Camera, dark pictures and videos - LG Optimus 4X HD

I own LG 2X and one thing i hated really the most is the camera takes really dark pictures in semi lit room. It is not just because room is dark as I compared the pictures taken with SGS2 and Xperia Neo. Can someone please confirm if the similar problem exists with LG 4X? I want to get this phone but this is the only thing stopping me. Appreciate if you can post pics taken in semi lit room. Thanks.
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ksekhar said:
I own LG 2X and one thing i hated really the most is the camera takes really dark pictures in semi lit room. It is not just because room is dark as I compared the pictures taken with SGS2 and Xperia Neo. Can someone please confirm if the similar problem exists with LG 4X? I want to get this phone but this is the only thing stopping me. Appreciate if you can post pics taken in semi lit room. Thanks.
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I feel like this the camera too dark

puh diamond said:
I feel like this the camera too dark
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Thanks Diamond. LG 4x has BSI sensor and thought it would take good pictures in the low light conditions. I guess i am wrong.
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[Q] HDR off/on? difference?

Playing with the camera and can't really find any difference in quality. The hdr picture size is smaller but that's all the difference if you ask me.. What do you think, guys? Not impressed with that camera. Love this phone anyway))
mih3y said:
Playing with the camera and can't really find any difference in quality. The hdr picture size is smaller but that's all the difference if you ask me.. What do you think, guys? Not impressed with that camera. Love this phone anyway))
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I have done some sample pictures today, uploaded to another thread here
HDR mode let the camera to take few pics at different exposures, then combining then in one pic that is balanced. Not so bright not so dark.
If u want to test it your self, go outside in a sunny day and while standing in a shade take few pics fouced at bright things or things under a shade.
HDR is very handy if u have a dark spots and a very bright source in a single scene.
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Compare..
With and without HDR :

poor camera quallity

hello people!
when i try to take picture in low light condition,my picture got very bad quallity
even before im taking the picture i see lots of but lots of grain in the screen (only low condition)
so my picture looks like hell,and when i checked youtube i saw many great pics in night ,so my phone is not good maybe?
or you have it to?
cause in regular condition it looks great!!
im on eXistenZ rom with doom kernel.
I think it's down to how Sony compress the photos after they are taken I might be wrong:silly:
It's something that hopefully will be fixed it upcoming firmware updates as let's be honest the camera hardware wise should be amazing
bubu23 said:
hello people!
when i try to take picture in low light condition,my picture got very bad quallity
even before im taking the picture i see lots of but lots of grain in the screen (only low condition)
so my picture looks like hell,and when i checked youtube i saw many great pics in night ,so my phone is not good maybe?
or you have it to?
cause in regular condition it looks great!!
im on eXistenZ rom with doom kernel.
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I'd say take a look at the numerous topics about pictures made from this device, then you'll know more.
Coming from a Nexus 4 I find the camera quality to be fantastic. I haven't taken a single bad photo yet, in all lighting conditions, mostly using iauto
See this
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z-A-new-contender-in-the-smartphone-arena
XZ camera pic can be very noisy at dark, shades and low light places
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Is my camera broken, or I need to play with settings?

Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
are you on 1.29?
the photo`s are overexposed, the one sets the exposure on what it is focusing on, so i would have though it focused on the dark water and raised the exposure, that`s is why the white birds are overexposed, if you focused on a white bird, the one would reduce the exposure, and give more detail on the birds.
You know you can touch the screen to focus, but there is a setting in the menu to take a photo automatically when you click on an area of the screen.
I wish there was an total area exposure mode instead of the focus spot one.
John.
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
valdigre said:
Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
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It's called metering. When you tap on the water to focus (dark), the camera turns the light up so that the water is clearly visible and perfectly exposed. But since you're making dark brighter, the brights will naturally be even brighter. You want the feathers to show detail, you tap on them and it adjusts the light so that they are darker and you can see detail at the expense of even darker water.
Your best bet in these kind of high contrast situations is to use HDR mode. It takes 1 under-exposed image (dark) and 1 slightly over-exposed image (bright) and merges the 2 together. Dark areas will be brighter and bright areas will be darker, giving the image a little fake look, but evenly exposed throughout.
On dSLRs, HDR actually takes THREE images to combine (sometimes even 5). This gives the processor more choices to pick and choose the best parts of each image to merge to a final picture.
SLver said:
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
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Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
yeah do some metering and try different types of shots,
valdigre said:
Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
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Just some samples to explain my previous post. First pic is me focusing on the wall, which is dark. The wall is now not but my lightsource is completely blown out.
As one pic shows me focusing on the light. Since it's bright, the camera has to darken the whole scene so I can actually see the object I focused on, turning the rest of the scene dark.
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Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
It's just the camera. I tested it against an s4 and an Xperia z. Indoor shots were way better on the one than either of them but both beat out the one hands down when it came to outdoor shots. I have tried everything and can't get a really good outdoor shot. I would like to see the result of someone porting the Xperia z camera app to our device but I don't know if it is possible.
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valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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Those first picture is terrible...
Could you post more pictures because that kind of terrible picture i have never had with the htc one...
So we can see if its realy broken
valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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Hey guys,
The problem is, that some extra white/bright objects are too small for the camera to catch focus for and adjust the settings.
I played with settings a bit over the weekend and the camera focuses OK on brighter objects, as long as they are big enough...
A bit of a shame, nor my Lumia 920, nor even galaxy S2 has problems like this... I guess, I can live with it, though

