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To be on this list it has to be and has to have:
- No Official ROMs {In the wiki}
- No Stock/Shipped ROMs {In the wiki}
- No Carrier ROMs(unless its a cooked ROM for a certain carrier with the carrier branding left on)
- Non Beta/Non testing phase ROMs , we want stable ROMs so people can just come here and flash and be happy
Mods you can help to while I'm offline.
Also, Dev's can you PM me your cooked ROMs release thread or any changes you have made so I can update this thread quickly.
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Thanks for your generous work for the community,
Tito
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BlackStone ROM section updated and ran by the community.
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I have abandoned this project but it should be left open since its a great list.
Cooked Roms
SEE WIKI
see wiki
Lite roms
SEE WIKI
see wiki
Heavy ROMs
SEE WIKI
*A Heavy ROM is a ROM that looks and feels heavier than a cooked ROM, and usually has a lite ROM to go along with it. It usually has 3 times the amount of customization done and some have more applications available on it, it all depends. The term "looks and feels heavier" is in figurative speak. There are no biases to which one you want, its just a simple way to organize. Its like organizing rocks, big ones, small ones, and normal sized rocks. You may like the little ones, someone else may like the big ones, others might like the normal sized ones, its all up to preference.
This Months Top Ten Recommended ROMs
SEE WIKI
see wiki
Do you have latest official ROM from HTC?
WM 6.5 ROMs
SEE WIKI
see wiki
Thanks for creating such usefull wiki page.
I have updated some info on the PDAVIET rom I hope it will be easy for other people to understand. Thanks again.
Happy New year
No problem. All for the community .
please dont forget this roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461357
Hi!
what is exactly a "Media/Feature-Rich ROM" referred into the wiki page?
Just to have one definition, i can only agree that Panosha and Laurentius26 are great ROMs (i used both) but i don't understand which features you are referring to in the webpage. Having one definition could make it easier to choose from.
Hmmm, let me put it this way, roms with extra stuff, tons more things in side.
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Hmmm, let me put it this way, roms with extra stuff, tons more things in side.
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Uhm ,
despite the fact that both are great ROMs, what you say is not true . For example, Dutty's has more features than those ROMs. Do you agree?
In terms of "things inside", I would rather favour an objective comparison table - if you'd have the time! - highlighting, for example UC compliance, IE6, Flash, free RAM, D3D, etc.
Not a big deal actually, but i feel that newcomers could be mislead...anyway, it doesn't matter since those ROMs are both good...
Oh . I have the time, just let me conjure up a little system and the ROM list will be fixed. I don't want to have any biases in my list.
I will probably have a little fix by the end of the day. Its 12:30pm where I'm at, so like around 3pm my time(I have few things I have to do so I will probably have it sooner.)
I will have to word the definition so its not misleading.
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Oh I just thought of this, what I think is great and what someone else thinks is great could be two different things, so I will have an additional list of a "this months greatest ROMs" that way, when there are tons and tons of ROMs people can have a convenient little list of 10 ROMs that people have voted the best for that month. Of course I'm not saying there are only a select few of ROMs that are good and the rest are trash, I'm saying that its like this months recommended ROMs.
Hmmm, anyone want to help me make this list better? I am thinking of having a team so when the big ROM rush comes we can take it on like cake.
Hey guys, ummm after today the list won't get updated for a while, as I won't be near a computer. So bear with me please thanks .
Tito
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A touch of HD {Offline, ROM no longer supported PM Cook for support} [V 2.21] - [WWE]
Puzuccel [V 1.18] - [WWE]
Black Pearl [V 1.1] - [WWE]
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Since today, Black Pearl became [V 1.2] - [WWE]
Happy New Year
Ok, guys I'm back. I have alot more work on the wiki, I thank who ever added the OS version to the list on my charts in the wiki.
Thank you for having added my rom to the list, and thank you for this usefull work
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Thank you for having added my rom to the list, and thank you for this usefull work
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No problem .
