I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
EDIT: i meant leaks, stupid typo
The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
As it stands, the OTA will look for GB 219 when upgrading so those early adopters won't be able to get future upgrades. Unless devs find a way to downgrade or trick the update that is.
Everything I've said could be wrong however this is how I have come to understand it.
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Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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azrael293 said:
Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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No, this results in a brick. Fastboot refuses to flash older partitions over new ones.
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The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
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This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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Actually, upgrading to ICS leak is probably the way to go. We can now upgrade from leak 200 to 206, giving us the ability to stay on the upgrade path. Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
Here are the instructions for upgrading from leak 200 to 206:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-4-roms/209619-get-unstuck-ics-leak-200-aka-upgrading-200-206-instructions.html
Also, I believe Hashcode is working on bringing Safestrap 2.0 to the new ICS leak based on the new kernel, and will be working on getting our ROMs on the new kernel as well.
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Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
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droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA. I am really surprised how little interest people have in this phone. I guess I am one of the few that still loves physical keyboards. Only drawback on this phone is the non-removable battery. Otherwise it is rock solid. Had the original Tilt, then TP and TP2. Had the G2 on T-mobile, but reception on that phone was not good and T-mobile Network in the US sucks.
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droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA.
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This is true, I was just mentioning since most of the recent information regarding the ICS leak has been on droidforums so checking it out would fill everyone in on whats going on. Because basically development for the GB kernel is probably going to come to a halt and future development will be based on the new ICS kernel, including the existing AOSP ROMs.
wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?
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wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?
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No, but 206 was supposed to require 219 as 200 did and the official one will and people have found ways around it.
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I have Hashcode's stuff running on my kindle fire. We will all be in for a treat once he starts focusing on D4. He's done really really good work on the kindle.
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I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
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They won't be able to do so. What they will be able to do is make their builds work off/with the new kernel/radios flashed by the leak.
So Hashcode will have two builds.
1) - works on phones running the current stock GB kernel.
2) - works on phones running the leaked ICS kernel.
There is still a locked bootloader so you can't flash unsigned kernels/boot.img. For the leaked "system" files to help you need the ICS kernel. The only way to get the ICS kernel is to flash the leak.
So the leaks are great news for people wanting an AOKP or CM9 build running fully functional....on their leak installed phones. Not much help for those who do not want to flash the leak.
I'll definitely flash the leak once root has been released for 4.0.4 (in case OTA rootkeeper doesn't work) and hashcode releases safestrap 2.0 for the leak.
I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
So far it's working great, face unlock and the camera is working perfectly and GSM/WDCMA performance is awesome, I don't seem to have the problem of under-reported GSM signal like in the stock MotoBlur leak.
(Note that I'm in Canada and using Bell Mobility, not in the US on Verizon so I can't say if LTE is functioning properly).
I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
Won't be long before Hashcode puts up an official release, but I definitely recommend trying it out if you're up for it. If Hashcode doesn't mind, I could share a .zip of the build I made if anyone out there is interested.
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I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
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Do you think you create a guide or go into more detail how you did this? I'm not quite sure what their git is.
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I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
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This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?
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If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?
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Right now, I'm treating the front buttons like they are a special portion of the touch screen (basically any touch past 960 pixels down is considered the "button row", and then I divided the width up into 4 spots for button presses: menu, home, back and search respectively. (This is in the recovery itself as well as the splashscreen which triggers off of menu)
If that fails, Ill just use hard keys for D4's Safestrap temporarily.
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..or maybe the volume buttons (I bet it requires less modification than implementing support for the digitizer)
I just put up an updated Droid4 2.00 Safestrap for use w/ the new MotoICS leaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688610
BE SURE TO MAKE AN INITIAL BACKUP OF NON-SAFE SYSTEM BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING.
You will use the "System" backup to restore back to stock .206 to update later.
I have the D4 CM9 / AOKP builds for the MotoICS leaks almost ready and I'll post those soon.
