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Doesnt the fact there is no Micro SD slot in the Touch Diamond bug the hell out of anyone?
I understand the Pro will have a slot, but its as thick as hell. I like the slimness of the Diamond.
How are you existing Diamond users coping with the limited storage?
darthbane2k said:
Doesnt the fact there is no Micro SD slot in the Touch Diamond bug the hell out of anyone?
I understand the Pro will have a slot, but its as thick as hell. I like the slimness of the Diamond.
How are you existing Diamond users coping with the limited storage?
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Doesn't bug me a bit.
I use the TD as navigator (2GB of maps), and some other programs. I wouldn't know what for I would need the extra memory. It sucks bigtime using these sort of WM devices as music player, so no memory needed for that.
The slimness of the TD is worth far more than the optional slot. I'm amazed of how much fits inside this device as it is already. For some people this means a trade-off between device versus memory size.
I think this has been discussed over and over again, even before the official launch date.
You have to make choices between style, usability etc. What do you demand? For me 4 GB is far enough. Other people think of 4 GB as a laughter. So make up yourself what u think about it. I'm happy
since i dontplan to put any music or movies on my phone, 4gb is more then enough
most people who it bugs the hell out of are waiting for the pro so we dont have a problem here -_-
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Read somewhere that HTC is releasing ten new mobiles 'till the end of 2008. Absolutely amazing. I bet (more I hope and pray) that amongst them there'll be an updated Diamond with microSD - or at least that HTC creates a special adapter to allow us to increase memory. I know that internally the Diamond is ready for that. Is just needs to be ROM-activated to unable us to have 8 or even 16 GB.
^i read that too...so i dont know would you wait or buy the touch pro =\?!
what bugs the hell out of me is threads like these.
The Touch Pro is too fat for my liking. I will definitely not aproach it! The Compact IV will do me nicely for now - that's the why I'm going for it instead of the Diamond. The savings will be put aside for a Diamond with a microSD 16GB (by then probably even 32GB) card slot. Brrrrrr
I'm waiting for someone brave to open up the diamond and try fitting more storage capacity!!
I've come from a 16gb iPhone to this - so most of my music / videos are remaining on my PC
However - withe the poor battery life, I doubt I'd be listening to much music on the diamond anyway!
i dont want to be one of those suckers that buys a phone right before a better one is released. Like how i bought the N73 and then right after the N73ME was released then the N95. =\
to wait or not to wait..that is the question...
billybobjones said:
^i read that too...so i dont know would you wait or buy the touch pro =\?!
what bugs the hell out of me is threads like these.
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Then why are you here?
I mean really, theres no need to act like such a jerk. With all due respect..
^^ to discuss the touch pro of course
I mean really, theres no need to act like a whiny brat. With all due respect..
The big cheeses at HTC HQ reckon that a micro SD slot would add 2mm (yes, 2mm!) to the chassis. C'mon, I can live with that. Don't mention the obese Touch Pro, please. I really do thing that a 2mm fatter Diamond will be on its way very, very soon. The Diamond already beats the iPhone in all other departments. The last bit it needs is a slot. The 16gb microSD is on its way - in fact I hope both of them will be outted at the same time. Look at the sudden fall in price for a 8gb microSD. The 16gb microSD is coming and HTC will not (fingers crossed) miss the boat.
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i dont want to be one of those suckers that buys a phone right before a better one is released. Like how i bought the N73 and then right after the N73ME was released then the N95. =\
to wait or not to wait..that is the question...
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Dude, you can wait forever then. A phone is old when it comes out.
It's quite easy: get to know what you need and what you wanna do with it.
I did it, the Diamond was available, it suits my needs, and now I don't care if there are going to be pro-pro-pro versions of it.
In fact, I get the newest phone in about 2 years again, when this one is old. That phone will be old just 6 months after that but WTH?
Just like now, got the diamond on the 8th of june and seem to be one of the first to have one.
And adding 2mm yes really would be too fat for me.
THis phone is awesome in thickness and can be carried with me like I have a normal phone instead of that poor friend of mine with his Hermes, like getting a really strong arm holding that hump to his ear
darthbane2k said:
Doesnt the fact there is no Micro SD slot in the Touch Diamond bug the hell out of anyone?
I understand the Pro will have a slot, but its as thick as hell. I like the slimness of the Diamond.
How are you existing Diamond users coping with the limited storage?
