http://omgdroid.com/cyanogenmod-10-preview-arrives-for-the-google-nexus-7-tablet/
Tried it and it's really fast and smooth.
Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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Features, theming, tweaks, more control over your device.
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Features, theming, tweaks, more control over your device.
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I looked at some videos of CM10 on YouTube but besides the ability to put widgets on the lockscreen, I didn't see all these features and tweaks that you're referring to. Can you expand on that? Also, what do you mean by "more control over your device"?
I'm not downplaying or dismissing CM. Just trying to understand why it's so popular.
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I looked at some videos of CM10 on YouTube but besides the ability to put widgets on the lockscreen, I didn't see all these features and tweaks that you're referring to. Can you expand on that? Also, what do you mean by "more control over your device"?
I'm not downplaying or dismissing CM. Just trying to understand why it's so popular.
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This CM10 Preview is a VERY basic build, and will probably not have as much of the added functionality that CM9 would have (this is something I assume as I have not flashed this ROM yet). CM allows you much more control over customizing your device by adding more options under Settings, and also by including tweaks / fixes / new features. Things such as themes, Advanced Power Menu, more control over navigation bar, themes (yes I said that twice for a reason ), different launcher.
It also, in many cases, can make your device more responsive / faster by removing a lot of the 'bloatware' and unnecessary background apps that some manufacturers out in their ROMs.
Gotcha. Thanks for the rundown.
They would have a hard time to get me to use CM again, I once had a so-called "stable" build of CM 7.03 on my Desire last year and it had to be rebooted almost every day to fix a glitch here or there, presumably because of all the hacks/tweaks they use. Problems went away after going to a pure AOSP ROM.
Remember this is just a preview.
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Not sure if this has been asked on the forums, but can someone please tell me exactly, what is the difference between this and CM10[JellyBro] Nightly Kangs? I want to use the latest one as possible. Also, I know this is the Nexus 7 forum, but the same can be said for the Galaxy Nexus (maguro). Are the JellyBro Nightly Kangs the way to go for the latest CM10 previews?
Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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well, afaik, more settings, faster, more mods, better customisability, themes, etc..
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Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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So this ROM is officially by CM himself? Does it run JellyBean? Also, does the Galaxy Nexus have official CM builds with JB?
https://plus.google.com/113334764480431682966/about he is one of the CM maintainers. This is a Nexus 7 forum not Galaxy Nexus.
O hay guyz when will th3re be updaytes for dis!?22211?11!!!
Heh, jk. Looks absolutely fabulous!!! I'm continuously blown away by the CM team. I can't wait until this is stable enough for a daily driver. This is my first tablet so I can be a little more daring. Nightly are almost always stable enough, but now that I have a phone AND a tablet it'd be all right to tinker even more so with the tablet.
This won't be good for my flashing addiction. We need a support group for all the married dudes with upset spouses lol
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Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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The ONLY difference between a nightly kang and an 'official' build will be cherry-picked features that have not been added to the official version. Usually, these are small tweaks that will within a week or two be added to the official releases.
There are no other differences. Stability will, almost inevitably, be the same between the two.
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The ONLY difference between a nightly kang and an 'official' build will be cherry-picked features that have not been added to the official version. Usually, these are small tweaks that will within a week or two be added to the official releases.
There are no other differences. Stability will, almost inevitably, be the same between the two.
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If they are the same, I'm going going to stay with the KANG nightly builds.
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They would have a hard time to get me to use CM again, I once had a so-called "stable" build of CM 7.03 on my Desire last year and it had to be rebooted almost every day to fix a glitch here or there, presumably because of all the hacks/tweaks they use. Problems went away after going to a pure AOSP ROM.
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Cyanogen Mod has come a long way. CM is in 7.2 stage for the Desire HD at the moment. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Not once have I gotten a force close a random reboot or any other issues on CM7.2. Just because you have one bad issue, doesn't mean it should stop you from using their other roms. Remember you flash custom roms at your own risk and the word customer should make you expect issues here and there. :cyclops:
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This is for CrackFlashers build of CM7. These are not my builds but simms22 didn't want to start a thread. These are just builds of CM7 from the source. The unofficial part is because they are not from teamdouche. new builds are in the link.
http://www.crackflashers.com/
Thanks simms22!!
