Help Please...!! - XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Xda developers and all its users.
I have xperia X8 and i love my phone and using android 2.1 Eclair happily but for so many days i am quite unhappy because of some resons about my phone like
I cant port my apps toy sd card(Main Reason)
Multi touch disability..
So i have just rooted up my phone and install xrecovery 0.1 sucessfully
Now i am bit confused about choosing a rom formy phone..
After reading other threads about same problem some said froyo is better and else said ICS is better..
So guys plz suggest me which rom i should install in my phone which have no bugs and cant be laggy at all...
I can use my phone mostly for gaming,browsing and listening songs.
I like ICS and Jelly beans both..
Is there any custom rom among both of them which i can use....
Please suggest me...
Thank You

Well since you've just install xRecovery i assume you are using stock kernel.So i suggest you to use GingerDX v028b.
You've been joining XDA for about a year now but why did you post your question in Themes & App section.You should post your question in Q&A section.Please read the forum rules!!
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Stock kernel-froyo(minicm6,froyobread)
Custom kernel-whatever above 2,1
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This:
Couldn't have said it better mate!
nazz.rule said:
Well since you've just install xRecovery i assume you are using stock kernel.So i suggest you to use GingerDX v028b.
You've been joining XDA for about a year now but why did you post your question in Themes & App section.You should post your question in Q&A section.Please read the forum rules!!
Sent from my Xperia™ X8
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Try kuyadroid 4.5.4 latest version.
Officially corp via W8

i recommend you to use gingerdx rom.the most nice rom for our x8.
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Thank you guys for your response.I will surely try gingerdx...but is there any other rom which gives me ICS feel...

Just use cm7themes
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Try them out. Please use search next time
And there's no ics for stock..
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omerbl should
Ishanfaithful said:
Hi Xda developers and all its users.
I have xperia X8 and i love my phone and using android 2.1 Eclair happily but for so many days i am quite unhappy because of some resons about my phone like
I cant port my apps toy sd card(Main Reason)
Multi touch disability..
So i have just rooted up my phone and install xrecovery 0.1 sucessfully
Now i am bit confused about choosing a rom formy phone..
After reading other threads about same problem some said froyo is better and else said ICS is better..
So guys plz suggest me which rom i should install in my phone which have no bugs and cant be laggy at all...
I can use my phone mostly for gaming,browsing and listening songs.
I like ICS and Jelly beans both..
Is there any custom rom among both of them which i can use....
Please suggest me...
Thank You
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go to original android development category,and there you can find rooms like ics,download canoygen mod 7 with ics themes,it has android gingerbread 2.3.7 and its for daily using and it has great performance..

FroyoPro :d
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Hey I'd say go with gingerxperia revolution or minicm7.....these two roms are really good.....
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As per u all said i installed Gingerdx...but when i reboot my phone the screen stucks at "SONY ERICSSON" logo...
What i do now....??

Install GZR!

your device is on stock kernel so put gingerbread rom/froyo ,its more stable....cause jelly bean and ics are not stable though on custom kernel.

2010matej said:
Install GZR!
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What is GZR..??
I dnt have much knowledge about this..
plz provide a step by step guide and also the links of needed softwares

Ishanfaithful said:
What is GZR..??
I dnt have much knowledge about this..
plz provide a step by step guide and also the links of needed softwares
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its GingerZaraki. but its only for Custom kernel.
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IAmNice said:
Stop asking us to help you step by step. We are not your person tech support! Being on xda requires basic knowledge. If you dont know anything read and use the search button!
Sent by a nice guy with a nice phone
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Its not been written anywhere that if you dont have any knowledge you cant register on xda or ask your problems..So please if you cant help stop interfearing..

No offense to the op but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7199177
Searching helps. Now, there is no "best rom". But since you pretty much know what you want, i suggest checkinh out the roms in the dev forums and find out which rom suits you best.
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Related

[Q] Need help...

