Just got meself a Nexus 7... But! - Nexus 7 General

I fear now that I'm gonna have to return it because of one major design flaw. That is, the use of the EXT filesystem.
When I try and copy a selection of folders full of photos to the Nexus 7 whether via USB MTP or Wireless, every single file has had it's timestamp changed to the exact time/date the copy operation occurred. This for me, is a complete nightmare.
I have loads of folders with photos that I need to keep in chronological order, if the timestamp is changed (without actually modification of the files) I am unable to sort them date descending (so the newest files appear first).
I have even tried copying a test selection to my Dropbox and using FolderSync to sync the photos back down to the device - however, this doesn't work either. As soon as the files are on the device the filesystem modifies the timestamp.
I could of course just leave the photos in the Cloud and view them that way, which I don't mind but I have yet to find a photo gallery app that is able to view photos via Dropbox and provide slideshow capability without downloading them to the device.
Everything works just fine on my SGSII (running ICS 4.0.4) when copying data as all timestamps are retained. I believe this to be down the use of the FAT32 filesystem as opposed to EXT and the fact that USB Mass Storage works and not crappy USB MTP as used on the Nexus 7.
If anyone has a successful workaround to retain timestamps of files I would appreciate it. I can't believe its so difficult to copy a few photos to the device.
I don't want to send it back as I love the Nexus 7 and Android in general but I think I'm gonna have to if I can't get it to work the way it should.
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Try importing your pix through an app called quickpix. Its a great album/gallery. Its a free app. Try a few test photos to see I it retains your time stamp. There's a good chance it does. I know what you mean though. Its not a nexus7 only thing. Alot of devices do that.

demandarin said:
Try importing your pix through an app called quickpix. Its a great album/gallery. Its a free app. Try a few test photos to see I it retains your time stamp. There's a good chance it does. I know what you mean though. Its not a nexus7 only thing. Alot of devices do that.
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I take it you mean QuickPic? I have that and use it on my SGSII but it doesn't work on the Nexus 7. Like I said, as soon as the files are copied to the NX7 the timestamp changes. If QuickPic supported Cloud storage then maybe that could be a workaround but it doesn't.

If you're only concerned with the timestamps for photos, then this app can change the timestamps to match the timestamps in each photo's EXIF info:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.metaworldsolutions.android.exif.timestamp&hl=en

Google+? All my pics are in chrono order.
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Possibly zip the files first then transfer?

It wouldn't be hard to make a little script to batch rename all your folders to include the date on your pc of before you copy them over.
Also, which time stamp is it changing? Modification?
As an aside, I think ext4 now supports another time stamp: creation. Or, I made up reading that!
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It's because of MTP and has nothing to do with the file system used.
Use FTPDroid to transfer your files over. Your timestamps will be preserved (depending on the settings of your FTP client).
MTP doesn't give access to the underlying filesystem, thus doesn't allow your copying program to set them accordingly. MSD gives you direct access, which is why you didn't have the issue on your SGS2.

German Court Ban on all Mot Fat phones
Microsoft has all Mot phones with Fat banned in Germany ... may be why Google using Ext

kraized said:
I fear now that I'm gonna have to return it because of one major design flaw. That is, the use of the EXT filesystem.
When I try and copy a selection of folders full of photos to the Nexus 7 whether via USB MTP or Wireless, every single file has had it's timestamp changed to the exact time/date the copy operation occurred. This for me, is a complete nightmare.
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I wish I could find some program to rename my pictures to the date/time stamp so I wouldn't have to worry about date and time stamp changes. LOL
All the DSN and IMG file names are pretty much meaningless.

ExploreMN said:
I wish I could find some program to rename my pictures to the date/time stamp so I wouldn't have to worry about date and time stamp changes. LOL
All the DSN and IMG file names are pretty much meaningless.
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Here you go

thebobp said:
Here you go
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If this works... I will love you so much!
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Use dropbox.
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MTP doesn't preserve timestamps, so don't either cloud services. Even FTP requires MFMT which is not present in any FTP server for android at this time.
[GUIDE] MTP and PTP (Media Transfer Protocol) vs UMC (Mass Storage Class)

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[Android 2.1+] Undelete - Recover Deleted Files - 2.0 Released - Now Free!

