm curious as I see a lot of people here defending their Nexus One's over the Galaxy S and I understand the reasons they give however I have a feeling all the people that prefer their Nexus One's to any Galaxy S series phone don't use their phones for gaming much, if at all. Would this be correct?
I currently own a Nexus One and I have to be honest for gaming it really sucks. I was so excited for Gameboy & Playstation emulators and I can't play any kind of RPG or Action game on them that requires me to push more than 1 button at a time or it registers my fingers all over the place!
My Situation
Due to prices being what I believe to be a little backwards here I can sell my old Nexus One (with a couple of little marks around it, etc, basically it's just used) and buy a BRAND NEW 8GB Galaxy S and it would only cost me a maximum of $100 ($70 US) or if things work out well it'd cost me nothing at all. Which brings me to question 3...
3) Should I 'upgrade'?
I know a lot of people don't consider it an 'upgrade' however for me personally I consider it entirely worth it for the GPU & multitouch alone. I brought my Nexus One excited of the idea of multi touch gaming and am guttered at how virtually any emulated or 3d game performs on my N1 (I was totally unaware of the lack of multi-touch when I brought the phone)
Also I'm interested in any sort of discussion on reasons for/against switching to a Galaxy S but please no NEXUS ONE IS BEST DIE IPHONE FANBOY GALAXY IS CHEAP PLASTIC crap. I love my Nexus but I feel the Galaxy better suits me.
Ok. I was probably one of the ones who was arguing in the other thread but I didnt start it. I got bashed because I said the Galaxy is the better phone.
Anyways Im not going down that road again. Ive got both phones at this moment and if your into gaming I say go to the Galaxy. Is the galaxy a way better phone, no, But what it has is definetely a upgrade. Ive said it before and ill say it again. On the sgs I never have to check my memory worrying about if I got enough room to install a new app, I used to check daily on my n1. I never ever check memory as I still got over 1.2 gigs left and about 120 apps installed. Gaming, Im not to into gaming as Im a 27 year old man, but when I do Id like to be able to play them well, and On the n1 it was a total failure. Toon warz would wig out when you shoot and run at the same time and when you let go of shooting it will still be shooting because of the axis problem. Pinch to zoom alone even in the browser isnt even as close to the SGS.
The super amoled is way better than regular amoled and makes it look like a TFT screen.
Im not gonna go into more about how the sgs beats the n1 cause ive done that enough, so Ill answer your question.
Hell yes I am, the SGS is the better device, by a lot? No, but enough for me to upgrade. The MT alone is enough for a upgrade and you wanna play games? well the SGS has no problem playing toon warz. I need a top device that can multitouch, and the N1 will never, ever be able to play MT games well. Even the old Iphone2g had better MT screen than the n1. I actually laugh at people who think the N1 handles 3d games as well as the SGS. Just not gonna happen. Go on youtube and watch on Android.com I believe the benchmarks vs SGS against droid x, evo and n1, the dude even plays asphalt and even the Video maker says that the SGS blows it all away.
Im not dogging the n1 cause im keeping mine, its a great phone and a great developer phone, but if you want gaming or for movies, the n1 is just not the device for that. The SGS sounds more like its what your looking for, True MT, More responsive for games, bigger screen and Waaaay brighter.
SGS FTW....
No hating on me this time please. The n1 is great, but common, the SGS out Specs it in almost all departments.
1) Not from what I remember, I payed $530 out right for my Nexus when it came out, Most of the current galaxy s phones are currently going for cheap on Amazon and such. I think it was basically free with a 2 year last I saw.
2) The GalaxyS has a getter GPU then the Nexus One (and most of the snapdragon phones to be fair) so the GalaxyS would most definitely play games better then the Nexus One.
3) It appears that 3D gaming is important to you, and if thats what you want the the GalxS phones should work great for you. Also the CPU is a smidgin' better on the GalxS then on the Nexus.
Most people in the Nexus One forums including myself see anything that doesnt give the freedom like a dev phone is a downgrade. That is where the "its not an upgrade" thing is coming from. Because with the mod community you basically never have an old phone, you can always flash a new rom and be totally different from anyone else.
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If you want something for gaming i suggest waiting for a Tegra 2 tablet or if you dont like tablets LG is making some Tegra 2 Phones which will be super fast..or you can get the Milestone 2 when it comes out.
I don't for a second believe Samsung will put the requisite priority on upgrading the OS to the latest Android. I think it will get upgraded, unlike the Behold II, but I don't think it'll happen for MONTHS after phones like the N1. Also, Touchwiz is hideous and changing to ADW or LP doesn't help with the cartoonish icons.
That being said, I AM jealous of the screen, processor, and multitouch sensor... just not enough to put myself into what I know will be a very frustrating position in a few months.
Blueman101 said:
Most people in the Nexus One forums including myself see anything that doesnt give the freedom like a dev phone is a downgrade. That is where the "its not an upgrade" thing is coming from. Because with the mod community you basically never have an old phone, you can always flash a new rom and be totally different from anyone else.
