Rooted and returned - Nexus 7 General

So, I rooted my last N7 to give the "washed out screen after video" fix a try (which worked great for me, btw). I decided that I couldn't live with the yellow tint to the screen, and the screen lift got worse on that unit while I owned it, so I processed it for a return and will wait a little awhile until stock is back in B&M stores (tired of the UPS shuffle).
Unfortunately, this was my first time rooting and I had the mistaken impression that performing a factory reset got rid of root. Oops. I therefore sent it back while still rooted.
What do you think the chances are that the tech who inspects it for the return will check it for root? If he does and they reject the return, so be it. I'm kind of inclined to think it's not really something they regularly check.
Thoughts? Just how much anxiety should I allow myself to feel over this screw up?

All they have to do is turn it on to see that it is rooted, which they will probably do to check out the yellowish tint. As for if they will decline your return or not, I have no idea. If you sent it to Google you should be ok but ASUS has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to rooting and warranty (They have denied legitimat physical issues due to rooting).

miketoasty said:
All they have to do is turn it on to see that it is rooted, which they will probably do to check out the yellowish tint. As for if they will decline your return or not, I have no idea. If you sent it to Google you should be ok but ASUS has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to rooting and warranty (They have denied legitimat physical issues due to rooting).
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Not to highjack, but I think myself and wynand32 might share similar curiosity now that you brought that one point up - What did ASUS do in that scenario? Did they ship the unit back to the customer?

miketoasty said:
All they have to do is turn it on to see that it is rooted, which they will probably do to check out the yellowish tint. As for if they will decline your return or not, I have no idea. If you sent it to Google you should be ok but ASUS has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to rooting and warranty (They have denied legitimat physical issues due to rooting).
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How can they tell it's rooted just by turning it on? I didn't mention that I was smart enough to re-lock the bootloader...
Oh, and yes, this was a return to Google Play. Note that it's the same facility where ASUS takes returns, however.

Well, whatever happens, keep us posted! I would be interested in knowing how this gets resolved.

I'll definitely report back. But if anyone wants to clarify that "they can tell it's rooted by turning it on" part, I'd appreciate it. I know there's an unlock icon when the bootloader's unlocked, but I wasn't aware of anything obvious when it's "just" rooted.
Thanks!

wynand32 said:
Thoughts? Just how much anxiety should I allow myself to feel over this screw up?
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£159/$200 worth of anxiety...

wynand32 said:
I'll definitely report back. But if anyone wants to clarify that "they can tell it's rooted by turning it on" part, I'd appreciate it. I know there's an unlock icon when the bootloader's unlocked, but I wasn't aware of anything obvious when it's "just" rooted.
Thanks!
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The booting up should look like stock but (s)he could see the superuser app
Thats the only difference visible from just going through

Jordanooo said:
The booting up should look like stock but (s)he could see the superuser app
Thats the only difference visible from just going through
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The boot animation, going into "About Device" if you flashed a ROM/kernel, finding the superuser app. Any of the above.

I would think it wouldn't make a difference if you're returning it for hardware issues.
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ExploreMN said:
I would think it wouldn't make a difference if you're returning it for hardware issues.
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As I stated above, ASUS has denied warranty returns for faulty charging ports because the tablet was rooted.

I'm pretty sure Asus has a problem with unlocked bootloaders, not root access. The OP should be fine.
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Jordanooo said:
The booting up should look like stock but (s)he could see the superuser app
Thats the only difference visible from just going through
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Well, since I'm new to all this stuff, here's what I think: I did relock the bootloader, so the unlock icon isn't there. I didn't install a different ROM, so it's just rooted stock. I did a factory reset, so there shouldn't be any obvious app loaded (should there?).
I'd hope that the tech would have to open a terminal and do an su command or somesuch, but that's really what I'm wondering now. Will a stock N7 that's been factory reset show anything obvious?