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Exactly!! Was thinking the same thing! I mean come on.. seriously. Example: Phone comes with GPS. Hence using a Tomtom / Garmin map would easily take up 1/3 of your 4gb.
If Touch Diamond were to have an external expansion slot. OMG it will be THE PHONE to own...!
I surprised they just didn't put an 8gb chip in it as an absolute minimum as the price of them now are really cheap.
Just using the latest TomTom 7.20 map takes up 1.84gb, so that's almost have the storage gone already.
4gb these days is pretty low.
I am confused which one to buy?
I love WP7 but I'm unsure which of those 3 smartphones to buy.
I hope there will be Zune HD2 and in that case I can have the iphone 4 and an experience of WP7.
Give me your opinions please.
I'm going with the Focus. I've been looking forward to have a phone with a nice 4" AMOLED screen. It only has 8GB internal, but is expandable via MicroSD to 40GB. Plus it has 512MB of RAM so it should be pretty good.
If I was on T-mobile I would go with the HD7, but AT&T is not getting that one. The Surround looks nice, but the focus is thinner and I don't need the speakers. I originally wanted the iPhone 4 when it came out but I was not available for upgrade. And now that I've seen WP7, I'm glad they wouldn't let me upgrade
Personally I would give it a while before making a decision. wp7 is new and probably troublesome. and besides there will be very few programs until it matures a bit...
Whats stopping you from getting an android phone?
Two things attract me towards Focus
1). 1500 mAh battery (HTC giving only 1200 mAh)
2). microSD slot (which I think WinMo7 is forbidding OEMs, somehow Samsung has got the signal)
WP7 supports "extra" memory but not "expandable/removable" memory. If you put in a SD card it will require a hard reset. If you want to upgrade your SD card in the future it will take a hard reset. No big deal if you ask me, I'll probably put in an extra 32GB on day one and be done with it.
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WP7 supports "extra" memory but not "expandable/removable" memory. If you put in a SD card it will require a hard reset. If you want to upgrade your SD card in the future it will take a hard reset. No big deal if you ask me, I'll probably put in an extra 32GB on day one and be done with it.
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That sounds a lot better than my initial impression of not being able to expand memory size at all. A bit of an odd requirement, but no different than a phone with an SD card slot underneath the battery.
Between the HD7 or the Focus, you simply have to ask yourself if you prefer the deep blacks and vibrant colors of the Focus or the larger screen of the HD7. Will all come down to personal preference. I've got a Captivate right now and I'd love a 4.3" device, but it's going to be hard to give up the Super AMOLED.
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That sounds a lot better than my initial impression of not being able to expand memory size at all. A bit of an odd requirement, but no different than a phone with an SD card slot underneath the battery.
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I think the reason for the non user replaceable SD cards is due to microsoft wanting to control the file system without user intervention. From their perspective it makes the device safer to manage.
Being able to upgrade the SD card is purely for OEMs hence the reason why it resets the device. The average user wont attempt to upgrade their cards, but it's great to see power users having this ability.
I also think it will vary from OEM to OEM how this is implimented. I cant see HTC making it easily available to users to upgrade so my hat goes of to Samsung for allowing it.
Maybe in the future most OEMS will offer a "one-time-upgrade" at time of purchase or when you buy every OEM has mutltiple options available, they just slip in a card before dispatch.
Anyway, my first WP7 phone is the HD7, my faithful HD2 is on it's last legs and due early retirement. I don't think I could go back to anything smaller.
This time next year I think the WP7 landscape will look completely different with more choice of phones per network (O2 UK currently only offer the HD7), I'll review the replacement for the HD7 again then.
I would love to see a way to get more memory out of this thing. The 8GB isn't quite 6GB in reality and I can't fit all my games(modern combat 3, CS Portable, GTA 3, Asphalt 6 and Real Racing 2).
I have considered getting a thumb drive or something to connect to the micro usb port but then I thought it would be cleaner with a case and possible a SD/micro sd slot instead of just a thumb drive. Would also be nice to see a charging port on the case as well.
If that case existed it would cost at least 50$ so I guess you could sell the one you got now on ebay for the price you got it to a couentry that hasn't the tablet yet and buy the 16gb version.
You just can't go wrong and it's far more convenient.
Get a thin OTG cable, buy a SD card reader (or microSD, depending on which is thinner), plug it into your tablet and find a way to hide the wires into your case. A blurex case or some other big and bulky case may do the work of easily hiding the cable.