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That's one thing I'll definitely miss however I'm an absolute sucker for interface and screens.
For example the physics bounce back in list menus on the Galaxy S! Such a simple thing but to me I see it as so important as it's something that you constantly encounter and I love the overall feel it gives to the device.
and I think anyone that has used it has to admit that the 4 inch screen is beautiful and I wasn't sure I would but after using it I think the 4inch is a great size (I'm thinking Droid X & EVO would be too big for me)
I'm sad to admit it but the iPhone still kicks Android's ass with its gestures and physics. I prefer Android in every other area of the OS but for example the Gallery and Web Browser in iPhone if you have a play with it you'll see what I mean with the pinch to zoom, it is really really nice to use. I always wished my Nexus had that and I'm glad to see Samsung took some steps towards getting that feel to Android (with the list bounce back etc.)
but back to my point. I love the developer side of my Nexus one and that we get new versions etc so early however I'm the sort of person that everytime I open the Gallery app I have to do a wee pinch on each photo just because I love gestures and multi touch so much or will unlock my phone just to look at the big screen and the live wallpaper with water rippling in my hand and I think thats why I feel so drawn to the Galaxy S with its giant bright screen and amazing GPU that can render that awesome Samsung live water wallpaper with ease (check it out if you haven't)
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If you want something for gaming i suggest waiting for a Tegra 2 tablet or if you dont like tablets LG is making some Tegra 2 Phones which will be super fast..or you can get the Milestone 2 when it comes out.
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I see what you're saying and I considered this as well however with my situation that I mentioned in the OP I currently have the opportunity to move to a Galaxy S with little or no cost, however when it comes to these next generation devices coming out later this year my Nexus will be worth a lot less and it will cost a lot more to upgrade to them.
I probably will buy a new device about mid way through next year and I will be willing to put more money into one then, however I don't want to (or mainly my girlfriend doesn't want me to ) put another few hundred into a phone in a few months time.
LevitateJay said:
That's one thing I'll definitely miss however I'm an absolute sucker for interface and screens.
For example the physics bounce back in list menus on the Galaxy S! Such a simple thing but to me I see it as so important as it's something that you constantly encounter and I love the overall feel it gives to the device.
and I think anyone that has used it has to admit that the 4 inch screen is beautiful and I wasn't sure I would but after using it I think the 4inch is a great size (I'm thinking Droid X & EVO would be too big for me)
I'm sad to admit it but the iPhone still kicks Android's ass with its gestures and physics. I prefer Android in every other area of the OS but for example the Gallery and Web Browser in iPhone if you have a play with it you'll see what I mean with the pinch to zoom, it is really really nice to use. I always wished my Nexus had that and I'm glad to see Samsung took some steps towards getting that feel to Android (with the list bounce back etc.)
but back to my point. I love the developer side of my Nexus one and that we get new versions etc so early however I'm the sort of person that everytime I open the Gallery app I have to do a wee pinch on each photo just because I love gestures and multi touch so much or will unlock my phone just to look at the big screen and the live wallpaper with water rippling in my hand and I think thats why I feel so drawn to the Galaxy S with its giant bright screen and amazing GPU that can render that awesome Samsung live water wallpaper with ease (check it out if you haven't)
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Pinch to peak is horrible on the n1. Funny thing is they added that while testing it on the n1. I guess they assumed no more clearpad 2000.
I love mt gestures as well. Feels futuristic.
Blueman101 said:
1) Not from what I remember, I payed $530 out right for my Nexus when it came out, Most of the current galaxy s phones are currently going for cheap on Amazon and such. I think it was basically free with a 2 year last I saw.
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I believe phones work different over there how you buy them on contract and get them cheaper etc.
Here you just buy whatever phone and put a sim card in it, be it 'pre-pay' or 'on account'. So all phones are 'unlocked'
Looking on Amazon Galaxy S phones are listed for 670 USD?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Slot-International-Warranty/dp/B003U2T57E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1283354829&sr=8-1
i am the owner of a nexus one. nearly all my phones have been from htc. i love the htc brand because of the community(xda). it is a fact everybody has to agree. an example the i5700 (comparable to the hero) but u can take a look yourself who got the better development... xperia x10 ...excellent hardware but no community support and they merely got root.
Is it an upgrade?
Hmmmm...arguable. Hardware- absolutely. the samsung i9000 is definetely an upgrade in terms of hardware but u have to keep in mind that it is 7 months newer than n1. both phones have their goods and bads. no phone is perfect. I said arguable because i am sure software wise that n1 is and will be superior. Most of us here like to flash roms, change builds..... this makes the difference (as i stated in the beginning).i do not think i9000 will get the support of this community. Just take a look at how many custom roms are present for i9000. Also at the end of the year , n1(google's developers phone) will definetely be gettting the gingerbread whereas the i9000 will be stuck on 2.2. remember that i9000 already got the upgrade from 2.1 to froyo ; so 2 upgrades for a phone is less likely. this is the policy of phones companies, instead of pushing an upgrade for the phone, they will release a new phone with gingerbread .
