Why the OB is not that great... - LG Optimus Black

Mmmm The Optimus Black is a phone classified in the upper mid-range phones, sporting 1Ghz and a very nice and sleek design and a brilliant screen!
BUT.... I own an Optimus Black since this February, replacing my broken Motorola Defy which i adored...
In the beginning it was just amazing! First thing I did was updating my OB, enjoying the 4" NOVA screen, and sleek design!
Everything was alright but, you know, a phone is boring without rooting and flashing!
There's the problem....
LACK OF SOFTWARE SUPPORT
... I mean.... Even my old Motorola Defy had a super stable CM7, MIUI, Mokee, ICS and other super cool roms when I bought my OB...
In the beginning I though the Optimus Black was more popular than Defy! But where are the devs...
I realised how popular the Defy is, so many users... which means so many devs!! ((
It is undeniable to see that the Defy forum have 1000s of devs, all helping each other, pulling out roms from their imagination...
Without sounding selfish, It is sad to see our community being small, compared to the other popular phones.
Today I checked the defy in development section, and they already ported stable CM9, MIUI v4, Mokee, and even CM10, AOKP and CM10!!! WTF...
However, I think the real culprit must be LG who delivers horrible software support...
An ICS coming probably next year..... OR NEVER
An incomprehensible laggy software on a 1Ghz device....
No significant response to customers' demand...
Make empty promises...
They prefer to make new customers, and leave existing ones behind, however, do they have an idea how important existing customers are?
We are the one who create and alter the reputation of LG. New customers are not unlimited... There is a boundary...
In other words, not caring about us, existing customers, will downgrade their reputation, and new customers won't exist for them...
I think the Optimus lack will be the last Lg phone I'll ever buy....
Lg is supposed to keep us satisfy with their OWN product as long as possible, by providing software updates...
It should look at Apple, who, though being a quite greedy company, at least provides software updates to older iPhone/iPod models!
By doing this, it shows how supportive it is for their existing customers, and new customers will say: "Wow, I'm sure to use my iPhone for at least 2-3 years!"
LG seems to be the greediest company....
Damn how I miss my Motorola Defy
One thing for sure, I probably won't miss my Optimus Black
Next will probably be a Nokia, Motorola, HTC, well anything else except LG -__-
Well that's what I wanted to say... I really wanted to share my feelings about LG and stuffs... Sorry if it is an inappropriate place to do it xD
There are points where I may sound unfair or selfish, but hey it is my opinion... We may discuss about it, but don't flame me...

Just a short question: Why did you buy OB then? You could have looked into the forum even before buying the phone... And why didnt you rebuy a Defy, if it was soo good? We all know, how bad LG software support is But I think the main problem is, that only few ppl got the device and can contribute to it... Why dont you learn more about android yourself and try to contribute as well? Wouldnt that be a point to begin with? Plus we simply got a "bad chipset" or at least it is hardly supported by TI :/

I think its not a bad chipset but bad supported one by TI..
They want to sell the OMAP 4/5 chipset, that's understandable in TI's point of view.

N00BY0815 said:
Just a short question: Why did you buy OB then? You could have looked into the forum even before buying the phone... And why didnt you rebuy a Defy, if it was soo good? We all know, how bad LG software support is But I think the main problem is, that only few ppl got the device and can contribute to it... Why dont you learn more about android yourself and try to contribute as well? Wouldnt that be a point to begin with? Plus we simply got a "bad chipset" or at least it is hardly supported by TI :/
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i bought the OB because it looked soo good and was the cheapest I could find for such quality... Eh.. rebuying the same phone.. My dad would probably say "U mad!?" lol If I was allowed, I would rebuy the defy definitely...
I am not disliking the Optimus Black at all, but only the creator behind it...
Learning more about Android... mmm maybe it's possible for me since I'm in holidays Maybe coding, etc....
But it will take so much time before even helping expert devs xD
True that TI sucks! So many things don't work well or is unsupported by TI
If only OB had a Snapdragon... lol we would get Sense lol...

WIIstpM said:
i bought the OB because it looked soo good and was the cheapest I could find for such quality... Eh.. rebuying the same phone.. My dad would probably say "U mad!?" lol If I was allowed, I would rebuy the defy definitely...
I am not disliking the Optimus Black at all, but only the creator behind it...
Learning more about Android... mmm maybe it's possible for me since I'm in holidays Maybe coding, etc....
But it will take so much time before even helping expert devs xD
True that TI sucks! So many things don't work well or is unsupported by TI
If only OB had a Snapdragon... lol we would get Sense lol...
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Yea. Agreed. As we stirred up trouble here, TI has added 2 more devs into 3630's development and increased its speed of fixing compatibility issues
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Yea. Agreed. As we stirred up trouble here, TI has added 2 more devs into 3630's development and increased its speed of fixing compatibility issues
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Oh that's rather good news!

all phone makers suck at software updates (only 10% of the market has ics). the difference is made by devs or lack of them in this case.

