I have been wondering, how secure are android roms? What I mean is, if I should be worried about getting personal data stolen or any such thing concerning web surfing, online purchases, etc? Which is more secure? Stock Roms or cusom Roms? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Supermannypr said:
I have been wondering, how secure are android roms? What I mean is, if I should be worried about getting personal data stolen or any such thing concerning web surfing, online purchases, etc? Which is more secure? Stock Roms or cusom Roms? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Grow up mate... :laugh:
There are thousands of user who are enjoying custom roms and still you think it insecure...
erpurohit said:
Grow up mate... :laugh:
There are thousands of user who are enjoying custom roms and still you think it insecure...
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This is a harsh response to what I believe is a very valid question by the original poster. People ask questions because they have concerns or simply do not know the answer. They do not need people like you having a shot at them simply because they asked a question.
To the OP: The people who put together the custom ROMs you find on XDA are mostly genuine people looking to share their knowledge and experience by building ROMs that make our devices operate faster, smoother, and feature enhanced. They are not out to load them with malware to scam you and suck your credit and identity dry.
Having said that however, it could be done if the wrong person or group of people starting building ROMs with that purpose.
I personally will only ever download a ROM from a builder or group of builders who have a credible reputation here in the Forums to be sure.
I hope that eases you mind a little.
Take care.
I didnt meant to be harsh... Sry if it feel so...
Thankyou.
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This is a harsh response to what I believe is a very valid question by the original poster. People ask questions because they have concerns or simply do not know the answer. They do not need people like you having a shot at them simply because they asked a question.
To the OP: The people who put together the custom ROMs you find on XDA are mostly genuine people looking to share their knowledge and experience by building ROMs that make our devices operate faster, smoother, and feature enhanced. They are not out to load them with malware to scam you and suck your credit and identity dry.
Having said that however, it could be done if the wrong person or group of people starting building ROMs with that purpose.
I personally will only ever download a ROM from a builder or group of builders who have a credible reputation here in the Forums to be sure.
I hope that eases you mind a little.
Take care.
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I have always had that question. I have to agree on only installing roms from devs with a credible reputation, at the end of the day this is what I would use for everything and I need to feel ane be sure I am secure. Thanks for your answere, I can keep my peace in that aspect.
Thanks to all the devs that dedicate there time with their amazing Rom projects!! Keep up the great work!!!
Allmost every "custom" roms include a rooted kernel and CWM recovery. That will give anyone who can do "adb" operations the option to reboot your phone to recovery. Sim,pattern or pin lock doesn't matter as long as phone is in their hand.
Battery off - reboot to CWM, connect usb, and everything on your phone is available to copy to computer using adb commands.
The only way to secure custom ROM run by a rooted kernel with CWM is to ENCRYPT all files on your phone.
As a ROM Maker, I always care about every permissions for every single file. I everytime match everything true permissions but not 777 even if I fail 999 times.
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Think about this. Someone finds your phone, you had lost it. Turns off pulls out sim so you can't find its location, reboots into recovery, connects to computer, then adb shell and do the command dd /data. Dumps all the data into a .IMG file. Repacks it into an Odin flash able tar. Flashes to his phone. Has all your info.
I wouldn't worry though, most people know nothing of this. I don't worry
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O-T and AlwaysDroid, you guys are absolutely right, but the OP still raises a legitimate concern. There's lots of other threat assessments that will rule out physical access. It's a matter of practicality. In some places, traditional martial arts self-defense training can help or save you, in others most clashes do not involve hand-to-hand fighting.
I'm typing on xda app, do forgive Mr for forgetting names, but others here are right, too. A developer's reputation goes a long way, and these teams also put their code out for others to see. I can't tell what's inside, but rely on the fact that others look at it to learn, compile themselves, cherry pick, etc. Also, I do prefer when devs post MD5s.
Back to OP, which primarily asked about data leakage, is there an android equivalent of Little Snitch on Macs?
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Yes they are
use basic custom roms if u wish. . which r stable..
dont prefer nightlies/ alpha if u r a starter
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burakgon said:
As a ROM Maker, I always care about every permissions for every single file. I everytime match everything true permissions but not 777 even if I fail 999 times.
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Nobody like frequent force closes.. do they ?
AlwaysDroid said:
Think about this. Someone finds your phone, you had lost it. Turns off pulls out sim so you can't find its location, reboots into recovery, connects to computer, then adb shell and do the command dd /data. Dumps all the data into a .IMG file. Repacks it into an Odin flash able tar. Flashes to his phone. Has all your info.
I wouldn't worry though, most people know nothing of this. I don't worry
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Wow! I had no idea that someone could do that... I know that this has a very slim chance of happening, but is there anyway to avoid it?
Yes, they are.
since the source is open to all
and anyone could examine it
i would say they are somewhat secure
Supermannypr said:
Wow! I had no idea that someone could do that... I know that this has a very slim chance of happening, but is there anyway to avoid it?
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Not really :/ almost no one can do this, I mean unless the guy that finds your phone is a resident here or at roots wiki and even then, I doubt it. The thing is, as long as your rooted, your data just isn't as safe. You couldn't do that on stock, cause its not rooted. The only thing I could imagine for the future would be a recovery that asks for a pin code before allowing you to enter. Its unavoidable, and really nothing to worry about. Just turn off USB debugging when not in use, use dev options to only give apps root access and not adb (not sure if it stops it in recovery as well) and don't lose your phone.
