Nexus 7 from handtec.co.uk - Nexus 7 General

I just wanted to post about handtec trying to rip off people looking to buy a nexus 7 from them.
I know most people in the UK would just buy from else where but handtec are one of the few sellers who ship internationally.
I have just moved to hong kong and previously bought a HTC one x from them without VAT which was quite a good deal, and I thought I would try get the nexus 7 from them as well as their service previously was pretty good.
However they list the price of the 16gb version at £238.80 (£199 + VAT) I then talked to them via online chat to verify if this was just a typo as it should be £199 including VAT and hence about £165 without vat. I was told by their rep that this was the best price available, I told them no, the RRP is £199 including VAT and that is what all the other retailers are selling them for, the rep replied that yes that is correct, so I asked them why they are selling for more than the RRP to which I just got ignored, so i asked if they are going to sell at this higher price and again got no response, I waited another 10 mins on the chat window and then when i had no reply i closed it.
this happened a week ago and I see they still have not updated the price. I think that this is their way to get some more money from international buyers who can't nexus 7 elsewhere as its not released and I'm pretty disappointed that they would try to do this and not sell at the RRP.

Supply and demand...
Retailers have the right to sell products at whatever price they choose.
Consumers have the right to choose who they buy from.
If you don't like the price, buy from someone else. They might not have the best price/deal, but it is a bit of a stretch to call them a ripoff.
A ripoff is more like when they give you something other than what they said they were going to give you.
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Have you tried their price match?

Clove sells it for even worse price - £220 for 16GB excluding VAT.

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HD7 on ebay

Don't want to tempt anyone here but I've just noticed that unlocked HD7s are selling on ebay for between £400 and £550 a pop.
Crazy. Why would you pay that? Have these people never heard of using a shop? Or at least checking the going rate online.
digime said:
Don't want to tempt anyone here but I've just noticed that unlocked HD7s are selling on ebay for between £400 and £550 a pop.
Crazy. Why would you pay that? Have these people never heard of using a shop? Or at least checking the going rate online.
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I saw this its so crazy if i had the upfront cash i would so get in on that.
It's that price on eBay because:
1. It's only release in europe at the moment
2. US people can't be bothered to wait and usually order from overseas
3. It's unlocked
Main 3 factors which bumps up the prices.
That does explain some of the sales but plenty of sellers say they won't ship outside of the UK.
I checked some of the inflated completions and a lot of them seem to be bought by bidders with zero feedback. Something funny going on there.
Yea the zero feedbacks do sound a bit dodgy...
But with the ones that ain't shipping out of UK, it's unlocked, so people will pay anything just to put their Vodafone/Orange/Tmobile sim in it.
What i don't get is that you can do it yourself if you just buy it from O2. Learning how to unlock it will take like 15minutes for a newbie.
Indeed.
For the zero bid ebay buys I wonder if it's a way of making a product look more expensive than it really is. People probably decide on what's a bargain partly based on how much stuff tends to sell for.
So, if you flood the place with extortionately priced handsets and create ebay IDs to buy them people will presume that's the going rate and be willing to shell out more.
If an item sells then great. You go out to O2, buy one, unlock it and put in post to buyer. If it looks like it won't sell you use a fake ID to make it look like it sold and later get your advertising money back due to 'buyer' not sending payment.
Devious if true.

Anyone bought G-note from ebay?