CrazyPeter said:
£159/$200 worth of anxiety...
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Hee hee... Yeah, I was waiting for someone to say that. That's not precisely correct, though, because even if they refuse the return they'd just have to send it back to me (and charge me shipping) or maybe take it but charge a restock fee (which they're waiving because of the defects).
So, the cost would be at most about $37, or about $15 and I'd be stuck with a yellow tint and screen lift. Which is to put a precise price on the anxiety...

wynand32 said:
Well, since I'm new to all this stuff, here's what I think: I did relock the bootloader, so the unlock icon isn't there. I didn't install a different ROM, so it's just rooted stock. I did a factory reset, so there shouldn't be any obvious app loaded (should there?).
I'd hope that the tech would have to open a terminal and do an su command or somesuch, but that's really what I'm wondering now. Will a stock N7 that's been factory reset show anything obvious?
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Nope. Just superuser app in the app draw

Jordanooo said:
Nope. Just superuser app in the app draw
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Okay, so, sorry to be obtuse, but: there's a "superuser app" that's installed in the app drawer even on a stock device that's been factory reset? Now I'm just curious how all this stuff works. I had no idea that such an app was installed when I rooted the N7, and that the app would remain when it was reset.
Now I wish I had an N7 to play with to see how it all works.

wynand32 said:
Okay, so, sorry to be obtuse, but: there's a "superuser app" that's installed in the app drawer even on a stock device that's been factory reset? Now I'm just curious how all this stuff works. I had no idea that such an app was installed when I rooted the N7, and that the app would remain when it was reset.
Now I wish I had an N7 to play with to see how it all works.
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It's in /system/app therefore considered a "factory" app and will not be affected by /data reset

Harry GT-S5830 said:
It's in /system/app therefore considered a "factory" app and will not be affected by /data reset
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Okay, thanks. It'll be interesting to see if 1) the tech notices the app/rooting and 2) if they reject the return because of it. Of course, there's also the chance that they'll notice that it's rooted and not reject it, in which case we may never know.
I'll report back...

I can't comment personally but you may find this interesting: http://youtu.be/9YcIHaajda8

Actually, now that I think about it, the last time I RMA'd my Transformer Prime, I just wiped it and did not unroot. Asus didn't have a problem with it.