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Apropos encryption
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Allmost every "custom" roms include a rooted kernel and CWM recovery. That will give anyone who can do "adb" operations the option to reboot your phone to recovery. Sim,pattern or pin lock doesn't matter as long as phone is in their hand.
Battery off - reboot to CWM, connect usb, and everything on your phone is available to copy to computer using adb commands.
The only way to secure custom ROM run by a rooted kernel with CWM is to ENCRYPT all files on your phone.
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Is there a way to enable file system encryption in Cyanogenmod 7?
AW: Are Custom Roms secure?
de333 said:
Is there a way to enable file system encryption in Cyanogenmod 7?
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System encryption is a 4.1 feature; not with cm 7
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Well, Samsung stopped updating this capable phone which is similar to the nexus s(they claimed it can't handle ICS or jb while nexus s gets the latest firmware) Custom ROMs especially jb ROMs make your phone feel new unlike stock which are outdated. Just flash one from a credible developer & u won't regret
There is no motive from the developers. What should they get? Your FB passwords? And sell them to your girlfriend?
Agree
Supermannypr said:
I have always had that question. I have to agree on only installing roms from devs with a credible reputation, at the end of the day this is what I would use for everything and I need to feel ane be sure I am secure. Thanks for your answere, I can keep my peace in that aspect.
Thanks to all the devs that dedicate there time with their amazing Rom projects!! Keep up the great work!!!
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I am 100% agree, with the your comment bro. We should install the ROM from recognized and good reputed developers.
:good::good::good::good:
Eirwn said:
There is no motive from the developers. What should they get? Your FB passwords? And sell them to your girlfriend?
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Really? So if there was - just for the sake of argument - a backdoor or a keylogger on your phone that was placed there by a dev, you're saying they would get nothing out of that? Is a bit naive dont you think?
Related
Here is the CM6 system built last night by me. Go ahead and do whatever you want with it. This is for those having issues building. Here it is
www.justanotherdev.slackdev.com/froyo.tgz
This is not a ready to flash ROM but just the system folder from the CM6 build for people to play with.
This is for devs looking to play with CM6 which was compiled for the vibrant and not just a generic build. This is NOT A READY TO FLASH ROM. I just built went to sleep and threw this up for people.
Enjoy!
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can we flash this through odin? pda?
skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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This is not a ready to flash ROM but just the system folder from the CM6 build
Honestly...
skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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maybe you shouldnt flash anything cause it seems you dont read thoroughly enough... one day youll miss a step and brick your phone lol
nice! , im gonna mess a bit with it.
DO IT SKATER! lol
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DO IT SKATER! lol
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lol you should specify which one
The CyanogenMod Wiki Full Update Guide for the Samsung Vibrant
The CyanogenMod wiki has the instructions for the Full CM6 update. I am unable to post the link since I am a new member! I haven't flashed the ROM since I just got my phone last night.
skater4690 said:
lol you should specify which one
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LOL
10 char
skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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I couldn't help but smile at that.
skater991 said:
can we flash this through odin? pda?
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Use odin, you'll love the results
just flashed through cw, runs pretty smooth but needs work...
lol jk
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just flashed through cw, runs pretty smooth but needs work...
lol jk
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Nice attempt at hiding that "lol jk"
chad658eku said:
The CyanogenMod wiki has the instructions for the Full CM6 update. I am unable to post the link since I am a new member! I haven't flashed the ROM since I just got my phone last night.
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Where was that indicated? There are only two how-tos on the Wiki for CM6 of relevance for Galaxy S/Vibrant: building the CM6 kernel from source, and updating the Galaxy S/Vibrant to CM6. However, the "Full Update Guide" includes the following caveat: NOTE: As of right now CyanogenMod is not available for the Samsung Vibrant.
There are no full instructions on the wiki for building CM6, nor for truly updating a Vibrant since CM6 has not been built for the Vibrant. You will also not find even an alpha release, nor any nightlies.
For those who don't understand why this is the case, or why flashing a ROM through Odin is different than through the recovery console, it's probably best to wait until there is a "one-click" for you ...
so many people are going to download this without realizing that this is for development only and not even for use yet
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so many people are going to download this without realizing that this is for development only and not even for use yet
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I agree but the OP seemed to be clear about it's intended use so it's buyer beware I feel...
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For those who don't understand why this is the case, or why flashing a ROM through Odin is different than through the recovery console, it's probably best to wait until there is a "one-click" for you ...
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I semi understand that stuff but know my limits... But a huge THANKS!!! to those who do!!!
Patiently waiting for "one-click"....
Sorry if you took that as a genuine offer of advice, but it was meant as a sarcastic retort. People who don't understand what is technically involved in "rooting", what it means to "mount" a device or where the line between Linux and Android lays really have no basis in asking for aid when things go awry. (Sorry if I offend you, but seriously, you're asking for help in a development thread without knowing about which what you're actually asking for help? Really? Seriously?!)
No one has created a reliable method to fully supplant the Vibrant's recovery console, the OTA package that is normally used to flashed Android devices cannot be properly compiled and packaged for the Vibrant, users are still having issues building an AOSP directory structure—let alone a truly usable boot.img—and a complete system replacement is expected?! It really is no wonder why those really building apps and systems for various Android platforms avoid XDA, and leave it to those merely "cooking" as was previously the standard with WinMo.
