So, i have been secretly venturing deep inside P970. So this is what i have found:
These are two phones specs:
Optimus Black
1GHz ARMv7 Rev71 Proccessor
Two Types
FOP CM9 SUPERCHARGED
CM7 SUPERCHARGED, KICKEDASS KERNELISED & 3G SUPERCHARGED
iPhone 4S
1GHz Dual Core A5 chip (UV To 800MHz)
iOS 6 Beta 3
These reviews will be against Apple iPhone. (Apple will be the hit ratio)
GRAPHICS
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The Optimus black's Graphics rendering is the same as iPhone 4.
After bringing it to CM7, It renders thrice as fast, almost reaching the 4S
9/10 = So after ICS(FOP) it surpassed the 4S. But you will need to Supercharge.
SPEED
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The TI OMAP 3630 Is our hatred. It has caused many problems for us but was the best of its kind a year ago. What renders it useless in ICS?? The styroscopic Driver, which has caused Camera issues. But in overall, it is fast with a maximum 1GHz of speed
The iPhone 4S' Dual Core A5 Chip, Renders itself the fastest of its kind. But sadly, it is reduced of its maximum performance to 800MHz from 1GHz to conserve battery life. In overall, the OB has an advantage of 200MHz. But in reality, A5 Chip has something unknown inside to render its speed much faster than a 800MHz capable Chip. Making the 4S a tie with OB.
10/10 = At CM7 SUPERCHARGED
NETWORKING
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OB, Like any other phone, is capable of CDMA and GSM. But is so common. Therefore it shall lose in this comparison.
The 4S has 2 antennaes that can intelligently switch between each other for downloads, reaching a 4G capable phone speed. This makes OB Lose upside down. BUT. THE 4S GETS OWNED THIS TIME BY 3G SUPERCHARGER. Bringing OB up to 32MBps and winning an LTE Speed.
12/10 = CM7 3G SUPERCHARGED.
More will be up!! Suggest whatever category you want and i will stage a test immediately!
Next up:
RAM
BOOT SPEED
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I wanna know how to supercharge.... ive tried so hard, someone should just include it in their roms or someone should work on an easy package so we can have SOMETHING to look forward to while camera is being impossible
Dude... what is this? Everyone knows the iPhone 4s is better than the LG OB, example: gaming and performance and the screen. The iPhone can run all games very smooth and iOS is just simply smooth. So why compare them? If you had the choise everyone, who has brains, would choose the 4s over the LG OB..
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Dude... what is this? Everyone knows the iPhone 4s is better than the LG OB, example: gaming and performance and the screen. The iPhone can run all games very smooth and iOS is just simply smooth. So why compare them? If you had the choise everyone, who has brains, would choose the 4s over the LG OB..
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I wouldn't
And the 4s plays the games smooth becasue it is made for that specific device.
Not like android that has several 100 or even tousands devices.
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I wouldn't
And the 4s plays the games smooth becasue it is made for that specific device.
Not like android that has several 100 or even tousands devices.
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You're crazy if you would choose a OB over a 4s.
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You're crazy if you would choose a OB over a 4s.
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You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
Vinzgore said:
You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
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I'd have taken the 4s, sold it and bought a better android phone. :bbb
Vinzgore said:
You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
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So your choosing lag, slow updates and less games over smoothness, fast updates, more games, better camera and screen etc? Don't get me wrong, i love Android aswell but you gotta be real. If it was between an GS3 and a 4s the decision was way more difficult.
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So your choosing lag, slow updates and less games over smoothness, fast updates, more games, better camera and screen etc? Don't get me wrong, i love Android aswell but you gotta be real. If it was between an GS3 and a 4s the decision was way more difficult.