[Q] Front camera problem

i just bought my Z1 around 4 days ago, and i realized that the front camera really bad inside the room / house compare to S4, too much grainy thing...
please somebody help me!! im really noob in photograph, gadget, app, etc --"
and is it normal or not ?
louistot said:
i just bought my Z1 around 4 days ago, and i realized that the front camera really bad inside the room / house compare to S4, too much grainy thing...
please somebody help me!! im really noob in photograph, gadget, app, etc --"
and is it normal or not ?
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the front camera is only 2 megapixels and in low light conditions the picture is grainy, thats normal, my htc one was exactly the same.
louistot said:
i just bought my Z1 around 4 days ago, and i realized that the front camera really bad inside the room / house compare to S4, too much grainy thing...
please somebody help me!! im really noob in photograph, gadget, app, etc --"
and is it normal or not ?
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I've noticed that when you're viewing it to take it, it's really really grainy. But if you take the picture the actual photo looks much better. Seems like a software glitch. I've seen it happen in dark conditions on the main camera once.
Have you noticed that the photo itself turns out better than the view finder?
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HDR mode, very better.:laugh:
sofir786 said:
the front camera is only 2 megapixels and in low light conditions the picture is grainy, thats normal, my htc one was exactly the same.
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yeah, but its like heaven and hell compare to my little sister S4 --"
301stSpartan said:
I've noticed that when you're viewing it to take it, it's really really grainy. But if you take the picture the actual photo looks much better. Seems like a software glitch. I've seen it happen in dark conditions on the main camera once.
Have you noticed that the photo itself turns out better than the view finder?
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yea i know, but how about the video call ? speechless -___-

Android 4.4.2 Camera test

Hi all I just received the OTA for Android 4.4.2 so have put together a before and after comparing 4.4 to 4.4.2 for the Nexus 5 camera. Includes some full crop images and video capture as well as the all important autofocus test.
Very pleased with the results looks like Google have made big improvements all round to the camera.
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Thx for the vid man!
Ben36 said:
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Ben36 said:
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Maybe for you.. camcorder exposure is fine for me.
Stock 4.4.2 odexed
BoneXDA said:
Thx for the vid man!
Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
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because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
Ben36 said:
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
Sampson0420 said:
because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
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No it's not. A rhetorical question is still a form of question, "you've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light" however is not, so the use of question mark is inappropriate? (See what I did there? <-- rhetorical question.)
xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
androidizen said:
Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
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I went 4.4->4.4.1->4.4.2
When I recorded that video, I used 4.4.1.
I tested later and had the same behavior in 4.4.2.
androidizen said:
I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
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I'm starting to think that we're all seeing the same thing and just coming up with different interpretations due to subjective differences. There's no other reason that everyone would be having such wildly different results using the same software and hardware.
All I know is that video recording on my phone in low light is MUCH, MUCH darker than it was on either 4.4 or 4.4.1. I wish I had taken some screenies before updating to show you.
xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
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Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
for anyone wondering about the dimmer picture in the video ,
i made a little example here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3W...it?usp=sharing
( dont have to download to view)
im not complaining , just showing what people are saying
haydonxda said:
Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
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Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFhXib0pZk
xybur said:
Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
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Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
haydonxda said:
Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
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What's funny is that I had spotlighting right above my head (direct, LED bright lighting) IN the bar at the table I was sitting at, which would make it look like stage lighting.
But it looks as if it's horrendously dark in there and all of the ambient LED's look like christmas lights thanks to the recording and the contrast of light sources. Trust me when I say it was a lot brighter in the bar than the video would lead you to believe.
My 4.4.2 pictures.
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xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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That looks exactly like I would expect a video from a dimly lit bar to look.
I didn't think to take any photos at the time, but the difference between the photo viewfinder mode and the camcorder mode was incredibly noticeable, very similar to the screen caps of the viewfinders posted in the 4.4.2 first thoughts thread.
edit: Here is the thread if you somehow missed it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562886

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