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Get a thin OTG cable, buy a SD card reader (or microSD, depending on which is thinner), plug it into your tablet and find a way to hide the wires into your case. A blurex case or some other big and bulky case may do the work of easily hiding the cable.
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This was my thought at first but I doubt mine would be good enough to remove everytime I need to charge up, and that leads to more complications but I have seen the cell phone upgrades for ipod touch's that are built into the case so an SD card reader built into a case the size of a tablet could be done sleekly aside from a hump @ the USB port and maybe a hump at the charging port.
Just figure if I put this information out there it might get picked up and produced for not only the nexus 7, I believe there is a market as memory needs will always grow.
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If that case existed it would cost at least 50$ so I guess you could sell the one you got now on ebay for the price you got it to a couentry that hasn't the tablet yet and buy the 16gb version.
You just can't go wrong and it's far more convenient.
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I was originally going to take it back but my mom bought it off of me and for $250 I might as well spend $100 more for a TF300 with 32GB memory, micro sd slot, 8MP decent rear cam, 10" screen and same processor setup with better screen and TV out. The TF300 is thinner feeling and much higher quality IMO.
The SD card slot will also go up to 32GB and I believe there are 64GB SD cards out now for fairly cheap($60) compared to the cost of on board memory. 16GB is just barely enough to run my games and then if I wanted my mp3's or movies for on the go it's 32GB+
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I was originally going to take it back but my mom bought it off of me and for $250 I might as well spend $100 more for a TF300 with 32GB memory, micro sd slot, 8MP decent rear cam, 10" screen and same processor setup with better screen and TV out. The TF300 is thinner feeling and much higher quality IMO.
The SD card slot will also go up to 32GB and I believe there are 64GB SD cards out now for fairly cheap($60) compared to the cost of on board memory. 16GB is just barely enough to run my games and then if I wanted my mp3's or movies for on the go it's 32GB+
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I wouldn't recommend the TF line. I have the prime and between the prime, tf300 and tf700 they all seem to have the same IO problems even heavily modded. Jelly bean might have helped it but I'm not positive.
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hax0red said:
I was originally going to take it back but my mom bought it off of me and for $250 I might as well spend $100 more for a TF300 with 32GB memory, micro sd slot, 8MP decent rear cam, 10" screen and same processor setup with better screen and TV out. The TF300 is thinner feeling and much higher quality IMO.
The SD card slot will also go up to 32GB and I believe there are 64GB SD cards out now for fairly cheap($60) compared to the cost of on board memory. 16GB is just barely enough to run my games and then if I wanted my mp3's or movies for on the go it's 32GB+
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I do feel you on your need for space really but the thing I tried to tell you is that those 8gb for 50$ will make your life way easier than expecting manufacturers to do what you want and then pay a lot of green to have that bulky solution.
If you have enough with the 6gb you have left of memory just for apps I'd just root it and get the extra you need for media of the many USB sticks you may have at home. But really if you think your best solution is these type of covers then I hope you will find them soon.
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Pay the 50$ and get the 16gb. Worth it! But a case would be kewl..
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I do feel you on your need for space really but the thing I tried to tell you is that those 8gb for 50$ will make your life way easier than expecting manufacturers to do what you want and then pay a lot of green to have that bulky solution.
If you have enough with the 6gb you have left of memory just for apps I'd just root it and get the extra you need for media of the many USB sticks you may have at home. But really if you think your best solution is these type of covers then I hope you will find them soon.
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I think it's in everyone's best interest. This gimmick could set a case apart and double it's value with $2 in parts. Hard to beat $10 for 16GB memory stick that ADDS to the 8GB I would have.
As I said, this is really no longer my problem but she wanted me to download videos to it and I noticed it's not even near 8GB of space stock, more like 5.8. So that $50 would get what? 11-12GB? no thanks again.
Not sure about the I/O problems I played with a TF300 at bestbuy and it was holding 60FPS solid in CS Portable while the Nexus 7 hangs around 45-55 and does it looking like crap(washed out, light bleeding, tons of dead pixels) but my mom doesn't care, I did when it came to dishing out another $50 for 11-12GB.