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Let me ask you a simple question. Do you like to mod your phone to your preference and to whatever you like?? If yes, then Android is the choice. iOS Can only do stupid repos you cant even change much of its looks. Unlike android. I can even change it to look 99% like WP7.5
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Choosing between GS3 and 4s is not too difficult, GS3 way better than 4s
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SoulExertz said:
Let me ask you a simple question. Do you like to mod your phone to your preference and to whatever you like?? If yes, then Android is the choice. iOS Can only do stupid repos you cant even change much of its looks. Unlike android. I can even change it to look 99% like WP7.5
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Hey! Did you know that you can set a custom wallpaper on the lockscreen and desktop on iPhones? hahaha ok just trolling.
on topic: iPhones are stupid. I can't stand the fact that most of my friends have an iPhone and everytime we meet they're waiting for my phone's new look while they are stuck with one look. Expensive useless crap Compared OB with my pal's iphone 4 and the iPhone couldn't keep up with the OB. just sayin'
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Hey! Did you know that you can set a custom wallpaper on the lockscreen and desktop on iPhones? hahaha ok just trolling.
on topic: iPhones are stupid. I can't stand the fact that most of my friends have an iPhone and everytime we meet they're waiting for my phone's new look while they are stuck with one look. Expensive useless crap Compared OB with my pal's iphone 4 and the iPhone couldn't keep up with the OB. just sayin'
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I used to have an iDevice, and i so much modded it that I ended up making it dual booting Android
It looked so minimal and so sleek, but that was the good times of Installer4 and iPhone OS 2.2.1
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I just want to say one thing that I love Android...
And the fact is that any open source OS will provide much customization in future also.
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I'd have taken the 4s, sold it and bought a better android phone. :bbb
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That was i i was thinking about right now
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That was i i was thinking about right now
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iPhone is bad as its iOS is only for iProducts. Android is widespread having many more customisations than iOS. So, thats why Android is booming now. And why did i get OB?? I was intrigue of the 700 nits NOVA. And of course, our cute mascots of the OS. iOS Doesent even have a mascot. -_- boring.
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SoulExertz said:
iPhone is bad as its iOS is only for iProducts. Android is widespread having many more customisations than iOS. So, thats why Android is booming now. And why did i get OB?? I was intrigue of the 700 nits NOVA. And of course, our cute mascots of the OS. iOS Doesent even have a mascot. -_- boring.
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As far as I remember SoulExertz, you wanted to port Jelly Bean to OB. Then you were looking for developers to help you with the kernel stuff.
Then you wanted to make a light ROM based on android 1.6 for OB. Then you said that you're going to fix the camera to help FOP team finish their CM9 project. Now you keep spamming the forums with your bull**** worthless threads.
Just quit trolling.
He's just a thanks meter whore.
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As far as I remember SoulExertz, you wanted to port Jelly Bean to OB. Then you were looking for developers to help you with the kernel stuff.
Then you wanted to make a light ROM based on android 1.6 for OB. Then you said that you're going to fix the camera to help FOP team finish their CM9 project. Now you keep spamming the forums with your bull**** worthless threads.
Just quit trolling.
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I can prove it to you. Im gonna release ALL three things in November. WITH NO BUGS
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He's just a thanks meter *****.
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Yea right, I'm sick and tire of iphone fan boys always bragging about how their iphone don't lag or freeze like android phones do! However that is a lie, I witness an iphone 4 crashed many times and this time I witness it on a youtube video the ultimate proof. Tbh in general in IOS is indeed smoother but that does not mean it doesn't lag which is my point, so yea everything looks so preety in IOS and all that but please get over your head iphone fan boys your icrap lags just as much or even more than any highend android phone.
For proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55qsOwU3Jo4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Lmfaooo people please foward it to 11:35 and watch the mighty iphone crashe, lag and freeze during pinch and zooming while the mighty galaxy 4G smoothly pinched and zoomed with no lag or crashes......
All I can say is this video was delightful to see and it probably was to all android users as it is proof, to shut iFanboys up, that their iphone isn't lag free at all. And this was just at pinch and zooming imagine other more complicated stuff. This have never happen to me with the G2, @ times a little lag here and there and only @ 800mhz, now @ 1.42ghz the lagging has disappear but it has never crashed like the iphone did in this video and also keep in mind it autofocus while pinch and zooming which the iphone and galaxy 4G doesn't.
