Screen protector scratched by... included applicator card and microfiber cloth? - Nexus 7 Accessories

So I picked up a screen protector on Amazon by ArmorSuit... it seemed to have solid reviews and I heard reports of great customer service, so I spent the 20 bones to pick one up. I just now applied it, and it went on well without a hitch. Since it was a wet protector and majority of my screen protector experience was with dry ones, I watched the YouTube video and also thoroughly read the instructions. Last thing I wanted to do was install a wet protector incorrectly and mess up my device.
Once done I checked out the finish. Despite the fact it's been 20 minutes and not 12-24 hours like they say to let it sit, I noticed lots of tiny scratches on it, which definitely looked like it was from the applicator card. What baffles me more is I have a microfiber cloth that came with the kit that I was wiping the screen off with... I noticed even swirly scratches after I was done, yet this microfiber cloth has nothing in it whatsoever!
Er, uh. Has anybody ran into anything like this with screen protector application?
Despite this, I'm still relatively happy with the screen protector as it fits perfectly and was very quick and easy to install. That being said, I'm still a little disappointed in what I'm seeing here, but I'd still trade hairline scratches that aren't that visibleat all (and not visible whatsoever with the screen lit up) versus air bubbles and dust pockets which clearly are visible regardless... which is almost always the case with dry protectors... Don't get me wrong, it's not like it's a series of key-gouging lines here, but when video installation guide shows the tilted tablet glaring off of the ceiling light to show it is 100% smooth and flush with a perfect glass-like surface, that's where I can see these very fine marks.
Maybe, just maybe, this is some sort of epic self-healing screen protector that'll remove those blemishes over the next day as it sits. :laugh: Yes, just maybe.
EDIT, er... uh... under the bulleted list of features I found these two items that I may have overlooked when I first purchased it:
Self-healing technology , Military grade material engineered for your specific device
ArmorSuit Lifetime Replacement Warranty *Made in the USA*
lol????

My ArmorSuit came with a nice horizontal scratch in it and these visible shallow 'gouges'. I'm guessing from the installation card. I'm getting rid of it as it just doesn't look clean. Looks like a thin slab of rubber and not perfectly flat like the glass. YMMV though as I know I didn't install it Grade A, but still, I can't imagine that this screen protector can look or feel like glass.
Part of me like the feel of these wet protectors, but it does feel unnatural and sort of tiring to use. I opted for the 3-pack of CrazyOnDigital (clear) protectors. I figure I will mess up 1, get 1 right, and keep 1 for next year.

For installing via wet method (sounds dirty no? lol) you have to get almost everything but the device "wet". That includes your fingers and the screen protector (both sides) itself and also the squeegee or card or whatever you call it...
I have seen what is called 'burn' marks if not properly wet. Sucks I know! But The wet products in my experience are always great when finally dry. I have the XO skin and it's about totally dry. Looks great IMO.

"burn marks" sounds about right

kpjimmy said:
For installing via wet method (sounds dirty no? lol) you have to get almost everything but the device "wet". That includes your fingers and the screen protector (both sides) itself and also the squeegee or card or whatever you call it...
I have seen what is called 'burn' marks if not properly wet. Sucks I know! But The wet products in my experience are always great when finally dry. I have the XO skin and it's about totally dry. Looks great IMO.
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I'm not sure how much more wet you can get a screen protector when it's already dripping, which was the status of it when I placed it on the screen. Likewise, I did wash my hands just prior and also had my hands both completely saturated in the provided fluid.
Burn marks sounds like some food for thought, but I'm unsure how you can get a burn mark from a microfiber cloth when I'm wiping the screen off in a circular motion. I mean, I didn't attach it to a circular sander or anything...
So in the event this magical self healing thing doesn't live up, what other screen protector would you guys recommend? I definitely want to go with a wet application, as I'm already able to tell a world of difference, but I'm a little dissatisfied with how incredibly sensitive this protector is to scratches. It's great you can take a dremel to it and it still protects the actual tablet screen but when a microfiber cloth scratches it I can't say it impresses me.
EDIT - Just got an email response from them minutes ago. The bulk of the message is pasted below:
Regarding the marks on your screen protector:
Any filmy marks, air bubbles, swirl marks or haze underneath the screen protector is due to the solution, which can take up to 2 weeks to go away. It typically doesn't take this long, but it will eventually go away because the material is designed to be breathable. This will release any trapped solution.
Regarding the scratches on your screen, here is a quick and easy fix.
1. Please turn off your device.
2. With your screen protector still on your device, spray 1 pump on the screen protector and then spread the solution evenly with the included microfiber cloth.
3. The scratches should then disappear soon, within a few days at the very most because the material is self-healing.
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I guess I'll have to be a little more patient and see what happens.