I have yet to see someone claim to have bought e-note from ebay? I see prices as low as $670 dollars (US) including shipping yet no one has reported to have bought one from them. what is the risk involved that people are still paying $740 from other places and no one seems to be taking advantage of new g-notes from ebay at cheaper prices?
I think its fear + ignorance which stops more people getting them from ebay. These things are made pretty close to Hong Kong, so its not suprising how cheap they are buying them from there through ebay. ebay used to be fairly shady too, and I think a lot of people still hold the fear of splashing $700 into a site which they may feel unsure about. However, as many of us know these days, ebay + paypal combined is an insanely safe shopping source. Not only is your sale fully ensured, but the amount of turnover most of these stores do, and the ability to access other shopper's comments does make it a really valuable source.
I'll be getting my note from ebay sometime next week (when the pay comes through), but have previously bought my SGS 1, and asus transformer from there, with NO problems, extremely quick shipping, and hundreds of dollars saved. I always recomend it
thanks for the vote of confidence. I am also thinking about getting my g-note next week through ebay.
Just read through the sellers past feedback. You should quickly see if the seller is reliable. Also read carefully through the description to see if it is new/used/damaged or if the title is wrong and they they are selling a 600$ notebook with a photo of a galaxy on it rather than a phone.
I got mine from eBay.
I bought mine from Ebay I paid 720 for it including shipping that was free. That's 2 Weeks ago prices were much higher.
It was a reputable seller and didn't have any issue the phone is running great
I went through 3 SGN's so far.. One from Amazon.de, One from Ebay.de and one from my Country which was the most expensive one but was worth the local warranty reassurance since I'm keeping this one. Received it today.
The second one from Ebay was a German model, no problems, sold it like I did with the first one from Amazon after I played around abit with it.
Anyway ALWAYS read the FEEDBACK! Even if it's a TOP Rated it means NOTHING! It might be a hacked account or a bad TopRated. Better safe than sorry.
Example: Someone is selling some SGN's in a very attractive price. Check the feedback if another person bought and received a Note from the Seller already. If the listing just came up then check it's feedback for some expensive stuff and not 2-3euros worth of items.
If the Seller has low feedback(<30-50) but it's 100% positive and every buyer is happy with him, then sent him a message first and see. He might be just a regular guy selling a Note.
Yes Ebay and Paypal did help me a couple times and they were very helpful, but Scammers will always be around.
Got mine on ebay for $760 about 3 weeks ago when they first came out. It arrived in a few days without any problem. It turn out to be a Polish model with a with a Polish provider branding.
Just rooted & loaded a custom ROM & now all OK.
I love this phone. Absolutely awesome screen.
Got mine from a Hong Kong ebayer with no problem.
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[Q] Too good to be true?

This simply must be a scam of some sort, right? Who could be selling touchpads on Ebay for $40 with free shipping?
Ebay item 280795551667
Sorry, too newbie to be allowed to post a link...
Yeah and for a 32GB model as well.
/itm/New-TouchPad-32GB-Wi-Fi-9-7in-Glossy-Black-/280795551667?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&vxp=mtr&hash=item4160b817b3
We'll see, I just bought 2. Covered under the Buyer protection and I can afford to lose $80 if it's a scam. I've bought from this buyer a few times and never had a problem. Thanks for the lead maybe?!?
I hope it is legit...you've actually bought from this character before, lloydcabraham? Electronics?
I ordered one, I've been scammed before on eBay, but since it has buyer protection if its a scam we will get full refund. Since about 130 people have bought so far we won't have too much trouble reporting the scam, if it comes to that. Hopefully it's not a scam.
Looks like 499 of them were sold over the course of a day or so...let's see if anyone actually gets one delivered...fingers crossed
They are coming from China I will be very surprised if you got the touchpad rather then some KIRF from china.
I would be surprised to even get a KIRF. I figured it was a "take the money and run" kind of things. Still, even if it is a KIRF, Ebay and Paypal would seem to offer some protection to the buyer...I hope...
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Since the item description states that the brand is HP, then we would be protected by eBay and Paypal. But we would probably have to pay return shipping.
Milo_Hutz said:
Still, even if it is a KIRF, Ebay and Paypal would seem to offer some protection to the buyer...I hope...
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What if the buyer receives an empty box? How is paypal/ebay going to protect you from that? The seller obviously shipped something, they can say that the buyer is lying and that the product was in the box.
peachpuff said:
What if the buyer receives an empty box? How is paypal/ebay going to protect you from that? The seller obviously shipped something, they can say that the buyer is lying and that the product was in the box.
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if that happens there will be 499 ppl stating the same. i just received shipping details from ebay. it cost me 35 dollars since i had 10% coupon, hopefully its something worth that
It a scam nuthouse probably will get your money back eventually.
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peachpuff said:
What if the buyer receives an empty box? How is paypal/ebay going to protect you from that? The seller obviously shipped something, they can say that the buyer is lying and that the product was in the box.
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Not 500 of them. Plus you video tapenit and throw that theory out the window. Not to mention the shipping weight would be off. I would buy one and video tape the opening of the box.
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I hope Leo is right...it does make sense that any seller could scam a buyer or two by sending the old "empty box"- but 499 empty boxes is difficult for Ebay and Paypal to ignore...
Or, perhaps, HP Touchpads will arrive...another Festivus miracle!
Scam
I'm afraid you all got scammed here, but probably Paypal will return your money. It's not that this seller is a fraud, but probably his account has been hacked. Maybe you all are very lucky, but normally nothing branded comes cheaper from China.
I live in China and recently bought my TP on the Chinese Ebay clone Taobao.com, I payed 250 USD for the 16G version..
Funny thing is it was originally send from Shanghai (I can see that on the package, HP Export zone Shanghai, not sure where it was produced in China) to a buyer in Memphis USA, which bought it for 99 USD I guess. From Memphis it was probably sold through Ebay to some guy in Shanghai, possibly for 200 USD or less. This guy sold it to me on Taobao for 250 USD, which is still a very decent price if I compare to other tablets on the market. What a world..
hi
yesterday I received tracking number anyone else?
maguirre said:
hi
yesterday I received tracking number anyone else?
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i received a tracking number the first day, but it hasnt been updated. Also the seller account has been closed. I will wait a couple of day to see if theres any activity on the tracking, then i will put up a claim with paypal.
Solved
So, Ebay gave me my money back asap; but today I received a little package that contained a chinese trinket (rather than 3 tablet computers). Three cheers to Ebay for getting it right immediately...
Milo_Hutz said:
So, Ebay gave me my money back asap; but today I received a little package that contained a chinese trinket (rather than 3 tablet computers). Three cheers to Ebay for getting it right immediately...
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Let me get this straight...free suspense AND a free trinket!?
ooo what kind of trinkets?