WIIstpM said:
Oh that's rather good news!
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So lets stir up more trouble!!!
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SoulExertz said:
So lets stir up more trouble!!!
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lets troll their HQ for more support on our device

I believe our OB is promising since there are so many awesome developer in our community.
agree with me ?:laugh:

Very well said.. I think my next phone will be a Nexus device.
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well well gentlemen, its technology and we are humans with wants that's why some might find that ob sucks
if you just sit and see about each and every phone, also think about your beloved ob's capabilities and what you loved at first...you'll find it pretty good again
sometimes i think about just updating blah blah then i say to myself...its a phone dude!
not a console, not a tv, not this and that...it serves its purpose (youtube, facebook, HSDPA, skype......................)
if we see well, by flashing everytime (though its fun) we just dont use the device for its intended purpose
i still want updates and new stuffs though
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Very well said.. I think my next phone will be a Nexus device.
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me too
either samsung, htc or a nexus

well.. guess that means LG listens, even if they mostly dont respond.
This is my first lg product and im pretty happy, but I just cant for the life of me figure out why they wouldnt optimize battery performance themselves... it seems so.. lazy

Just wait for d final release of ICS til dec.
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I think that the OB its a very good phone, its cheap, light, fast and very customizable...
However, the battery sucks!!

You say in the title that OB sucks, and yet the only thing you complain about is the lack of support by LG, and consequently lack of stable shiny roms
That does not make a phone suck.
It still works above average with GB and some custom roms, that give it a really good performance and battery life. As you also say, it's a mid-range phone, and for that category and quality/price ratio, I believe it's one of the best phones out there.
Don't get me wrong, I'd also wish we had more support from LG no doubt. I just don't think it's fair coming here stating that a phone sucks, just because it doesn't have the roms you like.

il1cit said:
You say in the title that OB sucks, and yet the only thing you complain about is the lack of support by LG, and consequently lack of stable shiny roms
That does not make a phone suck.
It still works above average with GB and some custom roms, that give it a really good performance and battery life. As you also say, it's a mid-range phone, and for that category and quality/price ratio, I believe it's one of the best phones out there.
Don't get me wrong, I'd also wish we had more support from LG no doubt. I just don't think it's fair coming here stating that a phone sucks, just because it doesn't have the roms you like.
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A phone with a lack of software support or inferior OS makes the phone quite not worth buying! What will be a phone without a good OS/rom?
Take example; nokia phones with Symbian S60.
Because of the inferior OS, many people say these phones sucks, and they are not wrong...
The software also represents a major part of a phone's quality.
Another example: HTC HD2 has a tremendous amount of roms, even extending it's OS support.
yet having an inferior hardware specs than OB, I find the HD2 a great phone, not only because of it's huge software support, but also for it's stable rom, making the phone just even better..
It is not about the roms i like personally, but it is about satisfying ALL OB owners...
The battery life of the OB can still be improved by much, IF LG showed software support by optimising the OS for the OB.
Agree that it's one the best mid-range phone for it's quality and price, but just far away from the elite ones (Galaxy S/Xperia Arc,Nexus S,etc)
Moreover having TI processor makes the OB even less appealing for devs and LG...
Of course my arguments may not be the ones you'll agree with... since it's my opinion...
So according to me, the software determines whether a phone is good or not.. You may not be of the same state of mind as me
I appreciate that you show strong arguments for saying why the OB doesn't suck, this will keep a balance and prevent bias or any conflicts, as my objective was not to create bias, but to show my opinion about it, AND to allow other users to express themselves about it

Are you seriously comparing Symbian with Gingerbread? That's not a real argument, sorry. If Gingerbread was as bad as Symbian I would be the first to toss my phone out the window.
Gingerbread is not an inferior OS (like Symbian), it's just outdated.
Of course software is very important, who said it wasn't? That's why we all love Android My point was that just because OB doesn't have the last shiny version of ICS, doesn't make it garbage.
It still has a very good mobile OS and very good specs, regarding its price. So it can't suck, sorry