Related
This was the tweet fromCvpcs!!! (We haz a booting "true" AOSP system with 0 blur! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPqfIRZP7Mc Still very buggy but I'm working on it)
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booyah! let get er done!
Sound like good news!
Still, could anybody explain what AOSP boot means? Will this enable us to boot a custom kernel on the x?
I have no idea what this means except 100% no blur sounds awesome!
AOSP essentially means it was built completely from source. Not built based on Moto's own build with their custom framework (blur) crap. It is a true complete Vanilla rom.
Android Open Source Project
http://source.android.com/
So they got an AOSP rom to run using the stock moto kernal? Because obv we can't change kernals at this point yet
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If they got an aosp to run they should be able to modify the kernel no? Thought that was the while point of the exploit nenolod is working on.
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this is too awesome.
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So they got an AOSP rom to run using the stock moto kernal? Because obv we can't change kernals at this point yet
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No, from my limited understanding, this isn't using the Stock Kernel. They've figured out a way to get NVRAM into Engineering Mode..
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, from my limited understanding, this isn't using the Stock Kernel. They've figured out a way to get NVRAM into Engineering Mode..
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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This AOSP has actually been running for a while now. Its being developed by cvpcs, the same guy who's been developing the Sapphire roms for Droid. I don't know if he's using the recent exploit that has made the rumor-mill lately. He claims its a true AOSP boot, which implies a custom kernel compiled from source. However, for all we know he could still be using the Moto 2.2 kernel, but replaced everything else in user space with fresh, compiled code.
Either way, its interesting. Despite Motorola's best attempts, it looks like the Droid X (and Droid 2 by implication) will soon be free of its eFuse prison, allowing us users the choice of what to run on this device.
We won't be getting rid of eFuse, as it's hard coded into the silicon itself in NVRAM, as I understand it. Its just that folks are working on getting the keys to the prison .
hi guys,
i am sniffle, a member of the CCRoms Team that produces Sapphire(Droid 1), Ruby(HTC Incredible), Obsidian(Droid X), Emerald(HTC Evo)
to clarify a few things.
this does NOT utilize the bootloader hack, it is a custom boot setup that initializes the boot process a second time to load the custom rom after the bootloader has ran all of its checks. It technically could be considered a second boot setup as it does initialize the boot process a second time.
it does NOT use a custom kernel, it uses the stock kernel, since the bootloader is not locked. the process to actually be able to use this rom is quite involved. When we are ready to release, there will be detailed instructions for flashing. If you aren't comfortable with ADB, terminal executions this rom will not be for you.
i will try to explain more as the questions come up, but for the most part that's all there is to say... other than to say that more is broken at this point than fixed. as more news comes available i will let you guys know.
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hi guys,
i am sniffle, a member of the CCRoms Team that produces Sapphire(Droid 1), Ruby(HTC Incredible), Obsidian(Droid X), Emerald(HTC Evo)
to clarify a few things.
this does NOT utilize the bootloader hack, it is a custom boot setup that initializes the boot process a second time to load the custom rom after the bootloader has ran all of its checks. It technically could be considered a second boot setup as it does initialize the boot process a second time.
it does NOT use a custom kernel, it uses the stock kernel, since the bootloader is not locked. the process to actually be able to use this rom is quite involved. When we are ready to release, there will be detailed instructions for flashing. If you aren't comfortable with ADB, terminal executions this rom will not be for you.
i will try to explain more as the questions come up, but for the most part that's all there is to say... other than to say that more is broken at this point than fixed. as more news comes available i will let you guys know.
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Thank you guys for your hard work, I am sure that most of the community is as excited as I am to see your work make it to the X. I love the boot ani from the video, and even though this is my first android phone the things Ive read about your teams previous releases has me EXCITED for this to hit.
appreciate your update and clarification, sniffle!
OMG, aosp 2.2 for my droidx would be awesome. Nice to set someone working on it, props and kudoes.
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i hear this is almost 100% working!
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i hear this is almost 100% working!
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Heard the same this morning. Very excited!
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Heard the same this morning. Very excited!