Related

Nexus 7 Shipped with Test ROM

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Yesterday I bought Google Nexus from my local MacMall (Chicago), and I was pretty stoked. The first thing I noticed upon opening it was that the box had been re-sealed. Then I tried to turn it on and the battery was dead. I thought that was kind of unusual, but not unheard of. Then I charged it and turned it on...
Below are pictures describing what I saw. I am going to exchange the device this afternoon. I was wondering if anyone has ever seen something like this and would anyone be interested in playing around with this ROM. I would imagine it is a proprietary ASUS build, but they sold it to me so it's mine now. I would be happy to post a link to the ROM, but I don't know how to extract it. (I'm sure there is a post explaining that, please direct me to it).
Here are links to the pictures:
There is a weird bar at the top:
moworldenterprises(dot)com(slash)Testing(slash)Nexus(slash)SS01.jpg
Here is the version info:
moworldenterprises(dot)com(slash)Testing(slash)Nexus(slash)SS02.jpg
Here are some of the testing apps:
moworldenterprises(dot)com(slash)Testing(slash)Nexus(slash)SS03.jpg
The serial number is all 1's:
moworldenterprises(dot)com(slash)Testing(slash)Nexus(slash)SS04.jpg
let me know if you want me to post any other information/pictures about the device.
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There is a weird bar at the top:
www.moworldenterprises.com/Testing/Nexus/SS01.jpg
Here is the version info:
www.moworldenterprises.com/Testing/Nexus/SS02.jpg
Here are some of the testing apps:
www.moworldenterprises.com/Testing/Nexus/SS03.jpg
The serial number is all 1's:
www.moworldenterprises.com/Testing/Nexus/SS04.jpg
let me know if you want me to post any other information/pictures about the device.
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Fixed the links for you.
sweet, hopefully there is something useful
Do NOT return this! This is a very good find! Maybe if you could unlock the bootloader and make a Nandroid backup in CWM...
Perhaps stick it on ebay as a Buy It Now for the price it would cost you to order another one...
That way if it is truly interesting to someone, they have to opportunity of putting up (or shutting up).
No do not unlock it yet, it will erase everything. Do a system image dump. There is a toolkit in the developers section. Post it in there.
Also i noticed its running ICS
Don't send it back yet, let the devs get what they need
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Don't send it back yet, let the devs get what they need
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Lol.
The devs don't need anything from this unless you actually want to DOWNGRADE your device.
We can build AOSP from source, we don't need this build for anything at all.
Just put it on eBay :good:
Sorry I'm a Noob
nerfman100 said:
Do NOT return this! This is a very good find! Maybe if you could unlock the bootloader and make a Nandroid backup in CWM...
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I thought someone here might want this, but I have to return it today (it is for my wife). I'm "good with puters" so I can follow instructions well, but I've never rooted or jailbroken anything in my life. I'm at work so I don't have lots of time to search forums for the proper instructions. If someone really wants this, you have about two hours to post instructions for me to backup or image or whatever it is called a copy of this ROM before I return it. I'll check back every five.
I am downloading the Root Toolkit now
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Lol.
We can build AOSP from source, we don't need this build for anything at all.
Just put it on eBay :good:
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Thanks, that's all I needed to know, I'll just return it and get a stock one. Just out of curiosity, and in case someone on the forums wants it, how would I go about "copying" this ROM? and could it be done in the next hour?
DroidHam said:
Don't send it back yet, let the devs get what they need
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This actually made me lol
You do know this is a nexus tablet right???
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ICS on it. How strange. Makes you wonder if they were intending to launch with that on it instead of JB.
Does it have any screen raise issues or faults?
Again, I'm a Noob.
Arthur Hucksake said:
Does it have any screen raise issues or faults?
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I'm not really sure what you mean by "raise issues or faults". It's hard to show, but when I drag my finger accross the screen, it draws a line with many dots and H and V coordinate lines. That was a horrible description. Basically, it looks like it is mapping the touchscreen feedback and then rendering a line. The line quickly disappears. The white and red boxes at the top of the screen acually have numbers written on them and those numbers change as you touch the screen. There is also like a red Frame the flashes on the screen when I select an app. I will try to post some some pictures/maybe a video. My phone sucks though so the quality wont be that good.
PhatWebah said:
I'm not really sure what you mean by "raise issues or faults". It's hard to show, but when I drag my finger accross the screen, it draws a line with many dots and H and V coordinate lines. That was a horrible description. Basically, it looks like it is mapping the touchscreen feedback and then rendering a line. The line quickly disappears. The white and red boxes at the top of the screen acually have numbers written on them and those numbers change as you touch the screen. There is also like a red Frame the flashes on the screen when I select an app. I will try to post some some pictures/maybe a video. My phone sucks though so the quality wont be that good.
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What you're describing is the 'Show touches' and 'Pointer Location' options that can be enabled in Settings>Developer options on Jelly Bean.
Video:
moworldenterprises(dot)com (slash)Testing(slash)Nexus(slash)weirdness.3pg
KiNG OMaR said:
Lol.
The devs don't need anything from this unless you actually want to DOWNGRADE your device.
We can build AOSP from source, we don't need this build for anything at all.
Just put it on eBay :good:
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It appears to have test apps not included in AOSP.
You should try to cold boot to recovery from the bootloader and see if it'll go without being hooked up to a computer. Maybe the bootloader is different than production.
Can't he try flashing the stock rom over this? If there are no hardware faults, why risk getting one that might be defective?
What would devs need from this ... This isn't a Samsung / HTC device
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Please do a nandroid. Tests have shown ICS has better raw performance than JB. I would love to see an ICS ROM on these at least to just test it out.
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"Stock" For Sprint Techs