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Are you seriously comparing Symbian with Gingerbread? That's not a real argument, sorry. If Gingerbread was as bad as Symbian I would be the first to toss my phone out the window.
Gingerbread is not an inferior OS (like Symbian), it's just outdated.
Of course software is very important, who said it wasn't? That's why we all love Android My point was that just because OB doesn't have the last shiny version of ICS, doesn't make it garbage.
It still has a very good mobile OS and very good specs, regarding its price. So it can't suck, sorry
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Hmm.. Honestly i find Symbian Belle FP1 as efficient as Gingerbread... I would fall for a Nokia Pureview 808 anytime xD
True though... it's not garbage... Maybe I should replace the word "sucks" by another weaker word lol

WIIstpM said:
Hmm.. Honestly i find Symbian Belle FP1 as efficient as Gingerbread... I would fall for a Nokia Pureview 808 anytime xD
True though... it's not garbage... Maybe I should replace the word "sucks" by another weaker word lol
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Now I accept the title, and it is in fact not that great that we perhaps won't have ICS.
As for Pureview... THAT CAMERA!
EDIT: This is just amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21XUNO-_-0c

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hi, about to buy an optimus 2x, any suggestions?

just broke my galaxy s for the third time, so i think its time to move on. i have to decide to move to an optimus 2x, or an atrix. what u guys think? From what i saw, optimus have a better camera, what means a lot for me, lg have the best cellphone cameras imo. atrix have what it seens a little more speed and more space (16gb)
what do you guys suggest me?
I would not but a LG ever again. Imho Sony camera is much better.
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sony camera is cool too, but locked bootloader and still no dual core phone (or am i late?)
o2x imo is better than the atrix, the atrix has more memory so if that's what your after then get that, i love the design and shape and size of my o2x and if it wasn't for the ****ty lg support and nvidia ****ing with us by holding back vital drivers needed for ICS dev then this phone would be the best iv ever had.
The camera is pretty great iv never seen the atrix camera so cant compare tho.
The benchmarks tests always seem to show the o2x to be ahead of the atrix even tho they both have a tegra 2 chipset.
But with the customs roms this phone is pretty decent, its fast responsive, get a custom home screen and it will be smooth as you can imagine, the lg home screen is rather choppy but i use it because i like the way you can organize apps and games into separate category rather than just throwing them together into a big mess if you can do that with adw or go launcher then someone please tell me how so i can switch.
I only paid £200 for my o2x brand new so i cant complain too much, defo worth it compared to the 400-500 they are asking for that overpriced crap called the sgs2, decent phone.... ****ty price tag, no phone is worth that much.
In Australia there are close to no people using Optimus 2xes due to no one selling them on plans/contracts. Every second person has a galaxy s2 though so they can't be that bad.
I would lean towards avoiding the atrix due to the locked bootloader. Apparently there's a 50% chance of bricking it.
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If you can get it for £300 or less this is an amasing phone with cyangemod on it. Nvidias playing ball now so ics will be brill on here. Theres even rumours that yhe cm team have a alpha build of ics all features working minus camera. Its looking rosey and bright for this phone. I love it plays everything i throw at it, games, vids and music
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paul_cad44 said:
If you can get it for £300 or less this is an amasing phone with cyangemod on it. Nvidias playing ball now so ics will be brill on here. Theres even rumours that yhe cm team have a alpha build of ics all features working minus camera. Its looking rosey and bright for this phone. I love it plays everything i throw at it, games, vids and music
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That for the g2x and since the nvidia hal drivers havnt been released i seriously doubt it works very well.
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ok guys, really thanks! the optimus 2x have an open bootloader right? man i think i flashed my sgs more than 100 times.
better go for the s2..lg support is sh*t
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That for the g2x and since the nvidia hal drivers havnt been released i seriously doubt it works very well.
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It's quite possible that they sent RC what he needed, he's been asking them since day one, and is a serious coder, rather than the 'cook' type 'dev'.
I would say get one, the stock GB is apparently much improved over froyo, and CyanogenMod is just great, that's the reason I bought mine in the first place.
If I hadn't have managed to get a freebie, I'd keep mine.
For its money LG O2X is the best phone.
Please, don't buy that phone!
It's have the worst supported in the WORLD.
Nvidia and LG = S**T
I sell my phone, and Im really happy with that choice.
And I don't wanna see that phone again.
The best choice for you is the HTC, more beautiful and intuitive homescreen, custom roms, etc...
And forget about the Galaxy S2, this only good because the Super Amoled, and Camera, nothing more...
Cumps
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
infestedd said:
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
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Lol no don't. the Optimus is better than the Atrix.
infestedd said:
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
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Wow....have you been reading, gl with that crap an its locked bootloader.
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eraldo said:
Wow....have you been reading, gl with that crap an its locked bootloader.
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Yeah common trend, people ask for advice then ignore it and buy whatever they want. Perhaps this thread will be useful for those whose stumble across it on Google.
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Yes you should buy it, looks great and does what its supposed to in no time. Got mine today and it came with Gingerbread out the box.
gr8 phone..
dude its a lovely phone.. go for it.. with stock gingerbread, its awesome no more stupid issues..
the htc high end smartphones not near as fast like the o2x or the sgs2, the hardware component quality is low, if htc not change that it will be died. maybe the rom is good but it just candy.. if you want a phone what is broken often go ahead and buy a htc. i had many htc, i never ever want again.
sgs2 it will be a good choice if isn't very overpriced. by the way the samsung company almost act like the apple, soon booth company will be in the android users blacklist. o2x is a good choice but the stock lg rom is a crap, you need to flash one of the custom roms!
vadonka said:
the htc high end smartphones not near as fast like the o2x or the sgs2, the hardware component quality is low, if htc not change that it will be died. maybe the rom is good but it just candy.. if you want a phone what is broken often go ahead and buy a htc. i had many htc, i never ever want again.
sgs2 it will be a good choice if isn't very overpriced. by the way the samsung company almost act like the apple, soon booth company will be in the android users blacklist. o2x is a good choice but the stock lg rom is a crap, you need to flash one of the custom roms!
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You obviously havent tried the sensation