MOD EDIT: links removed
UNDELETE - RECOVER YOUR FILES ON THE GO
Undelete for Android is an application for root users that allows you to recover any type of deleted file from your SD card or internal storage. With support for over 1000 file types, Undelete can come in handy if you accidentally delete photos or want some old tunes to listen to. Undelete can also securely wipe and shred files so that they will be impossible for others to recover.
WARNING: DATA RECOVERY IS NOT GUARANTEED. Sometimes even recently deleted files can be corrupted beyond repair as the operating system writes new files to memory.
Features:
- Restore any file that has not been written over
- Securely wipe/shred files
- Thumbnail generation
- Works with images, video, music, archives and binaries
- Batch operations
- Preview media files
Currently, only FAT is supported. On Tegra devices, only the external SD is supported. EXT 4 will probably never be supported - use a desktop tool (if you can find one).
Some files that are discovered after a scan may fail to recover as data may be corrupted beyond repair, just like desktop based solutions.
INTERNET and READ DATA permissions are needed for the logging system. Logs are only sent manually with your permission through the "Write to us" dialog.
Market link:
Screens:
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So any issues with the Release Candidate?
Yeah thats great. And when youre traveling i suppose youll need it a computer and lots of cables...
Also, its bad form to advertise other tools in a paid software thread. Not a great start to your XDA membership.
ftgg99 said:
So any issues with the Release Candidate?
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no issues on my DInc2. for the few times i've had to use it, it worked as intended. i've restored about six pictures and an mp3 with no troubles. even found pictures and music i had deleted long ago, and restored them for kicks.
one question though, should Undelete reside on the phone, or is it okay to move it to the SD as well? i've never tried to move it to the SD because i assumed it would cause issues. Undelete is quite small so having it on the phone really isn't an issue, but i like to keep as many apps on the SD as possible.
thanks for the great app. my fat fingers thank you too.
There should be no issues. If you do have some, let me know!
And of course, please leave a review on the market, that can help a lot, considering how many crumby reviews this app gets...
Thanks!
That sounds like something worth checking out
Please do! Let me know if you have any issues!
Any issues to report?
Is there an app that will ensure proper deletion so that apps like this don't work?
tejrl said:
Is there an app that will ensure proper deletion so that apps like this don't work?
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This app will do it! Did i forget to leave that out of the description? You have to long press an item an choose "wipe".
You can also wipe in batch mode.
App is on saly - $2 dollars for to coincide with the upcoming release of 1.5!
We have almost completed work on Undelete 2.0 - it will be released tomorrow!
Looking forward to it! I saw the beta on the other site, but it was locked
Its coming in an hour or so!
Working perfectly THANK YOU!
Thank you! Enjoy!
Is there a hidden place where I can get this?
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0mie said:
Is there a hidden place where I can get this?
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Silly me i forgot to post the link. Done.
Anything to report?
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[Q] File Explorer/manger on WP 8 ?