Is there anyway to install adobe flash player and make it work on X8/W8 with stock rom(Ecliar) android 2.1 update 1... Please help me....
You can try this, i dont know if it will work on stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147092
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demonshouter said:
You can try this, i dont know if it will work on stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147092
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just for 2.2 and up only... not for eclair
Im sorry but what you want is not be possible with lower android version.
You need to hack that app to make it work
deedii said:
Im sorry but what you want is not be possible with lower android version.
You need to hack that app to make it work
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how to hack it??? please teach me...
urm hack the app or android version to get higher??
i think u better hack the phone to 2.2 or higher if u want more. its easy and not too risky i guess.
demonshouter said:
i think u better hack the phone to 2.2 or higher if u want more. its easy and not too risky i guess.
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can u share a link of fully working froyo??
hope not suggest minicm6 cause it market have problem and it framework-res.apk is suck...
BohArie said:
can u share a link of fully working froyo??
hope not suggest minicm6 cause it market have problem and it framework-res.apk is suck...
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I prefer Gingerbread , which is fast , stable and with more features.
My favorite -->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480404
AND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188486
Mayank77 said:
I prefer Gingerbread , which is fast , stable and with more features.
My favorite -->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480404
AND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188486
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thanks but this 2 roms have problem with fmradio...
BohArie said:
thanks but this 2 roms have problem with fmradio...
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For Froyo , i suggest froyobread.
Search for the thread in the development section.
Mayank77 said:
For Froyo , i suggest froyobread.
Search for the thread in the development section.
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No way FroyoPro is waay better. Fully working and excellent battery life. Its the continuation of FroyoBread.
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NIMBAH said:
No way FroyoPro is waay better. Fully working and excellent battery life. Its the continuation of FroyoBread.
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Thank You for telling me... I myself was not aware of this.
@OP - Then go for FroyoPro
BohArie said:
can u share a link of fully working froyo??
hope not suggest minicm6 cause it market have problem and it framework-res.apk is suck...
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Its gingerbread and i think it runs pretty good anf smooth on my w8. Ive been using it for about three months and nothing really matter for daily use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188486
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Or you can try nAa ICS 4.0.4 CM9 rom @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24284102
Anything works except camcorder(camera works) and HW video encoding/decoding .
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Press thanks if helped
*Xperia X8 Black @ ICS 4.0.4 CM9 on nAa ICS* Thank you very much nAa!
zlewe said:
Or you can try nAa ICS 4.0.4 CM9 rom @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24284102
Anything works except camcorder(camera works) and HW video encoding/decoding .
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Press thanks if helped
*Xperia X8 Black @ ICS 4.0.4 CM9 on nAa ICS* Thank you very much nAa!
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Lol that just got out of alpha stage, not the best choice for a beginner.
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NIMBAH said:
Lol that just got out of alpha stage, not the best choice for a beginner.
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sorry dude im not a beginner... about custom kernel I cant unlock my bt... so I cant installed rom which using custom kernel...
NO way
no way even on 2.2 and 2.3, you can install it but never get it work because of the hardware limitation
you need ARMV7 CPU to make it work and the X8 is an ARMV6 phone
Net_killer said:
no way even on 2.2 and 2.3, you can install it but never get it work because of the hardware limitation
you need ARMV7 CPU to make it work and the X8 is an ARMV6 phone
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Everyone has flash on their X8, it's been cracked for ARMV6.
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NIMBAH said:
Everyone has flash on their X8, it's been cracked for ARMV6.
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everyone has flash on their X8 but it cant play swf files and it can't display flash animations on the navigator
Net_killer said:
everyone has flash on their X8 but it cant play swf files and it can't display flash animations on the navigator
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But who installs flash on their X8 to look at animations or whatever? As long as it plays videos on the browser and iplayer I'm cool.
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need more STOCK ROMS? :(