Not sure why they don't just put this in the instructions, but here's a trick:
When you're pushing the bubbles out, put the piece of plastic that you peeled the protector off of over the screen. Don't ever use the squeegee directly on the screen.

slack04 said:
Not sure why they don't just put this in the instructions, but here's a trick:
When you're pushing the bubbles out, put the piece of plastic that you peeled the protector off of over the screen. Don't ever use the squeegee directly on the screen.
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I thought the same thing, but once I realized that the microfiber cloth was giving swirl marks, that whole premise behind that idea kind of crumbled. If a microfiber cloth will legitimently give this screen protector swirl scratches from wiping it clean, then that's pretty fail.
That being said, I'm remaining quite optimistic about this "self healing" thing. Maybe I will see them slowly disappear? Who knows. It is a little more comforting knowing they have a lifetime guarantee, but we'll tackle that conversation when/if it ever becomes necessary. At any rate, I keep reminding myself - at least the screen protector still looks 1000% better than any dry screen protector AND it's protecting the screen in the process. :good:

cfn87 said:
My ArmorSuit came with a nice horizontal scratch in it and these visible shallow 'gouges'. I'm guessing from the installation card. I'm getting rid of it as it just doesn't look clean. Looks like a thin slab of rubber and not perfectly flat like the glass. YMMV though as I know I didn't install it Grade A, but still, I can't imagine that this screen protector can look or feel like glass.
Part of me like the feel of these wet protectors, but it does feel unnatural and sort of tiring to use. I opted for the 3-pack of CrazyOnDigital (clear) protectors. I figure I will mess up 1, get 1 right, and keep 1 for next year.
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I ordered the exact same 3-pack and I have to say they're great. Got it perfect on the first try and it looks crystal clear. It looks a lot better than those $10-$20 dollar protectors out there.
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<rant>HD2 t-mobile brand screen protector.

Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
i know how you feel! i bought them when i got my hd2 and i got the top two-thirds of the protector on perfect but then the bottom third somehow got dust underneath, it really not that bad when the screen is on but its still annoying. cant wait to get my invisibleshield on it tho!
order this, the maximum protection from zagg....
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
I used invisishield on my ipod. Great stuff, but hard to get on perfect. 3 parts for a curved back and front only covers the LCD part? The front part sounds so unlike them. They normally have it going round buttons and everything.
But it's like putting tint on. You need to have a liquid to make slide just right.
i used invisible shield on my iphone, and it was fully protected. It did add grip to the device which i liked. Anyways, the maximum protection shield covered more than the normal full-body shield. It'll cover not only the LCD screen but all spaces around the hardware buttons and well as the speaker.
starstreak said:
Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
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I also got these same screen protectors and was dissapointed when it did not cover the entire screen.
Trick to putting on screen protectors.
1.) Make sure the screen is completely clean of all smudges etc.
2.) Use a can of air duster to remove any small dust particles that might be stuck on the phone. If you don't have that then just take a piece of tape and remove any dust particles or dirt from the screen. This is the most important part!
3.) Line up the screen protector on the screen where you want to place it.
4.) Peel back the backing of the screen protector as you lay the screen on the device. Start from the top of the device and work your way down. If need be take out a credit card or another hard piece of plastic of some sort to push out any air bubbles that may occur as you lay down the screen protector.'
5.) Enjoy a job well done.
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
pa49 said:
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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My TMOUS HDC HD2 is definitely glass.
I didn't bother to use a screen protector (didn't even know there was one supplied)...it isn't necessary on a glass screen.
Its very hard to scratch glass...you would need a very sharp object, made out of a very hard material (harder than glass), applied with a lot of pressure. I've had my iPhone for 3 years, and the glass is flawless on it. The aluminum housing is scratched, dented, and dinged up, and the LCD panel has a little bit of bruising on the top left corner BEHIND the glass...but the glass itself is immaculate.
Apple actually pulled the screen protectors off the shelves from the Apple store because they felt they were unnecessary..and frankly anyone who pays for one on the HD2 or iPhone wasted their money.
You'll actually see more imperfections on the screen by applying a screen protector...they have a tendency to attract dust, bubble up, and flat out get dirty. The only maintenance you need to do on a glass screen is polish out smudges and finger prints.
The biggest peril to glass touch screens is cracks from falls....and if your HD2 suffers a big enough impact, a screen protector or 'invisible shield' won't do squat to keep it from cracking
glass or plastic..either way.. i was soooooooooooo confident i wouldnt scratch mine, until about a minute ago when i was in the process of wiping the glass(plastic) screen before putting on a screen protector, i noticed a little scratch...great. Should've put on a protector sooner...
From now on, I willl be putting on a screen protector unless the screen are made out of crystal sapphire or something..
pa49 said:
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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We actually do not get an included screen protector. Only the black gel case, which imo is quite crappy... loose and flimsy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6117793#post6117793 Check out oy instillation of the Invisible shield if you are considering buying one. I bought the Maximum Protection and it covers almost everything besides for around the buttons on the bottom, volume rocker, camera, Micro USB/ 3.5 Headphone jack, and the finger nail grove on battery cover. I also would like to note that my TMOUS HD2 did not include any screen protectors in the box.
Sorry imo I have to disagree with you about the included gel being loose mine fits quite snugly and until my zagg comes in I prefer to keep it in the gel...not as slick & keeps the screen(when face down) off the flat surface.
A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
MAMeingast said:
A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
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I agree, I used to do this back in the day before Zagg came around. It works great.
I have read with other products people use a drop or water/soap water before applying a screen protector. Has anyone used this method on this device? i am concerned that the water will somehow ruin the device. I know it's only a drop or 2 but wanted to get some feedback first before i tried it.