Just got my wife a Lumia 520 and i noticed it does not have a file manager... is this normal?
I'm used to have file manager on Android so this is quite lame...
Also any idea on how to add musics (MP3/WMA) on the ringtones?
Thks
So... the Internet has these things called "search engines" which you can use to find all manner of cool things. You should really try using one of them.
1: Yes, it's normal that there is no file manager built into WP8. There wasn't one in WP7, either. This is not news. Know what you're buying...
2: There are apps (both on the Store and on this forum) which add very limited file browsing and management capability. However, the OS is extremely restrictive of app permissions - moreso than your typical Android build - so most of the filesystem is unreadable and all but a tiny portion of what's left is read-only.
3: Did you even read the little info sheet that comes with your phone? You would save us all a bunch of time if you did. Connect the phone to your computer using USB. It will appear as an MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) device. You can use this to copy media files (including songs and ringtones) to the phone, as well as copying other media files (such as pictures or video you took) from the phone to the PC. If you're running Windows, it will also offer to install an app to make synching easier. Pretty much every OS has tools for working with MTP devices, including all desktop-oriented Linux distros I've ever tried.
Think of the apps as the file browser. An app that can manipulate a certain file type will show you all of that type of file on your phone. Coming from android you will have to rework your way of using your phone. And SKY DRIVE is your friend. And I'm glad you posted your question because I for one have used and love wp8 although I use my note 2 as my daily. I love people that say search for the answer yet give a long drawn out sarcastic answer anyway.
1.No file browser.
2.Use apps for manipulation of said files
3.Sky drive is your friend. It COULD be said it's wp8s file manager.
4. Have fun!
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You can hook your phone to your PC and use the Windows Phone app for desk top, this will let you browse your files as far as music, ringtones, pictures and videos; I'm not sure if it includes documents but it the closest to what you are looking for because system files are off limit like the guys just explained.
What I don't understand is if you can view your files from your PC why can you do the same from the phone? Oh well maybe one day like in an update; this would be cool for browsing for files on your SD card...
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So... the Internet has these things called "search engines" which you can use to find all manner of cool things. You should really try using one of them.
1: Yes, it's normal that there is no file manager built into WP8. There wasn't one in WP7, either. This is not news. Know what you're buying...
2: There are apps (both on the Store and on this forum) which add very limited file browsing and management capability. However, the OS is extremely restrictive of app permissions - moreso than your typical Android build - so most of the filesystem is unreadable and all but a tiny portion of what's left is read-only.
3: Did you even read the little info sheet that comes with your phone? You would save us all a bunch of time if you did. Connect the phone to your computer using USB. It will appear as an MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) device. You can use this to copy media files (including songs and ringtones) to the phone, as well as copying other media files (such as pictures or video you took) from the phone to the PC. If you're running Windows, it will also offer to install an app to make synching easier. Pretty much every OS has tools for working with MTP devices, including all desktop-oriented Linux distros I've ever tried.
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Ok so i appreciated the help but i don't really explain well in the OP.
I apologize for the way i wrote the OP, i was frustrated after unsuccessful search for a way to work around the limitations of the OS...
I did not know that the WP7 and 8 did not add an file manager, but the other part i did know :/ so no need to be so sarcastic in your reply (last time a used a Windows based phone it add windows mobile and it did have file explorer much like other OS's).
What i really meant was if anyone knows a way to work around the OS locks on the file system and of course an file explorer that uses it... But after more search i find none
I'm still pretty happy with the lumia 520... just frustrated that i cant add files were i wanted.
Yeah, that exact question has been asked before. People are working on it. Part of the reason I wrote my webserver app was to facilitate deeper exploration of WP8 in the hopes of finding a way to unlock more permissions. So far, no dice. The OS is still young, however.
With that said, from a "what can I do with it" perspective, it's best to think of WP8 as being like iOS: until or unless "jailbroken", everything runs with extremely low permissions.
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Yeah, that exact question has been asked before. People are working on it. Part of the reason I wrote my webserver app was to facilitate deeper exploration of WP8 in the hopes of finding a way to unlock more permissions. So far, no dice. The OS is still young, however.
With that said, from a "what can I do with it" perspective, it's best to think of WP8 as being like iOS: until or unless "jailbroken", everything runs with extremely low permissions.
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Ok thanks for the info .
After some research i got the idea that WP8 as worst than iOS in terms of restrictions :/...
Thats really a shame because this Lumia 520 hardware its really nice for the price. It will be awesome wen someone is able to root it.
Still i will keep using Android on my personal phone... (this one was bought for my wife).
sinister1 said:
You can hook your phone to your PC and use the Windows Phone app for desk top, this will let you browse your files as far as music, ringtones, pictures and videos; I'm not sure if it includes documents but it the closest to what you are looking for because system files are off limit like the guys just explained.
What I don't understand is if you can view your files from your PC why can you do the same from the phone? Oh well maybe one day like in an update; this would be cool for browsing for files on your SD card...