Hi all,
I really appreciate the work of all ROM cookers, even if I don't use a ROM from XDA anymore. (I was using some german releases here for quite some time)
I don't know much about ROM cooking, since I'm a SAP and Web-Deveopment guy, but I always asking myself:
Why is ROM cooking not like open source stuff?
Why is everyone/every group cooking it's own little stuff?
Why not working together on few versions to provide a ultimate, stable, bugfree, nice documented and "perfect" ROM?
Newbies are totally overloaded with 1337 ROM releases, which they should take? Where to find help for your decision? Not everyone has the time/KnowHow to try out 5+ ROMs...
There are so many many advantages if they would do so:
+ bugfixes are done only one time, not many times for many different roms
+ bugfixes are always up to date
+ mistakes are not done multiple times
+ more manpower to test/optimize/develop roms (since everyone works together)
+ clean and clear buglist and release history
+ bugtracking (easier for community to post bugs via bugtracker, easier to develop for cookers)
+ better for newbies (a stronger/bigger community is maybe not a bad thing?) - people know what to download (stable/beta/nightly builds releases - maybe light and full ROMs)
+ many many more, maybe even better reasons
And you can still release ROMs weekly and in multiple version (nightly builds, betas, alphas) but you also can make rock solid milestone releases for the community.
My feeling is SOMETIMES (not in all cases!), that cookers try to compete against each other, than working together.
As I said, its just a feeling... nothing personal against anyone.
Of course there are also disadvantages in organizing such a "structure", but in the end if a cooker would stop developing and invest this time into organizing the rest in to a developer group, that would be a benefit everyone. Means, a bit less "development power", but a lot more efficient developing. The big picture counts.
Just wanted to start a discussion about this thing. It is not like I'm totally experienced in this topic.
Because to be honest... much of the work (which is great and I really appreciate) is done multiple multiple times.
And many many ROMs are more or less the same. Different languages and "feature" levels like Light/Full would be sufficient.
It does seem like a good idea. Certainly, it would allow the chefs to develop an amazing Manilla X1 ROM, and a non-Manilla ROM, 6.1 ROM and a 6.5 ROM, light/full versions and other languages quite effectively. However, I'm not sure how much the chefs would like it. It would however, be excellent for the community. Would be interesting to hear the chefs views on this.
rom are developed really fast. too much people, too much organizations will slow down development.
most part of developers has trusted betatester and bug solver, working in small groups. afaik, looking at whole forum productions, this model works pretty well
yes I have the same question
if we all put our knowledge / findings together @ the cheffs share centre thread it would be A high mile achievement
guap said:
rom are developed really fast. too much people, too much organizations will slow down development.
most part of developers has trusted betatester and bug solver, working in small groups. afaik, looking at whole forum productions, this model works pretty well
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I'm not too sure if you can call this situation "well". I would say it "kinda works".
And yes, in the short run, the development is slower, but in the long run the development is faster, because it is more efficient and there is less work which is done multiple times. As I said, it is the big picture you have to see, in the long run this would be much better.
Additionally to that "new" cooks who maybe have a new bugfix and want to release that, they have to do many of the other fixes again to release a new ROM (additionally to that they lack experience and will make "new" bugs).
In a single project, they simply post their fix, and the main developers check and integrate the fix ... done. Next build it is included.
And that's much faster!! And it is double checked for mistakes for more stable releases.
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For the user it is unthinkable to update the ROM every week. There is a need for some "stable"-like ROM for general users.
The level of final release ROMs here are more or less like "Firefox RC" or even "Beta" Versions.
this is not the 1st time someone like u come up with this......loads of ppl had the same request. even i saw atleast a couple of such thread in this x1 thread!!!
but they neva work in most cases.....i only saw one such successful project!!!
That's not a bad idea at all.
