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3.0 Kernel for AOSP JB?

I've been using Codename ever since it came out but I got tired of the problems related to the Kernel and switched to ProjectX. I and I'm sure others really want to use a smooth and working JB ROM.
Is there anyone working on the 3.0 Kernel for our device? I know Nik said he contacted someone to help us out but there's been no news on that front yet.
If anyone knows how to modify Kernels, Adi_pat gave some tips here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
He'll probably help us out if we make some progress in booting up Codename with it at least

TheDareDevil said:
I've been using Codename ever since it came out but I got tired of the problems related to the Kernel and switched to ProjectX. I and I'm sure others really want to use a smooth and working JB ROM.
Is there anyone working on the 3.0 Kernel for our device? I know Nik said he contacted someone to help us out but there's been no news on that front yet.
If anyone knows how to modify Kernels, Adi_pat gave some tips here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899335&page=38
He'll probably help us out if we make some progress in booting up Codename with it at least
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Upon the exit of JB roms ago, were used GB modified kernel, now with source code maybe will be possible to compile a fully working kernel, but afaik there are no 3.x kernel for JB, maybe someone is working out of xda on irc channel but don't known..
Sadly I do not have much competence, plus I don't have the phone it's to repair....

There is kernel 3 for incredible 2 and desire s..may be someone can port it..
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I might be crazy, but I remember reading a post not too long ago about a dev that was writing the 3.0 kernel from source for our phones. I haven't heard an update since then, but I remember hearing it was someone with relation to the cm9 team. It sounded promising, but that development was very slow.
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TheMegosh said:
I might be crazy, but I remember reading a post not too long ago about a dev that was writing the 3.0 kernel from source for our phones. I haven't heard an update since then, but I remember hearing it was someone with relation to the cm9 team. It sounded promising, but that development was very slow.
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Off the top of my head I seem to recall Noverbose saying he was trying to write a 3.0 Kernel. I also remember at least one other person mentioning something similar to, so there are people working on this. From what I understand it's not easy - I doubt we'll see anything this side of Christmas tbh. I hadn't realised that the Inc 2 and DS had a 3.0 Kernel though. Anyone know if they are actually a made from source version, rather than the same hacked version that we have in Codename, for example?

Well tbh honest a working GB kernel would do too.
Like the front camera and chrome and screen flickering etc.
Damn I wish kaijura was here
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CyanideJack said:
Off the top of my head I seem to recall Noverbose saying he was trying to write a 3.0 Kernel. I also remember at least one other person mentioning something similar to, so there are people working on this. From what I understand it's not easy - I doubt we'll see anything this side of Christmas tbh. I hadn't realised that the Inc 2 and DS had a 3.0 Kernel though. Anyone know if they are actually a made from source version, rather than the same hacked version that we have in Codename, for example?
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Yes those 3.0 kernels are compiled from source. I checked out AOSP ROM threads in the Desire S and Inc 2 section that had 3.0 kernel, then looked up the creator of the ROM on github and found the sources. I was going to try tackle the 3.0 kernel to get a hang of the make system before building CM9, but I don't have enough monthly data left to download the kernel toolchain! Nov 1st is close, so I can get to work soon! :highfive:
The best way to build an AOSP 3.0 kernel for our device would probably be to look at the source code for 3.0 kernels on our sister devices, and figure it out from there.

ZaySk said:
Yes those 3.0 kernels are compiled from source. I checked out AOSP ROM threads in the Desire S and Inc 2 section that had 3.0 kernel, then looked up the creator of the ROM on github and found the sources. I was going to try tackle the 3.0 kernel to get a hang of the make system before building CM9, but I don't have enough monthly data left to download the kernel toolchain! Nov 1st is close, so I can get to work soon! :highfive:
The best way to build an AOSP 3.0 kernel for our device would probably be to look at the source code for 3.0 kernels on our sister devices, and figure it out from there.
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Well holy crap, dude, get on that! Seriously though, getting a working 3.0 kernel for our device would go a long way to making JB a usable ROM for our device. Would it be possible to port JellyTime or a similar JB ROM to our device as well?