(When is the interrobang going to be finally accepted as a true form of punctuation?! Really?!)
nice work, seems like a lot of devs are finally on this
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Sorry if you took that as a genuine offer of advice, but it was meant as a sarcastic retort. People who don't understand what is technically involved in "rooting", what it means to "mount" a device or where the line between Linux and Android lays really have no basis in asking for aid when things go awry. (Sorry if I offend you, but seriously, you're asking for help in a development thread without knowing about which what you're actually asking for help? Really? Seriously?!)
No one has created a reliable method to fully supplant the Vibrant's recovery console, the OTA package that is normally used to flashed Android devices cannot be properly compiled and packaged for the Vibrant, users are still having issues building an AOSP directory structure—let alone a truly usable boot.img—and a complete system replacement is expected?! It really is no wonder why those really building apps and systems for various Android platforms avoid XDA, and leave it to those merely "cooking" as was previously the standard with WinMo.
(When is the interrobang going to be finally accepted as a true form of punctuation?! Really?!)
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People don't stay away from XDA because of the sometimes foolish questions people ask. They stay away because of the way they get treated by pompous d*cks like you that have no tolerance for people trying to learn and enjoy their devices more.
Everyone starts out without a clue and without help from others we'd all still be drooling on ourselves and sh*tting in our diapers.
Grow up and help out... or just go away.
Hi this is my first post. Im really sorry if Im posting this again and if I am just tell me to delete it and point me to the correct one.
So i want to install the Cyanogen mod 7.1 that was released yesterday onto my HTC incredible s. however since i have only just had it around a month i know very little about android rooting and how to do it.
My question is what guide should i use? is this the cyanogen mod good. i cna tpost it here it wouldnt let me.
if so i know doing so will void my warrenty and so is it like jailbreaking where all you have to do is restore to stock firmware?
Update: installed using this http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_Full_Update_Guide
worked like a charm
thank you very much.
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Hi this is my first post. Im really sorry if Im posting this again and if I am just tell me to delete it and point me to the correct one.
So i want to install the Cyanogen mod 7.1 that was released yesterday onto my HTC incredible s. however since i have only just had it around a month i know very little about android rooting and how to do it.
My question is what guide should i use? is this the cyanogen mod good. i cna tpost it here it wouldnt let me.
if so i know doing so will void my warrenty and so is it like jailbreaking where all you have to do is restore to stock firmware?
thank you very much.
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welcome to the forum. just remember, this forum is chock full of great info. when you have a question, more often then not your question has already been asked. always use the search button first to reduce clutter
this phone is one of the easiest phones to root. just head here. voila. that's it.
yes, cm7 is THAT good. definitely worth it. fast and prob the best battery life out of all the roms.
you can always get the phone back to it's original state for warranty purposes. always a good idea to do a backup immediately after you root.
have fun.
ok thank you very much. Does the guide on the CyanogenMod website include how to restore to stock if you have to send your phone in?
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ok thank you very much. Does the guide on the CyanogenMod website include how to restore to stock if you have to send your phone in?
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i don't think so. that info is, however, readily available in this forum. just do a search
come to think of it, i think all you have to do is revert to the stock rom that you just backed up after rooting. someone please correct me if i'm wrong.
Does anyone also know if the root method for the HTC incredible S is temp? Does that mean you cant turn off your device? I'm confused.
incrediblealex said:
Does anyone also know if the root method for the HTC incredible S is temp? Does that mean you cant turn off your device? I'm confused.
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no, it's not temporary. it will stay rooted until you unroot and return the device to stock/original state. why don't you try it out? it will be a good way to familiarize yourself with rooting, backing up, and restoring.
Hearing of the release of CM7 got me finally around of rooting my phone. This forum offers great tutorials and I managed to root is fairly easily. After rooting I was also asked wheter I wanted to flash CWM and I answered yes. Everything went OK and I was able to try CM7 after 30 minutes or so. The most time consuming operation was creating backup with CWM recovery.
But my opinion about CM7 isn't good. While I like the the effects and other neat customisation possibilities 3 thing turn me off.
First, I really love HTC's phone or dialler application which helps me find contacts by entering their number or trying to type their names. This is the single most useful thing invented on a telephone. As CM7 doesn't support that (only enterning numbers as far as I know) I will not use it.
Second, I wasn't able to connect to Exchange server for some reason
Third, Android Market shut itself down after 10 seconds and repeatedly kept doing that.
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PS. I would have liked to post this info to developers forums, but as I don't have rights, I couldn't.
I'm no noob to forums - I'm a veteran member of Estonia's leading IT forum of Hinnavaatlus.
weaselEST said:
Hearing of the release of CM7 got me finally around of rooting my phone. This forum offers great tutorials and I managed to root is fairly easily. After rooting I was also asked wheter I wanted to flash CWM and I answered yes. Everything went OK and I was able to try CM7 after 30 minutes or so. The most time consuming operation was creating backup with CWM recovery.
But my opinion about CM7 isn't good. While I like the the effects and other neat customisation possibilities 3 thing turn me off.
First, I really love HTC's phone or dialler application which helps me find contacts by entering their number or trying to type their names. This is the single most useful thing invented on a telephone. As CM7 doesn't support that (only enterning numbers as far as I know) I will not use it.