Is it worth?
i wont be upgrading the n1 until the 2gz or dualcore processors are out but It depends on u and ur means. Phones nowadays do not reign as a flsgship more than 3-4 months , maybe less. eg... desire hd will be out soon, then in Q2 2011, samsung is releasing a phone with 2gz processor with 1gb memory, ... android 4.0. If you have the money, ... ur choice.
My advice...
If you are so concerned about gaming, sincerely.. i would advise you to take an iphone. I myself would never buy and iphone (hate it cause i am flash addicted and i am not into games).We here at xda tend to critisize the iphones but i have to admit that it is the best at multimedia purposes mainly gaming....
You can upgrade to i9000 if u want but maybe i am wrong but the android market currently do not have many graphical games that would suit ur needs nd by the time these games get developed, then it will be time to reupgrade the phone... vicious circle!
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deeren said:
My advice...
If you are so concerned about gaming, sincerely.. i would advise you to take an iphone. I myself would never buy and iphone (hate it cause i am flash addicted and i am not into games).We here at xda tend to critisize the iphones but i have to admit that it is the best at multimedia purposes mainly gaming....
You can upgrade to i9000 if u want but maybe i am wrong but the android market currently do not have many graphical games that would suit ur needs nd by the time these games get developed, then it will be time to reupgrade the phone... vicious circle!
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I'm not entirely about gaming and I couldn't stand to buy an iPhone, many things about it disgust me. Such as a homescreen that is only an app draw!? How they deny flash, how they block countless applications, how I have to run iTunes to do anything.. argh I could go on forever. So iPhone is not for me, I love Android. As I said before however if it came down to it I think I like live backgrounds, multitouch gestures, large screens more than I like the development side... Very tough choice though.
[Q] Cyanogen Mod on Galaxy S
Also on another note I believe Galaxy S series is soon going to become a Cyanogen Mod supported device which pretty much means it'll get all the development I need am I right in assuming this??
I mean, hell it even brought 2.2 to the G1! So I can assume if Cyanogen does a version 7 for 3.0 and Galaxy S is a supported device that I could eventually see 3.0 through Cyanogen Mod if Samsung never decided to do an update?
This may help op. Even this dude wants to trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ
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This may help op. Even this dude wants to trade http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=cl4p5JI0-gQ
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haha yeah I saw that video the other day. The GPU is amazing in the Galaxy S phones, definitely in a league of its own at the moment.
If your just going to use the phone as it is I would say galaxy s, but on the flip side if to want root and gear developer base be patient or go with the nexus 1.
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If your just going to use the phone as it is I would say galaxy s, but on the flip side if to want root and gear developer base be patient or go with the nexus 1.
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I'm not really that worried about Galaxy S development btw. There has been more than 2 million (I think it might be over 3?) sold already counting US & International version sales. Just two days ago when a test Froyo build got leaked the Galaxy S (international) development thread had over 1000 people viewing it. I think all the rom development (although there already are a few out atm) are waiting for Samsungs offical 2.2 which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
Galaxy TAB. Prob run same as the Galaxy S. Why go with 4" when you can have 7" screen. Wait and see tomorrow what the specs are going to be. Keep your n1 and wait for the TAB i say. I bought a captivate. Surely a great phone. I got frustrated with the development on the Captivate. I figured it will be that way. CM will be out but who knows when it will be released no word. I bet when a official froyo will be released they will release the CM6 as well. Gives them some time to work on it. If you really want to game and watch movie do it on a bigger screen. Why on a 4" screen. My n1 will hold up to what i need to do to survive a day without any laggs, glitch or whateva i throw at it. It runs like a champ. N1 will only be replaced by N1. Yeah not good for game but it will do everything else. So if you looking for a gamer type of phone, SGS is good to go but you will be without much development. Plus even with CM, i don't see ginerbread running on the SGS. My 2 cents.
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I'm not really that worried about Galaxy S development btw. There has been more than 2 million (I think it might be over 3?) sold already counting US & International version sales. Just two days ago when a test Froyo build got leaked the Galaxy S (international) development thread had over 1000 people viewing it. I think all the rom development (although there already are a few out atm) are waiting for Samsungs offical 2.2 which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Development will be just fine. Like you said, all 4 carriers and sold a lot so far. More people are on the sgs.
You wont regret it, I say go sgs ...
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Agreed!!!!! all galaxy s phones are not the same!
Also another point to be noted is that number of phones sold is not necessarily directly proportional to the development ...
e.g, 1. i guess that (like they say) nexus one is a flop in sales but however has had enormous activity in the development section.
2. Motorola milestone/droid had an enormous success in sales(also sold millions). but did it have the kind of development we are used to???