Lg Optimus 2x or iPhone 4 16GB?

Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )
Avfcman said:
Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )
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Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.
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Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.
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Well i have had a iPod Touch 3RD Gen, it was always Jailbroken, though am looking a change from the usual "Oh Look at this thing, its amazing, even though Android has already had it" But i do like how everything just works.
Though, having something that runs android would give me a change to mess around with things and tinker, which i like to do
Just need to make a decision before the 11th
The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .
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The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .
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Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it
Avfcman said:
Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it
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You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
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eraldo said:
You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
Plus we have both flash and html5 support apple rejecting flash had nothing to do with performance issues it was to do with itunes and other crap that's why i HATE apple and won't ever buy an apple product.
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The reason why i didnt even bothered with the iphone 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Hi,
There is a pretty nice comparision of the 2x and the Ione on youtube... When i remember correctly it is from androidcentral ... Have a look at it, mightbe interesting for you.
Regards
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man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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jefbeck said:
man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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Yeah, I'd personally go for an O2X too. But seeing that the other option is an IP4, I'd take the O2X hands down. The IP4 is going to get old real fast once the IP5 is released Q2 to Q3 this year.
While the O2X is scheduled for ICS Q2 of this year. (give or take 2 quarters) lol.
If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.
I have a optimus 2x. Bought it some days ago. By use its amazing. I accept that its software has some glitches but who has not? And moreover when you get a good hardware you should not really worry of software, as you will get it , its a open source.
I like apple as a media source. You told you have a ipod touch. I think its more than enuf from apple. You can enjoy there OS there touch feel and the apps. But apple doesnt allow you to do much customizations. It doesnt five yoi the degree of freedom android gives. So i would siggest you. Go for optimus 2x rather than Iphone 4 because you already have a iox device ipodtouch.
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Hello!
It is always about your needs...
But I see one big problem with the iPhone 4 16GB – your stuck with these 16GB and from my personnel experience this isn’t really much. I ordered a 32GB SDHC the moment I ordered my LG P990 and it is almost full including the build in 8GB… I actually very tempted to try one of the 64GB SDXD cards available – will order one and try it when the prices come down little more.
And compared to an iPhone 4 the LG P990 should be faster – I have seen some tests on youtube – but don’t have a link handy right now – and these tests where actually with the stock browser on stock rom…and custom roms are even a lot faster.
The rest is about taste…
IMHO Android is more versatile and I like the UI concept more, but this is purely dependent on what you like.
My tip go to some store where you can actually touch the phone and play around with it a little – even though the LG P990 is on stock not as fast ass it could be, but you get a basic idea of the look and feel.
I made this comparison between iPhone 4, SG2, HTC Sensation and LG P990…now guess which phone won…
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If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.
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much smaller, and little bit better
Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
eraldo said:
Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
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Yes, your are most probably right and that is why we should try to do better here - especially since many people around here will know the look and feel of the iPhone 4 too...
And as I wrote I personally like the UI concept of android more and he should try both before making that decision.
Speedwise the Optimus 2x should be a little faster – but not that much since I must admit the software of the iPhone is usually over all a little bit better optimized.
But IMHO the biggest con against any iPhone and also to the most recent Google phone is the lack of an SD-card slot – this is/would be a absolute no go for me…
if IP4 would had 4" screen i wouldnt even thinking.
Thanks everyone for the feedback, I think I might give it a chance, though i will have to order it from Amazon UK as there are no phone stores around my town that stock O2x's.
I also didn't post on an apple section as I know what the replys would be to buy the iPhone as 50%-70% of apple owners only buy apple products as they Have the fruit logo and defend it.