Second, I wasn't able to connect to Exchange server for some reason
Third, Android Market shut itself down after 10 seconds and repeatedly kept doing that.
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PS. I would have liked to post this info to developers forums, but as I don't have rights, I couldn't.
I'm no noob to forums - I'm a veteran member of Estonia's leading IT forum of Hinnavaatlus.
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The markets fixed by going in to language settings and selecting English again.
Exchange worked fine for me...
Download another dialer application..
I'd choose double the speed, battery life and ram any day over sense
lets not start cm7 vs sense. this thread will never end really, it comes down to individual preference and that's not something we can argue.
cm7 isn't prefect but it's close, imo.
Please recommend a dialer app and I will give it a try Dialer One maybe?
Thanks for the market tip.
weaselEST said:
Please recommend a dialer app and I will give it a try
Thanks for the market tip.
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try dialer one. it has the function you are looking for.
weaselEST said:
Please recommend a dialer app and I will give it a try
Thanks for the market tip.
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Dialer one, go contacts and touchpal dialer are all good.
syc7090 said:
no, it's not temporary. it will stay rooted until you unroot and return the device to stock/original state. why don't you try it out? it will be a good way to familiarize yourself with rooting, backing up, and restoring.
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Thanks again I'm going to try it out and report back on how I got on.
incrediblealex said:
Thanks again I'm going to try it out and report back on how I got on.
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sounds good. and there are guides in the dev forum if you need some assurance.
Cannot download anything from the Market for unknown reason. The download bar just scrolls endlessly.
E: Restart helped. Everything seems to be working just fine. Will give an estimate of battery usage in a few days time. And will test out Skype as well.
I feel as though the guides here need to be updated current one is from June. Not complaining just sayin is all.
itsbeertimenow said:
I feel as though the guides here need to be updated current one is from June. Not complaining just sayin is all.
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Yes, they could use some tweaking.
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Unable to sign in to Skype. Forums aren't very helpful too.
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Yes, they could use some tweaking.
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Unable to sign in to Skype. Forums aren't very helpful too.
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Yeah I think they need updating. From what I can work out the root for the HTC IS is not temp but the guide says it is?
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Yeah I think they need updating. From what I can work out the root for the HTC IS is not temp but the guide says it is?
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What do you mean exactly? After restarting my phone is still S-OFF (if you asked that).
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What do you mean exactly? After restarting my phone is still S-OFF (if you asked that).
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Well I think the HTC incredible S was a temp root but from what I can work out and what you have and others have said it is not. I haven't tried it yet but I'm going to tonight.
Hi guys, one of my friends have been installing ICS 4.1.1 on his GT-N7000. i wanted to know what is needed to do this, how can i find this rom and i wanna know isn't there any problem to do this ???
i appreciate any help and explanation, tnx 4 your time
grunge.boy, please do not double post. You have already asked this question in the [FAQ] HELP THREAD - Noob Friendly thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30446034&postcount=503
grunge.boy said:
Hi guys, one of my friends have been installing ICS 4.1.1 on his GT-N7000. i wanted to know what is needed to do this, how can i find this rom and i wanna know isn't there any problem to do this ???
i appreciate any help and explanation, tnx 4 your time
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I'm afraid you won't be able to flash that rom to your device for some reasons..
1. That rom does not exist
2. Yo gotta read hell a lot before even thinking of flashing a device unless you want to instabrick your device
Have a nice day
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msedek said:
I'm afraid you won't be able to flash that rom to your device for some reasons..
1. That rom does not exist
2. Yo gotta read hell a lot before even thinking of flashing a device unless you want to instabrick your device
Have a nice day
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I think he may be referring to CM10 from this link -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796217
letters_to_cleo said:
I think he may be referring to CM10 from this link -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796217
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Someone who is calling the 4.1.1 ICS, as said above he has to read a lot. Betting he will repost tomorrow plz help my note is stuck on flashing Samsung logo, hope not but. ............ Cya tomorrow
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Braxos said:
Someone who is calling the 4.1.1 ICS, as said above he has to read a lot. Betting he will repost tomorrow plz help my note is stuck on flashing Samsung logo, hope not but. ............ Cya tomorrow
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you don't need to undermine people's capabilities if then can flash or if they will brick their Note.
The fact that the thread is there posted with instructions on it means they know the risk and the consequences behind it. If you say they get their Note brick... then so be it. XDA is a brain pool of helpful people willing to help in anyway they can an to those individuals who presents their problems here.
That's the beauty of having a wonderful community like XDA... People helps if your willing to be helped. And besides, any custom and seasoned flashers out there would know... you can make any much sweeter in flashing and seeing a wonderful custom ROM running on your phone without taking the RISK itself. I'm sure most season devs/flashers have brick their Note at some point in their lifetime.
That's the risk in life. You can't succeed in savoring your achievements... if at some point you don't learn your mistakes and the risks behind it.
Good thing we have quite a helpful bunch of guys here willing to shell out their time in giving expertise to Noobs and members alike.
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you don't need to undermine people's capabilities if then can flash or if they will brick their Note.
The fact that the thread is there posted with instructions on it means they know the risk and the consequences behind it. If you say they get their Note brick... then so be it. XDA is a brain pool of helpful people willing to help in anyway they can an to those individuals who presents their problems here.