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Would love a source on this info.
Almost 100% is a bit too strong of a descriptor, there are still some major bugs like rebooting on sleep(hitting the power button to turn the screen off) and a few others on top of that. With our next sapphire and Ruby release we will be making the latest build publicly available for other development to help figure out a fix for these problems.
So who here is on an Android 4.0.4 leak? (official ICS leak)
Who is still on stock gingerbread?
Who is running a custom rom?
Answer in the comments and in the poll.
Im interested to see what is being used!
--Sam
I'm on the 208 leak. Lost root cuz I went from 200 to 206 then 208 but its all good. Only bad thing is all the bloat but besides that its running pretty well so far.
Running ICS leak. 206, kept root from GB .219
I was tempted to keep updating with each new leak, but at the expense of losing root I think I'll wait for the official upgrade to be released.
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Stock rooted/debloated Gingerbread.
ICS shouldn't be that far off....waiting for the official release version. Since leaks are hitting every 12 to 13 days.....and you lose root going from one to the next.....might as well wait it out.
Running Eclipse ROM via SafeStrap. Sounds like the ICS leaks are running really well for most people. I'd just prefer to make sure I keep root and not have to worry about jumping through a bunch of hoops to update when the OTA finally drops, which can't be too far out.
Running stock. I really like AOKP, but the data issues were killing me, so I switched back. I figure once the OTA drops the ICS ROMs will work a lot better. I'm also hoping we get working 3rd party kernels.
I am running a stock ICS Leak
I am also running the stock .206 leak for the Moto Droid 4 and loving it. I haven't tried going to the new .208 leak as of yet.
I'm on .206, rooted. Very happy with it. I don't plan on upgrading again until Dan Rosenberg releases his ICS root method. As nice as ICS is...I'd rather be on GB with root than ICS without it.
wouldn't VooDoo OTA Root keeper work in all of this? I use it to maintain my root for OTA upgrades. But wouldn't it still work with a firmware push?
Just updated to 208 using Fastboot Upgrade and New ICS Root Method then recovered my files from Safe Strap for the data partition. :-D
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Just updated to 208 using Fastboot Upgrade and New ICS Root Method then recovered my files from Safe Strap for the data partition. :-D
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Did you take a nandroid, then restore the data only partition of the nandroid after you did the upgrade? THat's a great idea. I might do the same if it is that easy! Otherwise, I'll wait for a newer leak.
buying Droid soon.
I am eagerly awaiting the official ICS rollouts for Verizon, but it may be a while. The goal is not to update myself. Is ICS really all that...and worth waiting for?
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I am eagerly awaiting the official ICS rollouts for Verizon, but it may be a while. The goal is not to update myself. Is ICS really all that...and worth waiting for?
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I was a big Motoblur guy (once you debloat it of course) and even preferred it over CM9. I just liked the theme. I think the Motoblur ICS is worth it, it's ICS with a nice familiar feel to it. Is it worth the wait? Maybe. I have faith we can get back on the official path once it comes out so I didn't take much convincing to flash a leak now.
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So who here is on an Android 4.0.4 leak? (official ICS leak)
Who is still on stock gingerbread?
Who is running a custom rom?
Answer in the comments and in the poll.
Im interested to see what is being used!
--Sam
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Not me.
Me.
Not me.
It's a corporate-supplied device... I can't mess around with custom ROMs and deal with bugs that I don't have the time to troubleshoot.
Plus no ROM will improve this awful screen or only-slightly-better camera, right?
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I'm running .206. I tried .208 but I'm too much of a noob to even fallow noob proof instructions so I'm staying with .206 till I learn more, and till I can get back on the regular path (if its even possible).
So far I like it, the only thing that doesn't work for me is the facebook (my gallery) from the accounts. It crashes my gallery with an error saying that friendfeed has stopped working, so I just don't use that part of my gallery.
I'm satisfied!
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Did you take a nandroid, then restore the data only partition of the nandroid after you did the upgrade? THat's a great idea. I might do the same if it is that easy! Otherwise, I'll wait for a newer leak.