Just another thing to touch on, if I did get the O2x i wouldn't root it for approx. 6-8months in-case an issue would occur and therefore i would be able to use warranty. What is the Stock rom like? And is it Usable?
Rooting:
I would assume rooting is a bit like jail-breaking, just run a program and its done?
and flashing roms, you just put them on an SD card and flash using clockworkrecovery?
Thanks again
i will say buying an iPhone4 is just an action of ifanboy
Rooting is not difficult, just as easy as jailbreaking the iOS devices. I sold my iPod touch 4th gen a few months ago and I know the differences between these products.
First of all, I want to remark that the optimus 2x still has a lot of issues. Random reboots, sleep of deaths, charging BSODs, memory leaking. These are very common issues which I experienced myself. Especially if you use the stock LG rom, make sure you remember this.
Most probably you won't void your warranty if you flash custom roms because you will be able to flash back to stock LG rom with kdz/smartflash methods.
If you are looking for a stable phone I honestly would not recommend the O2X at this moment. It is a nice phone with current CM7-kangs or modded kernel/modded stock rom, but the LG roms are real crap imo and you may still have problems even with xda roms.
Samsung for example has much better stock roms. You might look for the Galaxy R for example which looks great to me.
Nevertheless the o2x is really cheap for a dualcore phone with decent IPS screen. Real bang for the bucks. It's so much faster than my previous iPod Touch 4th gen. (Same processor as iPhone 4)
If you have no problems with claiming warranty if you have issues amd if you dont care to flash custom roms, the o2x could be a good choice.
(Sorry for language mistakes, my native language is Dutch)
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Guys, it was a pleasure to share with you good and long hours, I would not forget anyone, but to name a few, topogigi, spica, carburano, stefan, civato, hell, and so many others who have made this wonderful mobile is not left in something that could be and was not much will have to change things back to LG, a shame but their big machines are not accompanied at all with their development, not want to elaborate more, greetings to all and many thank you very much everyone, I hope we'll ever read, by the way, I switch to Sony Xperia S, we read.
No!!!!!
What it got that 2x aint got?
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spica1234 said:
No!!!!!
What it got that 2x aint got?
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Stability maybe? I mean not even with your wounderful kernel and tweaks its become stable. One wants to be able to answer the phone without it locks up/powers off/TERMINATE CALLS/whatever. It gets better for every version, but never good. I think the hardware is flawed, for everyone. The designer probably got fired. I have, however, not done the switch to 20Q yet,because I don't think it'll help. I am trying CM right now, but that's even ****tier, can't understand why people like it. Sure, for apps and ram eating it's better, but it is terminating calls about 50% the time. I've tried so many ril/bb combinations that i've just lost interest.
Very nice looking phone the Xperia S.
Great Camera
REALLY nice screen
ICS very soon (if not at launch, can't remember)
1GB RAM
but, strangely only an Adreno 220 gpu in it.
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Stability maybe? I mean not even with your wounderful kernel and tweaks its become stable. One wants to be able to answer the phone without it locks up/powers off/TERMINATE CALLS/whatever. It gets better for every version, but never good. I think the hardware is flawed, for everyone. The designer probably got fired. I have, however, not done the switch to 20Q yet,because I don't think it'll help. I am trying CM right now, but that's even ****tier, can't understand why people like it. Sure, for apps and ram eating it's better, but it is terminating calls about 50% the time. I've tried so many ril/bb combinations that i've just lost interest.
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Yes thats absolutely right, I'm not taking LG's side but still may be it's me only but I have deep trust in Official ICS release of LG and regarding ICS sources they'd release. One must agree that LG seems now a days improved in SW update and bug fixes since V20 series and especially v20q is the most stable version LG has ever released. And late but sure they're working for monthly updates faster. Difference in previous LG SW update and bug fix with now has been much improved atleast they've realized and they're working on it. The good thing is that they're trying no matter for reduced sale due to lack of support or whatever.
I dont use CM so i am not aware about it bugs etc. But since froyo to v20q journey they've surprisingly progress faster although late as against other companies. Samsung or anyother companies do not provide so many beta leaks like LG has. One good thing is that atleast late but they're trying
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Lo_RaT_PeNaT said:
Guys, it was a pleasure to share with you good and long hours, I would not forget anyone, but to name a few, topogigi, spica, carburano, stefan, civato, hell, and so many others who have made this wonderful mobile is not left in something that could be and was not much will have to change things back to LG, a shame but their big machines are not accompanied at all with their development, not want to elaborate more, greetings to all and many thank you very much everyone, I hope we'll ever read, by the way, I switch to Sony Xperia S, we read.
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All the best