The source doesn't need changing, it is the ramdisk that is the problem. I have been trying to get help, but so far no luck, adi_pat said he would take a look, but it is hard for me to test as I no longer have an inc s

CyanideJack said:
Well holy crap, dude, get on that! Seriously though, getting a working 3.0 kernel for our device would go a long way to making JB a usable ROM for our device. Would it be possible to port JellyTime or a similar JB ROM to our device as well?
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I'm gonna worry mainly about compiling CM9 from source once November hits, that's gonna take up the majority of my time. After I get the first release of CM9 out, I'll start work on a 3.0 kernel if it hasn't been done yet. I have no experience whatsoever dealing with kernels though, except for small ramdisk edits, so don't expect any miracles.
It should be possible to port other JB ROM's over using one of nik's ported JB ROM's as a base and reference point, the only problem is I don't know exactly what files I have to substitute to port a ROM. I've PM'd nik about that a few hours ago, so hopefully I'll get some more information on the subject. Nik has been a big help to my dev efforts as a whole.
l0st.prophet said:
The source doesn't need changing, it is the ramdisk that is the problem. I have been trying to get help, but so far no luck, adi_pat said he would take a look, but it is hard for me to test as I no longer have an inc s
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Interesting, if it's only the ramdisk that needs changing, couldn't you look at the ramdisk from one of niks JB ROM's? Or is it not as simple as that? I'm assuming the latter, seeing as if it were that obvious I'm sure someone would've done it by now. If you ever need help testing, send me a PM I'd be more than willing to test for you.

ZaySk said:
I'm gonna worry mainly about compiling CM9 from source once November hits, that's gonna take up the majority of my time. After I get the first release of CM9 out, I'll start work on a 3.0 kernel if it hasn't been done yet. I have no experience whatsoever dealing with kernels though, except for small ramdisk edits, so don't expect any miracles.
It should be possible to port other JB ROM's over using one of nik's ported JB ROM's as a base and reference point, the only problem is I don't know exactly what files I have to substitute to port a ROM. I've PM'd nik about that a few hours ago, so hopefully I'll get some more information on the subject. Nik has been a big help to my dev efforts as a whole.
Interesting, if it's only the ramdisk that needs changing, couldn't you look at the ramdisk from one of niks JB ROM's? Or is it not as simple as that? I'm assuming the latter, seeing as if it were that obvious I'm sure someone would've done it by now. If you ever need help testing, send me a PM I'd be more than willing to test for you.
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About using one of Nik's JB roms as a reference
What I understood was that the rom has been built around the old 2.6.x kernel and has to be modified again to work with the 3.0.x kernel, if you guys get one up and running. If that is the case, wouldn't you be going down the wrong path if you model it around nik's existing 2.6.x roms?
We need kaijura here, he was our AOSP kernel master. Hopefully he is doing ok, and has found something else other than xda because he hasn't been online for months. At least other devs, like lordclokan and kali- have moved on and are active with other devices... kaijura hasn't been on at all. Anyone been in contact with him/her?

markj338 said:
About using one of Nik's JB roms as a reference
What I understood was that the rom has been built around the old 2.6.x kernel and has to be modified again to work with the 3.0.x kernel, if you guys get one up and running. If that is the case, wouldn't you be going down the wrong path if you model it around nik's existing 2.6.x roms?
We need kaijura here, he was our AOSP kernel master. Hopefully he is doing ok, and has found something else other than xda because he hasn't been online for months. At least other devs, like lordclokan and kali- have moved on and are active with other devices... kaijura hasn't been on at all. Anyone been in contact with him/her?
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I know, it would be going down a pretty redundant path. If I was able to port over a JB ROM using nik's ROM's as a base, then my ported ROM would inherit all the same bugs nik's ROM's already have.
I wish kaijura was still around, I have so many questions I want to ask about compiling from source! Luckily lordclokan was a massive help to me in that regard. Kaijura's github hasn't seen action in months either, sadly.