Think I might order one of these for $15 just to have around:
http://usb.brando.com/eagletec-usb-nanosac-micro-sd-card-reader_p00905c031d15.html
It may squeeze between a stretchy case and the back of the tablet. Would like to find a OTG cable that has a Y for charging but I haven't seen one yet. I also just found another possible strike for the Nexus 7:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6061/mhl-and-usbotg-on-the-nexus-7-mounting-usb-storage-not-supported
Seems like they tried to really lock down the memory and restrict the device to streaming. Sounds a lot like an apple thing to do, I mean seriously at this point apple starts sounding competitive again since Android really isn't nearly as plush or refined.
hic9582 said:
I wouldn't recommend the TF line. I have the prime and between the prime, tf300 and tf700 they all seem to have the same IO problems even heavily modded. Jelly bean might have helped it but I'm not positive.
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I dunno, my cousin has the TF300 and its nice. I had the original TF100 and loved it. I went with the N7 because of the processor upgrade and 7" form factor. I haven't heard many complaints with the TF300 or newer. The prime seemed to have issues but it was their first tegra3.
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hax0red said:
I think it's in everyone's best interest. This gimmick could set a case apart and double it's value with $2 in parts. Hard to beat $10 for 16GB memory stick that ADDS to the 8GB I would have.
As I said, this is really no longer my problem but she wanted me to download videos to it and I noticed it's not even near 8GB of space stock, more like 5.8. So that $50 would get what? 11-12GB? no thanks again.
Not sure about the I/O problems I played with a TF300 at bestbuy and it was holding 60FPS solid in CS Portable while the Nexus 7 hangs around 45-55 and does it looking like crap(washed out, light bleeding, tons of dead pixels) but my mom doesn't care, I did when it came to dishing out another $50 for 11-12GB.
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It's about 13.4 GB free with the 16 GB model. And maybe yours is just a defective unit. I'm getting 60fps and I don't have light bleed or dead pixels.
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It's about 13.4 GB free with the 16 GB model. And maybe yours is just a defective unit. I'm getting 60fps and I don't have light bleed or dead pixels.
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I have seen 3 with the problem so far. One custom rom(mine) and two stock roms. All have similar FPS and problems with screen. Light bleed is on everything IMO so yours having none is impossible. The dead pixels aren't dead so much as stuck during certain colors. You need to use a dead pixel tester to really notice, trust me it's there. Edit: seems the bleeding is very common. http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...k-your-nexus-7-tablet-backlight-bleeding.html
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I have seen 3 with the problem so far. One custom rom(mine) and two stock roms. All have similar FPS and problems with screen. Light bleed is on everything IMO so yours having none is impossible. The dead pixels aren't dead so much as stuck during certain colors. You need to use a dead pixel tester to really notice, trust me it's there. Edit: seems the bleeding is very common. http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...k-your-nexus-7-tablet-backlight-bleeding.html
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LOL, you've seen three with light bleed, so it's impossible for anyone not to have it?
I ran through the tests in that post and found no issues at all.
Would love to see something like this, at the moment I'm just relying on a 32GB Cruzer Fit drive. Pretty compact for the size.
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LOL, you've seen three with light bleed, so it's impossible for anyone not to have it?
I ran through the tests in that post and found no issues at all.
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All LED backlit devices have light bleed to the point you can see with brightness turned all the way up then look in the corners. I haven't had a LED back lit display on a phone, tablet or TV that didn't have some. Albeit, it's minimal on most phones these days tablets are big enough to display it clearly like "most" nexus 7's, maybe you have a freak. But how do we conclude? I would average out the results and by that point most will agree the nexus 7 has terrible light bleed. Excluding yours of course.
Would love to see a case like this too.
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I have seen 3 with the problem so far. One custom rom(mine) and two stock roms. All have similar FPS and problems with screen. Light bleed is on everything IMO so yours having none is impossible. The dead pixels aren't dead so much as stuck during certain colors. You need to use a dead pixel tester to really notice, trust me it's there. Edit: seems the bleeding is very common. http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...k-your-nexus-7-tablet-backlight-bleeding.html
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Well, I don't have any stuck or dead pixels but you're right. When I look closely there is a tiny bit of light bleed. Not really noticeable though.
Is it somehow possible to "add" this part inside the original case ? Then wire it and glue it ?
I know the more practical solution is a otg cable and and usb stick or adapter but why not pimping the nexus directly.