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So far i can't move files (wma and MP3) to the inner folders on the ringtone folder... and the custom ringtone option does not let me chose other files than the one it came from factory
Not really a big bummer but it just seems a stupid limitation...
"Inner folders"? I just dragged files to Phone\Ringtones and they appeared at the top of the list, under "Custom". I didn't even need to resize them or change the genre, as WP7 required.
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"Inner folders"? I just dragged files to Phone\Ringtones and they appeared at the top of the list, under "Custom". I didn't even need to resize them or change the genre, as WP7 required.
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Well i tried every folder on the phone (that are available to the user) and the OS still does not let me choose custom musics for ringtones... :/
Exnor said:
Well i tried every folder on the phone (that are available to the user) and the OS still does not let me choose custom musics for ringtones... :/
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Music files should go into the music folder and ringtone files go into the ringtone folder, this is what I did; I put in an SD card and created Folders on it with the same name as the ones on the internal storage and placed all my music and ringtone files there, when you go to ringtones it shows up under custom, if your talking about alert tones for MMS or SMS then you are out of luck other than ringtones the only thing you can change is your alarm tones.
This is a big mistake by MS by not allowing users to use customer tones form email and SMS or MMS their are customers that are actually returning their phones and exchanging them for Android and even iPhones because of this and other limitations. Users have been asking for this since 2011 on MS's very own suggestion page (check it out here) and MS hasn't even responded or given a hit to fixing this issue.
For you guys who know me well and see that I bring this subject up a lot, I apologize but MS needs to wake up and stop trying to restrict even the simplest of tasks.
1. Connect the phone via USB. An MTP device, with the phone's name, will appear (for example, in Windows Explorer).
2. Open the phone device. You will see a "drive" called "Phone". There may be a second volume called "SD card".
3. Open the Phone volume. You will see the following folders: Documents, Music, Pictures, Ringtones, Video.
4. Open the Rintones folder. It should not have any sub-folders.
5. Copy the music you want to use, as MP3 or DRM-free WMA (I think DRM-free AAC/M4A also works), into this folder.
6. On the phone, go to Settings, then Ringtones+Sounds, and tap on the box under Ringtone.
7. Scroll to the top of the list. There will be a header "Custom", under which the music you added to the Ringtones folder will be listed (by title metadata, not file name).
8. Tap the Play icon beside a song if you want to see how it sounds as a ringtone, then tap the song you want to use as your ringtone.
If this doesn't work, be very, very specific about what step looks wrong (i.e. is not as described) and what you see instead. Also, be specific about the kind of music you're trying to use. I have tested using 128Kbps (constant bit rate) stereo 44.1KHz MP3 and WMA files of up to about 4:40 long.
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Music files should go into the music folder and ringtone files go into the ringtone folder, this is what I did; I put in an SD card and created Folders on it with the same name as the ones on the internal storage and placed all my music and ringtone files there, when you go to ringtones it shows up under custom, if your talking about alert tones for MMS or SMS then you are out of luck other than ringtones the only thing you can change is your alarm tones.
This is a big mistake by MS by not allowing users to use customer tones form email and SMS or MMS their are customers that are actually returning their phones and exchanging them for Android and even iPhones because of this and other limitations. Users have been asking for this since 2011 on MS's very own suggestion page (check it out here) and MS hasn't even responded or given a hit to fixing this issue.
For you guys who know me well and see that I bring this subject up a lot, I apologize but MS needs to wake up and stop trying to restrict even the simplest of tasks.
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Ok i'm gonna try with an SD card and i will post my results. Thks for the tip :good:
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1. Connect the phone via USB. An MTP device, with the phone's name, will appear (for example, in Windows Explorer).
2. Open the phone device. You will see a "drive" called "Phone". There may be a second volume called "SD card".
3. Open the Phone volume. You will see the following folders: Documents, Music, Pictures, Ringtones, Video.
4. Open the Rintones folder. It should not have any sub-folders.
5. Copy the music you want to use, as MP3 or DRM-free WMA (I think DRM-free AAC/M4A also works), into this folder.
6. On the phone, go to Settings, then Ringtones+Sounds, and tap on the box under Ringtone.
7. Scroll to the top of the list. There will be a header "Custom", under which the music you added to the Ringtones folder will be listed (by title metadata, not file name).
8. Tap the Play icon beside a song if you want to see how it sounds as a ringtone, then tap the song you want to use as your ringtone.
If this doesn't work, be very, very specific about what step looks wrong (i.e. is not as described) and what you see instead. Also, be specific about the kind of music you're trying to use. I have tested using 128Kbps (constant bit rate) stereo 44.1KHz MP3 and WMA files of up to about 4:40 long.
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Yep did all that ...
The only thing i did not try yet is to create a subfolder in the Ringtones folder like i've read somewhere... i will try to do all the processes again and try other tips and i will post my results as soon as i can.
Thks for the help
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1. Connect the phone via USB. An MTP device, with the phone's name, will appear (for example, in Windows Explorer).
2. Open the phone device. You will see a "drive" called "Phone". There may be a second volume called "SD card".
3. Open the Phone volume. You will see the following folders: Documents, Music, Pictures, Ringtones, Video.
