My HTC Velocity is unlocked, s-off and has lived a good life of forever shifting ROM's however a mandate has come down from above that they are rolling out a new antivirus package at work that detects all these shenanigans and reports it back, is there any way, now that I have s-off to relock the boot-loader without it saying "re-locked" and just saying locked like it did originally?
I'm not sure if that would actually be detected I have a feeling it only really detects rooting, however but it would be a nicety to get it back to totally stock.
Difficult answer to find with the associated keywords, sorry if this is a repost I did attempt to search for it.
I could be wrong, but as far as I know you should just have to relock your bootloader with the file you should have saved somewhere that let you originally unlock it and then run the RUU that's floating around here somewhere. Just make sure you download the correct RUU for what you want (the official ICS one is like 400 something MBs I think).
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Monkeymannnn said:
I could be wrong, but as far as I know you should just have to relock your bootloader with the file you should have saved somewhere that let you originally unlock it and then run the RUU that's floating around here somewhere. Just make sure you download the correct RUU for what you want (the official ICS one is like 400 something MBs I think).
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That is correct relock bootloader, then flash correct RUU for your device..
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OP does not want the boot loader to say re-locked.
AFAIK there is no way to do this. I have re-locked mine a few times and it always says re-locked.
Thanks, as above I have relocked many times, bummer can't get rid of re-lock
davidcampbell said:
Thanks, as above I have relocked many times, bummer can't get rid of re-lock
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You can get rid of the re-lock....
Check out this post I did it myself an it works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630569
Thanks esloan, I will take a crack at that :laugh:
Awesome thanks, was hoping for a way to put it back to stock totally in case of a warrant claim etc.
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the method mentioned above worked perfectly btw
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Hey guys long time to talk (long time since I have had internet)
So here is the situation, two weeks ago I bought the HTC Desire C and I rooted it, and of course unlocked my bootloader.
Problem is, I want to return this phone and exchange it for the LG Optimus Regard
Can anyone tell me the steps I need to take so the store reps wont know I fiddled with my device? (I read somewhere that they can tell how many times you flashed it, so I need to reset said counter if it exists) I really want to do this tonight.
Thanks,
Tlasch
You should be able to do a full unroot from the options in supersu also you can relock the bootloader but it will say relocked not locked like it used to and there's nothing you can do about that. But its unlikely they'd check that before they take it back anyway.
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You should be able to do a full unroot from the options in supersu also you can relock the bootloader but it will say relocked not locked like it used to and there's nothing you can do about that. But its unlikely they'd check that before they take it back anyway.
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Well in superuser, I have no options, will this RUU undo the root for me?
It says its the Europe version, will that mess my phone up? (NVM it doesnt look like it will work, it keeps telling me my battery is less than 30% which is not true)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710312
Yes flashing a ruu will unroot your phone but you need to make sure its the right when for where you live so if you dont live in Europe don't flash a Europe one also I think you need to relock the bootloader before flashing a ruu.
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run update in your htc software and
click on repair
done
Okay, I have a couple of questions I'm hoping someone can answer.
1). What is the situation with the boot loader on the One? I know there is a developer edition, but are all of the other versions going to be locked down? Also, since there is a Dev version I assume the one won't be on their unlock website, right?
2) my second question is more about HTC in general, and s-off. I know it stands for security off, but what does it do exactly? I've heard its needed for flashing certain things like kernels, but I don't understand why that would he necessary if the boot loader is already unlocked.
Im on Verizon, hoping and praying that the One comes to us, if not I'm probably leaving them. Can't wait to get my hands on this great phone, and hopefully help HTC come out of the dumps
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Chirp chirp? Are there not even any crickets in here?
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The One can be bootloader unlocked through htcdev. No problems there
Bootloader unlocked lets you flash custom firmware, but S-OFF gives you full control over what you want to do. This stands for NAND locked or NAND unlocked. What that does is give you access to normally restricted partitions on the phone, such as the boot and radio partitions. Even with bootloader unlocked, you need to flash the boot.img separately if you do not have S-OFF and radios cant be flashed
And doing the chirp chirp thing doesnt encourage people to answer. Just a tip.
Boot loader can be unlocked on all EU carriers by spending 5 mins on the htcdev site (its included under Other phones)
As for s off, not currently possible but also not needed. On tegra HTC phones you needed it to flash boot.img as part of flashing a new ROM but already bypassed for the One.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Boot loader can be unlocked on all EU carriers by spending 5 mins on the htcdev site (its included under Other phones)
As for s off, not currently possible but also not needed. On tegra HTC phones you needed it to flash boot.img as part of flashing a new ROM but already bypassed for the One.