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Yes I took a Nandroid before I started the crazy Fastboot recovery process, then once rooted and safe strap installed, I did another nandroid(heaven for bid I'd have to start over again) then flashed over data only.
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Yes I took a Nandroid before I started the crazy Fastboot recovery process, then once rooted and safe strap installed, I did another nandroid(heaven for bid I'd have to start over again) then flashed over data only.
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Can't you just use recovery for flashing back data (I assume you are using the advanced restore?) or do you need to have safestrap installed?
I am running the .208 and was able to keep root thanks to Voodoo. I know some people have had issues with keeping root when going to .208 from .206 or .200. I went from GB to to .208 maybe thats why i was able to restore root? Anywho, ive been using the leak for over a week now and i am so glad i did.
Just went from .206 to .208 using the new kernel and following the instructions over at DroidForums. Also got root with the new method. Everything works peachy-keen.
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Can anyone explain to me why the netflix app doesn't work on this ROM. Nothing ever gets displayed. AOKP on droid 4 latest build.
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Are you on one of the ICS leaks, or still have a Gingerbread "unsafe" system?
The Gingerbreak/ICS frankenROMs don't have hardware acceleration working properly (due to mismatched kernel). Thus Netflix, Chrome, Opera and anything else like that won't work.
Yeah I have gingerbread/aokp installed right now. So it sounds like I can't have a non safe system, just the ics leak installed. Is that correct? I still can't deside if I want to flash the ics leak or not. AOKP is nice and all with all its extra features, but for whatever reason, they cannot get data to work. Its pretty ridiculous they still don't have 3g/4g working after several months. Should i just go ahead and flash the ics leak?
It really isn't their fault, it is because the kernel is locked. AOKP-based off of the leak (as opposed to the Frankbuilds based on GB) work much better.
I finally jumped to the leak and atm I'm actually using the stock leak and am pretty happy with it. That being said, if you move to the leak you have to be ok with the fact that you might be off the upgrade path forever. The chance of that happening looks to be pretty small, but nobody can rule it out...
I understand its not AOKP's fault. The stuff they are pulling off is pretty advanced. Its just very frustrating from a users end trying to get data to play nice. I dont want to go to stock ICS because I really love the features AOKP has thrown in. And I dont wont to be off the upgrade path either. So will AOKP ever have solid data or are they going to have to take the stock ICS kernal and build a new AOKP ROM from that?
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I understand its not AOKP's fault. The stuff they are pulling off is pretty advanced. Its just very frustrating from a users end trying to get data to play nice. I dont want to go to stock ICS because I really love the features AOKP has thrown in. And I dont wont to be off the upgrade path either. So will AOKP ever have solid data or are they going to have to take the stock ICS kernal and build a new AOKP ROM from that?
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Bottom line is: a locked Bootloader prevents developers from providing a proper Kernel to the device. So, you don't get the HW codecs with a Gingerbread based ICS ROM, therefore no Netflix. If you install any of the leaked ICS builds, Netflix runs just fine (I can confirm)
I guess Motorola says that it's to protect us "in the name of security", but nobody seems to realize that the root exploits in themselves, already breaks that so called "security", so why not just let us have an unlocked bootloader!
Hopefully with the Google acquisition, someone can revisit that policy, and clarify to us users what it actually means. Moto probably loses customers over that policy.
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revisit that policy, and clarify to us users what it actually means. Moto probably loses customers over that policy.
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This^
You CAN have a safe system with the ICS leaks installed. You just have to use the Safestrap v 2.00 and ICS Leak build of aokp. AFAIK Netflix and HW Acc. codecs work with the new ICS leak builds!
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I would say they lose some of the die hard users, who *need* to have an unlocked boot loader. Just reading through other posts, I have seen many get so frustrated at the fact that Moto won't unlock the boot loader, that they say they won't buy moto products because of it.
I'm just thankful that people have found loopholes that allow us work arounds, but it certainly adds a lot of complexity, that wouldn't be necessary if they would just unlock the boot loader (as they said they would do).