Optimus 2x worth buying?

Hey all,
I saw an offer: used optimus 2x for 100euros.
Question is: Is optimus worth buying? What about custom rom support? Is it decent anymore?
Many thanks for your answers in advance
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8100 Huawei Problem
when i was flashing every thing go ok but when the mobile started the only thing i see is
""""
sorry
the application
custom ABKs HIDDEN ( PROCESS COM.HUAWEI.ANDROID CUSTOM APK s hidden )has stopped unexpectedly . please try again
force close
and when i force close it comes again and again and never stops
plz tell me whats going wrong
..If I try any STOCK ROm..that stops half way...update fails..
Now I am STUCK what to do pleeez help..
I just picked one up very happy with it running cm7 only came from a blade tho so much better.
I think it's worth it.
It's a decent dual-core phone, probably not the best. but for 100
I'm not sure you'd get a better deal elsewhere. It overclocks easily
and Jellybean is going to come out and it should be interesting to see
what happens with our LG02X
worth buying WEEELLLL for me it was .... i got one for a lil less than 100euros, for a 2011 high class smartphone its golden (all accessory original box delivery inclued)
funniest i had a GT-I9000 he died, but the cheapest i could find beside that P990 was merely 50/100 euros more ... weird for a 2yrs old middle class smartphone (still the SGS is a wonderfull phone (normal one not S+ or other)
worth it? definitely!
the only thing that bugged me was Nvidia policy wich make the GT-I9000 more lively when it come to custom roms but XDA proved i can get ICS delicacy on mu P990 too
I managed to pick one up for £120 on eBay the other month. Quite chuffed with it so far. It's faster than my previous devices and the screen is much nicer.
I'm currently running Gingerbread MIUI but fancy trying something different.
ReiverBlade said:
worth buying WEEELLLL for me it was .... i got one for a lil less than 100euros, for a 2011 high class smartphone its golden (all accessory original box delivery inclued)
funniest i had a GT-I9000 he died, but the cheapest i could find beside that P990 was merely 50/100 euros more ... weird for a 2yrs old middle class smartphone (still the SGS is a wonderfull phone (normal one not S+ or other)
worth it? definitely!
the only thing that bugged me was Nvidia policy wich make the GT-I9000 more lively when it come to custom roms but XDA proved i can get ICS delicacy on mu P990 too
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I've also had original sgs. Awesome device. Voodoo sound, rom support, great.
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laehtis said:
Hey all,
I saw an offer: used optimus 2x for 100euros.
Question is: Is optimus worth buying? What about custom rom support? Is it decent anymore?
Many thanks for your answers in advance
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is it worth it? it all depends on what you wanna do with it, how much patience you have with LG's (lack of) support, and whether you enjoy flashing nightlies/kangs that are still under development.
I bought mine second hand at a similar price as yours, and for me, yes, it was definitely worth it. It's my first smartphone and for the combination of reasons stated above, I have quickly became a flashholic and frequent visitor to the xda. As a results, I've learned a lot about Android phones and became a passionate loyal fan of them, as well as a grateful supporter if the awesome developers in these forums.
So, again, it depends on why you're shopping for one but it was worth it for me.
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If its from XDA then ou can call ait totally worth it. Even same foot as a sgs III or a on X (with less power offcourse)
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100eur it is very good deal for the performace which you will get.. Overclock up to 1.5ghz, smooth tegra2 cpu, on stock rom I had weak battery, now i use tamasek's rom and on 1.3ghz it is so much better, but still best results on CM9, but it is useless without a cam and hardware support, so if you want to wait for official ICS release, you should get it. But keep in mind, try to never drop it, it is definitely not shock proof
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I think it's worth it.
It's a decent dual-core phone, probably not the best. but for 100
I'm not sure you'd get a better deal elsewhere. It overclocks easily
and Jellybean is going to come out and it should be interesting to see
what happens with our LG02X
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heh.. mate, they struggle to give us ICS and you dream about JB ?
thanks for your opinions. So official ICS update is on the way?
but if not, that's not a big deal, I like cm perfomance and I dont like bloats very much (but sense and touchwiz are good)
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heh.. mate, they struggle to give us ICS and you dream about JB ?
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I said JB in general, mind you once/if the drivers are released for ICS, JB isn't that big a step up. Even if the right drivers aren't released, JB roms should come out for O2X once the source code is out in 2 weeks, whether some things work or not!
For that sort of price you could do a lot worse, I've had a rough relationship with my o2x with it being full of bugs but it's worth it for those times that it does what it's supposed to. The only word of warning is it needs flashing, the stuff LG put on there isn't great so i've warned a few friends off knowing i'd be there technical support when they inevitably brick it, but as your on here I'm sure you'll be fine with this side of stuff.
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i fall in love with this phone is a beast with full of feature, the 4.0 inch IPS lcd display is better than samsung super amoled the colour is super natural and solid
If LG launched ICS, the devs here on XDA would certainly make a modified version of that ROM, and then we would unleash the phone's real power...
...but since the people at LG are a bunch of retards, I don't think it's worth waiting for an official update...
amdultra said:
i fall in love with this phone is a beast with full of feature, the 4.0 inch IPS lcd display is better than samsung super amoled the colour is super natural and solid
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I think so... the Display is beautifull... and sharp...
Sorry for my bad english..
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spyne82 said:
I think so... the Display is beautifull... and sharp...
Sorry for my bad english..
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I agree the display is beautiful... I've got friends using iPhone and they were still surprised how bright the display on this phone was....
Before using it, I had a HTC desire, and if people complained about the LG draining the battery too quickly, compared to my desire, the battery still lasts longer.
And so far, people complain about o2x rebooting for no reason, even if it did happen to me, so far it hasn't been a disturbance...
All in all, I think it is a great phone