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Technically its still needed, but theyve developed a workaround which is essentially fastbooting it from the phone.
Also correction, its not only on Tegra processors that this is an issue, its on all HTC devices because they all come NAND locked.
It's not needed but would be better if we can get s-off soon.
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ant78 said:
It's not needed but would be better if we can get s-off soon.
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So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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One of the things that can be done with s-off is flash a kernel image right from the phone without a PC
AllyOmega said:
So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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As said above me, flashing kernels during a rom flash (the rom zip will attempt to do it, but s-on prevents the boot.img from taking) without a computer or a workaround like SuperBoot, and you can also flash radios with s-off
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So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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CID can be changed to flash a different region ROM.
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And also to reflash HBOOT so that it says LOCKED instead of RELOCKED for warranty purposes.
Hi - so I recently installed AR HD 11.5, but I'm wondering now that I've done that is there any compelling reason to re-lock the bootloader? What about un-rooting... any reason to do that after I've done what I needed to whilst being rooted?
Finally, a couple of noobish questions... 1) what's the difference between unlocking the bootloader & S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I was thinking they were one and the same thing, but some of the reading I've done imply they are in fact different things. If someone could please provide a brief explanation I would appreciate it. 2) why are some people concerned about being able to flash the latest OTA update if they have a custom ROM installed? I mean, won't any custom ROM pretty quickly catch up or even surpass the latest available OTA update? For example, that's one of the reasons I chose to go with AR HD because it's already using 4.2.2 instead of 4.1.2 that came with my phone.
Thanks in advance
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Hi - so I recently installed AR HD 11.5, but I'm wondering now that I've done that is there any compelling reason to re-lock the bootloader? What about un-rooting... any reason to do that after I've done what I needed to whilst being rooted?
Finally, a couple of noobish questions... 1) what's the difference between unlocking the bootloader & S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I was thinking they were one and the same thing, but some of the reading I've done imply they are in fact different things. If someone could please provide a brief explanation I would appreciate it. 2) why are some people concerned about being able to flash the latest OTA update if they have a custom ROM installed? I mean, won't any custom ROM pretty quickly catch up or even surpass the latest available OTA update? For example, that's one of the reasons I chose to go with AR HD because it's already using 4.2.2 instead of 4.1.2 that came with my phone.
Thanks in advance
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1. sOFF permits various additional commands like fastboot flash etc.
In short you get even more freedom
Search on google :- ''why do we need to sOFF'' there is a link on ARHD blog that explains this in detail
2. The answer to your 2nd question is very simple.
To get back to full stock- as if you havent done anything to it(no root sOFF unlock etc.) So as to gain warrenty
Hit thanks if i helped you
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prunzzz said:
1. sOFF permits various additional commands like fastboot flash etc.
In short you get even more freedom
Search on google :- ''why do we need to sOFF'' there is a link on ARHD blog that explains this in detail
2. The answer to your 2nd question is very simple.
To get back to full stock- as if you havent done anything to it(no root sOFF unlock etc.) So as to gain warrenty
Hit thanks if i helped you
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I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
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I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
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90% of people have no need for s off...since HTC let us install kernels via recovery ...now barely any people need s off... I think in Europe it doesn't matter if you unlocked and etc..you're still covered... Here in the states ...they can be a holes
I used S-Off to convert my AT&T One software to Developer edition software, then returned it to S-On. Now running totally stock developer version software, eliminates AT&T bloat and hoping I get updates a bit sooner than I would have with AT&T version.
With S-OFF you can flash kernels from the phone. S-ON you would have to do it maunally via fastboot.
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Drvylyne said:
I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
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So you got the answer of your 1st question
Now the answer for 2nd one is very simple, though what you said about warrenty is right,
But still many times its always better to have a full stock for warrenty or replacement (by "better" i mean you dont have to prove anything to the service center)
Hit THANKS if i helped you
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squabbi said:
With S-OFF you can flash kernels from the phone. S-ON you would have to do it maunally via fastboot.
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Wrong I believe with updated HTC dev for the one...HTC unlocked that for us
Basically don't S off if you don't know what it does. It bypasses security checks and allows access to all phone partitions that if applyed wrong could brick your phone. Just flashing roms doesn't require s off
Example of mistake
Fastboot flash hboot recovery.img
This would brick your phone if you had s off, s on would deny write access!!
IF YOUR recive HELP FROM SOMEONE BE GRATEFUL AND HIT THANKS!!!