Follow Crackflashers on twitter @gridlock32404 @simms22
Changelog on twitter @cmsrc
is it ****ty of me to request a change-log on these nightlys? It is completely understandable if this is an unreasonable request Love the ROMs. Keep em comin.
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is it ****ty of me to request a change-log on these nightlys? It is completely understandable if this is an unreasonable request Love the ROMs. Keep em comin.
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****ty, not really. But I can't help you with it. FWIW @cmsrc lists what has changed.
We will be at 1000 pages in no time. Thanks for starting this.
off hand there was some camera stuff in the latest
Time for me to start flashing..
Thanks for these. I've been enjoying them.
Does anybody know why the new market isn't in the gapps?
Just wondering...
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This is for CrackFlashers build of CM7. These are not my builds but simms22 didn't want to start a thread. These are just builds of CM7 from the source. The unofficial part is because they are not from teamdouche. new builds are in the link.
http://gridlock.euroskank.com/crespo/
Thanks simms22!!
Follow Crackflashers on twitter @gridlock32404 @simms22
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Any chance of screen shots or perhaps some detailed information about what features are included in this build?
ok who install live a feed back please
Its the same as alpha2 but with cyanogenmod settings. Runs good. Just make a backup and try it out if you wanna see how it runs. Its been very stable for me
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still waiting on battery %. other than that this rocks. Any idea when the build will include a custom kernel?
i was glad to see cyanogen settings. still waiting for the submenu to change the statusbar. I always liked showing signal numbers instead of signal bars.
Been running these for a day now, very stable. Love having cm settings back, especially lockscreen options and music controls.
Great having the invisible slide unlock. Remember pervert power from a while back?
What exactly do the build numbers designate? Are there differences between each build? I flashed #24, but am just looking to see if 25 or 26 have anything different to offer.
I'm also enjoying these...
Torch FC's - other than that, its very stable.
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I'm also enjoying these...
Torch FC's - other than that, its very stable.
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yea, cm builtin torch doesn't work but other 3rd party apps work fine. I can't wait for them to get the notification bar options rolled out.
we cant do overclock 1.3mhz???
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we cant do overclock 1.3mhz???
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Not on the included kernel as that's not really the point of the Alpha builds. Although I have never done it myself, my understanding is that basic OC kernels are easy to make if you feel so inclined. Not really sure what you hope to gain other than benchmark scores; I have yet to find any situation where a 1Ghz Hummingbird is bottlenecking performance.
Whats the newest, most bug free ROM out there for Bionic, thats still getting updates?
I've had the Bionic for a couple of weeks and already got disapointed.
back when i rocked the DX2 i was die-hard Eclipse.
well on bionic i notaced many bugs, and i re-flashed, redownloaded, the works. had the same issues.
anyway. nitro sold his bionic, so no more Eclipse. so i swung to the other side to try Liberty. its cool. no where neer as boss as Eclipse. but they both have pros and cons. anyway.
come to find out Liberty devs stopped for the bionic too. so, my question is, what is the newest, bestest rom, thats still getting updates, and lots of themes? preferably a boss ICS theme D
Active Bionic Roms
There are several alpha and beta Roms out for the Bionic however most of them still have bugs ranging from no 3G/4G to the front facing camera not working. From what I can tell the only stable Rom for the Bionic is gummy. This may be due to the Bionic having a locked boot loader. Hopefully either Nitro will get a used Bionic and continue development or development will increase when or if ICS is officially released on the Bionic.
i hope he does too. i really enjoyed Eclipse. besides the fact thant when i held down the power button to get the reboot options it would just straight up reboot. (very annowing when wanting recovery)
i think the AOKP ICS rom thats out looks mighty spiffy, but i dont know what all doesnt work, and i dont want to risk having to go back to my old old devour. (sold the DX2)
anyway. thanks for your input!
here is me and @insanemods rom mainly his but working on fixing all the bugs stuck at f.c.'s at the moment but mostly works themes galore lockscreen changes and such... here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535293
I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find a stable ROM rather than go back to de-bloated Blur. The only other recommendation I can give besides those already mentioned is dhacker's April 5th nightly of CM9.
I obviously haven't been using it for long, but it has so far has a pretty consistent data connection.