Ok guys, the purple tint camera issue is killing me. As always, last I went weeks ago... They blamed root. Is this plan here possible so I won't have to unroot and remove s-off.
1. Flash the hex edited hboot that says "locked" and "s-on"
2. Flash one of the stock roms from either viper or indirect, but remove superuser!
3. Flash a stock recovery
Do you think it'll work?
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XaoSilentrzk said:
Ok guys, the purple tint camera issue is killing me. As always, last I went weeks ago... They blamed root. Is this plan here possible so I won't have to unroot and remove s-off.
1. Flash the hex edited hboot that says "locked" and "s-on"
2. Flash one of the stock roms from either viper or indirect, but remove superuser!
3. Flash a stock recovery
Do you think it'll work?
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the blame root when they dont want to fix your phone
why dont you just run the ruu and go back?
lol
flex360 said:
the blame root when they dont want to fix your phone
why dont you just run the ruu and go back?
lol
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That's the thing... I don't know how. I just figured it'd me easier to go with the 3 points I had. I appreciate you taking time to help Flex
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Most techs only look for the superuser app. Flash a stock rooted Rom. Delete the superuser app. I wouldn't worry about hiding s-off
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XaoSilentrzk said:
Ok guys, the purple tint camera issue is killing me. As always, last I went weeks ago... They blamed root. Is this plan here possible so I won't have to unroot and remove s-off.
1. Flash the hex edited hboot that says "locked" and "s-on"
2. Flash one of the stock roms from either viper or indirect, but remove superuser!
3. Flash a stock recovery
Do you think it'll work?
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I only get it in the dark while taking pics but it is annoying as all hell. I was like wtf when I first noticed that was like 2 months ago never bothered to take it in.
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fr0st420 said:
Most techs only look for the superuser app. Flash a stock rooted Rom. Delete the superuser app. I wouldn't worry about hiding s-off
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I just don't want to bother with going up there and the MF tell me... "Your issue is Root!"
I'm going to take the lazy way and try what you're suggesting tomorrow tho. I hope it works. You think my plan will be better tho?
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You know, it only takes a couple extra minutes to ensure that your device is clean versus having to head back home and run an RUU anyway
Your plan is better I'm just lazy lol.
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fr0st420 said:
Your plan is better I'm just lazy lol.
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Do you mind posting the stock recovery sir?
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Sprint tech here. The techs you're talking to are idiots. Our M&P officially states that we support rooted phones. Worst case scenario, they will have to RUU the phone for you. After they've done that, the issue will still be present and they'll have to order a new one for you. Go back and insist that they do their job. If you need me to, I can try to pull our M&P document tomorrow and send it to you so you can show them.
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Bradart said:
Sprint tech here. The techs you're talking to are idiots. Our M&P officially states that we support rooted phones. Worst case scenario, they will have to RUU the phone for you. After they've done that, the issue will still be present and they'll have to order a new one for you. Go back and insist that they do their job. If you need me to, I can try to pull our M&P document tomorrow and send it to you so you can show them.
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Please do that. It's clear and a known issue, but the asshole tech clearly wanted to be lazy and not do his job
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Seriously?
Bradart said:
Sprint tech here. The techs you're talking to are idiots. Our M&P officially states that we support rooted phones. Worst case scenario, they will have to RUU the phone for you. After they've done that, the issue will still be present and they'll have to order a new one for you. Go back and insist that they do their job. If you need me to, I can try to pull our M&P document tomorrow and send it to you so you can show them.
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I thought that had been Sprint's policy for a long time. But I took my rooted LG in the spring for a problem with the speaker and the first tech 'flagged' my phone in Sprint's system. I even took it back home and set it back to stock. But after it was flagged I was forced to upgrade or replace it though Asurion because nobody would touch it. So you're saying I wasted a perfectly good upgrade?!? WTH?!
How long have your M&P docs stated that you'd work on rooted phones?
Bradart said:
Sprint tech here. The techs you're talking to are idiots. Our M&P officially states that we support rooted phones. Worst case scenario, they will have to RUU the phone for you. After they've done that, the issue will still be present and they'll have to order a new one for you. Go back and insist that they do their job. If you need me to, I can try to pull our M&P document tomorrow and send it to you so you can show them.