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't the Desire HD essentially our device with a bigger screen and less memory? That being the case, could we not just port across one of the 3.0 Kernels from that?

The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.

The only problem with the desire HD kernel would be that our front camera would not work
+ I forgot to link to adi_pat's post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
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l0st.prophet said:
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
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Well you can prolly get ideas from adi ( he posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33302707&postcount=387 not sure if you saw it) he seems to know what's up.

TheDareDevil said:
The only problem with the desire HD kernel would be that our front camera would not work
+ I forgot to link to adi_pat's post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33291894
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So it looks like the furthest things got regarding a 3.0 Kernel was;
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Ok so 2.6.35 works with Jellybean. Why not pack the ramdisk with zImage compiled from 3.0.y sources(Considering you are using standard boot.img format[?]) Because to get it to boot, you would not require any hacks/changes to source, editing ramdisk(init.rc) is enough to make it boot initally.
EDIT: You may also need to change init binary.
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l0st.prophet said:
The problem with the ramdisk that come with the official ROM's that have 3.0 kernels, is that they are built for the sense framework and don't work on AOSP ROM's. The ram disk that is included with Nik's JB ROM's is heavily modified to run a GB kernel with ICS / JB sources, so the problem is I don't have a base to work from, I am basically trying to merge the two init's to make the 3.0 kernel boot.
Saying that we need to port 3.0 kernel is probably a bit misleading, and for that I apologise, the kernel itself has very little Sense specific stuff, it's the ramdisk that is responsible for launching the kernel that is the issue here at the moment.
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Very interesting, thanks for the informative post. :good:

zaysk said:
very interesting, thanks for the informative post. :good:
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happy november!!!

markj338 said:
happy november!!!
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A very happy November indeed

One question

Why are we so limited in development on this device ? Other HTC devices got a lot of ROMS.

TheRedHunter said:
Why are we so limited in development on this device ? Other HTC devices got a lot of ROMS.
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Its Simple Fella ^__^. not that many people have this device. Sales for this device are quite poor. Plus think about the amount of time it takes to cook Roms, write guides, figure things out.... Its hard to really raise development. Also remember its a Level Entry Device... Very basic so development will be pretty limited.

I see...so there is no big difference between our device and any HTC. Maybe we can port some things from them. Am I right ?

TheRedHunter said:
I see...so there is no big difference between our device and any HTC. Maybe we can port some things from them. Am I right ?
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Yes we can always port stuff from a similar device like htc explorer(which has loads of developers), but we still need a stable Cyanogenmod Rom(build from source) to use as base .
Thats the major reason there is not much developement for our device,no fully stable CM9 or CM10 as we cannot use sense4 as a base for porting stuff.

Yah that's why everyone is waiting for SeannyM to release explos!on ROM v3.0 it will be completely custom and rid of sense
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uchihasparky said:
Yah that's why everyone is waiting for SeannyM to release explos!on ROM v3.0 it will be completely custom and rid of sense
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indeed
i'm waiting for that rom with glee

Could this work to port a ROM from HTC One X ?

Hope this question istn too nooby.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008

I sure hope so, I would love to see a fully functioning sense rom
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I don't think it's as simple as that, not with a locked bootloader. Dexter has ported the one x Rom but it is far from perfect
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honestly the guide is crappy and miss all the hardware dependent information and what needs to be modified to match current hardware and ANY framework change to support different functions.
OneX port was quite fine, but since telephony was rubbish and HTC made their own framework to support their own driver leaving out any support for other chipset, it is very hard to fix that one. except for that, i found the port quite stable except useless since phonecalls with GSM did not work

Dexter_nlb said:
honestly the guide is crappy and miss all the hardware dependent information and what needs to be modified to match current hardware and ANY framework change to support different functions.
OneX port was quite fine, but since telephony was rubbish and HTC made their own framework to support their own driver leaving out any support for other chipset, it is very hard to fix that one. except for that, i found the port quite stable except useless since phonecalls with GSM did not work
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Could you try making something like this for our phones? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260 would really help hardcore gamers like ummm ME!
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@non4 said:
Could you try making something like this for our phones? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260 would really help hardcore gamers like ummm ME!
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this is not related to a OneX port, it is just an app followed by a custom kernel to tweak performance, we got no kernel changes available (yet)