I would add a
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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And while the case is already open i am thinking to add what is inside this:
UMTS HSDPA HSUPA UMTS USB Surfstick Datenstick Stick ZTE MF112 7,2Mbps ADSL Modem
Just i am not sure if it will work and where exactly there is place inside the case and how to wire it. Just an idea how it might work. Any thoughts ?
I've had my Note since November 2011 (well a Note as I lost one and proceeded to buy another one). I still love the phone, the screen size is great and the white Note still gets a lot of attention over a year later (most people call it or actually think it's the mini ipad). Well I just successfully ordered a 16gb Nexus 4, now I am trying to decide if I will give it as a gift and keep the note or try something new. Does anyone have both and can tell me the pros and cons?
I like the Notes screen size, sd card slot, TW and honestly that it's still a unique device however I like the specs on the Nexus 4, NFC, wireless charging, and LED light. I feel the note is actually better looking than the Nexus and although I heard the Nexus has great build quality it will just got lost in the sea of black phones versus my white Note. I am not too concerned with the 16gb, I used to have a 16gb iphone and never ran out of space. I honestly am torn, I am not sure if some of the new features outweigh the screen size, uniqueness, and TW? Any other opinions? I realize they will be bias in the Note section.
Also any comparison on cameras, I love how great the pictures come out on my Note in the dark. My friends with iphone 4 and iphone 4s always want me to use my camera since it takes such better pictures than their phones when the flash is on, I wonder how the nexus 4 camera compares to the original Note camera?
BTW don't care about removeable battery or the spen, I barely ever use it.
I suffer from a severe upgradeitis, and since Nexus 4 is actually affordable (which couldn't be said about the GNex), I am jumping ship and getting myself one. I will probably suffer because of the smaller screen (I really got fond of Note's size), and I loathe the lack of microSD slot, but I love everything else about the N4.
I am with the N4...
You'll suffer for:
smaller screen
less vivid colors
lower quality of the camera
spen (if you use it frequently)
You'll like:
Google updates
smaller screen (will let you use it with one hand)
your wallet
led notifications
project butter full compliancy
impressive response
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I've had my Note since November 2011 (well a Note as I lost one and proceeded to buy another one). I still love the phone, the screen size is great and the white Note still gets a lot of attention over a year later (most people call it or actually think it's the mini ipad). Well I just successfully ordered a 16gb Nexus 4, now I am trying to decide if I will give it as a gift and keep the note or try something new. Does anyone have both and can tell me the pros and cons?
I like the Notes screen size, sd card slot, TW and honestly that it's still a unique device however I like the specs on the Nexus 4, NFC, wireless charging, and LED light. I feel the note is actually better looking than the Nexus and although I heard the Nexus has great build quality it will just got lost in the sea of black phones versus my white Note. I am not too concerned with the 16gb, I used to have a 16gb iphone and never ran out of space. I honestly am torn, I am not sure if some of the new features outweigh the screen size, uniqueness, and TW? Any other opinions? I realize they will be bias in the Note section.
Also any comparison on cameras, I love how great the pictures come out on my Note in the dark. My friends with iphone 4 and iphone 4s always want me to use my camera since it takes such better pictures than their phones when the flash is on, I wonder how the nexus 4 camera compares to the original Note camera?
BTW don't care about removeable battery or the spen, I barely ever use it.
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I was thinking about getting one, but i don't like the hardware. Smaller screen and it's actually thinner than the Note, but it looks like a damn brick. Most of you don't care about these things, but i do
My Nexus 4 arrives December 10th. For me, I'm going to miss the screen the most on the Note which I still think is one of the nicest to look at. My wife has the One X which everyone tells me is the best display on a phone, but we both prefer the colours and general impression of the Note, even if they are unnatural.
Biggest reason for the purchase is that I'm tired of Samsung's BS with software updates and closed-source platform. I want the latest version of Android when it's released, not months later. I use aosp anyway, have never liked TW.
Things I expect to like about the Nexus are the smaller size (I don't know why but after a year of having the Note I'm starting to find its size prohibitive more often than I used to) , LED notification, proper Butter, software updates and general speed.
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None of you is bothered by the lack of an SD card slot? To me, this is definitely a showstopper along with the non-removable battery (iPhone style for the lose).
My main concern about the Nexus 4 is that it is just generic Android. I don't like the bloat around the other implementations such as TouchWiz, but there's a couple of dealbreaker bugs in stock Android that Samsung, HTC etc have fixed. I don't know why Google haven't.