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I flashed Indirect stock rooted, flashed stock recovery, and the deleted super user and it worked. They will be sending me a new phone... I'm going to check it thoroughly in store
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fsmith3x said:
I thought that had been Sprint's policy for a long time. But I took my rooted LG in the spring for a problem with the speaker and the first tech 'flagged' my phone in Sprint's system. I even took it back home and set it back to stock. But after it was flagged I was forced to upgrade or replace it though Asurion because nobody would touch it. So you're saying I wasted a perfectly good upgrade?!? WTH?!
How long have your M&P docs stated that you'd work on rooted phones?
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Yeah. Any tech that flags your device as DBR for being rooted is breaking policy and majorly ****ing people over. If root is suspected to be the cause of the problem, the procedure is to flash back to stock and wipe the device then try to replicate the issue. If the issue persists and there's no physical damage, it's a hardware defect and needs to be replaced under TEP/warranty.
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XaoSilentrzk said:
I flashed Indirect stock rooted, flashed stock recovery, and the deleted super user and it worked. They will be sending me a new phone... I'm going to check it thoroughly in store
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My bad. I got busy today and totally forgot to snatch the M&P. Let me see if I can get it really quick before my shift ends just in case something like this comes up in the future.
Also relevant to note here is that there's a good chance your newphone will have the camera issue because, from what I've seen, there's circumstances in which ever One does it. It seems to be related to how hot the phone is. Some phones are worse than others so YMMV.
EDIT: That took all of five seconds. Official whatever thing attached.
Bradart said:
Yeah. Any tech that flags your device as DBR for being rooted is breaking policy and majorly ****ing people over. If root is suspected to be the cause of the problem, the procedure is to flash back to stock and wipe the device then try to replicate the issue. If the issue persists and there's no physical damage, it's a hardware defect and needs to be replaced under TEP/warranty.
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My bad. I got busy today and totally forgot to snatch the M&P. Let me see if I can get it really quick before my shift ends just in case something like this comes up in the future.
Also relevant to note here is that there's a good chance your newphone will have the camera issue because, from what I've seen, there's circumstances in which ever One does it. It seems to be related to how hot the phone is. Some phones are worse than others so YMMV.
EDIT: That took all of five seconds. Official whatever thing attached.
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I downloaded this yesterday.
Before I hand over my s-off baby I'm going to thoroughly test that phone
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Bradart said:
Yeah. Any tech that flags your device as DBR for being rooted is breaking policy and majorly ****ing people over. If root is suspected to be the cause of the problem, the procedure is to flash back to stock and wipe the device then try to replicate the issue. If the issue persists and there's no physical damage, it's a hardware defect and needs to be replaced under TEP/warranty.
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My bad. I got busy today and totally forgot to snatch the M&P. Let me see if I can get it really quick before my shift ends just in case something like this comes up in the future.
Also relevant to note here is that there's a good chance your newphone will have the camera issue because, from what I've seen, there's circumstances in which ever One does it. It seems to be related to how hot the phone is. Some phones are worse than others so YMMV.
EDIT: That took all of five seconds. Official whatever thing attached.
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Totally downloaded this and stored for a rainy day. The last time I had any issues with my phone, the tech completely messed up my homescreen configuration by accepting the sprint homescreen bs thatt I geeky every reboot. Suffice to say, the techs at this store are kinda... Well, I'll call them "slow".
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Can you post a pic of this purple tint? I went in to get mine fixed and I wanna see if it's the same thing. Also I went in with a stock rom and s-off and they didn't give two ****s lol
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Can you post a pic of this purple tint? I went in to get mine fixed and I wanna see if it's the same thing. Also I went in with a stock rom and s-off and they didn't give two ****s lol
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This is the simple demonstration I have them.
I opened my camera app... And just placed the phone camera down imitating low light/night conditions. Screen turned completely pink every time
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XaoSilentrzk said:
This is the simple demonstration I have them.
I opened my camera app... And just placed the phone camera down imitating low light/night conditions. Screen turned completely pink every time
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ohhhhhhh. yeah mine's different than that lol