I have been active for sometime with XDA equivalent for AVM Fritz modems (ip-phone-forum), together they made a compiler tool (Freetz.org) for all avm fritz modems, users download one tool, launch and select what features they want in their router, and build a new firmware/ROM, and there is a huge forum for support.
well, i don't say to make such a tool (while it will be so interesting to have, at least one per smartphone model)
having a xda organized in the way mentioned, many bugs can be resolved easily.
in the current state, a newbie will have much difficulty to read a 200 page thread about some custom ROM to find that in post 1232 describes the issue he encountered and later has been fixed in post 1325....
i was going to ask about making a sub forum per each custom rom, with threads divided per subjects, so if someone encounter an SMS issue will have to read one thread completely about sms issues rather than a very long one about all issues in that custom rom.....
if something could be done, then it will become much easier for everybody !!!
great idea.
There is one issue though: people have strong personal flavors of ROMs. Some might want a fast and lean ROM while others might want a mighty one.
I guess some kind of sophisticated branching is needed to accommodate these requests
yes, different tastes, but same bugs
I am down on a common knowledge database, willing to share and learn
It would be great indeed to have a common project but all chefs would need to aim to the same release that would take time to come to a common design and implementation.
Hope this can happen though!
Maybe a cooperation of some chefs would help to reach something here.
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And yes, in the short run, the development is slower, but in the long run the development is faster, because it is more efficient and there is less work which is done multiple times. As I said, it is the big picture you have to see, in the long run this would be much better.
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The problem is there is no long run for rom cooking.
Most of us (users or cook) seldom use a single phone longer than a year and we moved to a next device and start everything from the ground up again.
Even you keep the same device for a long time, newer WM build or other components comes very frequently and there's always a tradeoff between "new features" vs "stability". And every cook has their own perference and it natural to see varies roms among cooks. Therefore, it will never have an easy solution for rom user.
For cooks, we could open threads for individual components and work together. I did open a threads for TF3D v2 (landscape), and HD Camera as a project base, and Itje already create a chef discussion thread and I think this model works pretty well for cooks.
agree with jackleung in some points
I've created a Topic for cooking with windows mobile 6.5, too.
Everyone was invited to discuss their bugs and help each other.
But none like it really.
Or none got bugs
Basically what everyone wants is a ROM with PURE Windows Mobile as Microsoft gives it to manufacturers(No HTC, Sonyericsson stuff), cabs/packages of different applications and a program that combines all of them together according to individual needs.
Objective:
To be able to create a ROM on your phone from your favorite chef. Also you will be able to combine differnt packages from different chefs. So you like Chef A ROM but you like Chef B graphics you can combine the two as long as the Chefs break up their packages according to specs of app.
Also you will be able to browse, download and install apps from developers here at XDA, HTCPedia or any other website if they wish to place their Apps here.
Chefs, developers, and any modder can put up their own work on server and will be responsible for maintaining their work on App Store server. It is up to each modder to set price if any. PayPal system will be part of app.
Project Lead Time
V1 beta will be available after all bugs have been found and squashed.
How it will work:
User can create ROM and flash from phone. User can also browse App Store and select what programs, tweaks and themes to include in ROM or add to current ROM installed on phone.
Theoretical scenario
User wants to install new ROM on phone and does not like any of the custom stuff chefs put into ROM. What is user to do?
User downloads and installs Fusion Visual UC on either Windows Mobile Device.
User then runs Fusion Visual UC and selects all settings user prefers and applications. Through activesync Fusion Visual UC will install custom package on SD card of device and install latest Fusion Power ROM.
New ROM will be loaded on phone. At end of Windows Customization, Fusion Visual UC will take over, issue some prompts and then proceed to install all customized user settings.
At end of customization user's device will reboot and user will have totally customized Windows Mobile build as if user cooked the ROM themselves.
All flavors of Manila will be included to allow user to select what version they like to use.
More to come soon!
Funding
This project requires some funding which I can not do on my own, if I could I would so I am hoping to get some help from the community since it will be for everyone to use as end user or developer.