AW: Could this work to port a ROM from HTC One X ?
thats a pitty :/
but thanks for your answers
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Dexter_nlb said:
this is not related to a OneX port, it is just an app followed by a custom kernel to tweak performance, we got no kernel changes available (yet)
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Hey Dexter what about your version of CyanogenMod 10 i see that is quite popular on OneX.
I know for the problems of other developer and official O4X version ... but life is going on...

nomaj said:
Hey Dexter what about your version of CyanogenMod 10 i see that is quite popular on OneX.
I know for the problems of other developer and official O4X version ... but life is going on...
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you mean custonexus? or their new 4.2.x based edition? the one i use is currently not continued as i read the topic.
so my corrections are small and since kernel cannot change, we cannot do much.

Dexter_nlb said:
you mean custonexus? or their new 4.2.x based edition? the one i use is currently not continued as i read the topic.
so my corrections are small and since kernel cannot change, we cannot do much.
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i think 4.2.x based edition

nomaj said:
i think 4.2.x based edition
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i know it can work with kholk's release, since i tried the 3.0 paranoid on his, but since extSD is no good, i will wait until we get something stable with custom kernel too.. too many halfbaked roms are no fun.

Sense 5 rom?

Is there going to be Sense 5.0 Rom for HTC incredible s? Could it be ported?

deni1996 said:
Is there going to be Sense 5.0 Rom for HTC incredible s? Could it be ported?
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Not to sound rude but to open a new thread in the development section to ask such a question is just not right. Please post such questions in the general section.
We do not have that many devs working on incredible s as it is a relatively old device. If someone manges to develop an ion kernel and port sense 5 you will see it in the dev section.
Quite fortunate to get a few working jellybean aosp ROMs and quite a few sense 4.1 ROMs for a device that has no more support from htc so enjoy those and be happy.
@ moderator can this thread please be closed or moved to the general section?
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deni1996 said:
Is there going to be Sense 5.0 Rom for HTC incredible s? Could it be ported?
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No. Because kernel.

spazzy1912 said:
No. Because kernel.
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-_- what do u mean kernel...... The kernel is still a jellybean kernel, just modified to be compatible with Sense. Although I dont know how to do it, Im sure it might be possible for someone like Szeszo to develop such a kernel. The only problem is that it requires a ton of work and I dont think Szeszo has that much time..... Not to mention resizing of the actual ROM.....

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-_- what do u mean kernel...... The kernel is still a jellybean kernel, just modified to be compatible with Sense. Although I dont know how to do it, Im sure it might be possible for someone like Szeszo to develop such a kernel. The only problem is that it requires a ton of work and I dont think Szeszo has that much time..... Not to mention resizing of the actual ROM.....
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its got something to do with a thing called ION within the kernel.
apparently our phone doesnt have it by default.
it was mentioned somewhere in cyanvivo thread i believe.

spazzy1912 said:
its got something to do with a thing called ION within the kernel.
apparently our phone doesnt have it by default.
it was mentioned somewhere in cyanvivo thread i believe.
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Yes it was and Im well aware of that. Our phone doesnt natively support Ion and as a result you have to change some camera libs, i think they were, and maybe a few other things here and there. But it is possible and the proof to that is the fact that we have Jellybean ROMs for our device.

[WIP](Sense 5)Pending until CM10.1 and CM10.2 and CM7 finished

Hello. Now that i have difficulty finding a rom to port I shall be working on porting sense 5 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443528(Ill port first tommorow) and trying to port JElly Bam from somewher. However i will most likely need help but ill try and get the two booting tommorow as its 11 now. So ill see you all tommorow .

Shad0wPanda said:
Hello. Now that i have difficulty finding a rom to port I shall be working on porting sense 5 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443528(Ill port first tommorow) and trying to port JElly Bam from somewher. However i will most likely need help but ill try and get the two booting tommorow as its 11 now. So ill see you all tommorow .
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I think sense 5 is hard to port... about the jelly bam just find a hdpi device... no need to resize... and I think no need to edit on build.prop

@Shad0wPanda
If you need anything testing let me know.
Happy to help.