That's the beauty of having a wonderful community like XDA... People helps if your willing to be helped. And besides, any custom and seasoned flashers out there would know... you can make any much sweeter in flashing and seeing a wonderful custom ROM running on your phone without taking the RISK itself. I'm sure most season devs/flashers have brick their Note at some point in their lifetime.
That's the risk in life. You can't succeed in savoring your achievements... if at some point you don't learn your mistakes and the risks behind it.
Good thing we have quite a helpful bunch of guys here willing to shell out their time in giving expertise to Noobs and members alike.
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The problem, as I understand it is that people think flashing is like installing windows and adding software to it, if something goes wrong I will reinstall OS and all will be fine. Do think more then 20% knows that they can make their phone illegal without known it? Flashing and you get a corrupted efs GG then you will never know it if the flash goes well and you will not need to look up your imei! A fast example for how people can get them in trouble.
Many guides if not all are so explained that they think you know basics or leading to other posts saying do that method without informing right, thinking the other post explains everything fine because some steps are so said as everyone knows. If you have a friend who doesn't know **** about flashing let him read CM10 flashing guide and then let him flash your note, or at least to tell you what he could do step by step. Don't get me wrong it isn't only this guide but everyone because they are write for people who know some methods, so methods that are known are not listed or just get a mentioning as a simple word even a misleading one. Example they say restart the phone to recovery and not boot the phone to cwm recovery mode and then flash or wipe or whatever.
You see that there are some things that are misleading. I lost on my old ace the imei from just flashing stock roms from dbt to the Netherlands one and changing csc with *#272*imei# or something like this code cab to search now.
Sorry I could continue posting over and over other issues but atm at work and multitasking with the note to search find repost anything goes on my nerves.
Hope I got gave you a idea why I was/ I am against helping people that not even trying to read something about the thematic they are looking.
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Braxos said:
The problem, as I understand it is that people think flashing is like installing windows and adding software to it, if something goes wrong I will reinstall OS and all will be fine. Do think more then 20% knows that they can make their phone illegal without known it? Flashing and you get a corrupted efs GG then you will never know it if the flash goes well and you will not need to look up your imei! A fast example for how people can get them in trouble.
Many guides if not all are so explained that they think you know basics or leading to other posts saying do that method without informing right, thinking the other post explains everything fine because some steps are so said as everyone knows. If you have a friend who doesn't know **** about flashing let him read CM10 flashing guide and then let him flash your note, or at least to tell you what he could do step by step. Don't get me wrong it isn't only this guide but everyone because they are write for people who know some methods, so methods that are known are not listed or just get a mentioning as a simple word even a misleading one. Example they say restart the phone to recovery and not boot the phone to cwm recovery mode and then flash or wipe or whatever.
You see that there are some things that are misleading. I lost on my old ace the imei from just flashing stock roms from dbt to the Netherlands one and changing csc with *#272*imei# or something like this code cab to search now.
Sorry I could continue posting over and over other issues but atm at work and multitasking with the note to search find repost anything goes on my nerves.
Hope I got gave you a idea why I was/ I am against helping people that not even trying to read something about the thematic they are looking.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
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I understand what your driving at. BUT, you have to give leeway and freedom to individuals to choose and experience for themselves failures in order for them NOT to commit it again.
Sure there are a lot of misleading informations circulating around, but with proper guidance from some forerunners here, I'm sure those people having problems with can be helped not to commit the same mistakes again in the future right? You yourself have made some flaws before, but where does it lead you now? you become more wary and careful already not to make the same mistakes you've done before, right?
That is why there is a Q&A thread here... for people to ask and for people to give advice to those who are in dire need of helping.
Though I agree some people are just so stubborn to read but hey, at least we who knows better can give an angelic help to those who are trigger-flashers so that they may in turn learn from their mistakes in the future and at the same time, give their assistance to those other noobs... so pretty much it's a vicious cycle over and over again... but hey, I'm glad I am able to part my assistance to those who needs it. At the end of the day, I can sleep with a smile knowing that I have help some poor fellow irregardless where and who he might be in this world.
Scoured all the D4 forums for a forum like this but could not find anything. I have come to find that since Motorola was taken over or purchased by Google that the bootloaders of Motorola devices are beginning to get unlock codes to unlock the bootloaders. Has anybody had any success using fastboot on their D4 to get the device ID from it? I personally have tried this with my D4 and it was unsucessful. I have posted the site for the info as to how to unlock bootloaders, unfortunately not all devices will be able to be unlocked though. I also was wondering if any devs are looking into Jellybean for our D4's or CyanogenMod 10 releases for it? I know there are unofficial CyanogenMod 10 releases for the Droid Razr already but havent seen much else yet. Any help towards these future developments would be greatly appreciated and I figured that this thread should probably be put into the Droid 4 Android Development Section as it is a Dev subject. If anybody thinks this thread should be posted elsewhere please let me know. Thanks!
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Here was an example of how to find your device ID:
DEVICE ID AND UNLOCK KEY
To unlock your device, you need to retrieve your device ID and obtain an unlock code.