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ
And then what's even more sad is android users actually agreeing with these iFanboys however I don't blame you because the iphone is pretty much overated and people make it sound way better than it is but do your research and you will find out that, we may suffer from force closing on apps but hey they suffer from constant crashes not just on an app but anywhere!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFQvKVWXug0
LOL so think twice when you say IOS has more quality or is lag free!, I have yet to experience my phone crashing like that LOL the only time it crashed was when I (like a dumbass) O/C to 1.5 ghz, I should've known better especially since xda members warn about these crashes past 1.4 ghz now its running fine @ 1.42 ghz hasn't crashed on me yet and its running smooth as butter.
What I really don't understand is where did people get IOS is this lag, crash free OS. And tbh I also believed on what ifanboys say until I've been comparing my cousins iphone 4 and notice these constant crashes. I got really scare about 2 weeks ago when his iphone 4 crashed on me, never experiencing this on my phone and believing OIS was crashed free, I though I damage his phone lol until he comes to me and tells me is normal lmaooo.
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My SGS2 don't even lag when under clocked to 500 MHz... So those proclaiming a piece of fruit doesn't lag should merely get the "meh, so what? Mine doesn't either" treatment...
Word...
I9000 CM7 nightly#14 @ + platypus kernel running stable @1.5ghz
pulser_g2 said:
My SGS2 don't even lag when under clocked to 500 MHz... So those proclaiming a piece of fruit doesn't lag should merely get the "meh, so what? Mine doesn't either" treatment...
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Lmaoooo see, hahaha I just tested mines U/C @ 360mhz and is still lag free, only thing is opening apps and stuff takes 1-2seconds slower than when stock or o/c. But yea this was just to show people that IOS is not better than android in terms of lag and crashes and even reboots like in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-06yKLd1qE
Lol since I gotten this Tmobile G2 replacement phone a week ago haven't had any reboots what so ever.
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My little old Samsung Captivate doesn't lag either.
Two words: GPU acceleration
iOS has it fully enabled through the whole system. Android has not. Rumors says that Google will do something about it in Ice Cream Sandwich, so stay tuned.
At least android doesn't show grey checker boards when scrolling down fast.
Who cares, if that's the only thing they can brag about then that's sad. At least android phones aren't held back like Apple does to iPhone
Iphones have hardware acceleration and android doesnt.
Only honeycomb has hardware acceleration and I've cream sandwich is supposed to include this feature
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Jepp, that's correct. Nice to see you outside the lady threads!
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BazookaAce said:
Two words: GPU acceleration
iOS has it fully enabled through the whole system. Android has not. Rumors says that Google will do something about it in Ice Cream Sandwich, so stay tuned.
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Yes I know the iphone has that but non the less it lags just as much as any high end android phone, and if ice cream sandwich sounds amazing with this gpu acceleration, android is smooth how it is now so imagine with this gpu acceleration thing
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If high end phones barely lag on android imagine how bad an iphone 2g would do!
Any ways you are sorta wrong you sound like youve never used ios for more than a couple minutes.
Ios is way smoother. This app is lagging on my galaxy s ocd to 1.4 ghz and running cm7. Still lags .
Sure ios has its hiccups but it is way smooth. And yes my phone is really smooth in some apps (using 3d)
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Alanrocks15 said:
If high end phones barely lag on android imagine how bad an iphone 2g would do!
Any ways you are sorta wrong you sound like youve never used ios for more than a couple minutes.
Ios is way smoother. This app is lagging on my galaxy s ocd to 1.4 ghz and running cm7. Still lags .
Sure ios has its hiccups but it is way smooth. And yes my phone is really smooth in some apps (using 3d)
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I don't get any lag? Phone/ROM in sig, running at 1ghz.
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That is not what he is talking about though. He is talking about all the Iphone users saying "My phone doesn't ever lag". That is why he posted a video of an Iphone with lag issues.