DroidHive -> Downloads -> Bionic -> CM9 SELFKANG BIONIC ICS
I've been running CM9 Unofficial since it dropped. Currently I am on 04-04 and have had stable data and WiFi since I flashed it. HW accel and video are the only things really missing for me. Give it a shot.
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I've been running CM9 Unofficial since it dropped. Currently I am on 04-04 and have had stable data and WiFi since I flashed it. HW accel and video are the only things really missing for me. Give it a shot.
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can you post a link to the rom
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thats sounds really nice. so theres CM9, and CM7.....wheres 8??
but a link would be helpful.
i just want something super stable, that will work with safestrap, and will be getting updated frequently, i like having all the bugs worked out, and having cool new additions
because i liked the option of going into recovery upon each boot.
and is anyone using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527544 ?
i want a straightforward review of it. dont sugar coat it xD
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here is me and @insanemods rom mainly his but working on fixing all the bugs stuck at f.c.'s at the moment but mostly works themes galore lockscreen changes and such... here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535293
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ive never found MIUI appealing, its not really my cup of tea. it reminds me too much of apple. i really dislike apple stuff
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I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find a stable ROM rather than go back to de-bloated Blur. The only other recommendation I can give besides those already mentioned is dhacker's April 5th nightly of CM9.
I obviously haven't been using it for long, but it has so far has a pretty consistent data connection.
DroidHive -> Downloads -> Bionic -> CM9 SELFKANG BIONIC ICS
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it'd be pretty cool if they had a bug list, and screenshots...
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ive never found MIUI appealing, its not really my cup of tea. it reminds me too much of apple. i really dislike apple stuff
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i can see apple as first install install like nova launcher or apex and the "apple" is gone dude simple as that super customizable at that point.. just sayin' but do what you want..
I do prefer the AOKP ICS rom port over the CM9 just for the little details, but they're rather similar.
Being new to this stuff, I don't know what "Repo Sync & Build" means. But I've used the rom linked below, and in my eyes, it was merely the March 13th nightly of the AOKP rom port--also on droidhive, their latest is april 8th.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527544
Both the AOKP and CM9 4.0.3 roms have the same bugs as mentioned above.
No HW accel. Games crash.
Video has issues.
Data is intermittent. I'll have rock steady data all day, but then the next day it won't work at all.
AOKP:
http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/files/file/37-aokp-selfkang-bionic-ics-403-r1-nightlies/
CM9:
http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/files/file/38-cm9-selfkang-bionic-ics-403-r1-nightlies/
Is there any consensus on which is the most stable ROM with a solid 4G connection?
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Is there any consensus on which is the most stable ROM with a solid 4G connection?
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im with this guy.
even 3G
im using the one on her the repo sync and build ICS AOKP.
well, one thats getting updates like the ICS roms.
like is CM9 or the AOKP better?
or pretty much the same, but with one with 'rom controll"
hell, i wouldnt mind just a port of stock ICS with boss data connectivity.
oh, with the AOKP can i update between nightlys just by wiping cache and flashing, or do i need to factory reset everything?
I use eclipse 2.2 after using liberty for .901. I tried gummy but had issues.
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anyone have a link for a stock 902 thats deodexed and flashable?
The Gummy ICS rom is VERY good and is only missing a working camcorder...and that's it. I ran it for days and ZERO issues, except for that. Eventually I just got too uncomfortable not being able to use the video camera and went back to stock. It just updated yesterday as well, but still no video recording:
http://goo.im/devs/TeamGummy/Roms/Targa
For that gummy ROM do you only flash that one, becsuse the Gapps are part of it?
no there is also a Gapps package for it as well....i'm sure its on their site.
I did not see it unless it isin a different slot than the ROMs. A link would help
I just got my broken charger replaced so I haven't really been following development. Which ICS rom is best developed and gives the best performance and experience?
As far as I understand it, there is just one at the moment. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370873
What can be confusing is that as it's still alpha, you don't see official Cyanogen nightlies for this development effort yet. However several wonderful individuals have stepped forward to fill this need for the interim.
The other choice is if you wish to have opengl rendering turned on or not.
Soon, I'm sure you'll have four choices as 3.x kernel development is going on as well, so you'll eventually need to choose between the 2.x kernel with or without opengl and 3.x kernel with or without opengl.