I get Moto's stance that they need to provide support, and if people are loading custom overclocked kernels, it could certainly cause HW damage, if the chip is running at a speed out of specs, but why not have the users sign something giving up that warranty, so they can do with their devices as they wish.
I'm just saying I think they should reconsider their policy of locked boot loaders, and open up their phones to hacker enthusiasts. Heck, Jelly Bean has been announced, and most phones still don't have ICS! I would bet an unlocked boot loader would have gotten ICS into the hands of users much faster, and in this instance where there is a ICS ROM, but a GB kernel, it would actually provide for a much better user experience.
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You CAN have a safe system with the ICS leaks installed. You just have to use the Safestrap v 2.00 and ICS Leak build of aokp. AFAIK Netflix and HW Acc. codecs work with the new ICS leak builds!
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OK now I'm confused. I've been using the aokp builds for a while and they are the ics build 40 then the date. I've been flashing those for a long time but data is just as bad if not worse on some builds. Can someone explain why even though I have the ics leak, data is still screwed up? I was told data was much better on these builds.
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OK now I'm confused. I've been using the aokp builds for a while and they are the ics build 40 then the date. I've been flashing those for a long time but data is just as bad if not worse on some builds. Can someone explain why even though I have the ics leak, data is still screwed up? I was told data was much better on these builds.
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Nevrmind figured it out
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I posted these questions earlier in the Q+A section and figure this is a better place for them.....
So I've got my 4th Bionic en route due to pesky data connection issues and no GPS. I'm wondering if I should flash the .232 ICS build. A couple questions arise if I may:
- Is it easily rootable? Running .905 stock root presently on my old Bionic. New one I'm sure will have .905 obviously stock and unmessed with.
- Does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of pertinent apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
- Should I root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And the root of the external (not sdcard, sdcard-ext) SD I'm assuming is where I place the leaked ICS file?
I love these forums as they minimize the knowledge gap between people like me and experts!
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I posted these questions earlier in the Q+A section and figure this is a better place for them.....
So I've got my 4th Bionic en route due to pesky data connection issues and no GPS. I'm wondering if I should flash the .232 ICS build. A couple questions arise if I may:
- Is it easily rootable? Running .905 stock root presently on my old Bionic. New one I'm sure will have .905 obviously stock and unmessed with.
- Does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of pertinent apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
- Should I root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And the root of the external (not sdcard, sdcard-ext) SD I'm assuming is where I place the leaked ICS file?
I love these forums as they minimize the knowledge gap between people like me and experts!
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From everything I hear, .232 should fix your data connection. It is quite easy to update to it, you just have to put the proper update file onto your external sd card and boot into stock recovery and install it. It is also very easy to root, assuming you have access to a computer running windows. The utility to root it is called razrs_edge and is easy enough to find and download. You will lose root on the upgrade, so it's probably just as easy to wait until after the update to root it. There is also a utility available which will let you downgrade to .905 and apply the new update without losing your data when the time comes for the official update. That can be found here http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-droid-bionic/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html Actually, that utility can probably used to upgrade and root the phone even if you're starting on .905. Also, .232 is probably your best bet right now, as .235 is built so you can't go back to anything before it properly.
Good luck!
What about the update to the official release? Would I just be able to OTA to that, providing I defrost any bloat apps Verizon so kindly includes?
And one more quick one. Can I do that flash to .232 right now on my stock, partially frozen and rooted .905 rom without losing any apps or data? Sounds way too good to be true to me!
Thanks for your time too, dude. Totally got it!
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What about the update to the official release? Would I just be able to OTA to that, providing I defrost any bloat apps Verizon so kindly includes?
Thanks for your time too, dude. Totally got it!
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You can't directly update to the OTA, but that's what the utility which I linked in my previous reply is for. It will let you temporarily downgrade to .905 and allow you to apply the OTA. The person who maintains it does a really good job and keeps it up to date with all the new files when they're released.