In particular the Email client can't work with Exchange when offline. Deleting emails on the device leaves them all on the server still, even after connection is established and sync run. Makes it pretty useless for managing emails on a commute. Samsung, HTC and even Motorola have fixed this problem, but it's still in the base Android and has been since at least ICS and possibly HC. Google don't seem interested.
It gets even worse with Imap, where it puts all the emails you've deleted back on the device once you sync. Again HTC and Motorola have fixed this, although Samsung has this problem.
Seems a basic issue, but means I won't recommend these devices for corporate use until it is fixed.
Nick
I don't care about non-removable battery, I only take out my battery if I need to access my SIM or SD card, so not a big deal for me.
Lack of SD slot and puny internal memory is a bummer for sure, but I've decided I can live with that. In return, I get stock android experience without the need of using custom ROMs (and let's face it - while CM10 for the Note is awesome, it has its issues), I'm always up to speed with new Android releases (instead of waiting for CM to catch up), awesome hjardware, and great looks. Fair tradeoff in my opinion. I will mourn the lack of SD slot and lack of FM Radio, but I'll deal with it. I got my Note last year only because it was carrier-subsided, and I couldn't afford to buy an unlocked GNex.
Got the phone in, so far I rooted it. I need to play around with it for a bit before I decide which phone I want to keep.
Yes I bought 3 nexus 4 mobile phones really amazing phones hyper fast feels good gonna rom it rip it root it to the max.... This baby will blast off!!!!
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I too have the nexus 4
Sold my galaxy note
And yes there's a difference in size but you get use to it
It's amazingly fast and already with 4.2.1
I'm rented by the price but lack of micro sd ruins it. Out of the 16 gig you will be lucky to have access to 11gig, as with other phones. I love my music and have a lot of roms on board so 11g is nothing.
From the man in your attic...
Can I just ask around a question, real quick. What's all that speed for? (casual) gaming?
Nexus 4 for me is the Android version of an iPhone, and unfortunately I am not meaning it as a compliment. As someone already stated in this topic, no sd card, no removable battery just means that if you want to take lots of pictures, videos, get your off-line Navigation with the entire Europe Maps (about 3.7GB) on your device there is not much left for anything else. I have seen a review where they state that only 12,3GB are available for the end user. That might be OK for some people, but I am not one of them.
Another thing is that if you want to use it a gamers phone, with this storage and HD games now available you will be able to get 3, maybe 4 big games in it, which is not something I would call ground breaking.
Last but not least, the battery in the phone will loose its charge over time. I am not a type of person to carry with me extra batteries and swap them around, but after some time everyone notices that their battery is not what it used to be. Specially when you want to buy / sell a second hand phone, being able to change the battery for a new one and enjoy your phone as when it was unpacked is something that Nexus 4 users will not be able to experience without getting their hands dirty and probably voiding the warranty of the device.
Sound Problems?
Does anyone here suffer from the Earpiece Defect in Nexus 4 that got mentioned in Mashable?
http://mashable.com/2012/11/25/google-nexus-4-defect/
Kortxero said:
None of you is bothered by the lack of an SD card slot? To me, this is definitely a showstopper along with the non-removable battery (iPhone style for the lose).
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I know the OP doesn't care, but for me this is the showstopper (which would only change if a reasonably priced 64gb model came out). As others have said, this is the iPhone of Androids, and not in a good way. The lack of removable battery gets me as well as I use my phone so much that I need either two batteries or an extended battery.
But the pros are Butter, good updates etc. But personally ill stick with the Note until the Note 3 (or something better arrives), mainly through choice than cost.
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Does anyone here suffer from the Earpiece Defect in Nexus 4 that got mentioned in Mashable?
http://mashable.com/2012/11/25/google-nexus-4-defect/
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Well, I have a the distortion going on. Like, for the quality of the speaker to be good and not have any type of audio artifact, I need to keep the volume at 30% at all times. Anything higher, and certain pitches starts distorting/cracking. I guess one "fix" for this would be to change the kernel code to restrict the volume range of the speaker so that the maximum would be much lower. It could be the case that the kernel is actually overdriving the speaker module which results in the distortion. Whatever it is, it is definitely annoying to hear the edges of a person's voice gets distorted.
It's like they opted to use the cheapest POS speaker module they could find with an extremely limited range. The speaker on the Galaxy Note is a world better.