My review on invsibleSHIELD and zaGGskin

Hey everyone,
I recently purchases a custom zagg skin and the invsibleSHIELD ,
The zaggskin is easy to put on the back of your HD2 , its a little bit smaller, but that makes the process of putting it on easier (It took me like 2 min?),
Before the invsibleSHIELD I tried various screen-protectors , but I always had bubbles or dust underneath them.
With the invsibleSHIELD I just followed instructions , and volla , no airbubles, no dust , its makes the screen even brighter.
One negative point about it, its pricey , i ordered mine during Memorial Day (50 percent off),
Regards,
PS: Sorry for my bad english
How can a cover make the screen brighter? Are these skins polarized or something? I'm curious.
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
invisible shield
i wont take the chance of scratching my screen even if its impossible
invisible shield is not only on the front but on the back too.
its less sensitive for oily fingerprints - maybe that is why it looks a little bit brighter than without. before i had it, it was difficult to see in sunlight and now its better.
plus, the device wont slip of your hand, again do to the back cover.
so, i recommend invisible shield sincerely
cheers
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
unni3063 said:
My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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No problems here, and the screen protector isn't that thick, its just even thick like any other screen protector ,
Munto said:
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search.
Spending $10-20 on a quality screen protector is probably the cheapest insurance you could get to protect your screen if/when you scratch the protector and the scratch becomes unbearable, spend $10-20 on a new one
Though Ive not seen one before for mobile phones, there are privacy screens for laptop/desktop monitors. These screens significantly blur the image unless you are directly in front of the screen, if you tilt the screen more than 10degrees or so the screen will blur. These are used a lot in medical/financial institutions, sensitive departments within companies like HR. Ive seen these appearing on ATMs now too
I will agree there is no protector that will make your screen "brighter" that's just about impossible, anything put over the screen is actually going to attenuate any light coming though it, though it may not be perceivable. Certain protectors may eliminate screen glare, making the screen easier to see in certain lighting conditions
ohhh yeah, believe me the screen CAN be scratched! got two very nice ones to prove it. lol
d0ug said:
The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search. ....
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Well about the brighter , i have the the shield now for a week, the screen looks better because there are no fingerprints on the screen , further its scrolls smoother
Sorry but I'd stay clear from Zagg's Invisible Shiled as it is not really effective nor fully stand their claim "as advertised".
After 3-4 months of use (in tropical countries or desert areas), the sands/dirts snug into the linings, then started to peel off little by little.
Had this product on my Fuze and then my Topaz a while back, not very happy about it.
The only good things about the product is (1)fancy retail packaging, and (2)their screen protector. Sorry.
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
erosennin said:
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
Dangerously said:
It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
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How many times there have to be said that this capacitive screen is not made from GLASS, there are enough people one the web which HD2 got scratched, believe they will scratch
I have the full body zagg skin. Gotta say it's great. Simple to apply and really keeps the device from getting scratched. Even protects the corner. Don't get what the complaint above was about. It covers the screen so wtf are you talking about? Only thing I wish they'd fix is that you can't apply a skin or case over it. If you do it'll get stuck to it unless it's like a cloth case or something. Hope they fix that issue one day. Still not bad, plus I did like the OP and ordered on Memorial Day for like 12 dollars.
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
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ilordvader said:
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
thanks
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
Jalaluddin said:
ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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Can someone post some pics
front & back to get a idea how it looks
Thanks
Glue softens
I have to say I was happy for around 5 months - until it started to get warmer. Then the glue started to soften and smear out from under the shield. It made the screen look a bit of a mess and ultimatly the corners started to flap about because all of the glue had gone. Contacted Zagg customer support and they admitted this can happen when warm and humid. They suggested I use their replacement service but why should I pay around 6€ for postage in both directions if as soon as it gets warm it will be a mess again. Not very impressed. I'll stick to the electrostatic screen shields in the future. Can anybody recommend one?