You're the man dude thanks!
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You're the man dude thanks!
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If you've got an account on droidforums, make sure to thank Samuri_HL, he's the one who makes things so easy to use.
OK so I've one more question. If I wanted to install it now on my bionic with the stock rooted .905, can I just download the ICS update and install while preserving apps+data?
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dmullen1373 said:
OK so I've one more question. If I wanted to install it now on my bionic with the stock rooted .905, can I just download the ICS update and install while preserving apps+data?
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As long as you're stock, the upgrade should work fine and shouldn't affect your apps+data. You will lose root (I believe) and need to re-root afterwards though.
One more question.....
OK, so I've managed to get .232 up and running. I haven't rooted it, and truly don't see the point at least at this point because I can just disable the VZ apps that I don't need (namely, all of them.) So, now that I'm on this build, let's say they release the final version tomorrow...what is going to need to happen to update to the final version? I've truly scoured through all of these forums and can't quite figure it out. Will it just be as simple as the .232 flash? I mean is it worth going to .235 on my en route Bionic and loading all of my apps and investing the hours required in getting it perfect? Or will it all just be one waste of time? I know that the final release will be an OTA, so I'm assuming that .905 will need to be in the mix at some point hence the confusion....
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dmullen1373 said:
OK, so I've managed to get .232 up and running. I haven't rooted it, and truly don't see the point at least at this point because I can just disable the VZ apps that I don't need (namely, all of them.) So, now that I'm on this build, let's say they release the final version tomorrow...what is going to need to happen to update to the final version? I've truly scoured through all of these forums and can't quite figure it out. Will it just be as simple as the .232 flash? I mean is it worth going to .235 on my en route Bionic and loading all of my apps and investing the hours required in getting it perfect? Or will it all just be one waste of time? I know that the final release will be an OTA, so I'm assuming that .905 will need to be in the mix at some point hence the confusion....
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You will need to flash the .905 fxz file in order to receive the OTA. There are a couple ways of doing that. The most failsafe way would be to do it using RSD Lite, however that will wipe all of your data and basically return your phone to a like-new state. The other main way is to use SamuriHL's House of Bionic program/script. It uses a modified version of the fxz file that will not wipe your data. You can use it to return to .905 and install the OTA in the normal way, by checking for updates and letting it install once it is available. You can also use it if you download the OTA when it is released and basically do it the same way you updated to .232. When the OTA is released, I'm sure he'll put together a new version of HoB that includes it, so that the whole process is fairly well automated. There's no saying when exactly the OTA will be ready, but for now just enjoy your ice cream sandwich.
When I mention that it will not wipe your data, that means that all of your apps and whatnot will remain intact. In any case, I don't recommend updating to .235, I have it and can't tell much difference between that and the .232 leak, and the .232 leak has a safe route back to stock, whereas .235 doesn't, so it's definitely not worth the risk. If you're happy with it without rooting, then by all means keep it that way, rooting means it's just easier to mess things up.
i want to go back to ics. the jelly bean downsides are becoming a pain right now. what exactly would happen if i just reflashed with ics stock? will it brick and will it be recoverable? can anyone explain in depth the issue regarding this? or will i have to put my phone up for sale and obtain a replacement that still has ics?
the jb performance has been cool but i had everything working perfectly on ics. and the jb update is just significantly less than perfect for my setup and app needs. serves me right for rushing for the latest update i guess. but ive got to go back to ics. jb reminds me of windows millenium edition.
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Sorry you aren't enjoying the upgrade. I'll throw out the obligatory suggestion of performing a factory reset on your phone if you haven't already done so since the upgrade. This will allow your phone to clear out old ics data and use pure jb. However, for some people, updates truly do kill their experience and that's a personal thing.
With official updates from Motorola, our devices also receive a new kernel in addition to a new version of android. JB uses a newer kernel than ICS, just as ICS used a newer one than Gingerbread. Unfortunately, because our devices have locked bootloaders, you cannot go back to the ICS kernel, meaning you can not downgrade. Trying to fastboot back will result in a brick, most likely permanent.