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Wrong I believe with updated HTC dev for the one...HTC unlocked that for us
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Oh sorry. I was basing that off the One X. I S-OFF'd my One because I thought that without S-OFF I couldn't flash a kernel.
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Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
They probably keep a record of who has requested an unlock token - but I doubt they can tell if you have used it or not..
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I just want to unlock my bootloader, but I hate that everything's wiped. With revone, nothing's wiped but then again I'm not sure if S-OFF's ever possible on 1.54. Then I'm stuck.
1.54 can't be s-off'd at the moment. Hopefully soon though
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redbull123 said:
1.54 can't be s-off'd at the moment. Hopefully soon though
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I know it can't. I hope it happens soon.
Theshawty said:
I know it can't. I hope it happens soon.
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Ok, sorry - I thought you said your weren't sure..
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I'm not sure if S-OFF's even possible on 1.54.
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Theshawty said:
Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
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I don't know the situation in Norway but in Holland HTC sends the phones in to a 3rd party repair company (dynafix, fixes all types of phones, also does (warranty) repairs for eg samsung) for warranty repairs, I doubt they can or bother to look into the database and see if an unlock token has been requested. I think the technicians have been instructed to look at the bootloader status (unlocked/relocked) and been instructed to deny warranty in such cases as much as possible.... I send in my device for warranty s-off(with revone though never unlocked via htcdev), but with locked bootloader, and it was repaired under warranty
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Ok, sorry - I thought you said your weren't sure..
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Typo. I meant "ever".
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godutch said:
I don't know the situation in Norway but in Holland HTC sends the phones in to a 3rd party repair company (dynafix, fixes all types of phones, also does (warranty) repairs for eg samsung) for warranty repairs, I doubt they can or bother to look into the database and see if an unlock token has been requested. I think the technicians have been instructed to look at the bootloader status (unlocked/relocked) and been instructed to deny warranty in such cases as much as possible.... I send in my device for warranty s-off(with revone though never unlocked via htcdev), but with locked bootloader, and it was repaired under warranty
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I don't know the situation in Norway either. I don't live there.
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Theshawty said:
I don't know the situation in Norway either. I don't live there.
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sweden then... I just looked at your carrier
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Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
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as long as its an Online process, and its done over the internet and requires your IMEI & SN i am %100 they keep record of your history.
unlike samsung which uses Odin app to unlock, Root, Flash stuff without going online
Ok so I'm sending my phone in for repair and would like to know what to do and what not to do when sending in to HTC for repair . I just dont want to pay extra for stupid crap software wise or some stupid re install fee for modifying my phone . I have no problems completing any task nessecary to go back to stock I just want to know what I cab get away with sending to htc. So here it goes
I have at&t branded one
I'm currently on android 4.3
Firmware 3.17
S-off
Cid 11111111
Hboot 1.55
And bootloader unlocked.
What can I get away with ? Leaving s-off no matter what and we all know why just hoping I get my same phone back .
Since I'm att does it matter that I'm higher than 4.1.2 and higher hboot cid bootloader etc etc
Really what does HTC care about ? And what should I correct before sending in to HTC ?
Thank you for your time
Should I just change my cid to dev and flash dev ruu ?
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Any one have some input ?
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ac3kill said:
Any one have some input ?
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Make it stock.
BenPope said:
Make it stock.
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Very helpful.
To OP: What problem are you sending it in for? If its a hardware problem that couldn't be caused by anything you did, then leave it. They dont care unless it could be caused by something you did to the bootloader. Just to be safe though, you could make a twrp backup, then flash a stock rom. No need to relock the bootloader or anything.
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And saying the same thing in more words is more helpful?
He should return it to stock software, why risk it?
Advising they don't care about unlocked and unsigned software is bizarre, since people have been refused repair or charged for a new mainboard.
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And saying the same thing in more words is more helpful?
He should return it to stock software, why risk it?
Advising they don't care about unlocked and unsigned software is bizarre, since people have been refused repair or charged for a new mainboard.
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In the US? When I called HTC to do my repair (power button stopped working), I asked if unlocking the bootloader mattered. He said not unless you brick the phone doing it. I sent it in bootloader unlocked and ARHD installed. I got it back with no hassles.
And saying the same thing in more words is more helpful?"
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K cool this is what I wanted to know sending in for BoomSound check tighten up some gaps in speaker and check my camera out no luck with 3.27 or 3.18 well my phone isn't bricked and works great so I'm gonna leave just how it is I also live in US
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So just called HTC to send phone in said first thing they do is a factory reset when phone gets to facility so I'm just gonna run latest dev ruu and leave my cid 1111111 and s off and hope for the best lol
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