It all comes to whether Samsung will improve their security on the bootloader bla bla bla on their froyo upgrade. and depends whether the quality chefs are shifting to the sgs or not.
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Dont be confused here, they are separate phones, each will require different roms. Do not make the mistake of counting all sgs phones in the same basket, as far as the mod community is concerned they are separate phones each require separately coded roms.
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Correct, but they will be easy to cross mod since most the files and codes are alike, yes they will require different Roms and etc, but if the epic 4g can do something chances are the others can with a slightly different way.

Is this the end of I9000 as we know it???.

With dual core I9100 with dual-core processor & 'honeycomb' around the corner, I think its the end of an era called I9000. With more than 12 million I9000s sold, there is a bleak future for it.
well its not like those 12 million phones are just gonna stop working when the new one comes out..........well maybe 6 million might have the sd cards stop working but im in a debate with myself whether to get the atrix or the S2 its hard
Everything that has a beginning have an end
we probably still have gingerbread to play around. [optimistic mode]
I hope samsung doesn't stop making new phones. One flagship model a year is very reasonable. Aside from a few specialty models here and there for specific carriers, they certainly have the right idea. One new phone a year is great and the one I have now will do just fine until my contract is up.
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Right all 12+ million are going straight in the garbage on galaxy s2 launch day, because everyone has the cash to buy a new $500+ phone every year and the galaxy S will all of the sudden be less capable.
'Bleak future' because the next version is out? Hate to break it to you but all these pieces of tech are dated and have replacements in the works before they even hit the shelves. There is no 'future' for any of them, just a moment in the sun and the glory starts fading almost instantly. Enjoy what you have and focus on the new tech when you're ready to pay for it again and start the cycle anew.
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The performance of the samsung galaxy s is absolutly fast enough (-> imo with speedmod and lagfix it's brilliant). Furthermore Gingerbread will also come for the i9000, so no need to worry. I think Samsung will not drop the phone's support so soon.
Exactly, and with all the custom roms that are going around, Im pretty sure that you'll be able to get a few more updates out of the phone before it simply can't run the latest firmware anymore.
I hate these threads. Even with the Galaxy S 2, our phones will still be 'mid range' and will still do the things that we have been using them for!
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With dual core I9100 with dual-core processor & 'honeycomb' around the corner, I think its the end of an era called I9000. With more than 12 million I9000s sold, there is a bleak future for it.
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The i9000 is the beginning
Besides, there are stil some things we can do, mostly kernel related.
Love to see GPU at 275mhz adjustment in kernel (only GPU, no CPU oc).
Remove the 56/57 FPS restriction in kernel
Update GPU's drivers in kernel
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Considering cm7 is almost stable, i'd say this is the beginning of the i9000
As long as google makes new firmware's available and the cm team keep up to date, our devices will as well. Just look at the G1
1.5 -> 1.6 -> 2.0 ->2.1 -> 2.2....
Developers + open source = We decide when a device is near its end
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Considering cm7 is almost stable, i'd say this is the beginning of the i9000
As long as google makes new firmware's available and the cm team keep up to date, our devices will as well. Just look at the G1
1.5 -> 1.6 -> 2.0 ->2.1 -> 2.2....
Developers + open source = We decide when a device is near its end
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Even more, if you look at "older" device, like the HTC vogue, it got the latest version even if it was running WinMo before... Even if samsung cease support for the SGS and 2.3 or 2.4 is the last available "official" port, we got plenty of support from the devs in here for a long time!
Fail thread....................
CM7 is really stable, this is a huge leap towards future upgrades. It's took so long for the guys to get past all Samsungs crap and finally they're making real progress. So how is this the end of the i9000? There are plenty of REALLY old phones still running the latest version of android.
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Fail thread....................
CM7 is really stable, this is a huge leap towards future upgrades. It's took so long for the guys to get past all Samsungs crap and finally they're making real progress. So how is this the end of the i9000? There are plenty of REALLY old phones still running the latest version of android.
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I'm still having a Nokia3310. :embarassed:
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I'm still having a Nokia3310. :embarassed:
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Dude don't be embarrassed, play as much snake and space invaders as you like!
At the end of the day with all these dual core processors are they really going to be able to do anything our single cores can't?
The only immediate advantage i can see is for gaming, its not like web browsing or texting needs two cores.
As for nfc well i can't see it replacing bank cards any time soon. Everyone thought visa and the like would spell the end for cash and it hasn't.
I think its a lot of fuss over nothing and is only gonna be good for people who like to measure their e-penis!
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I actually think the SGS is in great shape with CM7 on the way. Plus its hardware can probably handle anything up to 2.4 and dual cores are not that big of a deal. So rest assured we still have a future ahead.
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ragin said:
With dual core I9100 with dual-core processor & 'honeycomb' around the corner, I think its the end of an era called I9000. With more than 12 million I9000s sold, there is a bleak future for it.
