[Q] Bluetooth GPS and Galaxy Tab 2 7" - Galaxy Tab 2 Themes and Apps

Hi Everyone.
Does anyone tried to use external bluetooth GPS reciever with Galxy Tab 2 7" (P3110) with Bluetooth GPS App from Android market?
Also, do I need root for this app to run?
Marek.

Why use an external GPS when it has GPS built in?

As far as I know it has A-GPS.
Or maybe I'm wrong...

Lypse said:
As far as I know it has A-GPS.
Or maybe I'm wrong...
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A-GPS is better than GPS. It means GPS plus the ability to lock on quicker using Wifi and cell tower positioning.
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"Reliability: Location determined via A-GPS are slightly less accurate than GPS GPS devices can determine location coordinates to within 1 meter accuracy
Cost: It costs money to use A-GPS devices on an ongoing basis because they use mobile network resources. GPS devices communicate directly with satellites for free. There is no cost of operation once the device is paid for."
Checkout last 2 points about Reliability and Costs. As a wifi-only p3113 user, having the ability to connect to GPS sat (even with no internet) would be a HUGE plus. So I would love to know how this bluetooth workaround works!
(sorry i can't link to anything because I'm a new user)

"Reliability:Location determined via A-GPS are slightly less accurate than GPSGPS devices can determine location coordinates to within 1 meter accuracy
Cost:It costs money to use A-GPS devices on an ongoing basis because they use mobile network resources.GPS devices communicate directly with satellites for free. There is no cost of operation once the device is paid for."
Checkout last 2 points about Reliability and Costs. As a wifi-only p3113 user, having the ability to connect to GPS sat (even with no internet) would be a HUGE plus. So I would love to know how this bluetooth workaround works!
(sorry i can't link to anything because I'm a new user)
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Have you tried? With wifi off I lock on to GPS in 2 seconds. Offline maps navigation works perfect... what more do you want?
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Oh and from Wikipedia...
Assisted GPS, generally abbreviated as A-GPS or aGPS, is a system which can, under certain conditions, improve the startup performance, or time-to-first-fix (TTFF) of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. It is used extensively with GPS-capable cellular phones as its development was accelerated by the U.S. FCC's 911 mandate making the location of a cell phone available to emergency call dispatchers.
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Metallice said:
Have you tried? With wifi off I lock on to GPS in 2 seconds. Offline maps navigation works perfect... what more do you want?
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Well, instead of buying a GPS, I added some money and got a 7inch tablet P3113 also.
I have no tried offline GPS yet, how accurate is it? does re-direction work? which app would you recommend?
thank you

gunner05 said:
Well, instead of buying a GPS, I added some money and got a 7inch tablet P3113 also.
I have no tried offline GPS yet, how accurate is it? does re-direction work? which app would you recommend?
thank you
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Accurate enough? Yes redirection works. Google maps has an offline feature. Or you could try navfree.
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I love it when people are always confused about A-GPS.
A-GPS is BETTER than just GPS.
Assisted GPS means, that instead of just relying on the GPS satllites, it helps setting the position from WIFI and cell network.
It does NOT cost any money.
It is also handy, when you are indoors, so your device does not get a position fix from GPS satellites.
Besides, this samsung receives the Russian GLONASS satellites in addition to the American GPS, so its very precise.
My 10.1 tab2 (has the same receiver) sees 15+ satellites indoors!
GPS test shows precision down to 1m.
Bela

A-GPS need data connection
Hi, these posts are great to explain the difference between the A-GPS and regular GPS, but what happens if you do not have a data plan on your tablet and you are not in a wireless range. There is no way to activate the GPS.
The only way I have been able to use my no data Samsung 10.1 is to activate the GPS while in a wireless area then I can go for a drive (will always stay connected). If I would try to activiate the GPS on the road, I am out of luck.
Any work arounds?