What fun! But all of them are excellent.
I've used the builds from here (both opengl and not) and have been quite happy.
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I've used the builds from here (both opengl and not) and have been quite happy.
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Yeah by best rom I really meant opengl vs non opengl. Which one is better?
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Yeah by best rom I really meant opengl vs non opengl. Which one is better?
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Non is more stable with snappier performance. But only plays flash with Opera Mobile.
Krylon360, with open communication from the Nook Devs, has released AOKP for the Nook Color.
It can be found here: http://goo.gl/9Z4BR
It's nice to have some more options, and that's what AOKP is all about.
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Krylon360, with open communication from the Nook Devs, has released AOKP for the Nook Color.
It can be found here: http://goo.gl/9Z4BR
It's nice to have some more options, and that's what AOKP is all about.
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Thanks! I'm gonna try this one.
thanks for posting that link 12paq, I have been waiting for AOKP for the nook. I've been running it for the last few hours and its running pretty nice. a few glitches here and there but nothing major, and I haven't noticed any major difference performance wise compared to cm9. big thanks to Krylon360.
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thanks for posting that link 12paq, I have been waiting for AOKP for the nook. I've been running it for the last few hours and its running pretty nice. a few glitches here and there but nothing major, and I haven't noticed any major difference performance wise compared to cm9. big thanks to Krylon360.
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It's a bit buggy, but so is CM9, but maybe just a bit less. I did get Hulu to play a "House" episode, Netflix is a no go. When and if the new kernel comes out then we will likely see some performance increases to CM9 based builds.
To be on topic, I'd reluctantly recommend CM7 for the best overall Nook build, even though CM9 is very functional and fun. The Nook is not my only tablet and I use it for light reading and hardcore experimenting (I am head test monkey for my dev friends of higher aptitude, lol) I always want to be on the cutting edge, however performance and options can suffer. This tablet has been a blast as well as a fantastic learning tool for me, but as a daily runner, not so much anymore.
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To be on topic, I'd reluctantly recommend CM7 for the best overall Nook build, even though CM9 is very functional and fun.
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I second that! Cm7 is by far the most stable ROM on the nook color. Also, I have gotten used to having my "back" button on the bottom right corner that I'm not running CM9 until they can change that.
Do you use the same cm9 rom for bootable sd card as you would to flash?
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As a general rule yes... the "recovery mode" script on Verygreen's sd install will modify the way the installer script works to install correctly...
there is an exception:
Racks' tripple boot sd has to have the files modified prior to placing on SD... so it knows which to install as primary and alternate.
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I second that! Cm7 is by far the most stable ROM on the nook color. Also, I have gotten used to having my "back" button on the bottom right corner that I'm not running CM9 until they can change that.
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For me, since I dont spend so much time on games anymore, I made CM9 as my daily system. For sure it lags a bit at speed, in comparison to CM7, but other than that is perfectly fine.
i tried the AOKP version listed earlier and i agree its nicer and smoother than the CM9 thats going right now but i have noticed with both its less responsive than my CM7..
anyone else having this issue or is it just because its a working progress?
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i tried the AOKP version listed earlier and i agree its nicer and smoother than the CM9 thats going right now but i have noticed with both its less responsive than my CM7..
anyone else having this issue or is it just because its a working progress?
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snag build 40 from goo app off the store flash that...
krylon360 did some amazing work on it its fast ...
I have tried all the CM7 from the SD Card and now from the eMMC and although I love how they run, I'm very please and happy how my Nook is running with Samiam CM9 build from eMMC. I have tried eyeballer and krylon360 builds yet for some reason they both make my Nook freeze at times while with the Samiam build I don't have that problem. I have change the launcher to ADW Ex since the Trebuchet launcher do uses more RAM than ADW. I play many games, browse the internet and just about everything. I know that there's some features that are still not working but they are not so essentials for me anyway. I don't use Netflix, the Youtube HD work sometimes and sometimes it doesn't (can't explain how or why since there are reports that HD doesn't work on CM9 yet) but I can deal with that. Again, overall I'm sticking with CM9, hoping that sooner or later the will come with an official build. Thanks for all the hard work that everyone here does.