BestBuy selling Sprint version for $799 off contract

This is absurd, please tell me this is a mistake...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nexus-5...d=2820006&st=nexus 5&cp=1&lp=1&contract_desc=
Price has been changed, yay
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This is absurd, please tell me this is a mistake...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nexus-5...d=2820006&st=nexus 5&cp=1&lp=1&contract_desc=
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Interesting cause sprint is selling it on pre-order with only $100 markup.
Lol wow...
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It's pretty straight forward.
Best buy makes money by selling contracts not phone. So they have no intention to sell this off contract and put some crazy number. They could as well put 1 million dollar.
Anyway not sure who still buys stuff from useless companies like best buy.
*** worst buy ***
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Best Buy price matches..
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fire & ice said:
Best Buy price matches..
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Do they price match the play store?
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I believe the fine print says they only match contract prices, not non-contract...
Best Buy also sets insane prices on their inventory that hasn't been released yet. So it is not certain this is the final price.
Best Buy doesnt price match cell phones...I bought a droid maxx for my wife for 499 at verizon store, i went to best buy first to see if they price match and the manager there said cell phones dont qualify for price match
Best Buy has updated the price to $449 to match Sprint's price. As I suspected, it was just a placeholder.
Sprint doesn't have a cheaper plan if you bring your own device do they?
Seems dumb. If you want sprint, why not sign a 2 year and get the phone for $50....
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Sprint doesn't have a cheaper plan if you bring your own device do they?
Seems dumb. If you want sprint, why not sign a 2 year and get the phone for $50....
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I think it's only $50 if you switch from another carrier. It's $150 for upgrades.
Negri has the D820 for $459.50 and $524.50 for 16GB/32GB. International D821 for $70 more. Or, they will on the 8th if they don't give the same runaround as the Note 3 for T-Mobile.
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Since this is a BB thread and my gift card pretty much means I have to buy it there, figured I'd share the fine print of the price match deal:
At the time of purchase, we will match the current pre-tax price for new, identical, immediately available products from a local retail competitor's store and these designated major online retailers: Amazon.com, Apple.com, Bhphotovideo.com, Crutchfield.com, Dell.com, Frys.com, hhgregg.com, HP.com, HomeDepot.com, Lowes.com, Newegg.com, OfficeDepot.com, OfficeMax.com, Rakuten.com Shopping, Sears.com, Staples.com, Target.com, TigerDirect.com and Walmart.com. We will match prices between our stores and BestBuy.com®. We will also match prices post purchase if we lower our price within 15 days of your purchase.
The Guarantee is limited to one price match per identical item, per guest and does not apply to: Contract mobile phones sold by any online retailer, the online prices of retailers not listed, the online prices of third party vendors (Marketplace vendors) on designated major online retailers websites, post purchase price match requests to competitor's prices, Best Buy for Business™, offers that include financing, gift card offers, bundling of items, free items, pricing errors, mail-in offers, coupon offers, competitor's service prices, items that are advertised as limited-quantity, out of stock, open-box, clearance, refurbished/used items, our and our competitor's Deal of the Day, daily deals, special hour sale event items and credit card offers, BestBuy.com Clearance & More and Marketplace items, and items for sale Thanksgiving Day through the Monday after Thanksgiving.
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So basically even if they WERE willing to match Google's $349 and build your contract around that price (which would come out to $50), Google.com doesn't fall into the group of websites they're willing to match in the first place. There ARE however two interesting wrinkles here: For starters, while they won't match ONLINE contract phone prices, print ads are fair game. Secondly, from BB's faq on price matching:
How do I request a price match from a Best Buy retail store?
When making a purchase, or during the return and exchange period after your purchase from a Best Buy retail store, please talk to a Customer Specialist or go to the Customer Service desk for help with your price match request
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The return window is 15 days, so if you see any print ad selling it for less during the two weeks after you buy it, you can just go back in to BestBuy with your receipt and they'll give you back the difference (excluding any black friday specials).