Costs will be:
Friend who is helping me with code. I already gave him my new TP2 as partial payment and would like to give him some payment as we get further a long. Anything is good...
Server equipment - Would like to keep server in house for the launch of App and for a few months after that. So I will need to purchase equipment for server.
Additional Phones - Would be nice to get a phone for myself for testing reasons and one for graphic designer. No big deal, can make do without but would make everything easier.
I am a student and do freelance IT work on the side. I filled up my schedule as much as I can for this week and next to earn some extra cash to carry the burden of cost. Only downside is it takes time away from App.
Thank you in advance if you contribute to this application.
Everyone who contributes will be set up with free exchange account. Also if developers want to charge for their apps I will try to cut a deal with them to allow donators to access their apps for free.
Developers have no charge to use this app nor are they required to share in their profits.
Developer Info
I will soon post instructions how to setup your packages to be recognized on server for App Store.
Things you can create:
ROMs - fully loaded or base ROM
Packages - All sorts of add-ons for your ROMs
Tweaks - any tweaks, can be CAB, Reg or XML file
Themes - create themes and share them on the App Store
Image Files
Images will be placed up here shortly.
Progress
15-09-09 01:19 AM
Cob webs have been cleared.
Flowchart and App design layout all complete.
First line of code is about to be laid out...
21-09-09 18:13
Busy weekend coding away. The base of the ROM creation tool and app store have been laid. Format for developers to place their stuff on server has been finalized. Will not take much work from developer to place their work on server and in App Store.
If any developer (Chef, app developer or modder) would like to get a head start on getting their packages ready feel free to PM me. Once I am 100% sure that the current format for developers is the one we are going with then I will publish instructions.
This will work on any WinMo device but the first device to be fully supported will be the HTC Touch Pro2.
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If I did not mention a feature that you think would work well with new App I am working on please leave input and I will look into it.
Wow does this mean a lot of late nights with Red bull?
SOUNDS AWESOME!!!
I am so there. Count me in dude. Welcome back!
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Wow does this mean a lot of late nights with Red bull?
SOUNDS AWESOME!!!
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Many many many nights and lots of Airzona Green Tea...my fav drink
You can pull it off A. I know you can. We will all be waiting. Take your time so you don't have to stress yourself after release on people complaining about issues.
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You can pull it off A. I know you can. We will all be waiting. Take your time so you don't have to stress yourself after release on people complaining about issues.
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Like there is any question I can not pull it off..
I am teasing...I am not that cocky...just that confident
Hey welcome back At0m. Glad to see you back in action. Pretty interesting concept. So you are making Chefs out of us huh!!
Looking forward...
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Hey welcome back At0m. Glad to see you back in action. Pretty interesting concept. So you are making Chefs out of us huh!!
Looking forward...
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I will be providing a tool for total customization. Isn't that what we are all here for? To make our high end devices look and run how we like?
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I will be providing a tool for total customization. Isn't that what we are all here for? To make our high end devices look and run how we like?
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one rom and user can customize it them self's I think maybe I am dreaming
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one rom and user can customize it them self's I think maybe I am dreaming
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Your dreams are my nightmares
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Updates can be found in Post #3
So.. is this going to be an application that installs app cabs over a base ROM... or a kitchen type setup that recooks a base ROM with the user's preferences ?
Welcome back
Glad to see you back here not because of your fusion or future room but as a friend. we may not know each other but i think, you are still among the elite people that devoted your own time for all the xda community.
WELCOME ....
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So.. is this going to be an application that installs app cabs over a base ROM... or a kitchen type setup that recooks a base ROM with the user's preferences ?
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A crappy chef never shares his secrets or plans for fear they may be stolen.
Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me.
I think it is best we do not cross paths.
hi everybody with good mood
i'm new to this forum, new owner of D2....
is here anybody, who will advice me how to tweak my WM?