Tether your phone to it....or. ... dont use a tablet for directions use your smart phone....and if you tell, e you dont have one then go return your tablet and get a real phone...
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jstompanato said:
Hi, these posts are great to explain the difference between the A-GPS and regular GPS, but what happens if you do not have a data plan on your tablet and you are not in a wireless range. There is no way to activate the GPS.
The only way I have been able to use my no data Samsung 10.1 is to activate the GPS while in a wireless area then I can go for a drive (will always stay connected). If I would try to activiate the GPS on the road, I am out of luck.
Any work arounds?
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GPS works fine away from wifi on my tab-2 7 inch. It has real gps and doesn't need a wifi connection. You do have to turn it on in system seyyings though,

Allen Edwards said:
GPS works fine away from wifi on my tab-2 7 inch. It has real gps and doesn't need a wifi connection. You do have to turn it on in system seyyings though,
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what did you do to get it to work without wifi? I have all three boxes checked in settings under location.

rbellis said:
what did you do to get it to work without wifi? I have all three boxes checked in settings under location.
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I have a Tab-2 7 inch with no G-whatever. The GPS is real and doesn't need anything other than to turn it on. It works fine. Try "GPS Test" it will tell you what is going on.
Just a point, an external GPS module will have about 1/2 the positional error of the built in GPS if you have WAAS or equivalent DGPS coverage. I get about 30 feet peak to peak error with the built in GPS and about 15 feet with my external Qstarz unit.

Tethering
Tethering your phone for GPS use will eat up your data plan. T-Mobile for example will limit your roaming data bucket if your phone is not within their network. The GPS feature of tablets is nice and the maps are large but I use a separate GPS unit for long distance driving and there's no extra charges. I bought a unit from Costco with free map updates for life! I would rather tether my tablet for internet use while on the road, it breaks the boredom with your passengers and they can watch Netflix too, depending on the signal. I do find that there is a lag connecting to the internet because the signal has to refresh with new tower signals.

Do you have to have a WiFi signal to use the Gaps? I lobe using my tablet in my truck but don't always want to connect my tablet to my phone

rbellis said:
Do you have to have a WiFi signal to use the Gaps? I lobe using my tablet in my truck but don't always want to connect my tablet to my phone
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Assuming you mean A-GPS, no, the A- bit (assisted) needs data but that's just to speed up the initial fix time.
However, if you want to do something useful with the information about where you are, you may need a data connection; Google maps for example needs a data connection to get the maps, unless you have pre-cached them for the area you are in.
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[Q]online gps tracker/navigation(not using direct gps satelite but via data plan)

is this possible? i mean this would be a great advantage for those samsung galaxy s 2.1 gps issue? the online internet provider provide the gps tracking via satelite not our devices. sorry for my bad english. thank u >.
lyrad12 said:
is this possible? i mean this would be a great advantage for those samsung galaxy s 2.1 gps issue? the online internet provider will provide the gps tracking via satelite not our devices. sorry for my bad english. thank u >.<
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Not sure what you mean.
GPS uses satellites. Phones use data plan to load maps. Some applications like TomTom load 1.5GB of maps on the SD card, but still use GPS chip to talk to satellite. If you don't use GPS you don't use satellites. You can use AGPS that uses cell phone towers, but it is not very accurate.
In summary. If you don't use satellites, you won't be very accurate. You can get basic location, but never use phone for turn by turn navigation.

GPS question

Hey guys quick question would the GPS still work on the n1 if you use it with only wifi. I was thinking of getting an offline map program and then using the GPS on the already downloaded map.
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I heard that google will provide an offline navigation soon. Very soon.
So you don't have to go looking for anything.
GPS can work without any data at all, WiFi or cellular. It'll just take much more time to lock on the position.
Assistance data can be downloaded on WiFi as well as cellular data.
shane8002 said:
Hey guys quick question would the GPS still work on the n1 if you use it with only wifi. I was thinking of getting an offline map program and then using the GPS on the already downloaded map.
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GPS = Provides a location. Besides speeding up an initial fix over data (AGPS) to get ephemeris data it doesn't care about data. And if you don't have any data available, it will download the ephemeris data itself after a few minutes anyway over the sat link.
What YOU mean is navigation... Google Maps? Waze? Those do require data. New Google Maps 5 coming out will not in certain circumstances, and there are other offline mapping programs out there, but most rely on data to download maps, routes, and create routes.