NC : Screen Surface: Sexy Silky Glass/Diy

Warning!!!!!!!! You really can crack your glass by following the directions below, Please, read no further and leave now. If you, crack your screen, set your house on fire, or sever an artery (broken glass) then bleed out and die......well, you were warned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, if your still here, read on and good luck.
Samsung Galaxy S Screens are smooth and silky! Even the name, gorilla - tough and glass- vulnerable, says sex;
Well, how can we get a sexy Fay Wray G.Tab screen surface from a humble sandpapered plain Jane surfaced NC screen?
The secret is............RAINX.....That's right, the same stuff you want on your windshield in a downpour, will with proper application, impart that silky smoothness you secretly crave.
APPLICATION:
1. Use "The original" rainX. (Caution: it is flammable)
2. Clean glass surface really, really...no really good. (Remove oils, alcohol works)
3. Use clean paper towels, fold into squares (4 or 5 )
4. Dampen towel applicator and scrub surface (Don't Crack Your Screen! Work into micropores of glass surface)
5. Dry to haze (for humidity over 10% use a blow dryer...low heat!)
6. Polish methodically...lots of clean dry paper towels (Don't Crack Your Screen!)
7. REPEAT (It took me 3 times)
Warning!!!!!! Do not, I repeat, Do not allow your girl/boy/wife/husband to touch the new silky surface; not if you ever want either of them back, that is.
Thanks for posting. Just a couple questions...
First, does this prevent finger oils from messing up the screen?
Next, wouldn't windex/alcohol remove the rainx then next time you cleaned your screen? It does on windshields... If so (and if it doesn't prevent finger grease marks), then I think you'd have to do this process over and over, each time you cleaned your screen.
Bimboy said:
Thanks for posting. Just a couple questions...
First, does this prevent finger oils from messing up the screen?
Next, wouldn't windex/alcohol remove the rainx then next time you cleaned your screen? It does on windshields... If so (and if it doesn't prevent finger grease marks), then I think you'd have to do this process over and over, each time you cleaned your screen.
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Why are u using windex or alcohol? Just use a micro fiber cloth. No chemicals.
Uh, yeah, I wouldn't advise using Windex or alcohol on any screen. If a simple microfiber cloth won't clean it, add a drop of water for the tough stuff.
or just use tv cleaners
RainX application maintenance
WFINGER
Bimboy said:
Thanks for posting. Just a couple questions...
First, does this prevent finger oils from messing up the screen?
Next, wouldn't windex/alcohol remove the rainx then next time you cleaned your screen? It does on windshields... If so (and if it doesn't prevent finger grease marks), then I think you'd have to do this process over and over, each time you cleaned your screen.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
Why are u using windex or alcohol? Just use a micro fiber cloth. No chemicals.
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Bimboy, yes it does help with the finger oils. I think it works by preventing the oils from settling into the glass micropores. You still get smugdes and fingerprints but they wipe off much, much easier.
As Finland 2 suggested, once applied, a microfiber cloth is all that is needed to maintain the new finish. I expect it to last quite a while, since on a windsheild even with wipers and rain, an application usually. Lasts up to a month.
A little spritz of Stoner Invisible Glass (for autos) on a microfiber cloth does a good job getting the NC glass as smooth as a Tab too. Fights fingerprints for a bit, and doesn't take any effort. A can should last you a lifetime.
Pledge furniture polish spray will also help (it's pretty popular for cleaning helmet visors and motorcycle windscreens) and will also keep the prints down on the plastic bezel area (and back). Once again, apply it to a cloth first, don't spray it directly on the NC.
O your can just get a nice Screen protector like the AntiGlare one B&N Sell..........
Makes my screen silky smooth and protects it from scratches.... Why would I want to waste time using rainx and a process that could hurt the screen?
Also Rubbing alcohol with Microfiber Cloth Works Great to clean the screen, gets ride of all the oil and grim. Do not use anything but a Microfiber Cloth(As it could scratch the screen), Also Pure alcohol wont hurt the screen, its Ammonium based products and harsher Chemicals like that you need to watch out for. Alcohol is a prove safe method for cleaning Plastics even Internal Computer parts wont be hurt by Rubbing Alcohol.
I use to by screen protectors for all phones back when they had the plastic resistive screens. So far I have yet to scratch any of my glass capacitive ones. I did buy a used ipad from someone that managed to scratch the glass, it can barely be seen but it is there. So I'm on the fence about a screen protector for the nook. I probably won't get one for the nook but if i buy a $500+ tablet you can bet I will put one on.
I don't like the drag created when using a Zagg (invisible sheild) soft films but I don't mind the harder plastic ones that you occasionally have to replace.
gedster314 said:
I use to by screen protectors for all phones back when they had the plastic resistive screens. So far I have yet to scratch any of my glass capacitive ones. I did buy a used ipad from someone that managed to scratch the glass, it can barely be seen but it is there. So I'm on the fence about a screen protector for the nook. I probably won't get one for the nook but if i buy a $500+ tablet you can bet I will put one on.
I don't like the drag created when using a Zagg (invisible sheild) soft films but I don't mind the harder plastic ones that you occasionally have to replace.
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I'm kinda in your camp, I've never found a screen protector that I wanted to use. They may be out there, but the trade offs, for me at least, seem to out weight the advantages in day to day use. Since I use a cover for my NC, I don't have to worry about objects in my pocket, keys and such, gouging my screen.
I know the RainX thing isn't for every one, and there may be easier ways to achieve the smooth surface effect, but I have found it to have worked very well. Before treating the screen, it would take a lot more microfiber polishing to remove finger oils or smudges, but now they come off very easily.
I've been using 'Gel Gloss No-Streek' for years on all kinds of glass stuff. It really is the best that I've found and it is pretty cheap. I used it on my nC and it is 'silky smooth' and resists fingerprints extremely well. One word of note though is that the polish does contain 'petroleum distillates and ammonia' so you have to be careful handling it and it stinks. Also, like most good quality polish you want to apply it to a cloth first, then to the nC, don't apply directly to the nC.
Here is a link to the stuff I bought.
http://www.amazon.com/Industries-NS-8-8OZ-Glass-Polish/dp/B000IO8GWC
Matte Anti-glare screen filter is the way to go
gedster314 said:
I use to by screen protectors for all phones back when they had the plastic resistive screens. So far I have yet to scratch any of my glass capacitive ones. I did buy a used ipad from someone that managed to scratch the glass, it can barely be seen but it is there. So I'm on the fence about a screen protector for the nook. I probably won't get one for the nook but if i buy a $500+ tablet you can bet I will put one on.
I don't like the drag created when using a Zagg (invisible sheild) soft films but I don't mind the harder plastic ones that you occasionally have to replace.
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I feel ya. I think you would be presently surprised with the Nook AntiGlare Matte filter available at Barnes and Noble. It's $15 and really does make the screen feel smooth, while at the same time resisting finger prints and smudges really well. A night and day improvement over the oddly tacky feel of the nook color screen. They give you two of them. Oh, and it's the "hard" type of plastic, not the flimsy cheap stuff.
RainX is not going to keep your screen from getting scratched. It also will probably increase and not reduce glare.
Gel gloss, isnt that for fiber glass?
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Wrapsol Ultra: Dry v. Wet Application