I have both....the screen size is something to get used to without a doubt. It is so tiny, but it is bearable. The constant updates from Google makes this phone worth it seeing how Samsung is a POS when it comes to releasing sources.
I'm also seeing some banding on the screen. Not sure if it's because of the screen or due to the image used (low bit).
I have an RMA on the way soon and will compare how the newer unit fares.
As NickC42 pointed out, I don't like stock Google android for few of these nitpicking stuffs -
1. Does not support speed dial? Hello Google!!??
2. Email/Calendar clients are white background black text. Why can't they have optional reverse color?
3. Oh I didn't know about those Exchange Email annoyances - total dealbreaker.
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willstay said:
As NickC42 pointed out, I don't like stock Google android for few of these nitpicking stuffs -
1. Does not support speed dial? Hello Google!!??
2. Email/Calendar clients are white background black text. Why can't they have optional reverse color?
3. Oh I didn't know about those Exchange Email annoyances - total dealbreaker.
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1.Install custom rom/mod
2.Install inverted gapps
3.No single issue with exchange.
All this can be solved in 10 mniutes. This is Android. Want everything out of the box? Buy iPhone.
My reasoning was why I do not like stock Android aka Nexus. If I have to install custom ROM, it defeats purpose of buying a Nexus device.
Edited: Ask yourself ahalford why do people buy Nexus device? Because they get update from God Google on day one. What is use of that update if it never fixes few of the basic things?
Edited 2: Maybe you have iPhone hidden inside your secret stash and know it enough to recommend to other people. How about giving us out of the box experience one gets from iPhone?
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I've seen a lot of ppl complaining about the storage capacity lately on the S4, it is understandable for us to install best looking games which takes up a lot of space and in less than you know it your internal storage will be full, it happened to me once.
I've found a solution to this, since apps cannot be normally store in external sd card well normally your sd card would solve this, but I've found an app called "FolderMount" for free on the play store, what this will do is move and mount the games/apk data from your internal to your external card being able to store many apps/games in the external card while having the internal sd card free of space.
Hopefully this will help some people out there struggling with internal space.
P.s. : This app of course requires root.
Also if you knew this, is ok don't spam me lol I'm just trying to help out some1 who might have this issue, thanks.
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Rasmux said:
I've seen a lot of ppl complaining about the storage capacity lately on the S4, it is understandable for us to install best looking games which takes up a lot of space and in less than you know it your internal storage will be full, it happened to me once.
I've found a solution to this, since apps cannot be normally store in external sd card well normally your sd card would solve this, but I've found an app called "FolderMount" for free on the play store, what this will do is move and mount the games/apk data from your internal to your external card being able to store many apps/games in the external card while having the internal sd card free of space.
Hopefully this will help some people out there struggling with internal space.
P.s. : This app of course requires root.
Also if you knew this, is ok don't spam me lol I'm just trying to help out some1 who might have this issue, thanks.
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No spam. There's a how to on foldermount AND link2sd written by me in my sig.
rawintellect said:
No spam. There's a how to on foldermount AND link2sd written by me in my sig.
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I don't see your sig, and I couldn't get link2sd working on this device!
gershee said:
I don't see your sig, and I couldn't get link2sd working on this device!
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go here
I paid for this app last week. It works great!
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I am waiting for the possibility of a sprint 32gb s4 because my upgrade date is June 1. I suppose those of you that already have a s4 would have gotten a 32gb knowing then what you know now? What are your thoughts? Apply this hack or play the wait and see game for a larger capacity s4? I am fairly certain sprint won't carry the 64gb, but I'm hoping they will eventually get the 32. If they don't, then maybe I will wait and see what the note 3 is all about.
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I am waiting for the possibility of a sprint 32gb s4 because my upgrade date is June 1. I suppose those of you that already have a s4 would have gotten a 32gb knowing then what you know now? What are your thoughts? Apply this hack or play the wait and see game for a larger capacity s4? I am fairly certain sprint won't carry the 64gb, but I'm hoping they will eventually get the 32. If they don't, then maybe I will wait and see what the note 3 is all about.