[Q] WiFi Only GPS Questions

I was curious as to why there is a button in the notifications menu to turn GPS on and off. I started to look in to it and discovered that there is indeed a GPS chip in the wife only version, or there seems to be anyway!
My question is, what does that chip exactly do? Does it only pick up your location? I can't seem to find any places around me with wifi off. I'm assuming that means all the map and location data is delivered over the internet through 3g or wifi. Is there anyway to use my device as I would a regular GPS device? I know it has all the features but can they work through the GPS chip like they do in a GPS device? Or is there anyway to get this to work?
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I was curious as to why there is a button in the notifications menu to turn GPS on and off. I started to look in to it and discovered that there is indeed a GPS chip in the wife only version, or there seems to be anyway!
My question is, what does that chip exactly do? Does it only pick up your location? I can't seem to find any places around me with wifi off. I'm assuming that means all the map and location data is delivered over the internet through 3g or wifi. Is there anyway to use my device as I would a regular GPS device? I know it has all the features but can they work through the GPS chip like they do in a GPS device? Or is there anyway to get this to work?
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Ok the wifi is mainly just for accessing networks either open or via ssd and password. You can also connected with mobile AP if your mobile has this option.
The GPS on the other-hand is for mapping and location based services like navigation etc (you can use copilot and several other gps based apps with the P1010). Some of these apps will also piggy back any Bluetooth and or wifi connections that are available for further triangulation if needed. So if you have any apps like various weather and navigation then the GPS is required (but also your location can be shared via your wifi and opt in to give this info through google).
Hope this helps
spyderz said:
I was curious as to why there is a button in the notifications menu to turn GPS on and off. I started to look in to it and discovered that there is indeed a GPS chip in the wife only version, or there seems to be anyway!
My question is, what does that chip exactly do? Does it only pick up your location? I can't seem to find any places around me with wifi off. I'm assuming that means all the map and location data is delivered over the internet through 3g or wifi. Is there anyway to use my device as I would a regular GPS device? I know it has all the features but can they work through the GPS chip like they do in a GPS device? Or is there anyway to get this to work?
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you can find your location via wifi, enable your wifi and turn gps on, you'll find your coordinates, but not that accurate compare to 3g