I. Retrieving your device ID
Put your device in fastboot mode (Power+Vol Down) and connect over USB
Open a command prompt or Terminal session
Go to the Directory where you installed the Android SDK tools, and type: $ fastboot oem get_unlock_data This fastboot command will return a character string. This is the Device ID which you will be using to generate your unique unlock key. $ fastboot oem get_unlock_data
(bootloader) 0A40040192024205#4C4D3556313230
(bootloader) 30373731363031303332323239#BD00
(bootloader) 8A672BA4746C2CE02328A2AC0C39F95
(bootloader) 1A3E5#1F53280002000000000000000
(bootloader) 0000000
OKAY
[0.297s]
To generate your unlock code, you’ll need to paste together the 5 lines of output into one contnuous string without "(bootloader)" or white spaces.. Using the example above, the line you’d send us would be:0A40040192024205#4C4D355631323030373731363031303332323239#BD008A672BA4746C2CE02328A2AC0C39F951A3E5#1F532800020000000000000000000000
list of supported devices:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
I stand corrected
Thanks for that,I missed that one and understand it better now. Would also like some insight into Jellybean or CM10 for our devices from anybody!
olegfusion said:
list of supported devices:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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andy_lowe02 said:
Thanks for that,I missed that one and understand it better now. Would also like some insight into Jellybean or CM10 for our devices from anybody!
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So you want to unlock the bootloader to have CM10? You don't need to unlock the bootloader... Root it, install Safestrap, select "Install Recovery" inside Safestrap, reboot, open Safestrap, switch to safe mode and then flash your CM10.. Download of CM10:
http://dl.hash-of-codes.com/ROMs/maserati/
After that don't forget to flash the Google Apps (http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20120726-signed.zip)
But please note - this is an early alpha preview. It may have huge bugs. At the moment the keys for menu/back/home/search are not working.
Any Jellybean for our D4's?
Negative,I was simply wondering if we would be able to unlock the bootloaders of our D4's. I dont want to try CM10 yet because I've only seen copies of it for the Razr. I know about safestrap and all that and how to flash ROM's,I was just wondering if and when we can expect to see some work being done on CM10 and or Jellybean for our D4's.
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So you want to unlock the bootloader to have CM10? You don't need to unlock the bootloader... Root it, install Safestrap, select "Install Recovery" inside Safestrap, reboot, open Safestrap, switch to safe mode and then flash your CM10.. Download of CM10:
http://dl.hash-of-codes.com/ROMs/maserati/
After that don't forget to flash the Google Apps (http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20120726-signed.zip)
But please note - this is an early alpha preview. It may have huge bugs. At the moment the keys for menu/back/home/search are not working.
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It IS for our phones... its not simply a copy... it wouldnt boot, the developer who manages the razr/droid 4/bionic builds actually uses the Droid 4 as his primary phone so we get, equal if not more love from him....
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Thank You!
Thank You. I was just made aware of the D4 JB leaks today and was hoping we would see a forum come about for JB builds and leaks or maybe a DEV could post it in this forum, I definitely wouldnt mind if a DEV posted some leaks or builds here in this forum. Any DEV's feel free to post your build info in this forum!! Thanks for all the comments and help from everybody and I look forward to the future of JB on the D4.
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It IS for our phones... its not simply a copy... it wouldnt boot, the developer who manages the razr/droid 4/bionic builds actually uses the Droid 4 as his primary phone so we get, equal if not more love from him....
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Yeah hash is like me. He can't stand typing on a touchscreen.
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Yeah hash is like me. He can't stand typing on a touchscreen.
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Nor can I. Horrible experience to go back to once you've become used to the tactile keys.
While my GB experience is fine on D4, I'm hoping that ICS or JB will clear up a few issues with my phone. Hopefully a sound method for moving to the next version while remaining rooted will come along. I'm so sick of switching to 3G from 4G only to have to dial out to a number in order to get internet connectivity.
My only concern would be the loss of tethering, which I've gotten into the habit of using as my home internet.
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Nor can I. Horrible experience to go back to once you've become used to the tactile keys.
While my GB experience is fine on D4, I'm hoping that ICS or JB will clear up a few issues with my phone. Hopefully a sound method for moving to the next version while remaining rooted will come along. I'm so sick of switching to 3G from 4G only to have to dial out to a number in order to get internet connectivity.
My only concern would be the loss of tethering, which I've gotten into the habit of using as my home internet.
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I've never had issues going from 3g to 4g. Now 1x to anywhere ugh. The trick is to make data connections stop, then it will go back up.
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list of supported devices:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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Doubt it will do any good but I've been going to the page every few days and clicking "no" on the link at the bottom of the page asking if the info was helpful. Then I leave feedback comments like "unlock the DROID 4" or "Unlock all your phones, quit disrespecting your customers like this"
Won't likely do any good but can't hurt either. Maybe if they get enough feedback like that the program will expand, show them there is a serious demand for the program.
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Doubt it will do any good but I've been going to the page every few days and clicking "no" on the link at the bottom of the page asking if the info was helpful. Then I leave feedback comments like "unlock the DROID 4" or "Unlock all your phones, quit disrespecting your customers like this"
Won't likely do any good but can't hurt either. Maybe if they get enough feedback like that the program will expand, show them there is a serious demand for the program.
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I did the same thing when I checked out the page haha... here's hoping it works
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Doubt it will do any good but I've been going to the page every few days and clicking "no" on the link at the bottom of the page asking if the info was helpful. Then I leave feedback comments like "unlock the DROID 4" or "Unlock all your phones, quit disrespecting your customers like this"
Won't likely do any good but can't hurt either. Maybe if they get enough feedback like that the program will expand, show them there is a serious demand for the program.