Hey,
I just got got a Nexus S (upgrade from Nexus One w00t! ) and I'm really interested in getting a skin for it. I'm looking specifically at buying a Wrapsol one since I've read that it doesn't have the orange peel effect. I'm just confused over the "ultra protective film" (UPF) and the "original scratch protection" (OSP) that they're selling. I know that the UPF is a dry application and is $30 while the OSP is $25. I've put on many screen protectors in my life before but this is gonna be my first entry into the world of skins. What's the main difference between a dry and wet application protector? What is the better choice? Thanks for your help!
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
peeturr said:
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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Thanks for the insightful response! One of the things that has scared me away from things like Zagg and other wet application skins is the fact that after a couple of days, weeks, or months, the skin starts to peel off off the corners. Is that still a problem with skins today? (I saw the peeling off the corners a couple of years ago from my friends' blackberries.) Or is that more of the user's fault? I heard that you should ceram-wrap the devise completely also while it's drying so that everything sticks. Is that true? Is there an effective way of applying the skin so that they don't peel off by themselves off corners over time?
myboygino said:
I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
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Thanks for letting me know about the screen protector! I'm already planning on using a Clarivue screen protector. I'm more curious about the back and side protection itself. How were they? Did they have the orange peel effect? How did they feel like? Did you use the wet or dry one? How easy was it to apply? Lastly, did the skin ever start peeling off by itself?
Again, thanks for all of y'all's responses!
I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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Thanks! I'll definitely do what you suggested!
Well, I ended up ordering the Wrapsol wet application one. I'm just going to be using the back and side protection. I hope this goes well....
I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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Cool, thanks for letting me know! I heard that the wet one is a matte finish. Is that true? Also, what did you think of the screen protector portion of the wet skin?
I actually wet the ultra protective film version, its glossy not matte. Its very thick compared to the Zagg Ive used in the past, someone said it was made of polyurethane.
so far so good I like the way it looks on the screen portion with a lot less orange peel than the Zagg.

Screen Protector Tag-Team!