Ooops sorry miunderstood.
I hate those people.
My friends are always saying how their ipod touches are so better then my phone.
They always compare smoothness ugh!
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I don't get any lag? Phone/ROM in sig, running at 1ghz.
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Your on crack. Just sayin...
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I get the same thing from my little brother. He a pain in the butt.
Come on man! Don't come in here and spam the thread. Find another place and go post there!
Personally out the box the iPhone is a better OVERALL device than ANY android device minus the absence of FLASH! I've been loyal to android since the g1 and after rooting my g1 I felt it compared to the current iPhone at that time with that said you would think HTC SAMSUN MOTO would deliver better builds out the box
Who'da thunk it? (Wink)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/iphone-4s-preliminary-benchmarks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
i think once Android introduces hardware acceleration (ICS??) that from a benchmarking standpoint it should improve. From what i understand of Android and iOS, iOS i think has potential to do better in benchmarking due to being pretty much on the metal where as android is "virtual" to account for all the different hardware sets. Some one smarter feel free to straighten me out!! That said, i don't think you have any one said that the ET4G feels slow!
Depends on iPhone graphics chip too... Not sure how good it is...
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it's very difficult to compare devices that run different platforms because there can be a lot of variables involved.
android still has a long way to go in terms of fluidity and refinement.
plus, this is what happens when software is designed for only ONE device made by ONE manufacturer as opposed to open-source and multiple devices manufacturers.
still, I don't dislike Apple by any means but nothing could make me get an iPhone 4s....
The iPhone is basically an app drawer.
Nexus Prime comes out soon. That will inevitably put the 4S to shame. As for hardware, I think the 4S is the greatest anticlimax of the year. They've changed a small number of things on the iPhone 4 and put a £400+ price tag on it.
Not to discredit Apple. It's a phenomenal phone but it's only just been released and will very quickly be sunk (again) by Android devices.
Just my two cents of course...
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it's very difficult to compare devices that run different platforms because there can be a lot of variables involved.
android still has a long way to go in terms of fluidity and refinement.
plus, this is what happens when software is designed for only ONE device made by ONE manufacturer as opposed to open-source and multiple devices manufacturers.
still, I don't dislike Apple by any means but nothing could make me get an iPhone 4s....
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Agreed!
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Yes I'm very impressive
Edit not impressed
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I could care less. I don't even run those on my phone as they don't mean anything to me.
rockky said:
Who'da thunk it? (Wink)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/iphone-4s-preliminary-benchmarks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
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Sorry, but did you mistakenly post this trash here in the Epic 4G Touch section? Cause I don't seen anything about your post that relates to this phone.
Damn you guys make me pissy, why can't you keep your crapple stuff where it belongs?
On a side note, it is funny how the image of his thumbs take up 50% of the screen.
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but is that not because of the hardware acceleration (From gpu.. If i make any sense here) because the Galaxy Tab has very high scores, Higher than the reast and close to the iphone in all of them, Honeycomb, unlike gingerbread has Hardware acceleration, so hopefully for ICS those scores will boost
I'm not surprised since iOS is optimized to the max, while Android is still crappy on most hardware. But i guess ICS will fix this.
Btw, the 4S' GPU is the same that will sit in the Nexus Prime (according to rumours).
But whether we like it or not, the 4S is a powerful gadget, and that's great for the iPhone users.
rockky said:
Who'da thunk it? (Wink)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
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I thunk it...when I saw the benchmarks I posted about in a different thread.
Apple never does anything frivolously. They may seem to be frivolous at times, but they always have valid reasons for what they do. It's why they prosper. And why they will continue to prosper.
I get a 3600 score on mt htc desire hd with ccm7 rom, overclocked....iphone couldn't even half that....BUT, i returned to a custom sense rom and clocked processor back down to standard speed and i noticed absolutely ZERO difference, it was still 100% as smooth and zero lag etc....BUT, my benchmark was only 1841...a lot less on Quadrant.