[Q] Bought a seemingly rooted phone on Swappa and I'm concerned...

OK, I'm going to start by saying I know pretty much nothing about rooting and I may come across as a paranoid conspiracy nut, but here goes.
I recently bought a Note 3 on Swappa. In the description, the seller said that he had removed all of the AT&T Bloatware, but the phone was not rooted. He also stated that a system reset would restore the AT&T apps. Well, the first thing I did was a system restore, but the AT&T apps were still gone. Not that I care about the apps really, but it seemed weird.
Today, I downloaded the "Root Checker" app on the Play Store and it told me that my phone was, in fact, rooted. I also downloaded SuperU and it verified that as well. I've also gotten Titanium Backup (Root) and it shows I'm rooted.
I posted a message on my sale page at Swappa mentioning this, but the seller is adamantly denying that the phone is rooted. He says they use their "own process" to remove the bloatware.
My question in all of this is is this: Is this something I should be concerned about? The seller seems less than honest about the phone being rooted. He is a "trusted seller" which is one reason I bought from him, but I'm super paranoid that there might be something on my phone that I'm unaware of. (a keylogging app, etc...) Is there any way to tell this? How do I go about truly returning my phone back to its original state? I system reset didn't unroot it.
Any advice from people out there much more knowledgeable than me about this?
EDIT: well, I took andygev35's advice and restored back to factory. However, I enjoyed playing around with the things that being rooted allowed, so I re-did it. A huge waste of time? Maybe, but at least I have some peace of mind over the whole thing now. Thanks to everyone!
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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andygev35 said:
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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Thanks, and holy crap - just glancing at that it looks like a total pain in the ass. This is why I never bothered to root in the first place. Do you think I'm being too paranoid? Or is is worth doing all this?
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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andygev35 said:
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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OK. I may do this when I get home. Thanks.
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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mrkhigh said:
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
Why wouldn't anyone want access to the root files in THEIR phone ???
You have root access to your PC or Mac, why would anyone want a provider to lock down their phone making things inaccessible.
You're not renting the phone, it's Yours (always try and have root access if possible).
google up moborobo and download it, its free and gives u full access to your phone, please download it and check it out -
You will love all the stuff you can do with a rooted N3 -
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
Since we now have nc2 Odin files you are relatively safe in doing a restore.
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ThePorter said:
I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
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I too am a former Jailbreaker and am so glad I jumped the fence out of Apple's walled garden. I do have to say, at least Apple readily provides the latest firmware for their devices. I can't understand why AT&T won't let Sammy publish our Odin files. As @mrkhigh stated, we DO now have the Odin files (probably gained in some nefarious manner by a sympathizing Best Buy employee), so now you can safely let the experimenting begin without worry.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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Pretty sure it's a real AT&T - I took it to the store and had them check the IMHO when I had it activated. I finally just uprooted and flashed the 4.4.2 stock on it (I'm learning the terminology here so hope that's right) from the first post.
The guy is a trusted seller and has sold tons of phones in Swappa. He advertises on all the Samsung at&t phones that he removes the bloatware but does NOT root the phone. But, it was.
In the end, I'm happy with the phone. Seller was less than honest about his process and hopefully he didn't steal all my bank info, haha, but the phone works great.
You have to root to remove all bloatware...
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Good to know though. *cheers*
Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Im sure its probably because he sells a lot of devices and didn't realize the one he sold had root.
Then when he talked to u he realized that u r uneducated about the subject so he thought he would bs u.
Of course one would have to have root access to remove root files.
I still don't understand why ur making such a big fuss?
If u don't feel like u lucked out, (like the rest of us do) just send the flipping thing back!
Did you download free moborobo?
Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Yeah, you're right. I looked at it but it seems to be completely unnecessary.
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Excuse me but this is not an unknown app, it has been around for years and works wonderfully !!!
I have been using it since I got my N3 at thanksgiving and it works great, installs downloaded apk files in a snap, allows you easy navigation to your entire phone.Doesn't spam you. It just works great. I'm only recommending it because I have USED it for 9 months, (and you guys can't even google it?)
Since when do mods and forum gurus recommend staying away from something they have never used it, or even spent 10 secs researching ????
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moborobo+review
I was only trying to help OP out. it is a great and FREE app for rooted devices, sorry for wasting ur time OP -
(ps - I found the software while trying to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my 4s to N3, which worked perfectly and easily, (after trying other stuff). It was after that I discovered how nice it manages everything)