4. Open the Rintones folder. It should not have any sub-folders.
5. Copy the music you want to use, as MP3 or DRM-free WMA (I think DRM-free AAC/M4A also works), into this folder.
6. On the phone, go to Settings, then Ringtones+Sounds, and tap on the box under Ringtone.
7. Scroll to the top of the list. There will be a header "Custom", under which the music you added to the Ringtones folder will be listed (by title metadata, not file name).
8. Tap the Play icon beside a song if you want to see how it sounds as a ringtone, then tap the song you want to use as your ringtone.
If this doesn't work, be very, very specific about what step looks wrong (i.e. is not as described) and what you see instead. Also, be specific about the kind of music you're trying to use. I have tested using 128Kbps (constant bit rate) stereo 44.1KHz MP3 and WMA files of up to about 4:40 long.
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Finally i got it to work...
Like i've said i've done the above (like you suggested) the 1st time and repeated and nothing happen.. so i reset the phone!
Copied just one file to the ringtone folder and success it worked (!). I don't know why it did not the other times ... Now my wife can copy her musics and put hers ringtones as she like.
Here is my device info in case its usefull for anyone:
model: Lumia 520
MMN: RM-914_eu_portugal_281
OS version: 8.0.10211.204
HW rev:1.0.0.0
Firmware rev: 1030.6408.1309.0003
Thanks for the help guys
OS is young and the questions you posted, really needs to be solved. MS has put too much restrictions in OS but I think it will open some APIs and remove some restrictions in WP blue update due in early 2014. I only need limited file explorer to manage my personal files, a good Music & Video app(VLC is coming) and a notification center, that's it. All would be well for me to jump the ship from Android.
Btw, try Kirik file browser. It gives you some limited accessibilities on SD card.
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Vishwal said:
OS is young and the questions you posted, really needs to be solved. MS has put too much restrictions in OS but I think it will open some APIs and remove some restrictions in WP blue update due in early 2014. I only need limited file explorer to manage my personal files, a good Music & Video app(VLC is coming) and a notification center, that's it. All would be well for me to jump the ship from Android.
Btw, try Kirik file browser. It gives you some limited accessibilities on SD card.
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I completely agree. MS still as lot to do on this OS... But for people who don't need more computing options its a good choice (i think i like it better than iOS...).
Thx for the tip, i've already try it does help a little.
So far besides the OS limitations my biggest disappointment is the store... there is not enough programs to satisfy my needs :/ But like i stated before i'm happy with the device (actually my wife is lol since its her that uses it).
Switching from Android... hmm no. I don't see myself switch to WP or iOS (btw i have iPod touch 4th gen) for so many reasons, but to start the integration with my Google account and services.
I had a Qtek back in 2k3 (actually was a job phone) and used Windows Mobile (or was it CE?? cant remember) and back then i love it. But the "updated" Windows OS for mobile does not give me the same experience. Android so far is my favorite (gonna give a try to Ubuntu touch since i use Ubuntu at work... lets see how it performs).
The whole thing is that WP8 is designed to protected installed apps _from other installed apps_. Any data an app writes, is completely off limits to any other application. So a file manager would be compeltely pointless. If someone would create one, you could create files and maybe even download files in the folders you created.... but no other app would ever see that data.
this makes programs that can download data (Windows File sharing, FTP clients, etc..) to be played by another program (music player, video player, etc..) impossible.
I do agree though that WP8 needs to create a single 'unmanaged, unprotected data pool' where all apps can write / read, probably organized by folders just so people understand it.
If an app then wants to write data there, it knows it got no protection and is on its own. But if an app wants to write personal data (appointments, messages, contacts, that kinda of thing) it can write it in it's own data store like WP8 is now and the data is protected from every other possible app.
If they will do this for Blue... I don't know. I haven't seen it on a list anywhere yet.
Well, you can ask the OS to open a file (the equivalent of ShellExecute on Win32) and that can be used as a form of inter-app communication and file passing (sending a file from a file browser to the media player is possible, for example). The trick is that it's a blind push; there's no way to ask for the file back, or query what files there are. Also, the other app needs to choose to download the file.
There are Capabilities in the WP8 security policies which could be used to make a decent file browser, at least for the basic stuff (media libraries, documents, a "common area" on the file system, etc.). However, we cannot currently sideload any application which uses them, and I very much doubt MS would let us publish such an app through the store (although it might be worth trying...)
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Well, you can ask the OS to open a file (the equivalent of ShellExecute on Win32) and that can be used as a form of inter-app communication and file passing (sending a file from a file browser to the media player is possible, for example). The trick is that it's a blind push; there's no way to ask for the file back, or query what files there are. Also, the other app needs to choose to download the file.
There are Capabilities in the WP8 security policies which could be used to make a decent file browser, at least for the basic stuff (media libraries, documents, a "common area" on the file system, etc.). However, we cannot currently sideload any application which uses them, and I very much doubt MS would let us publish such an app through the store (although it might be worth trying...)
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I am fairly certain the current situation will probably change with WP8.1.
if wpdev voice website is an indication of their intentions for wp8.1, things will look very nice soon enough.