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nice idea. let's spam them.
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nice idea. let's spam them.
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That's I said I leave different comments. I try to change it up a little every time I send it so it doesn't look like one person just spamming the system.
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That's I said I leave different comments. I try to change it up a little every time I send it so it doesn't look like one person just spamming the system.
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Sure, that is right
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I just left a message as well. Anything is better than nothing at this point. In my opinion, phones like the DROID4 are flagship devices that deserve the same treatment as the RAZR line.
haha, as much as I wish pestering them about unlocking a device such as ours would work, I dont think it will :'( but i still love how well my device runs on Eclipse
Ill have to go leave some comments for the fine people at Motorola or is it google now lol... Hopefully they will get the hint.Now just waiting for my D4 to get back from Beigephone in Texas. They flashed it to Page Plus for me. Got a nice D4 with some yummy ICS on a $55 a month plan. No contracts for me , sorry Verizon!
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only other phone I had was the D1..can't stand not having hard keys...anyways I am currently running the ics OTA update after using the gb tool to flash back the original files so I could receive it. I updated by going to settings and it updated automaticly then I rooted. I am hesitant to try different roms because I have to install safestrap, then install a second system. will unlocking the bootloader make it so we just install clockwork recovery and be able to simply back up our system with nandroid then flash our roms via update.zip like the good-old days? I would like that very much!
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only other phone I had was the D1..can't stand not having hard keys...anyways I am currently running the ics OTA update after using the gb tool to flash back the original files so I could receive it. I updated by going to settings and it updated automaticly then I rooted. I am hesitant to try different roms because I have to install safestrap, then install a second system. will unlocking the bootloader make it so we just install clockwork recovery and be able to simply back up our system with nandroid then flash our roms via update.zip like the good-old days? I would like that very much!
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i heard razr bootstrap works like this on the d4
I'm wondering what the process for the Pixel devices is, and if anyone has had any success with existing tools/SuperSU.
It's running 7.1 if that's relevant.
sturmeh said:
I'm wondering what the process for the Pixel devices is, and if anyone has had any success with existing tools/SuperSU.
It's running 7.1 if that's relevant.
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The same way you root other phones, flash custom recovery and supersu.
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The same way you root other phones, flash custom recovery and supersu.
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I guess I have to wait for custom recoveries that support this phone then? I can't see a build for TWRP that supports sailfish.
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I guess I have to wait for custom recoveries that support this phone then? I can't see a build for TWRP that supports sailfish.
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You'll first need to unlock the bootloader and then wait for chainfire's magic. It is possible to root through fastboot also so there is a good chance that you'll get root before a custom recovery.
Due to seamless updates, things have changed a bit so it'll take some time to be figured out
eatsleep said:
You'll first need to unlock the bootloader and then wait for chainfire's magic. It is possible to root through fastboot also so there is a good chance that you'll get root before a custom recovery.
Due to seamless updates, things have changed a bit so it'll take some time to be figured out
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Buy it directly from Google and the bootloader won't be locked, only if you buy it through a carrier like Verizon will the bootloader be locked
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This is the first device with Android's new partition layout. Having looked at the firmwares and at running devices (remotely), I have some ideas on how to do it.
However, it will be a while before I have SuperSU fixed up. The changes will be quite a bit of work and testing, and doing so remotely will make that take significantly longer. So I'm just going to wait for my own device, but as they aren't available in my country, it has to be shipped from another country and go through customs. I don't expect my device to arrive for another week or two.
In the meantime, it's always possible someone else releases root for it.
I saw @jcase and @Dees_Troy have been playing with TWRP, to me it seems wholly possible to fix that up (mostly) as well. But even if TWRP is released tomorrow, using the existing SuperSU ZIP will not work on it, due to all the breaking changes in Android 7.1.
Will be interesting if you can do it CF... Looking forward to release - Ill send a donation your way when done
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Will be interesting if you can do it CF... Looking forward to release - Ill send a donation your way when done
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The worst possible thing you could write...
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The worst possible thing you could write...
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Hmmm... Does it matter ive donated like 3 or 4 times to him already over the years xd
Either way looking forward to it
fkofilee said:
Hmmm... Does it matter ive donated like 3 or 4 times to him already over the years xd
Either way looking forward to it
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If your intent was truly altruistic, you wouldn't feel the "burden" of stating it publicly. So no, it doesn't matter.
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This is the first device with Android's new partition layout. Having looked at the firmwares and at running devices (remotely), I have some ideas on how to do it.
However, it will be a while before I have SuperSU fixed up. The changes will be quite a bit of work and testing, and doing so remotely will make that take significantly longer. So I'm just going to wait for my own device, but as they aren't available in my country, it has to be shipped from another country and go through customs. I don't expect my device to arrive for another week or two.
In the meantime, it's always possible someone else releases root for it.
I saw @jcase and @Dees_Troy have been playing with TWRP, to me it seems wholly possible to fix that up (mostly) as well. But even if TWRP is released tomorrow, using the existing SuperSU ZIP will not work on it, due to all the breaking changes in Android 7.1.
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Confirmation number: 57C48888US937054E
Chainfire said:
This is the first device with Android's new partition layout. Having looked at the firmwares and at running devices (remotely), I have some ideas on how to do it.