At this point, you would need to get a replacement still running ICS if you truly want to downgrade. Alternately, considering using custom roms, which at this point are all JB based, but far superior to the Motorola "Blur" version found on stock phones.
Sorry!
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thanks. looks like this d4 is going up for sale. i did the factory resets when i did the update. but some apps i really like dont work on on jb. id designated them lifelong companion apps. so jb being unable to run them means jb has got to go. my d4 completely suited my needs untilt this update. now it's incomplete. and without moto allowing the bootloader to be unlocked means athe d4 was just destroyed by this update imho.
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Have you thought of emailing the app developers and asking them to update them to support JB?
Any and every new phone coming will be based on JB so that limits you to buying older, unsupported devices which will make newer apps as they come out unavailable to you.
thanks but i dont NEED anything else. this thing is totally unreliable. its not storing profiles and settings in some apps so i have to readd login details etc every time i launch the program, others forceclose to homescreen after launching without an error.
i thought about the email option.. but thereve been so many ppl clamouring about them since last summer im not putting any hope on that. i think they really screwed up with jb and took a few steps backwards. unfortunate but this d4 has got to go. cant sell it fast enough right now.
im really happy with the d4. dont see any need to upgrade for the next 10 yrs. great phone/multifunction device. ill buy 3 and keep em on ics with backup parts etc for repairs.
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Sorry you aren't enjoying the upgrade. I'll throw out the obligatory suggestion of performing a factory reset on your phone if you haven't already done so since the upgrade. This will allow your phone to clear out old ics data and use pure jb. However, for some people, updates truly do kill their experience and that's a personal thing.
With official updates from Motorola, our devices also receive a new kernel in addition to a new version of android. JB uses a newer kernel than ICS, just as ICS used a newer one than Gingerbread. Unfortunately, because our devices have locked bootloaders, you cannot go back to the ICS kernel, meaning you can not downgrade. Trying to fastboot back will result in a brick, most likely permanent.
At this point, you would need to get a replacement still running ICS if you truly want to downgrade. Alternately, considering using custom roms, which at this point are all JB based, but far superior to the Motorola "Blur" version found on stock phones.
Sorry!
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Or maybe flash one of the ICS kexec ROMs? Not sure if it would work butttt possible. I may just try it myself so I can play order and chaos again.
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Have you factory reset your device (Settings/Privacy/Factory data reset) since taking the update to JB?
Apps should be retaining their configurations (logins, etc..) and the phone should be smoother/faster than when it was on JB.
More than likely since the update patched the ICS system files to bring them to JB versions...something is causing issues from the updating. I'd definitely try a factory reset and reconfigure your phone. It may just be needing a proper reset/setup...
Imagine a Windows PC running Windows XP being "upgraded" to Windows 7 vs. another identical PC with a fresh install of Windows 7. The fresh install W7 will run much better compared to the patched/updated XP-W7.
If you haven't factory reset your device in a while....it's gone from GB, patched to ICS then patched to JB....or Windows 95 patched to XP then patched to W7.
yeah i factory reset twice during initial upgrade and setup all from scratch. at first a couple programs cudnt run and found out they dont work with jb and everyones hoping for an upgrade that seems abandoned by the developer. that was.. bearable slightly if i could find alternatives. but im yet to find satisfactory alternatives to any of them. my guitar chord and scales program wont run anymore. its installed but wont show in the app drawer so i cant launch or uninstall it. lbe privacy throws the fone into a bootloop. motoprint was removed in jb and i loved it. i found an alternative called send2print.. it works is all ill say about that. but overall its just a pain in the rear now. i liked how i never had to worry about anything before. everything just worked. so thanks for the input guys but this phone is going. already put it up for sale.
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Hi on my work to unbrick the droid i have flash the ics via droid ics utility but it dosend start i think it ist the kernel becouse if you are on JB you don't get ics roms to work but with the kexec kernel it's working so I think if we get the ics kernel working we get ics back
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