Why I hate MTP

Just updated to KitKat and connected my Nexus to the PC. Found a curious folder named storage, it was empty.
I thought maybe some app created this folder, so I deleted it. BAMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!
My SDcard is free from all this unnecessary stuff, like photos, music and what else Android thought I didn't need anymore.
So what I want to say is just don't delete any "empty" folder on your sdcard
Take care
PS: I hate MTP, google shouldn't have used it in android
Of course you have all that stuff backed up....!?
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chiwou said:
Just updated to KitKat and connected my Nexus to the PC. Found a curious folder named storage, it was empty.
I thought maybe some app created this folder, so I deleted it. BAMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!
My SDcard is free from all this unnecessary stuff, like photos, music and what else Android thought I didn't need anymore.
So what I want to say is just don't delete any "empty" folder on your sdcard
Take care
PS: I hate MTP, google shouldn't have used it in android
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Come on, just don't delete stuff. MTP is not a problem, it ensures ext4 compatibility with different desktops.
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reqmon said:
Come on, just don't delete stuff. MTP is not a problem, it ensures ext4 compatibility with different desktops.
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but I think there is a better solution like it's used on usb sticks, and I can delete every damn "empty" folder I want
gori11a said:
Of course you have all that stuff backed up....!?
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nope :silly: but I love the auto backup tools from google+ and dropbox, so it's not that bad, it just really annoying and bugs me
chiwou said:
Just updated to KitKat and connected my Nexus to the PC. Found a curious folder named storage, it was empty.
I thought maybe some app created this folder, so I deleted it. BAMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!
My SDcard is free from all this unnecessary stuff, like photos, music and what else Android thought I didn't need anymore.
So what I want to say is just don't delete any "empty" folder on your sdcard
Take care
PS: I hate MTP, google shouldn't have used it in android
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The same happened to me last weekend. Luckily I had all my apps backed up daily with Titanium Backup to Box.net and my photos with Dropbox. The positive outcome for me was that I finally got allot of disk space back that I wouldn't have manged myself.
You don't want the solution like on USB sticks. For starters, FAT is extremely inefficient compared to EXT3/4 and if phone storage size keeps expanding we will hit a brick wall that FAT can't handle, then what? NTFS? NTFS works on *nix just fine but it is even more inefficient than FAT since it's all reverse engineered which might also cause issues with licensing.
MTP just needs some maturing. It's a little buggy under Linux but other than an occasional odd error message (it's very beta) transferring media it works just fine.
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You don't want the solution like on USB sticks. For starters, FAT is extremely inefficient compared to EXT3/4 and if phone storage size keeps expanding we will hit a brick wall that FAT can't handle, then what? NTFS? NTFS works on *nix just fine but it is even more inefficient than FAT since it's all reverse engineered which might also cause issues with licensing.
MTP just needs some maturing. It's a little buggy under Linux but other than an occasional odd error message (it's very beta) transferring media it works just fine.
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Because of maturity and some other factors I use FTP to transfer files, not MTP. It's wireless, fast and easy ^_^.
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Ha! 'rant' as a keyword!
I once deleted it in JellyBean,when I found something was wrong ,I clicked the cancel,but it's too late,everything is gone……
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for some, MTP does not work well under windows environment..
unfortunately im one of them.. (and "hate" is quite an accurate description of my actual feeling in this matter)
now im mostly using samba to transfer files between phone and pc..
I came to realize that if I ever find the need to extract or backup or move files from my phone, always use the darn Nexus ToolKit. I use to for any device as long as the ADB is recognized.
Its glitchy, it once had my Titanium folder as an file instead of a folder. I was super picky and hawkish on deleting stuff on my Nexus 4 because its 16gb. Now on Nexus 5, 32gb I tend to not give a dam.
It is annoying
MTP is slow, only shows Image Thumbnails in the DCIM (or something) Folder and is not meant to be used for Multitasking.
I had the EXACT same problem.
Just wanted to clean my internal storage, deleted the Folder and bam ... everything gone.
Lost about 2 months of Images and ... yea, seriously sucks.
Got point about that, I got enough space again
I did that once too.
It is really confusing for average users.
Also, it is slow and not detecting all files most of the time.
Yes I know it can be fixed by rescanning media or rebooting the phone, but then again this is so trouble and average users would just assumed that they can plug in the phone to pc and use it.