- touch3d somehow doesn't offer too much user comfort
- colours are too sad
- there are no shortcuts for favourite contact (i would prefer 9x9 matrix)
- facebook missing
- is there possibility to have actual info about currency trade market? (i can see only stocks)
- etc.
i'm really new and i believe, that many of those features i've written is available, but i don't know how to achieve it..
also, I would appreciate some list of apps, which you prefer to install (which are usefull or/and can make fun)
i've read few contributions from this forum.. but i'm lost
what is ROM? Radio? is it safe to change the ROM?
thanks for any tip in advance..
and please stay in good mood
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hi everybody with good mood
i'm new to this forum, new owner of D2....
is here anybody, who will advice me how to tweak my WM?
- touch3d somehow doesn't offer too much user comfort
- colours are too sad
- there are no shortcuts for favourite contact (i would prefer 9x9 matrix)
- facebook missing
- is there possibility to have actual info about currency trade market? (i can see only stocks)
- etc.
i'm really new and i believe, that many of those features i've written is available, but i don't know how to achieve it..
also, I would appreciate some list of apps, which you prefer to install (which are usefull or/and can make fun)
i've read few contributions from this forum.. but i'm lost
what is ROM? Radio? is it safe to change the ROM?
thanks for any tip in advance..
and please stay in good mood
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..have a look her. There are a lot of roms: dutty, udk, tom with the new htc sense!
Well, let's see what we can do for you.
Firstly there is a rich mine here of information about all your queries and the way to find the answers is to first and foremost use the search function.
I know it can be a chore and easier to just ask in a genera way, but, members get somewhat weary of answering the same questions over and over again.
Read everything you can and then re-read. It really will pay dividends in the long run.
You will become an established knowledgeable member in your own right and earn respect from other members.
Now on to some of your issues.
My TD2 is (was!) T-mobile branded and out of the box it's a pile of s**t!
Having got that out of the way, I have over 9 years experience with wince (yes the core OS is still wince) and over the last 3 years I have come to know that whatever HTC devices are capable off will be attained by the great work of the more senior and knowledgeable members here.
Leave it to the network carriers and it will never happen or if it does it will be way down the line.
So, you will have to look for a stable cooked ROM that will be tweaked to the balls and really show what the TD2 can do. For that you need to know all about flashing and in the correct manner. Learn about SPL and HSPL and the different versions and what they are for. Read other comments and reviews and then try different ROMs with different radio ROMs. The performance will be enhanced and the device will become more usable
ROMs are the OS (operating system) packages that are flashed to the permanent non volatile memory area of the phone. Radio ROMs are the additional packages that are flashed either along with or separate to the main OS ROM. (to do the latter you need to understand HSPL and SPL). They provide the GPS, WiFi and phone funcionality. A good one will improved operational sensitivity.
If you can progress to that level of understanding then all your other queries will be answered by the knowledge accumulated along the way.
If you get to a brick wall with anything by all means ask. There will be someone who can help, but, use the search first!
Welcome aboard.
believe me or not, you helped me more, than you thought..
I just needed to know the correct keywords..
one more time, thank you
I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
In before the abuse.
There are plenty of Windows Mobile 6.5 ROMs out there but unlike desktop operating sytems there are many many different versions.
Even official roms are going to have bugs, all we can do (as Touch HD users that will likely never get an official 6.5 rom) is find an active chefs whose work we like and give feedback on their releases...
...although even then I doubt we can "fully test" them.