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its totally depend on people interest,,,,,if dev os interested in one pertucular device then some how devlopment is going on,i had touch hd and still dev is cooking rom........................so its hard to say.and upto how long we will keep on buying new handset?every year new cellphone with new technology..........i think that is policy of mobile company to give less support to existing phone and sell new more,,,,,,,,i think ones they sell mobile they forgot coustomer,,,,,,tht why microsoft is on oxygen....
im more than happy with my SGS and i wont panic into buyins the SGS-2 until i think its necessary,
2x processors = 2x quicker battery drain... unless there is a massive breakthrough in powering a battery for longer.... we will all be carrying our own personal 'car battery' to keep our phones running.
it will be like going back to the 80's with a phone bigger than a breeze block.
but if you can afford a new SGS-2 by all means go for it !!! but us SGS 1 owners aint embarrassed... there wont be a massive difference IMO except our wallets will be lighter and maybe our credit rating a bit higher
who cares.
Can a noob like myself state that the OP is talking utter, utter nonsense without being accused of flaming? I know I shouldn't get irritated, and please let me know if you think I'm out of order, but such ludicrous generalisations as the OPs, stated as bald fact without any evidence whatsoever deserve to be shot down, IMHO.
I've had my Galaxy for two weeks. It's doing everything I need it to do, and thanks to the wonderful people here, it's tweaked to death, quick, responsive and has also become my main music player (thanks supercurio!). I see absolutely no need to even consider replacing it because something new and shiny is just around the corner. Something new and shiny is always just around the corner.
"This is the end as we know it"
"End of an era"
"Bleak future"
Good grief. Armageddon time.Just as well you're not being melodramatic, eh? I'll try to survive in this era (an era of less than a year? Of course!) as long as i can...
I think t1mann has it right.

SGS III + Galaxy Nexus

So i saw on 4chan (i know it's a bad source) that they are making 2 new phones with some pretty awesome specs..
News Article: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/1...eam-sandwich-as-2-4-and-galaxy-siii-revealed/
Mirror to Leaked Docs: http://tylerwatt12.com/samsung/nexus.htm
Nice story, but I doubt it's true . Why would Samsung go around and reveal something that's not their job to do (ICS and Nexus phone), and why would they talk about phone that should come out in august next year...
Don't know, little bit odd , but thanks for sharing....
Ugh
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the "Galaxy Nexus" is not a nexus phone! its a galaxy phone. trust me!
there are reasons why the nexus one isnt called HTC ONE NEXUS
or the nexus S not samsung s nexus.
WHY the Galaxy Nexus not a NEXUS phone is!
To all people thinking the Galaxy nexus is a nexus phone.
well no its not!
there i9s a reason why it never was a:
HTC ONE NEXUS
SAMSUNG S NEXUS.
plus a few facts:
the galaxy nexus was spotted running
2.4.1?
with a glassy blue green theme(doesnt that sound like touch wiz?)
no onscreen buttons like 3.0? the new screen size was deu to the on screen buttons right? well that was the most logical guess.
"s that he said the phone is running an Exynos processor clocked at 1.5GHz. We all know now that the next Nexus will run a TI OMAP chip"
(droid-life)
The CEO of Notion:
"Google will be releasing Ice Cream Sandwich in late October, OMAP devices will be the preferred platform (and receive the update before Tegra devices), and the Notion Ink will have the Adam updated by November."
even shows more that its probably not a nexus but a galaxy we are talking about here.
plus!
why would the galaxy III have better specs than the next nexus in such short release span?
there for.i say.
NO! its not a nexus phone.
but a galaxy phone!
I've been intending to comment on that rumor I read at phonedog. I didn't read your link but I was like, "yeah right" when they said the g3 was going to have 1080p at 60fps. That's the biggest crock of ****!
I'm no expert but considering how much data is being recorded at 30fps, to claim of double that rate is bs. I didn't do the math, but even if it were true, 32gb of storage would be eaten up in maybe 16 minutes or less. I'm thinking a lot less. Not only that, claiming a phone's hardware can handle the task is a joke too.
simple...
it all comes down to business
and as far as i can tell Nexus phones always hand technology a bit behind times packed, with new hardware for testing
is like a hybrid between new and old, but never all newest tech inside
AllGamer said:
simple...
it all comes down to business
and as far as i can tell Nexus phones always hand technology a bit behind times packed, with new hardware for testing
is like a hybrid between new and old, but never all newest tech inside
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Nexus one ..... was ahead of technology.
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Nexus one ..... was ahead of technology.
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This guy is right. The Nexus One set the bar for what we have now.
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Nexus Prime Wanted Features
So as many of us are busy speculating or patiently waiting for the Nexus Prime (or Galaxy Nexus), I thought it'd be a little bit fun to see what features (It can be non-feature breaking, but nice to have.) people would like to see on the next Nexus. I guess this is my way of killing time and counting down the days until I can get my hands on one myself.