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Not for $100 more, I wouldn't have. The hacks works well enough for me. The only app I've used it on though is Google Music. The rest of my apps/data etc only come out to 3.44GB of system storage so far, music comes to up 10GB on 16GB (aka 14.83GB) SD card, so for me the 32GB version is not worth the extra cost. Additionally, because I run Linux I've been having a ton of problems with the MTP connectivity even after installing the "Google-made" packages specifically for Android devices. It's easier to transfer items by removing the SD card and inserting it, than trying to connect and transfer items using the MTP connection.
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Not for $100 more, I wouldn't have. The hacks works well enough for me. The only app I've used it on though is Google Music. The rest of my apps/data etc only come out to 3.44GB of system storage so far, music comes to up 10GB on 16GB (aka 14.83GB) SD card, so for me the 32GB version is not worth the extra cost. Additionally, because I run Linux I've been having a ton of problems with the MTP connectivity even after installing the "Google-made" packages specifically for Android devices. It's easier to transfer items by removing the SD card and inserting it, than trying to connect and transfer items using the MTP connection.
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I'm running linux as well and I don't have any problems connecting my phone to PC via USB cable.
What distro are you running?
I'm on 64bit Linux Mint14 cinnamon.
I had some connectivity issues wit my S3 with previous versions of linux but Mint14 took care of it and S4 is connecting just fine as well.
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I'm running linux as well and I don't have any problems connecting my phone to PC via USB cable.
What distro are you running?
I'm on 64bit Linux Mint14 cinnamon.
I had some connectivity issues wit my S3 with previous versions of linux but Mint14 took care of it and S4 is connecting just fine as well.
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Ahhh, I'm still on Mint 13. Guess I'll make sure to update to Mint 15 since it's just around the corner! Thanks.
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I'm running linux as well and I don't have any problems connecting my phone to PC via USB cable.
What distro are you running?
I'm on 64bit Linux Mint14 cinnamon.
I had some connectivity issues wit my S3 with previous versions of linux but Mint14 took care of it and S4 is connecting just fine as well.
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Same here, Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon with no issues. And I also would not drop another $100 for more internal storage
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I've got a 64gb sdxc in my e4gt just waiting to be utilized in a s4. I might give it until July or August to see of they ever get the 32's out. It's a given 64's won't come stateside. I'm not saying anyone is wrong but I highly doubt 16 to 32 will be a 100 dollar jump. Maybe, I'm guessing, 50 at the most. Anything over 300 is my limit for upgrade price unless it's a spectacular piece of hardware. Just a wait and see game as usual. I'm afraid the active will be different enough to not be popular enough for the dev scene to have root and recovery, let alone having much of a selection of after market stuff like batteries and cases. I want protection of a case for extended batteries like the e4gt. I hope someone offers a decent tpu case for the bigger battery too. I saw a pic of the battery cover for the big battery for the s4 and it wreaks of crappy quality. Thin and ugly. I also know another alternative could be getting a second OEM battery with external charger. Just swap out when needed. Has anyone determined the hooks on the body and cover are like the s3 in which they need to be snapped together in a certain order, lest it damages the snaps? I never had a s3 but did see the video about how easy it is to damage the cover if installed incorrectly.
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I've got a 64gb sdxc in my e4gt just waiting to be utilized in a s4. I might give it until July or August to see of they ever get the 32's out. It's a given 64's won't come stateside. I'm not saying anyone is wrong but I highly doubt 16 to 32 will be a 100 dollar jump. Maybe, I'm guessing, 50 at the most. Anything over 300 is my limit for upgrade price unless it's a spectacular piece of hardware. Just a wait and see game as usual. I'm afraid the active will be different enough to not be popular enough for the dev scene to have root and recovery, let alone having much of a selection of after market stuff like batteries and cases. I want protection of a case for extended batteries like the e4gt. I hope someone offers a decent tpu case for the bigger battery too. I saw a pic of the battery cover for the big battery for the s4 and it wreaks of crappy quality. Thin and ugly. I also know another alternative could be getting a second OEM battery with external charger. Just swap out when needed. Has anyone determined the hooks on the body and cover are like the s3 in which they need to be snapped together in a certain order, lest it damages the snaps? I never had a s3 but did see the video about how easy it is to damage the cover if installed incorrectly.
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Ive got an extra battery for the s4 with the battery charger and I gotta tell you I burn this phone's battery badly but I dont reach over 2 batteries in one day maximun I had was 50% left when I got home on the second battery I think is a better deal cuz all that bulk kinda looks ewww lol
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I don't care about the hump on the back as long as I have a good tpu case on it.