Well guys, Desire C has greater chance of getting stable Sense 5 than our Explorer. You know why ? Desire 500 uses the same BT and WiFi (ath6kl_sdio.ko) chip which is used in Desire C too. Also you are lucky about camera. Your camera sensor S5KE41 has got official ION support too. About the DPI, although resizing is required Desire 500 framework already supports MDPI.

cute_prince said:
Well guys, Desire C has greater chance of getting stable Sense 5 than our Explorer. You know why ? Desire 500 uses the same BT and WiFi (ath6kl_sdio.ko) chip which is used in Desire C too. Also you are lucky about camera. Your camera sensor S5KE41 has got official ION support too. About the DPI, although resizing is required Desire 500 framework already supports MDPI.
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Well I saw you guys already ported, would it be easier to take the port straight from the Desire 500 or from you guys? Also which like base ROM should I use? I know sense is ported differently, but which files should I use to replace? Cm10? Cm10.1 or stock?
Noob question but never ported sense before, however if I get a tester, I'll make this my project for you guys
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Thanks very match man ............. i love you!!!!!

cute_prince said:
Well guys, Desire C has greater chance of getting stable Sense 5 than our Explorer. You know why ? Desire 500 uses the same BT and WiFi (ath6kl_sdio.ko) chip which is used in Desire C too. Also you are lucky about camera. Your camera sensor S5KE41 has got official ION support too. About the DPI, although resizing is required Desire 500 framework already supports MDPI.
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Well we don't have an ion kernel... and also 2.6.x kernel sir
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Shad0wPanda said:
Hello. Now that i have difficulty finding a rom to port I shall be working on porting sense 5 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443528(Ill port first tommorow) and trying to port JElly Bam from somewher. However i will most likely need help but ill try and get the two booting tommorow as its 11 now. So ill see you all tommorow .
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Thank you @Shad0wPanda
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sorry didn't make first build I'll try Monday afternoon

Hi @Shad0wPanda,
While you're absolutely fine to go ahead with the Sense 5 port, we can't allow you to post a port of JellyBam. If you (or anybody else) was to post a JellyBam thread we would have to close the thread immediately as it's prohibited. The reason behind this is that the developer of the JellyBam ROM is banned from XDA and therefore so is any of his work.
Thanks for understanding,
- KidCarter93

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Hi @Shad0wPanda,
While you're absolutely fine to go ahead with the Sense 5 port, we can't allow you to post a port of JellyBam. If you (or anybody else) was to post a JellyBam thread we would have to close the thread immediately as it's prohibited. The reason behind this is that the developer of the JellyBam ROM is banned from XDA and therefore so is any of his work.
Thanks for understanding,
- KidCarter93
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Ok

Try porting this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456464

MameTozhio said:
Try porting this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456464
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That's kinda the idea, but we need to have an ION kernel, however I have no knowledge, so I guess we would have to call on the busy mind of @cute_prince to see if he could getbus an ION kernel first, and then I will port sense 5 using the 500 dump, as was originally planned

He hasnt even finished the CM7 kernel
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started DeOdex and also @cute_prince when are we getting 2.6 kernel as im no good with kernels

When do you finish port this rom???
i can't wait for your port .... Thanks
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When do you finish port this rom???
i can't wait for your port .... Thanks

Hey guys im thinking of getting this beast as my current computers dying: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FAST-QUAD...t=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2c712b441e
Current Computer: intel core 2 duo 2ghz vs adm a8 6600k quad core 4ghz
2gb ddr2 vs 8gb DDR3
Ati radeon hd5450 1gb vs AMD HD 8570D
I think so

Sd0w are you porting full sense 5 rom?!

amin-DESIRE-c said:
Sd0w are you porting full sense 5 rom?!
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Yeah my computer almost died but ill try soon sorry

You need ion kernel first