[Q] File manager officially confirmed?

I don't know if anyone voted for new features for WP8, but if you did, you should get mail from admins that file manager is now available.
Check it here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...ons/3365632-add-file-manager-to-windows-phone
Also I've got mail for disabling auto rotation:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...tions/suggestions/2282917-disable-auto-rotate
Anyone know what is all that about? If it's on some new update, it wouldn't say it's available now.
head0 said:
I don't know if anyone voted for new features for WP8, but if you did, you should get mail from admins that file manager is now available.
Check it here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...ons/3365632-add-file-manager-to-windows-phone
Also I've got mail for disabling auto rotation:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...tions/suggestions/2282917-disable-auto-rotate
Anyone know what is all that about? If it's on some new update, it wouldn't say it's available now.
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Great news.
In addition to the update on uservoice (http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/file-manager-coming-to-windows-phone-8-2-12-2013/)
there is a report that it will be coming in WP8.1 in Q2 2014 http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/file-manager-coming-to-windows-phone-8-2-12-2013/
I'm on android but I will definitely check back on WP when this happens.
CSMR said:
Great news.
In addition to the update on uservoice (http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/file-manager-coming-to-windows-phone-8-2-12-2013/)
there is a report that it will be coming in WP8.1 in Q2 2014 http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/file-manager-coming-to-windows-phone-8-2-12-2013/
I'm on android but I will definitely check back on WP when this happens.
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And what you gonna do with the jpg file, move/copy where if only the hubs can open it? Useless feature.
djtonka said:
And what you gonna do with the jpg file, move/copy where if only the hubs can open it? Useless feature.
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If MS implemented this feature so that the file manager would only show "hubs" and only allow you to move things in folders within these hubs, they would have to be real idiots.
A file manager means having user documents accessible by programs. Pretty much if you have one, you have the other. And ordinary people understand what a file manager is, so the request is always for a file manager, even though having a user documents folder accessible by programs is more important.
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If MS implemented this feature so that the file manager would only show "hubs" and only allow you to move things in folders within these hubs, they would have to be real idiots.
A file manager means having user documents accessible by programs. Pretty much if you have one, you have the other. And ordinary people understand what a file manager is, so the request is always for a file manager, even though having a user documents folder accessible by programs is more important.
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As I have previously stated to all the QQ threads on this forum, windows phone does not need a file manager like windows 8 has.
As long as third party apps can asociate with the files they need to open, we will be fine, because developers can detect files on the phone very easily using the Microsoft API. The biggest problem is not the lack of a file manager, is the lack of permissions to allow third party apps to open files which are restricted by the system, like mp3 files.
If apps had full access to SD cards and the user file system, everybody would be happy.
Given how the API seems to be building around, this file manager will be restricted to hubs and third party apps will still not be able to open whatever files they want to.
On the other hand, they might give us a SDK update, but there are no news on the developer site...
Oh, I still disagree with that, quite a bit in fact.
Even leaving it limited to the "user" parts of the phone, there's lots of obvious cases for a file browser / manager.
* A simple one would be to provide an easy way to correct problems like duplicated files, renaming documents, copying a music file to the "ringtones" folder, and so on. Plus of course the ability to categorize and organize files using folders. Basically, the stuff you can do from a PC over USB.
* A little bit more advanced, but still pretty useful and obvious, would be the ability to open files (into whatever app the user wants) from a central location, rather than needing to go to the app first and hope that the app has a way to open the file. This is especially obvious when one considers downloaded files, which currently can only be opened once (by the app that you select at that time, which must then copy the file locally if it wants to keep it; no other app will be able to access that file unless you download it again).
* Another important need is to provide something that functions like the SD card for phones which don't have one. For an OS that doesn't require the presence of such a card, WP8 has a number of features which you can only use if you *do* have one. Example: using the standard MTP over USB access, if I want to add ebooks to my phone, I have to copy the ebooks to the SD card, then go into the e-reader app and tell it to load the books from the card. If I don't have a card, I'm screwed; there's no other way except to open them one at a time as email attachments or something similarly stupid. A universally accessible folder (even if it was read-only to third-party apps) for such content would make a lot of sense.
For those of you who say this feature would be useless, go and find a particular ringtone on your phone and share it with someone via Bluetooth, message, email or however you want heck use Skydrive and then come back and tell me if you can even navigate to the ringtones folder using Xbox Music.
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sinister1 said:
For those of you who say this feature would be useless, go and find a particular ringtone on your phone and share it with someone via Bluetooth, message, email or however you want heck use Skydrive and then come back and tell me if you can even navigate to the ringtones folder using Xbox Music.
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Any one
From what I read on WPCentral, this was a mistake being marked as complete, so false alarm regardless.
P.S. I am in the camp of wanting a file manager/explorer.
Sadly, true. You can see that on the uservoice site directly... :-/
They will probably give a full file manager with windows phone 9 or something.
That's right.
The forum admin says that the thread's were mistakenly marked as accomplished.
Way go MS.Nice idea for fixing problems. ;(
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I take it that no response to my question above means it's not possible to do on WP, Okay how about downloading a pdf file from an email or SkyDrive? The reasons for a native file explorer on WP is so obvious. Not everyone carries a tablet or laptop computer with them at all times just to be able to explore, rename, save or copy files on their phone.