Price in EU (<€1200 now).

It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
You're insane.
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Really, care to explain why? Lowest retail price has dropped over 700 Euros in less than 2 months.
Samsung are well known for front-loading pricing, and quickly tapering it to distributors and wholesalers, but it's never been quite like this. The device is clearly intended to sell in volume, and not be the flagship for anything like as long as the Fold 1.
Re: development, plenty of 800-1200 Euro devices see lots of development.
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It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
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Some links as evidence of brand new / unused prices as per your post?
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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No phones at that link.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
StormCell said:
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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I know it's probably a foreign concept, but supply chains and retail channels are relatively competitive in Europe .. particularly Germany.
Probably seems unreal to you when informal price fixing in a hugely non-competitive market rules in the US ... and you just got a Verizon Fold 2 for $$$$$$$$$$, with no hope of waiting for discounts.
Why do you think anyone with a clue in the US buys from European retailers? Price including tax in Europe (which you don't pay) is usually much cheaper than price excluding tax at US retailers, save for Apple. That's what no competition does.
And now you're mad and refuse to believe anything.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
dezborders said:
Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
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Lol.
Are you really not able to use price comparison sites or enter search terms and use filters on Ebay?
Rhetorical question. Evidently not.
Flavio said:
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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I don't think any contract phones have been branded / locked for 5-6 years in DE ... and he appears to be implying these are secondhand contract phones. I'm not even sure heavily subsidised pay as you go phones are branded anymore.
Lowest retail price for sealed NIB Fold 2 in DE is 1149.99 today. It has been lower. Trend is still downwards quickly though.
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
ricksmad said:
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
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Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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santjust said:
Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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I bought this Fold 2 for one month ago too in Germany ebay kleinanzeigen 1350 Euro) . some people buy buissness phone cards with a fold 2 and they sell the fold 2 and use the phone card.
Now it is sometimes a little bit cheaper but ok .... I use it for over a month now and I love this phone ! So great stuff Samsung did here ...
You can buy these used for around $1400 US off of Ebay (which is around 1250 Euro, which is what I see it for on the German eBay site). Hoping for a slight bit more of a price drop from Black Friday, but I noticed that Samsung is still selling it for its original price, and they've dropped the price of trade ins by around $200.
I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I'm looking to buy it again, and I'm not seeing all these great deals. Samsung's site is $1999, unless you trade in a device. The deals on eBay are ok for a used device, but not great. Amazon has some refurbs for $300 off, which is ok, but again, it's a refurb, to which they only promise that you won't notice a problem "holding it at arm's length". I haven't seen any sign of a new unit coming down in price from $2k.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
dezborders said:
Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
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It's good advice, and I am worried about it. I see a number of devices for sale that say they're on a contract. Kind of terrifying that someone decides to switch providers and suddenly my phone is blacklisted.
Starting to hope for a Black Friday sale!

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