I have found krylon360's AOKP port for the Nook Color to be more responsive and smoother than the CM9 nightly builds. Being used to using AOKP on the Galaxy Nexus, it's nice to see those power features available on the Nook as well.
Definitely looking forward to krylon360's next AOKP release! :good:
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I have found krylon360's AOKP port for the Nook Color to be more responsive and smoother than the CM9 nightly builds. Being used to using AOKP on the Galaxy Nexus, it's nice to see those power features available on the Nook as well.
Definitely looking forward to krylon360's next AOKP release! :good:
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I second/third Krylon's AOKP. I' ve neen tinkering with all the ROM's and this is the best I've experienced so far
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I second/third Krylon's AOKP. I' ve neen tinkering with all the ROM's and this is the best I've experienced so far
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I'll give this a try tonight.
I've been happily running CM 7.1 for a long time, waiting for the ICS release. Got tired of waiting and installed a CM9 nightly a couple days ago. It was sluggish and many freezes resulted; not ready for prime time yet.
So I've just flashed OmniROM on my LG Optimus 4X HD (p880). Probably this is the first unofficial build, built from Gerrit repos, I'm really proud of myself.
I'm pretty impressed that there were only a few changes needed and almost everything works, only BT doesn't work (easy to fix). I really like the quick settings flipping and how it shows Wi-Fi IP address when flipped. :good: I attach some screenshots.
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So I've just flashed OmniROM on my LG Optimus 4X HD (p880). Probably this is the first unofficial build, built from Gerrit repos, I'm really proud of myself.
I'm pretty impressed that there were only a few changes needed and almost everything works, only BT doesn't work (easy to fix). I really like the quick settings flipping and how it shows Wi-Fi IP address when flipped. :good: I attach some screenshots.
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Is this build available for download? Really eager to try it out
And will you be maintaining for the P880 on a Nightly/Weekly/whenever flexibly based? Sorry for asking that, just curious
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Is this build available for download? Really eager to try it out
And will you be maintaining for the P880 on a Nightly/Weekly/whenever flexibly based? Sorry for asking that, just curious
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Not yet. It's not even built from published sources, though there isn't much change in published ones yet.
Yes, probably I will.
Nice to see
In terms of going forward in terms of builds, we will be addressing these issues when we can. For now though, Omni isn't "officially" released in any kind of binary packages.
When the time comes, we will invoke the release processes, which will give nightly builds, with a weekly "tagged build". On Omni, nightly builds are expected to be stable, and encourage bug reports on them. A "weekly" is just a nightly that is tagged as "working fine", for those who don't want to update every day.
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For now though, Omni isn't "officially" released in any kind of binary packages.
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Not anymore: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481929
When OmniROM is going to be released on Nexus 4?
I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
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I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
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I hope it looks like AOSP out of the box, who cares about CM/AOKP?
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I hope it looks like AOSP out of the box, who cares about CM/AOKP?
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Considering cm/aokp look just like aosp...I care it dont look like that o.o
Can somebody who's already built and run the ROM do a hands-on impressions video of it?
mgbotoe said:
I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
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The current look is the "AOSP" look. I imagine that longer term, there will be reason to look into modular theming systems. A lot of people want a "pure android" look, and generally the best way to avoid breaking things is to make any themes optional extras.
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The current look is the "AOSP" look. I imagine that longer term, there will be reason to look into modular theming systems. A lot of people want a "pure android" look, and generally the best way to avoid breaking things is to make any themes optional extras.
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Thank you, you kind sir for the response
Sounds really nice guys!!! Happy to see entropy and xplod working on android roms again after the cm thingy! Also nice to see that maxwen is working on this!
Made a build for the Nexus 10. I installed it breefly and from what i could see is that it is indeed mostly AOSP. Nice touch is the rotating tiles. If you rotate the wifi tile, you will see the ip adres.
Anyway i am still too much used to some CM additions (like the ability to close all apps at once).
It is a good start and will keep an eye on the development.
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Made a build for the Nexus 10. I installed it breefly and from what i could see is that it is indeed mostly AOSP. Nice touch is the rotating tiles. If you rotate the wifi tile, you will see the ip adres.
Anyway i am still too much used to some CM additions (like the ability to close all apps at once).