Process system is not responding. Do you want to close it? <WAIT> <OK>

Ever since I've had this phone I've been experiencing the error in the title above. I've rooted, tried freezing apps I think might be the problem, and just tonight I unlocked the bootloader, which wipes everything, and was hoping the error would go away. It only happens the first time upon boot. I hit either Wait or OK and it goes away until next boot.
Not a big deal, but curious what's causing it. Just wondering if anyone has this issue.
This is the 16gb Prime version, rooted, debloated, unlocked bootloader.
Cheers!
joesee said:
Ever since I've had this phone I've been experiencing the error in the title above. I've rooted, tried freezing apps I think might be the problem, and just tonight I unlocked the bootloader, which wipes everything, and was hoping the error would go away. It only happens the first time upon boot. I hit either Wait or OK and it goes away until next boot.
Not a big deal, but curious what's causing it. Just wondering if anyone has this issue.
This is the 16gb Prime version, rooted, debloated, unlocked bootloader.
Cheers!
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It's interesting. I just purchased another one for my wife and right out of the box it does the same thing. I guess this is just something that people deal with and don't talk about??
joesee said:
It's interesting. I just purchased another one for my wife and right out of the box it does the same thing. I guess this is just something that people deal with and don't talk about??
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I have had my phone for almost 3 weeks BLU R1 HD Prime version, I get no error messages, system or otherwise. I Have rooted it, unlocked the bootloader and removed the ads.
joesee said:
It's interesting. I just purchased another one for my wife and right out of the box it does the same thing. I guess this is just something that people deal with and don't talk about??
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Check your permissions
joesee said:
It's interesting. I just purchased another one for my wife and right out of the box it does the same thing. I guess this is just something that people deal with and don't talk about??
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Never experienced that issue. That's odd it's occuring on two devices. Who is your carrier, could it possibly be a sim issue??
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Check your permissions
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Which permissions would you be referring to? A fresh reboot after a factory reset does it.
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Never experienced that issue. That's odd it's occuring on two devices. Who is your carrier, could it possibly be a sim issue??
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I thought about that too, but I've tried two different carriers.. T-Mo, and Cricket. Both do it, regardless if one is in one slot or both are in either.
Like I said, it only does it after the first reboot, then I never see it again.
joesee said:
Ever since I've had this phone I've been experiencing the error in the title above. I've rooted, tried freezing apps I think might be the problem, and just tonight I unlocked the bootloader, which wipes everything, and was hoping the error would go away. It only happens the first time upon boot. I hit either Wait or OK and it goes away until next boot.
Not a big deal, but curious what's causing it. Just wondering if anyone has this issue.
This is the 16gb Prime version, rooted, debloated, unlocked bootloader.
Cheers!
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My LG G4 does this sometimes. Just click wait to avoid dropping a system process. It probably represents a random error during boot, but it never seemed to hurt anything enough to justify a full investigation.
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Go to settings, and choose permission authority!
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So are you just posting ramblings for the sake of increasing your post counter, or are you serious with these nonsense suggestions?? WTF is permission authority??!!??
Niki Kidman said:
Go to settings, and choose permission authority!
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haha ... wow....
kal250 said:
So are you just posting ramblings for the sake of increasing your post counter, or are you serious with these nonsense suggestions?? WTF is permission authority??!!??
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My HTC 10 just gave me this system stopped responding error right after rebooting - Now I'm beginning to think it's just a new "feature" in Marshmallow. When I have some extra time, I'd like to see if I can figure out what does this - more for the sake of learning than anything else.

Issues with android pay on stock?

Anyone having issues? I'm stock nougat and used it just last week. I get this error
Google is unable to verify that your device or the software running on it is Android compatible
I restarted and I've removed my card and tried re-adding with no success
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Same thing here. I've tried everything and it won't work. Completely stock, I've even reflashed using the bootloader's factory reset option.
Seems that Google has broken Android Pay on 7.0.0.
GrayBoltWolf said:
Same thing here. I've tried everything and it won't work. Completely stock, I've even reflashed using the bootloader's factory reset option.
Seems that Google has broken Android Pay on 7.0.0.
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Hopefully it's something server side
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If yes, it looks like Android Safetynet gets tripped by just having it unlocked. Many people have claimed their device that previously was able to work with Safetynet apps, now fails (not just Nexus 6s but OnePlus, Honor, HTC....etc).
I believe there are apps that will test your standing with Safetynet.
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If yes, it looks like Android Safetynet gets tripped by just having it unlocked. Many people have claimed their device that previously was able to work with Safetynet apps, now fails (not just Nexus 6s but OnePlus, Honor, HTC....etc).
I believe there are apps that will test your standing with Safetynet.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/587ss9/psa_android_safetynet_now_tripped_by_unlocking/
Doesn't look promising.
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biggiestuff said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/587ss9/psa_android_safetynet_now_tripped_by_unlocking/
Doesn't look promising.
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Yeah. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like a happy outcome for the tinkerers here.
Yep it's official. Bootloader unlock breaks SafetyNet.
Android Pay is completely dead to me now. Nobody in the US accepts it, it is a pain to get working, and I might as well have pulled out my card by the time I fiddle with finding the right spot and getting it to work.
Google has really been pissing me off lately. They just can't get their stuff together and they are rapidly forgetting the real Android fans in a chase after Apple's marketshare.
Did this start working for anyone yet?
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biggiestuff said:
Did this start working for anyone yet?
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It never will unless Google loosens up on the bootloader lock requirement. I seriously doubt they will, as this is the only way they see to guarantee Android Pay is secure. The real issue is future apps embedding a SafetyNet API call when it isn't necessary.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It never will unless Google loosens up on the bootloader lock requirement. I seriously doubt they will, as this is the only way they see to guarantee Android Pay is secure. The real issue is future apps embedding a SafetyNet API call when it isn't necessary.
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I thought i read some comments on Android police saying it's working again. I was able to get a far as picking a card but then it would fail again
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I thought i read some comments on Android police saying it's working again. I was able to get a far as picking a card but then it would fail again
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I haven't seen those comments.

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