My personal favourites would have to be a Notification LED, dedicated Camera button, and Samsung's (or Google's) BBM-alternative.
So, What's your mini/mega feature that you want to see in the next iteration?
It would be nice if it made me a coffee.
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So as many of us are busy speculating or patiently waiting for the Nexus Prime (or Galaxy Nexus), I thought it'd be a little bit fun to see what features (It can be non-feature breaking, but nice to have.) people would like to see on the next Nexus. I guess this is my way of killing time and counting down the days until I can get my hands on one myself.
My personal favourites would have to be a Notification LED, dedicated Camera button, and Samsung's (or Google's) BBM-alternative.
So, What's your mini/mega feature that you want to see in the next iteration?
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Highly doubt you'd Samsungs version of anything software wise on a Nexus phone, and that's fine.by me. I also doubt we will see a dedicated camera button because many people don't seem bothered by not having one(could be wrong here).
My biggest hope is that with all these variants that could be coming down the pipeline, that xda makes separate sections for each individual phone this go round.
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Which phone to choose guys?

Guys I am planning to buy a new phone. I want your suggestions about choosing the right one. I am relying on good battery life and phone which has a good amount of development going on (custom roms, kernels, miui, cyanogenmod, ics etc.) coz I love to fiddle with devices a lot. My current choices are :
Samsung galaxy R
Samsung galaxy S plus
HTC Desire S
HTC Incredible S
These are my options but senior members can suggest me phone in range of 23000 INR ($475).
Thanks in advance guys
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I came from the I9003, and I am pleased with the development of IncS, the Desire S might have more development. Samsung S+ and R both have the same level of development as the I9003.
Other impressions are: the sound quality of the earpiece of the IncS is not so good compared to the I9003. Music playback using headphone from the IncS is virtually unlistenable to me, the quality is too f***ed up for me, even worse than the I9003 which is not so good by my standard. Although this is kinda biased considering my audio setup on my PC is about a grand and my headphone setup is around 600$. Otherwise I'm more pleased with HTC firmwares and AOSP development here compared to Samsung.
whats wrong with your current phone? Your "upgrade" path seems to be a step sideways.
None, if I got a new phone on a budget, Id get a Sensation or Galaxy s II, the prices will really drop as the new phones are released in the next few months. They both have great developer support, and are dual core
Both those Samsungs dont have great developer support, and the HTC's mentioned are not cutting edge tech.. just my two cents
When I upgraded it was a mere 25$ spent, but yes now that you mentioned it, it is kinda a sidegrade that you only should do if you can do it cheap or you are fed up with the development of the I9003, which I did.
Nonverbose said:
whats wrong with your current phone? Your "upgrade" path seems to be a step sideways.
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I am planning to gift this phone to my brother. Had bought this phone something like 1 month ago. So hunting for new handset
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markj338 said:
None, if I got a new phone on a budget, Id get a Sensation or Galaxy s II, the prices will really drop as the new phones are released in the next few months. They both have great developer support, and are dual core
Both those Samsungs dont have great developer support, and the HTC's mentioned are not cutting edge tech.. just my two cents
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Thanks for the great info. Now I am in a fix. Might be my brother will have to bear with his old phone. Sheesh!
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bigeyes0x0 said:
When I upgraded it was a mere 25$ spent, but yes now that you mentioned it, it is kinda a sidegrade that you only should do if you can do it cheap or you are fed up with the development of the I9003, which I did.
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Hmm. Will have to get a better deal on galaxy s2 maybe or sensation
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ashzoomerintrack said:
Hmm. Will have to get a better deal on galaxy s2 maybe or sensation
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The htc Evo 3d is well within your price range, its got a larger screen, dual core processor, more powerful gpu and better dev support as well as being 3d.
Also the Droid razr is another high end phone that I have read many good reviews about. The price has dropped somewhat, and you could find one within your budget if you looked hard enough.
It really depends on what your criteria is, I personally have mixed feelings about the IncS and probably HTC phones in general. I also own a very low budget device, a huawei u8180 and I am actually 10x more satisfied with that than what I am with this phone. There's really only one dev with one rom/kernel worth using, but he is absolutely amazing, and constantly updating and improving his work, squeezing every last drop of performance out of such a low end budget device.
I could go on, but I don't want to upset the few devs who thankfully haven't forgotten that we still exist.
ashzoomerintrack said:
Guys I am planning to buy a new phone. I want your suggestions about choosing the right one. I am relying on good battery life and phone which has a good amount of development going on (custom roms, kernels, miui, cyanogenmod, ics etc.) coz I love to fiddle with devices a lot. My current choices are :
Samsung galaxy R
Samsung galaxy S plus
HTC Desire S
HTC Incredible S
These are my options but senior members can suggest me phone in range of 23000 INR ($475).