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I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
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agree with E Punk... the chefs test as best they can then it's up to us. when i hear "fully tested", i think of a high-level test strategy, detailed test plans (positive/negative tests), unit test, integration test, use case, debug-fix, user-acceptance-test, more debug-fix, etc., etc. that's simply a lot of work... once we get a hold of a ROM, load it, use it and report findings the chefs can review posts to look for consistent errors and those are generally fixed pretty fast. bottom line: if we wanna play, we have to be willing to accept that there will be bugs, behavior quirks or whatever you want to call it. the problem some of us have is knowing when to STOP flashing, lol!!!
i think that a version without major bugs will be out when htc releases official winmo6.5 rom updates for touch diamond2 and touch pro2, as those phones share 99% hardware with our hd
wm6.5 Downloads
Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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With all due respect, I can only assume based on your post count that you are new to the HD, you need to read this forum more. Find the wiki and and read it. I was on this forum for 4 months before I flashed my first rom. Windows 6.5 is not meant for our HDs. A lot of the issues that people are complaining about may or may not affect you. I have no problem with daily use with most of the roms I read and read before and after I flash. I don't expect anyone else to do the dirty work for me but there will always be someone who gets there before me. All these posts are inundated with "does this feature work" or "in the last rom I could do this can this rom do it". I know it is a pain in the backside to flash you phone all time but that is why we are hear. If you are just wanting the perfect rom then you are probably in the wrong place.
I hope this does not come across to hard but I read this forum almost every day. The best advice I can give you is to read then read some more. Or you could end up with an expensive brick.
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Hi all
It is all very well 4 u experts. All these talk about flashing rom and WM6.5. However, no mention of where really this WM6.5 download is, the guy on youtube points to places that do not exist on xda developers site. I open Mary one thing it does not show any of the things he talks about. Also the hard spl he talks about caused me to waste 2 full days trying to restore my phone to its original function. Yes it was grbaged until with pere=severance I figured out a simple download to restore it. Can any one please make simple straight forward steps to find the WM6.5 download?
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had myself a HD for a week, and with the help of XDA wiki flashed it (like about 50 times right now). Just read, and if you need any help just pm me
7896zx said:
I am just wondering if the chefs are going to be making a fully tested windows mobile 6.5 rom anytime? If they will, will there still be bugs in them and especially the lock screen?
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This isn't an attack.
You don't understand the extent to which a cook has control over most bugs (or doesn't). Most of the bugs you see in the ROMs you're looking at are way beyond the cooks control. Remember, they don't have the source code -- they can't fix the software. What they can do is look for updated versions from the developers that might have fixed a problem (but maybe introduce new ones). The biggest control chefs have is over things that can be controlled in the registry: things like visual layou, etc. In addition, some optimization options are available when packaging the ROM, however, I'd advise that you just understand that 6.5 is still an unreleased beta product (even if plans for release have been finalized) at this point.
Your friendly community (volunteer) chefs have done all they can to bring us interesting samples of this upcoming product. The bugs are not a result of lack of testing at all.
Rob
dhatw said:
With all due respect, I can only assume based on your post count that you are new to the HD, you need to read this forum more. Find the wiki and and read it. I was on this forum for 4 months before I flashed my first rom. Windows 6.5 is not meant for our HDs. A lot of the issues that people are complaining about may or may not affect you. I have no problem with daily use with most of the roms I read and read before and after I flash. I don't expect anyone else to do the dirty work for me but there will always be someone who gets there before me. All these posts are inundated with "does this feature work" or "in the last rom I could do this can this rom do it". I know it is a pain in the backside to flash you phone all time but that is why we are hear. If you are just wanting the perfect rom then you are probably in the wrong place.
I hope this does not come across to hard but I read this forum almost every day. The best advice I can give you is to read then read some more. Or you could end up with an expensive brick.
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Judging from how "4" and "u" are not words, and the way this unknown "youtube" guy has given him the impression that he's a representative of xda-dev, I'd say he's new the HD, and somewhat new to life -- maybe 14 or so years old.
Reminds me of the tone that AOL users had when they first came onto the "Internet". They used to angrily demand tech support for the Internet from ops in IRC as if those people worked for some "service" that they were paying for. Oh, those were the days.
Your advice was perfect.
Rob
Slightly going off orginal query topic which has already been answered well in my opinion by both Electronic Punk & cortez.i. Not much else needs to be discussed on that topic
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