However, it will be a while before I have SuperSU fixed up. The changes will be quite a bit of work and testing, and doing so remotely will make that take significantly longer. So I'm just going to wait for my own device, but as they aren't available in my country, it has to be shipped from another country and go through customs. I don't expect my device to arrive for another week or two.
In the meantime, it's always possible someone else releases root for it.
I saw @jcase and @Dees_Troy have been playing with TWRP, to me it seems wholly possible to fix that up (mostly) as well. But even if TWRP is released tomorrow, using the existing SuperSU ZIP will not work on it, due to all the breaking changes in Android 7.1.
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Appreciate all you do Chainfire, seriously. Can't wait for you to work your magic
Ah its so funny to what people write after all these years of people spending their own time to work out back doors and exploits to enable root / Xposed / Custom bootloaders / Kernels / Recoveries.
People can't just wait and see and if the devs ask for help or testers just be part of it, throwing a few dollars at them is not going to push things forward . . . let them do what they want to do its their project / baby and it will happen when it does.
Support the devs after the fact dont try and attempt to influence them into it with beer money.
Some of y'all are ridiculous! The guy made a harmless statement and didn't mean anything negative by it. And what do all of the analytical geekers do? Just that... Analyze his comment to the bone and find all sorts of self-serving intent within it. Blows my mind...
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Ah its so funny to what people write after all these years of people spending their own time to work out back doors and exploits to enable root / Xposed / Custom bootloaders / Kernels / Recoveries.
People can't just wait and see and if the devs ask for help or testers just be part of it, throwing a few dollars at them is not going to push things forward . . . let them do what they want to do its their project / baby and it will happen when it does.
Support the devs after the fact dont try and attempt to influence them into it with beer money.
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Oh shut up. What a stupid thing to say. People are excited about dev work, and if they suggest a donation, what do you care? Why is it any of your business? If the dev has a problem with people providing positive feedback and offering donations, they will make it known.
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Ker~Man said:
Some of y'all are ridiculous! The guy made a harmless statement and didn't mean anything negative by it. And what do all of the analytical geekers do? Just that... Analyze his comment to the bone and find all sorts of self-serving intent within it. Blows my mind...
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Totally agree. Thanks for speaking up!
Chainfire said:
This is the first device with Android's new partition layout. Having looked at the firmwares and at running devices (remotely), I have some ideas on how to do it.
However, it will be a while before I have SuperSU fixed up. The changes will be quite a bit of work and testing, and doing so remotely will make that take significantly longer. So I'm just going to wait for my own device, but as they aren't available in my country, it has to be shipped from another country and go through customs. I don't expect my device to arrive for another week or two.
In the meantime, it's always possible someone else releases root for it.
I saw @jcase and @Dees_Troy have been playing with TWRP, to me it seems wholly possible to fix that up (mostly) as well. But even if TWRP is released tomorrow, using the existing SuperSU ZIP will not work on it, due to all the breaking changes in Android 7.1.
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Hey I've unlocked my bootloader, but with the different partition layout and file based encryption (assuming this device uses that), is there any chance I'll have to erase my data and start over for root?
Because I got the 128GB model and I'm ready to start filling up with apps and keep a big portion of my Google Play music library to save on data and everything but I don't want to do it if there's a real possibility I'll have to erase everything if to achieve root.
I guess it is possible to use a custom recovery (once they come out) to backup, but that'll be a huge backup if I start keeping all my music to the device.
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tveith said:
Oh shut up. What a stupid thing to say. People are excited about dev work, and if they suggest a donation, what do you care? Why is it any of your business? If the dev has a problem with people providing positive feedback and offering donations, they will make it known.
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Totally agree. Thanks for speaking up!
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What ever but tour the same guys who's going to be asking for OTAs and asking devs to do this that and the other as fast as humanly possible.
If you want it that bad do it your self or sit and wait like a good little child.
No dev is going to rush something because of some people in a forum get a grip, like I said it's their time and it will be ready when it's ready.
You might think I'm going off on one but read the rules page for Christ's sakes.
sionicion said:
Hey I've unlocked my bootloader, but with the different partition layout and file based encryption (assuming this device uses that), is there any chance I'll have to erase my data and start over for root?
Because I got the 128GB model and I'm ready to start filling up with apps and keep a big portion of my Google Play music library to save on data and everything but I don't want to do it if there's a real possibility I'll have to erase everything if to achieve root.
I guess it is possible to use a custom recovery (once they come out) to backup, but that'll be a huge backup if I start keeping all my music to the device.
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The chance you'll have to erase is always present when rooting. Even when your device is fully prepared something may go wrong. At least you have already unlocked your bootloader, which reduces that chance.
File-based encryption will probably not be a reason to for wiping, though. It works fine in the dev version of SuperSU with Android 7.0 on a 5X.
Hey guys. Found this on the interwebs and was wondering how valid it is. http://www.technobuzz.net/root-google-pixel-xl/
Seeing as it calls for twrp which is not yet available, would flashfire work?
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mrnovanova said:
Hey guys. Found this on the interwebs and was wondering how valid it is. http://www.technobuzz.net/root-google-pixel-xl/
Seeing as it calls for twrp which is not yet available, would flashfire work?
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Looks interesting, but without twrp you sure are taking a big chance if something goes wrong.
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