Quadrant scores, IMHO (or other benchmark tools) mean F**K ALL!!
my phone is 100% smooth
ZERO lag whatsoever
very fast
reliable
so i really couldn't care if it said (on quadrant benchmark) 100 or 5,000,000!
Matt
I've gotten over 5800 on quadrant on my Nexus S, Simms22 has even broken 6000 (same device) quadrants are debatable. iOS will again be playing catch up to Android in the very near future.
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People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
You are right and wrong.
Sgs is not slow.
Based on your descrioption it appears that your problem only apears after you have installed lot of apps. I would bet this is because a lot of these apps have services running and auto load at startup.
The android platform's implementation of true multitasking does inherently introduce issues like lags when when critical resources like memory is depleted. Sgs only has 512mb ram. So when lots of services run in the background, it slows down and although it tries to free up ram, it can overwhelmed when all those apps tries to restart itself.
Task killers / autostarts app / kernel and tunings can only do so much based on my experience.
Best option is to be more selective with app download and what you really want to keep on the phone.
IPhone doesn't have true multitasking thus don't havr the same issue and appears faster. Of course the UI is GPU accelerated which helps.
So really depends how much you yourself multitask at then of the day and whether you need it. Many don't and thus find iPhone ideal.
Ice cream sandwich will bring gpu acceleration mainstream to android.
Still loving my sgs. I have an ipad2 which I also love but squirm when I wanted it to multitask.
My 2 cents sharing
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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LOL same here
Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
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Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
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This man knows his stuff.
Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Whoa.
I'm pretty sure Apple underclocks more than overclocks the majority of their devices. I read that the iPhone 4S, for example, was underclocked to 800MHz (from 1000MHz, I'm assuming).
I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't know if Wikipedia is a good enough source for you, but it says so right under the Wikipedia article for Underclocking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underclocking
"Most smartphones and PDAs, such as the Motorola Droid, Palm Pre, and Apple iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s, use the "underclocking" of a more powerful processor, rather than the full clocking of a less powerful processor, to maximize battery life. The designers for such mobile devices often discover that a slower processor gives worse battery life than a more powerful processor at a lower clock rate. They select a processor on the basis of the performance per watt of the processor."
I'm sure you could find more credible sources if you googled it.
smiles.smiley said:
People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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I keep hearing this and i want to try it for myself which froyo rom would you recommend?
I heard that a lot too. But I have friends running on 2.2.1 asked me to help them to get their device to 2.3.3/2.3.4. The reason they gave me was that their phones are much laggier than mine.
I'm wonder what would is the reason behind the fluidity of the iPhone 4 ?
I got the captivate and most of friends got the iPhone 4 in, relatively, the same time.
The performance of their phones is superior to mine even though both phones have the mostly the same specifications !
BTW, I'm using CM7.
simply put, iphone is one OS meant specifically for one phone, developed by professionals..
Android is an OS that is spread over hundreds of different models.. Its hard to make everything perfect when the devices are constantly different (especially when different models are running different versions of Android). It's also open source and has the potential to be better than iOS but needs more time to develop IMO. I think the base SDK is pretty solid but then the carriers do thier own "tweaks" etc and we lose some of the functionality.
The reason I prefer Android over iOS is the ability to customize it. Your friends wont be flashing custom software on thier iPhones which to me is half the fun of having a "smart" phone.
Also iOS doesn't offer real multitasking. Its how they both handle memory and cpu usage. I'm not a fan of Apple mobile's BUT I have to admit that for single tasking and simplicity (ish) iOS is better.
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Also iOS doesn't offer real multitasking. Its how they both handle memory and cpu usage. I'm not a fan of Apple mobile's BUT I have to admit that for single tasking and simplicity (ish) iOS is better.
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Android is fundamentally going to be slower than iOS just because of the way it's structured. And yeah, a lot of it has to do with the multitasking aspect. Android is much more like a PC than iOS is
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there is a thread about this from a couple days ago on the xda (news) portal about the comparison of android/ios multi-tasking, and info about it in a recent XDAtv episode.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
http://www.youtube.com/xdadevelopers#p/u/3/FFuWQyH3trg
you should check both daily for info on everything xda.