Good Bye Optimus 2x

Hi,
I have Just Sold my Optimus 2x and got a new Sony Xperia Pro.It has Been Fun with The O2x Community.Learnt a Lot from the people Here.I Hope You all Get The ICS update Soon.
If Anyone from LG/Nvidia Reads This then Do me a favour and Go F*ck your selves.
We have a lot of patience! Good luck with the Sony
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manasgirdhar said:
Hi
If Anyone from LG/Nvidia Reads This then Do me a favour and Go F*ck your selves.
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Lol'd so hard! XD
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Me too, now im on SGN... O2x is auch dope Phone.
But...
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i don't want to change the tegra platform, i love zen pinball...i bought all tables...
Manas stay in touch
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I got the Galaxy Nexus last week on sale to replace my O2X, best decision ever. I will never buy another phone from LG again, fool me once...
KernelCrap said:
I got the Galaxy Nexus last week on sale to replace my O2X, best decision ever. I will never buy another phone from LG again, fool me once...
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why is the gnex so good ?
xilw3r said:
why is the gnex so good ?
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because it gets android updates fresh from the bakery in googleland :silly:
Why this tread?
I will for sure buy lg again and I like gb. All of you who replace it aren't interesting for us
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xilw3r said:
why is the gnex so good ?
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I feel a huge difference in terms of performance, and the O2X had a habbit of running out of RAM constantly, making it very laggy (this could be helped somewhat using CM7).
And don't even get me started on the whole BSOD while charging issue, that is just annoying - not being able to trust your phone at all (even if the issue seems to be rare with V20s).
The Galaxy Nexus is also capable of playing pretty much any video I can throw at it - even 1080p high profile. The O2X lagged horribly with pretty much any video I tried, mainly because most of my videos are encoded in high profile h264.
But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware, its the software - it is just great to know that you will receive the newest version of the OS in a timely manner, not delays after delays. And the releases are not filled with tons of crap (like F-Secure on the stock ROM or w/e the name of it is).
But to be fair, the O2X is a great phone (on CM7, hoping for ICS soon so it can have CM9), and I would have kept it for myself it if not for the cheap Galaxy Nexus
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But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware,
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Come again?
If you put a dual core on a pile of crap you get o2x. Worst phone ever, i hope to get rid of it soon.
Well today I bought G Nex too. Updated it to JB and it works damn smooth. Now I just have to sell my O2X
Gnex was my first Android phone got it back in January then I got the o2x for my wife then a gtab 10.1 and recently a gnote.. Tbh gnex its an hyper boring phone.. That thing its unbrickable and every rom out there its the same boring thing.. Noone likes to "change the stock feel" same features in all roms and stable as hell..
Everything works as it should.. And the forum its boring as hell.. Same applies for gnote.. But I kept gnote stock with touchwiz since I have cm9 on my gtab and stock jelly bean on the gnex... So actually I like the stress here and gtab forums about waiting for the releases xD
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Come again?
If you put a dual core on a pile of crap you get o2x. Worst phone ever, i hope to get rid of it soon.
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Did you even read what i wrote? I wrote: "But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware". With that sentence I mean that I would rather have a single core phone with proper software, than a dual core phone with terrible software. So basically we agree.
msedek said:
Tbh gnex its an hyper boring phone.. That thing its unbrickable and every rom out there its the same boring thing.. Noone likes to "change the stock feel" same features in all roms and stable as hell..
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I do not agree, the ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus might look pretty much the same on first glance, but the features are way different, for example Paranoid Android allows you to choose tablet mode and DPI per app.