GPS still terrible on 2.3.4 sprint tab

First of all, yes I searched the forum, and google, and tho I might have missed something, I think I've tried most of the reccommendations out there (short of a custom rom because those are in short demand for the sprint tab.)
I did a wipe / odin to 24, updated to 28, then 2.3.4. Gps still sucked, so I flashed rooted 2.3.4 and tried 3 or 4 gps "fix" apps for this thing, none of which have made any difference. I can get gps but it takes FOREVER, usually around 5 minutes. Often it will find 6 or more satellites too, but just sit there and not lock on or whatever to any, then randomly it works. I've tried every combo of toggling gps, soft reset, and hard reset.
In texas I had the same problem on froyo, now I'm in Costa Rica... I'm assuming since gps stands for GLOBAL positioning sys that where I am shouldn't affect it. But its just SO darn slow ilby the time it starts working its useless.
and I test it outside on sunny days with open sky, so I know that's not the culprit. Nor ia it in a case when I try
Any thoughts or ideas at all would be MUCH appriciated as I really need to start using my tab for mapping.
Thanks!!!
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I think you're doing it wrong son. Try these settings. In wireless and network, mobile networks, uncheck 3g data. In location and security, check both use wireless networks and use GPS satellites. I assume you are using wireless tether from phone to give tab internet. Turn wifi on obviously. You do have the modded wpa_supplicant file for ad hoc for the tab right? I tried timing myself after doing all those settings I said and how long with GPS tools app and Google maps to get a lock and it was immediate. This is coming from never have using the GPS since the complete back to stock with ea24 all the way up to rooted gb.
People are saying to put the tab into airplane mode. If you want to use the GPS or things like weather bug or radar now, you at least need to have location from network enabled for it to assist in finding your location. You're not pulling data from the tower, the tower is helping the apply to locate where you're at, along with the GPS. GPS alone and wifi didn't work for me. When I enabled the settings I told you about, the GPS apps immediately came to life and worked great.
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I think you're doing it wrong son. Try these settings. In wireless and network, mobile networks, uncheck 3g data. In location and security, check both use wireless networks and use GPS satellites. I assume you are using wireless tether from phone to give tab internet. Turn wifi on obviously. You do have the modded wpa_supplicant file for ad hoc for the tab right? I tried timing myself after doing all those settings I said and how long with GPS tools app and Google maps to get a lock and it was immediate. This is coming from never have using the GPS since the complete back to stock with ea24 all the way up to rooted gb.
People are saying to put the tab into airplane mode. If you want to use the GPS or things like weather bug or radar now, you at least need to have location from network enabled for it to assist in finding your location. You're not pulling data from the tower, the tower is helping the apply to locate where you're at, along with the GPS. GPS alone and wifi didn't work for me. When I enabled the settings I told you about, the GPS apps immediately came to life and worked great.
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I'm in costa rica with a cdma sprint tab, so 3g is always disabled, and because there is no service I disabled network location because I figured it couldn't get that data with no signal, and my location kept going to some random location around the world. And when I need gps I'm out far away from wifi hotspots too, so not worried about that setting I don't think.
Wifi hotspots only, no tethering, and I don't have the wpa supplicant file, but again no tethering so I'm assuming that is not nessicary.
And in Airplane mode it never gets a lock. At least on froyo it never would. I would turn airplane on then activate gps and it never ever found a satellite. I researched it and I thought in airplane the gps couldn't function until airplane mode was disabled again, even if gps toggled...
I appriciate your input, but I don't think its going to work given my circumstances.
Thanks!
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[Q] Faster tethering?

Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Brendo said:
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
hurdlejade said:
maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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For light use, faster internet means the device wastes less CPU cycles waiting for responses. It's going over bluetooth either way, so better the device get the data in a fraction of a second than say 20-30 seconds (literally; I get only GPRS and occasionally EDGE in my office, never 3G or 4G, but I have flawless Wi-Fi). In those 20-30 seconds I could have pulled the phone out of my pocket to check what came through.
Although in all honesty I bought the Gear to hack with, and there are lots of crazy ideas I want to do with it that want a fast internet connection. Yes, the battery will die quickly, but that's the price of early adoption; I just want to hack for now and hope that when battery technology becomes better I can continue to be living with my futuristic apps. For now I can live with a charging cable down my sleeve and an external battery in my pocket, but I don't want to use USB tethering since I want it to still be able to go while disconnected.
wuxiekeji said:
Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
Brendo said:
I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
ronfurro said:
Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
wuxiekeji said:
Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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This is very true as unfortunatly in the US, native BT tethering is often blocked via Carriers who want to charge for it. In theory, this shouldnt be an issue with the Nexus line, curious if the Nexus 5 can... I can confirm, first hand that the technology does exist for wifi bluetooth tethering but it may be that no US phone has this feature enabled, to date. It should be noted that my Galaxy Grand was an international model, specifically the Latin model, not the India model. I could acutually use the phone without a sim card to serve up bluetooth PAN via home wifi to my old Motoactiv Smartwatch while I was screwing around in the house.
Faster Tethering?
wuxiekeji said:
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
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You should include som info about the make and model of your phone if you wish people to help you....
Anyway, both my GalaxyS3 and my iPhone4S can easily be used to share WiFi with my Gear over Bluetooth. But it doesn't increase the speed much as this is limited by the BT bandwith between the phone and the Gear. Typically max 3Mb/s
I've got an N9005 rooted (X-Note 13) bluetooth tethering my null 23 gear, and on 4G I actually get speeds up to 5MB/sec, yet the gear rarely goes above 50kb/sec, which, for me, is too low even for a vague browsing . I highly doubt anything carrier specific, I just think bluetooth is slow...

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