Thanks everyone for sharing these info
What about hardware acceleration. As I understood, ICS support full HW acceleration. So does the iOS offer the same feature ?
If so, does would we witness a change in the performance of ICS ?
do your own research.
use google. its new but it works pretty good.....
AhmadAlmousa said:
Thanks everyone for sharing these info
What about hardware acceleration. As I understood, ICS support full HW acceleration. So does the iOS offer the same feature ?
If so, does would we witness a change in the performance of ICS ?
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https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/XAZ4CeVP6DC
Superior GPU, OpenGL, Hardware acceleration, software optimization for one architecture...it's really more than one, single thing. Android guys like to point at it not having "true" multitasking, but that's just not true. iOS can run apps in the background and it is just as easy to switch apps in iOS as it us Android.
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Superior GPU, OpenGL, Hardware acceleration, software optimization for one architecture...it's really more than one, single thing. Android guys like to point at it not having "true" multitasking, but that's just not true. iOS can run apps in the background and it is just as easy to switch apps in iOS as it us Android.
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The multitasking that you speak off is false. It closes apps as it wishes and sometime blocks access to other apps. I'm not knocking it it works great for most ppl. I've used Iphone 4 for 6 months and It annoyed the hell out of me. The Gpu is exactly the same. Both ru PowerVR SGX 5 series (535 for Iphone, 540 for us). On paper ours is a tad better since it can process 20M triangles/s vs Iphones 14M/s. Hardware accel we do not have (for now).
I started to describe the 4s, which does have the best GPU in a mobile device. My bad. On paper the 540 is better, but the hardware accel of the 4 makes the 535 perform better. iOS doesn't randomly shut down apps, it prioritizes. The performance is still noticeably better, and you still have multitasking in much the same way you do on Android. As for the 4s, we will need quad-core processors and much better GPUs to see that kind of performance.
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After installing ICS on my Samsung Captivate, it's about 95% as smooth as an iPhone (which I sold to get this phone). I'm really impressed! The hardware acceleration makes a big difference.
It has made a difference on my NS, too, but there are still things I hope they improve.
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It has made a difference on my NS, too, but there are still things I hope they improve.
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Having gone to a Verizon store and used the Galaxy Nexus, I can report that it's pretty much right on par with the iPhone as far as fluidity and responsiveness. The browser in particular is light years ahead of the one in Gingerbread or Froyo.
I think the apples-to-apples comparison on our devices with GB vs ICS shows that the software is mostly responsible for the enhanced responsiveness. Go Google!
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After installing ICS on my Samsung Captivate, it's about 95% as smooth as an iPhone (which I sold to get this phone). I'm really impressed! The hardware acceleration makes a big difference.
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After installing ICS on my Captivate, I have been thoroughly impressed with its responsiveness. Considering it is a port and the Devs have not had the source to work with, I was ecstatic to see this. Once they integrate the recently released source, I truly believe that even my "ancient" Captivate will rival the new iPhone.
They have had source for a while now...
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They have had source for a while now...
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+1. The Team Hacksung build already has the source integrated.
I just downloaded GTA 3 for Android and it is lagging like hell.. Very annoying it is so smooth on Xperia Play
XER0123 said:
I just downloaded GTA 3 for Android and it is lagging like hell.. Very annoying it is so smooth on Xperia Play
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Hmmm the Xperia is identical to GS+ apart from a slower clocked CPU, it just goes to show the software that samsung have stuck on this phone is dog**** and slow.
You could try the better GPU drivers for our phone have a look here.
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BackDaws said:
Hmmm the Xperia is identical to GS+ apart from a slower clocked CPU, it just goes to show the software that samsung have stuck on this phone is dog**** and slow.
You could try the better GPU drivers for our phone have a look here.