Pretty much all ROMs built for the O2X are based on CyanogenMod.
02x is a good phone.. I just wish it wouldn't randomly lock up. I can't really ever trust it , in stressful situations like trying to open GPS while lost in Sydney traffic is sometimes is slow or freezes.
can't unlock from boot straight away because it might freeze etc.
I would like a more reliable phone.
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Yeah, I plan to sell my P990 and get a Galaxy Nexus too... If ICS comes to the P990 by then I may change my mind, but if not, I'm not sure how I'll sell it.
"LG P990 'Optimus 2X' dual-core smartphone.
"Runs Cyanogenmod 7 (Android 2.3), no promises of any more updates though.
"Performance is up there with the SGSII, but overheating and random reboots are normal."
...yeah, I wouldn't buy it.
/rant
My partner has an Xperia Pro. Apparently ICS is available (officially) for it? I've not seen it yet, and she's not willing to unlock it and get CM9 onto it. :/
Anyhoo, this forum is not the place to ask that.
...of course, that's at no fault of the community. Mostly it's LG's fault. Not necessarily for not releasing updates/drivers/etc, but for using awful, closed hardware.
Ah well. I'll hang around in the meantime. I'm not much of a dev, so I'm with the lurking crowd, complaining in these threads about LG and NVIDIA with the rest of y'all.
For those devs hanging around here, <3 you guise. Thanks for making this phone usable, maybe even enjoyable. ICS devs in particular, your patience (if any remains) is amazing, putting up with LG's silence and peeps like us demanding a 100% stable ROM. I imagine most of us understand the situation though. ^_^
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Did you even read what i wrote? I wrote: "But the thing that matters the most is not the hardware". With that sentence I mean that I would rather have a single core phone with proper software, than a dual core phone with terrible software. So basically we agree.
I do not agree, the ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus might look pretty much the same on first glance, but the features are way different, for example Paranoid Android allows you to choose tablet mode and DPI per app.
Pretty much all ROMs built for the O2X are based on CyanogenMod.
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Paranoid its also based on cm9.. All the features ARE the same with some slightly differences in ui.. All they have theme engine all the have toggles all they have integrated weather, all they have extended power menu, all they have t9 dialer, all they have twickable cpu/gpu settings, all they have color correction settings, all they have power savings options.. In the end they are all the same as for the tablet mode I have a tablet and it's not attractive to me in fact I like phone mode more and Wish I could get a paranoid android for tablet that turns the tablet into phone mode lol.. Well at least jelly bean brings that to the table I love the fact that the notification bar its in the top side of the screen just like the phone does.. So Google managed to consolidate even more the OS for tablet and phones making it looks and feels almost the same on both..
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Paranoid its also based on cm9.. All the features ARE the same with some slightly differences in ui.. All they have theme engine all the have toggles all they have integrated weather, all they have extended power menu, all they have t9 dialer, all they have twickable cpu/gpu settings, all they have color correction settings, all they have power savings options.. In the end they are all the same as for the tablet mode I have a tablet and it's not attractive to me in fact I like phone mode more and Wish I could get a paranoid android for tablet that turns the tablet into phone mode lol.. Well at least jelly bean brings that to the table I love the fact that the notification bar its in the top side of the screen just like the phone does.. So Google managed to consolidate even more the OS for tablet and phones making it looks and feels almost the same on both..
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So the problem is that there are no problems with the Galaxy Nexus, which makes it boring?
I aslo sold my O2X yesterday and bought a SGS3, what a difference. Like going from a Fred Flinstone "car" to a Lamborghini Spyder.

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