Thanks in advance guys
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Samsung R is the way to go. Because it is basically a stripped down version of the Galaxy S2. But the things is, it isn't available any more in india in many shops and THERE IS NO CYANOGENMOD FOR IT! Not official at least.
The second choice would be the Incredible S
Reasons:
1. Cyanogen mod 7. Official
2. better screen than the Desire
3. Better camera than any of the mentioned phones
4. SRS audio is amazing. And add to that, if you root it, you get DSP manager and trust me, after DSP, there isn't anything better than this device.
5. Overclocks up to 1.5 GHz. That's more than the amount on the Galaxy
6. 768MB ram
7. The softkeys can be completely made to disappear. Once rooted though.
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Samsung R is the way to go. Because it is basically a stripped down version of the Galaxy S2. But the things is, it isn't available any more in india in many shops and THERE IS NO CYANOGENMOD FOR IT! Not official at least.
The second choice would be the Incredible S
Reasons:
1. Cyanogen mod 7. Official
2. better screen than the Desire
3. Better camera than any of the mentioned phones
4. SRS audio is amazing. And add to that, if you root it, you get DSP manager and trust me, after DSP, there isn't anything better than this device.
5. Overclocks up to 1.5 GHz. That's more than the amount on the Galaxy
6. 768MB ram
7. The softkeys can be completely made to disappear. Once rooted though.
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I had encounters with Samsung phones and I'm very disappointed in them , I'd go with a HTC and between Desire and Incredible definitely go for the Incredible S , I just gone from desire to incredible myself and its quite a jump , much much much better performance not laggy nor choppy , much more dev , love the S-LCD nice colored screen , the firm shape and the 8mp camera is just an overkill ^^
Jhon101 , how do you hide the softkeys? o.0 in cyanogenmod?
Imp0stoR said:
I had encounters with Samsung phones and I'm very disappointed in them , I'd go with a HTC and between Desire and Incredible definitely go for the Incredible S , I just gone from desire to incredible myself and its quite a jump , much much much better performance not laggy nor choppy , much more dev , love the S-LCD nice colored screen , the firm shape and the 8mp camera is just an overkill ^^
Jhon101 , how do you hide the softkeys? o.0 in cyanogenmod?
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It's a script. The lights are based on an LCD display and aren't like the ones on Galaxy phones where the logo just gets lighted up and it's there even when the phone is off.
Here's the Method:
1) Download and install GScript Lite from Android Market. Its free
https://market.android.com/details?i...riptLite&hl=en
2) Download the attached gscript.zip file and extract the two files buttonledON.sh & buttonledOFF.sh to SDCard/gscript (make "gscript" folder in root of sdcard if not present already)
3) Run Gscript Lite. Allow root permission .Click Menu >Add Script.
If u have placed the two script files in correct folder, they will appear. Open and save them both. (dont edit anything other than the Name..you can change it to LED ON/OFF... Run one to turn off led light, other to turn on back to norma)
4) Two icons of script will be there to let you turn on/off those led lights.
Here's the link of the two files : http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=744519&d=1318170330
You just got to be rooted that's all.
And mine doesn't switch on and off on will but is actually controlled by the baclklight settings. Eg: At lowest light, the Softkeys won't be viewable!
But of course you can access them. And they're brightest when you make the backlight the brightest. more convinient this way!
All credit goes to: jjdoctor for coming up with the script!
Make sure to hit thanks if I helped.

Considering the Note; problems?

I'm considering a move to the Note from my SGS2 (which would go to my wife to replace her aging Captivate).
Searching either returned to varied results, or nothing. The Wiki didn't seem to cover these specific questions.
The features and whatnot all look great to me, but my question is regarding some of the issues I've seen mentioned lately. An EMMC brick, screen problems, etc.
What known issues are there?
How severe are they?
Do they affect newer batches of the device?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
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I'm considering a move to the Note from my SGS2 (which would go to my wife to replace her aging Captivate).
Searching either returned to varied results, or nothing. The Wiki didn't seem to cover these specific questions.
The features and whatnot all look great to me, but my question is regarding some of the issues I've seen mentioned lately. An EMMC brick, screen problems, etc.
What known issues are there?
How severe are they?
Do they affect newer batches of the device?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
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As my sister uses the glaxy note, what I can say is that there has been almost no complaints yet. The screen is good , it rarely appears pixelated but is oversaturated. About the bricks, I believe that it was notes for a specific time frame but is fixed now.... Unlukily I completely forgot where I read that ..
Hope your questions got awnsered!
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The eMMC bug is still present, Apparently samsung are working on a fix, But there is no timeframe as to when it will be released.
Its a serious matter, But if you follow the instructions you will be fine, Just avoid doing a full wipe on a stock ICS kernel, Simple as that, Get the phone, Flash a KNOWN Safe kernel and job done :good:
Your note might come with GB not ICS, If this is the case, You can just stick with it until the eMMC bug is fixed, GB on the Note is very nice and very smooth, I upgraded to ICS via ODIN and havent seen a massive improvement, Only a few minor tweaks and such.