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Thank you i already installed them last week but GTA 3 is still very lagging :/
XER0123 said:
Thank you i already installed them last week but GTA 3 is still very lagging :/
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we are stuck with it until Samsung start supporting our device more, the cheaper Galaxy W is getting all the support it needs i knew i should of bought that one instead.
1st: next time post such stuff in the Q&A thread
2nd: the first thing i noticed, other than that the whole stock software is crappy, is that RAM performance is not well customized, try using the supercharger script and set the minfrees for 512mb RAM, i think ur problem lies there.. i use the stock rom with stock kernel, i free ram with the stock task manager before launching it and GTA3 runs just fine
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1st: next time post such stuff in the Q&A thread
2nd: the first thing i noticed, other than that the whole stock software is crappy, is that RAM performance is not well customized, try using the supercharger script and set the minfrees for 512mb RAM, i think ur problem lies there.. i use the stock rom with stock kernel, i free ram with the stock task manager before launching it and GTA3 runs just fine
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Oh Man :/ I really miss my iPhone 3GS.. It was really smooth without any scripts, roms, mods...
My SGS+ is running 1.8 ghz , but still laggy, low fps on games compared to iphone 3gs..
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Oh Man :/ I really miss my iPhone 3GS.. It was really smooth without any scripts, roms, mods...
My SGS+ is running 1.8 ghz , but still laggy, low fps on games compared to iphone 3gs..
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Please don't talk about any apple product here xd
XER0123 said:
Oh Man :/ I really miss my iPhone 3GS.. It was really smooth without any scripts, roms, mods...
My SGS+ is running 1.8 ghz , but still laggy, low fps on games compared to iphone 3gs..
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the hardware on the S+ is really great for a single core phone, but the software sucks, if we had a lil more developing in our section we would've had the real deal , even though there are a few custom roms out there. my friend who owns an iphone 4 always repeats the fact that he doesn't need to do anything additional to his phone and that "it just works", and we have to accept that fact, even though, with the right software we can get a better product than the iphone 4
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Please don't talk about any apple product here xd
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if Apple makes a better product then we gotta admit it and give them the credits for that. there is no need for any Android vs iphone mood. Competition is healthy, it can only make our phones better.
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if Apple makes a better product then we gotta admit it and give them the credits for that. there is no need for any Android vs iphone mood. Competition is healthy, it can only make our phones better.
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1. This discussion belongs in the general discussion thread not in the development section.
2. Unless you intend starting a flame war I would suggest that singing the praises of a certain fruit associated manufacturer in an Android forum is not a great plan.
3. If you want to compare phones then make sure they are in the same price class. So if your going to match Android against the fruit munger phone then you need to compare with the galaxy nexus or galaxy s ii.
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NO
Im playing the game right now and it runs smooth, you cant even see framedrops.
this game was made for the 9001, i only heard of people having problems with the normal galaxy. maybe you need to get your phone fixed or clear up some ram, because what you're saying is simply not true.
+1 GTA 3 lag on my device
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AFAIK GTA3 is supposed to run on devices with a dual-core processor (iPhone 4S, SGS2, Sensation etc).
I guess it's not a marketing trick (like it was in case of most "tegra only" games) and the game really needs 2 cores for runing fine and smooth.
Anyway, i dont think we lost something big
Its working perfectly on my Sensation, brilliant gameplay and smooth frame rates...
Meh I'm gonna wait for some Vice City before putting GTA on any if my phones. After Vice City was released, I can't even play GTA III anymore...
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GTA 3 on my I9000 runs perfectly, I don't know what you lot are complaining about. You must be on a bad Rom
I'm using sgs+ and GTA 3 is running smoothly no lag whatsoever...
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GTA 3 on my I9000 runs perfectly, I don't know what you lot are complaining about. You must be on a bad Rom
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and what perfect rom do you have my friend?
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and what perfect rom do you have my friend?
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Im running Cm7 with Chainfire3d installed. It is on Glitch's kernel at 1.2 GHz. it runs well. Im already up to the 2nd island!