WP8.1 (Lumia 520) Resized pictures if attached to email

Hi,
I've noticed in 8.1 version pictures - if attached to the email - are always resized.
Example:
- original picture shared via bluetooth: 2592x1456 pixel
- original picture sent via mail: 1632x916 pixel
I saw - with another lumia and wp7.8 - the same "issue".
Now with the 520 updated to wp8.1 nothing is changed.
Is there some setting/way in order to attach pictures to the email without losing resolution?
Thanks
sverza said:
Hi,
I've noticed in 8.1 version pictures - if attached to the email - are always resized.
Example:
- original picture shared via bluetooth: 2592x1456 pixel
- original picture sent via mail: 1632x916 pixel
I saw - with another lumia and wp7.8 - the same "issue".
Now with the 520 updated to wp8.1 nothing is changed.
Is there some setting/way in order to attach pictures to the email without losing resolution?
Thanks
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You can share via OneDrive
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You can share via OneDrive
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Ok, if I don't want to use it?
It may work to use a file manager app (like Aerize Explorer, Files, Pocket File Manager, etc.) to select the file and choose to "share" it via Email. The resizing is probably being done via the Photos app, the other apps won't do that.
If it's still getting resized, put the file in a ZIP first and then email the ZIP. Some of the file manager apps can do that.
The obvious other option, since if for some reason full-size files are needed a PC is probably involved anyhow, is to copy the files off the phone (via USB, Bluetooth, whatever) and email them from the PC.
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It may work to use a file manager app (like Aerize Explorer, Files, Pocket File Manager, etc.) to select the file and choose to "share" it via Email. The resizing is probably being done via the Photos app, the other apps won't do that.
If it's still getting resized, put the file in a ZIP first and then email the ZIP. Some of the file manager apps can do that.
The obvious other option, since if for some reason full-size files are needed a PC is probably involved anyhow, is to copy the files off the phone (via USB, Bluetooth, whatever) and email them from the PC.
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Thanks for your answer.
I'm searching the easier way to "share" pictures without losing resolution... considering that the user that use the phone isn't so good with tech... and if I tell her something like zip or something else the result can be deleterious...
Anyway, also for my knowledge (personally I'm not using WP) I will try your suggestions
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, if you want to do something like send everybody full-resolution photos from your vacation or whatever, copying them to the PC first is a good idea regardless. It *is* annoying that the app shrinks the photos before sending, but not really a huge surprise. WP8 tried pretty hard to reduce cellular data usage, and sending photos from a phone can use a lot of it if they're full-res.
It should also be pretty easy to make an app that just does photo sharing stuff, at full res (instead of using the built-in one). In fact, I'd be shocked if you (or your friend) can't already find a suitable one on the store.

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