It is a good start and will keep an eye on the development.
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More features on the way
It's mostly AOSP right now, we are currently in the process of adding a lot of the "useful" parts we know and love. If you want to get involved, feel free to do so on Gerrit.
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More features on the way
It's mostly AOSP right now, we are currently in the process of adding a lot of the "useful" parts we know and love. If you want to get involved, feel free to do so on Gerrit.
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So another build for i9500
Everything is working except Bluetooth
Love it ^^
I've installed tilal6991's build on my Xperia T and it works like a charm. No superuser for some reason but otherwise it's perfect! Can't wait for this project to mature
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Made a build for HTC Explorer,and it's running great,albeit with a few bugs(most are easy to fix)
The major thing i noticed was that all 4.3 roms for this device have a "lockscreen lag bug",but this doesn't!
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Made a build for HTC Explorer,and it's running great,albeit with a few bugs(most are easy to fix)
The major thing i noticed was that all 4.3 roms for this device have a "lockscreen lag bug",but this doesn't!
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Woah dude, you got this running on an Explorer? That thing is like...ancient. I didn't even think it would be capable of Android 4.1+ Props!
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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Tanmaynarang said:
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
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Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
Connor Baker
THEBANDIT420 said:
CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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I've never experienced this, but I can see it happening because of the smaller range of kernels (since it's CAF).
Connor Baker said:
Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
Connor Baker
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Valid points, I see CyanogenMod being geared as much more developer friendly and extensible, they even have better documentation for AOSP's tools than AOSP does
I want the ROM to be stable and fast, but also ready for customization, where I see AOSP not being very extensible.
So speed and stability is democracy now?
Actually if you are building a ROM from source, you are better off starting with aosp and merging the caf patches then go from there. You can look at patch commits/gerrit to see how to add in the features that you want since the code is normally available to see and will give you what line and all. In the process, you have something to call your own and learn the coding structure and source which is invaluable
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cm, fast? lmao..
simms22 said:
cm, fast? lmao..
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Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
He is Right about CM
tommypacker said:
Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
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The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
v3ng3anc32002 said:
The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
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cm was fast until about mid 2012. then they just started piling on as much as possible into the rom and it has been slower since. when steve(cyanogen) used to spend much time working on cm kernel, thats when cm was known for speed, back in the beginning and a little after cm started. back then, they werent about feature, more about minimalism. now its all about feature.
AOSP>CM
Always.
At any aspect.
CM has become so low and weak ROM since 2013. In the past it was the fastest and the most non-bull**** custom firmware but now as it's available for so many devices it's become sluggish, slow and the quality doesn't even exist. Another thing against CM is that they decided to use CAF code on Nexus devices. I can't understand it as well as other devs working in Nexus sections. I remember CM7 on my legendary HTC G2. It was so fast and damn feature-filled as for those times. Now it's gone. Formerly, my first thought on custom ROMs was CM, now it's quite different... I am so disappointed with CM nowadays.
Just my opinion tho ?
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The hell are people knocking caf code for??? It is aosp code with fixes for specific hardware by the people who actually make the hardware, wtf would you not use it for????
As far as cm fast, bwhahahahahaha, it hasn't been fast since about cm4 back on the g1/mytouch when dwang came into the picture. Cm's goal evolved to bleeding edge features and getting on as many devices as possible while dwang was straight aosp Roms with speed and stability as the goal
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If you own a nexus CyanogenMod is just as stable if not more so. Latest nightly is flawless.
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
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faster than velocity?
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faster than velocity?
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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A real test would be turning animations completely off and seeing what's faster. That's where real speed and optimisation can be noticed. 1.0 is just too damn slow.
Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
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Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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calyxim said:
Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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stock jellybean??? kitkat??
I'm stock unrooted on my n5 so far, running art and no animations. Feels blazingly fast to me. I miss custom Roms for the themes and a couple features they usually include but other than that stock has been almost 100% stable even with art.
I reboot it once every week or two and saw one soft reboot the other day in the couple months I've had it, not sure what caused it.
Still trying to decide if its worth rooting and what ROM to run. I like art which rules out stock with xposed.
I've been a chronic ROM flasher on every phone I've had until this one. It just works so good I'm afraid to mess with it. Especially when I've got warranty.
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