The screen issues dont affect everyone, Only a small number of users, However there have been a few tips and tricks to help eradicate it.
All in all i'd say its an awesome device, Id highly recommend you go for it.
Thank you both for the quick, encouraging words. Sounds like it's just crapshoot for screen issues then, which is normal for everything. I'll both the phone once to make sure it works, then I'll have AOKP on it before it can take another breath
Or wait and buy the note 2
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ive had the galaxy note for quite some time now and i must say that is an awesome device. There have been some problems such as dead pixels on the screen but as long as you buy it from an authorized samsung retailer then it should be fine as warranty will cover any hardware problem as long as it is not damaged by use. eMMC brickbug problem plauges the exynos based phones including the Galaxy Note but as said in the previous post most likely your galaxy note will come with Gingerbread out of the box and until samsung come up with a fix for that problem you can stick to GB. However even if you have ICS out of the box as long as you stay away from wiping/factory resetting and flashing any roms then your device will be ok. (Personally my galaxy note had the eMMC bug and after a wipe it had to be repaired. But since i had valid warranty i got it repaired free of charge from Samsung Service Center)
Other than that there is nothing to complain about. The screen is just great. The HD resolution combined with the big screen make it awesome for media shuch as movies and games. You also have the S-Pen to play around with. All in all it is an awesome device. If you want me to cover anything in particular, then i can make a quick youtube video, as i have a Galaxy note at my disposal.
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Or wait and buy the note 2
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With you there, but if the Note 2 ends up being worthwhile to me, which I expect it will, I'll grab one and pass the Note 1 I'm considering to my wife. We have an understanding. I get first dibbs on phones, she gets first dibbs on laptops.
I have had my note for a little over a month now and the only problem I JUST realized with this device is the Samsung touchwiz ui. I know some people like the touchwiz ui but try using a pure google aosp rom and you will get the idea of what I mean. I'm currently using liquid smooth rom(less than 24 hours in) ad I'm absolutely LOVING the pure aosp ice cream sandwich ui!
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I have had my note for a little over a month now and the only problem I JUST realized with this device is the Samsung touchwiz ui. I know some people like the touchwiz ui but try using a pure google aosp rom and you will get the idea of what I mean. I'm currently using liquid smooth rom(less than 24 hours in) ad I'm absolutely LOVING the pure aosp ice cream sandwich ui!
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I agree with you that the stock touchwiz ui rom that comes out of the box is not the fastest and quite often lags. Instead i recommend using a faster launcher like: Nova Launcher OR Apex Launcher which are miles better and faster than the stock launcher. They are way smoother and can offer quite some customization and personalisation.
Dungeon47 said:
I'm considering a move to the Note from my SGS2 (which would go to my wife to replace her aging Captivate).
Searching either returned to varied results, or nothing. The Wiki didn't seem to cover these specific questions.
The features and whatnot all look great to me, but my question is regarding some of the issues I've seen mentioned lately. An EMMC brick, screen problems, etc.
What known issues are there?
How severe are they?
Do they affect newer batches of the device?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
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Yes the eMMc affects new batches. If you get a new device and it has GB 2.3.6 pre-loaded, dont update to ICS 4.0.3 just yet. Other issues, pink spot on the camera under certain light conditions. Seems to be a batch issue, and I think it still affects new units. Search on youtube for examples. The S2 is the same, but you already have an S2, so it is comparable to the 'Note. I think the SGN is fine, most issues surround the ICS update, hence my advice of holding off of any update if you get one with GB. Is it possible for you to check before you buy? If your into rooting and flashing, have a good read on the forums, much has been written. If, like me you run it as a standard factory install, a gingerbread 'Note is wonderful.
Dude check for black clipping...there on my note big time..hate it..what's the point of a so called HD screen when no dark video is watchable..other than that it is hands down the best device..
I've just ordered my Galaxy Note and received it recently, but I was planning to wait for the Galaxy Note 2 but considering it would have just quad core and a bigger screen (the Note's one already neded some getting used to for me xD) I thought I'd just stick with the Note. That and getting it at a good price
Also, I've asked a few questions, and the helpful guys here answered it about the differences upgrading the ICS from GB, I think it might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722859
ShahinTehShiz said:
I've just ordered my Galaxy Note and received it recently, but I was planning to wait for the Galaxy Note 2 but considering it would have just quad core and a bigger screen (the Note's one already neded some getting used to for me xD) I thought I'd just stick with the Note. That and getting it at a good price
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Don't underestimate the Note 2. It is more likely to have the following specs:
5.4" or 5.5" screen
Better build quality(maybe less plastic and more screen to make device smaller)
WSXGA+ screen 1680x1050 resolution
4G LTE built in all model
NFC built in all models
The exynos 5250 dual core cortex a15 based processor(faster than current exynos 4212)
Much better GPU
Possible RAM Increase
Better version of SPen
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