So after going through many TGSPs and finding pretty much all of them terrible, I found a off-the-wall solution that seems to tic off all of the major check marks for me:
Smooth glass-like surface
Great touchscreen sensitivity
Great optical clarity
Won't peel off (obviously)
Turns out, it's not just one solution, but a combination of two different screen protectors used in conjunction. This might be a long post but stay with me here.
First thing I tried long ago was the wet-apply TPU stuff from IQ-Shield. It's actually a great product if you put it on properly and is fairly inexpensive. The application might be a pain for some (I didn't mind it so much). But I'd always hated the texture and tackiness of the surface. Also, it's aways a bit sharp at the edges that it bothered me to hold it. And strangely, these are easy to scratch. The scratches really show on them too. They're also smudge magnet and look terrible unless thoroughly clean.
Then I tried all of the major TGSPs on the market (GPEL, ZAGG, AmazingThing and a few cheaper stuff) and while many of them looked great, the glare and touchscreen sensitivity was always anywhere between inadequate to terrible.
Then I looked in this PET(I think?) plastic stuff from G-Color
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FTUB74S..._t1_B01FTUB74I
Turns out this stuff is pretty great. It honestly feels as smooth as glass. Looks like glass. Screen sensitivity was awesome. clarity was amazing. I can also atest to it durability as well. I'd been moving my futon around a bit and had the phone perched on the the backrest. The phone fell onto the metal frame of the futon, glassface first. the impact messed up the screen protector and it got warped at the impact site, but the phone glass was fine. Great start so I ordered another immediately.
But low and behold, after another two weeks or so of usage, the edge began to lift. Turns out the silicone adhesive, which works fine on flat glass, doesn't do so well with curved glass long term.
Disappointed, I thought about ways of giving it extra adhesion then I remembered that the TPU stuff is very tacky. So I washed and re-applied (wet) the IQ-Shield stuff. I let it set until all the air and water bubbles disappeared (about two days). Then I washed the G-Color piece (it had lint and dust stuck on it). I applied that one wet as well (yes you can apply PET protectors wet) right on top of the IQ-Shield. Gave it another few ways days to set and the bubbles disappeared. I was astonished by the results. I got all of the things I was look for above. I tried force peeling the edge off and I was very surprised how hard it was to do. I gave it three weeks and it had been flawless.
I went and bought another G-Color piece (this time in white). Of course taking the first (gold) one off you probably have to reapply the TPU one underneath. A second round of thorough washing and reapplying the IQ-Shield (I didn't have to buy a new one. As long as you wash it correctly with dish soap and are careful, you can reuse them). Once again, let it set over a couple of days.
Since it was the first time I applied the new G-Color piece, I applied it dry as instructed on package. You'd only need to apply the PET stuff wet if you're reapplying for second time after washing. The first time should be dry using the guide stickers. The results were similar (maybe a bit better since I was using a brand new G-Color piece). It's been a month and a half now. Flawless. Well almost: Since I applied the G-Color with white bezel over a black phone, its white part is not as bright-white as it could be. More like a white-grey, but unless you butt it up to another white phone, you won't notice. The gold one looks completely gold.
So now I have a phone protected by two layers. The two layers together are also a bit thinner than a single TGSP. It looks completely like glass and I've been amazed how scratched resistant it has been. They're also smudge and fingerprint resistent.
Another check mark that might matter to some, but not me: Case-friendliness. Those that have such cases, this might not work so well since this goes pretty close to the edge of the glass. It does leave about a .5mm around the edge. I personally would have liked it to go all the way to the edge but I don't know how that would effect the adhesion. None of my cases wrap around the edge of the glass so it never affected me at all.
Hope this helps someone.
Tip: When applying wet after washing with dish soap, try not to completly wash off the dish soap. A bit of dish soap remaining will help you with positioning the protector since it will allow you to slide it around a bit. Once you're in position, pressing down (especially around the home button, ear speaker and camera cut-outs) will hold it in place while you squeegy the remaining water out. I like to use my finger and roll it to push water out. Try not to slide you finger across the surface as it might catch and pull the protector out of position. Don't worry about air or water bubbles too much. They will slowly disappear over a few days.
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Thanks for those VERY complete tips, I shall follow your guidelines reapplying my TGSP!
Just curious how your solution is holding up. I just bought an S7 edge, so I'm in the market for a good screen protection solution. This sounds like a pain, but it also sounds like it may just be worth it!
TIA!

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