Hi developers can we get a new stock rom (we are using gingerdxv28 stock but sometimes its not much satisfiable,restarts bcz of low memory).i think here developers stopped making new stock roms.everyone is making ROMS for nAa and Alfs..& i here somany people having xperia x8(11W48 which is not possible to unlock bootloader so we cant install new kernels).So please make STOCK ROMS( for gaming) & please help us.
Ehm...a search would been usefull...
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Are you serious dude? You are asking devs to make stock ROMs?
Chris95X8 said:
Are you serious dude? You are asking devs to make stock ROMs?
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ROFL..:laugh:
ferozfirru said:
Hi developers can we get a new stock rom (we are using gingerdxv28 stock but sometimes its not much satisfiable,restarts bcz of low memory).i think here developers stopped making new stock roms.everyone is making ROMS for nAa and Alfs..& i here somany people having xperia x8(11W48 which is not possible to unlock bootloader so we cant install new kernels).So please make STOCK ROMS( for gaming) & please help us.
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Hmmm..i don't think so, even the ICS for stock has been stopped...i like what u asked from devs, cause I can't unlock bootloader too...but I think there will be new roms for.us....
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Developers tend to prefer custom kernels for the increased capabilities they offer. Its unfortunate, but thats just the way it is. I have an unlocked bootloader but im still using stock kernel for now. If the Rom your using isn't satisfying you, search for others n try a few. Im currently using LinuXperia v2 for stock kernel n its a great Rom ive had barely any issues with. You'll just have to look at other Roms that run on stock for now
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Stock kernel must be satesfied with froyo.
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maybe I can make some PIE for us!
hahaha...LOLz!!
just take a sit and keep try!
keep smiling while dev do the best for our little phone!

Xperia x8 roms

Can somebody give me some good roms whic I can install on my Xperia x8 without unlocking bootloader?
I allredy have GingerXperia 2.3.7 and i want android version higher than 3.0.
Thanks for all!!!
There are none.
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IAmNice said:
Cant you look for yourself next time?
Sent by a nice guy with a nice phone
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Haha, don't be so tough. There is a list in general section if I remember clearly. Please. Search
Ok please stop guys Its out of the topic.
GingerCruzt, XGIN and GDX is really worth a try for stock.
U can try kuyadroid 4.5.4. It's very stable and fast.
Orignal gingerbred look and awesome performance.
I already tried gingerdx ang gingerxperia, but i like it most because it is simple and fast.
Go for it
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Closed, search, read, we are not here to do the legwork for you.

How to Install ICS ROM on OB for Newbies

Dear all..
I am a newbie and no shame to admit that.. So appealing all senior members to guide the step by step guide to install the latest version of ROM to our beloved Optimus black
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manishsinghon said:
Dear all..
I am a newbie and no shame to admit that.. So appealing all senior members to guide the step by step guide to install the latest version of ROM to our beloved Optimus black
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First .. there's no official ICS rom for optimus black.We have unofficial CM9 , but without a working camera and with some bugs.
Now if you want to install CM9 on your phone , you must be rooted.If your rom has root , restart into CWM and follow this instructions :
- Go into ClockworkMod
- Do the follow wipes: /data /cache and /dalvik
- Install zip from sd card and choose the cm-9-XXXXXXXX-UNOFFICIAL-p970.zip
- Choose "yes" and flash
- Reboot
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I recommend this version of ICS -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887320
manishsinghon said:
Dear all..
I am a newbie and no shame to admit that.. So appealing all senior members to guide the step by step guide to install the latest version of ROM to our beloved Optimus black
Sent from my LG-P970 using xda app-developers app
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I'm on my phone atm, so I can't give links, but they're on this forum.
1. Get rooted.
2. Get ROM Manager from the Play store and flash CWM.
2. Download the ICS ROM and Google Apps ICS, they're on the blog of FOP.
3. Use Titanium Backup to backup your apps.
4. Reboot in CWM with ROM Manager.
5. Click backup/restore and backup your current ROM.
6. Go back and click Wipe data/factory reset.
7. Click wipe data partition.
8.Go to advanced > wipe dalvik cache.
9. Go back and click Install zip from Sdcard, find your ROM and install it.
10. Go to advanced > wipe dalvik cache again.
11. Go to install zip from sdcard and find your gapps and install them.
12. Reboot, first boot takes some time. If your stuck at the bootlogo, click g-key some times, you will go to CWM. Here you can restore your ROM you used before.
13. Go to the play store and get titanium backup and restore your apps.
Press thanks if i helped
EDIT: If you want to try JB, you do the same but you get JB gapps.
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A video guide would be very useful for us.. But Tnx. Alot
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DaemonOnx said:
First .. there's no official ICS rom for optimus black.We have unofficial CM9 , but without a working camera and with some bugs.
Now if you want to install CM9 on your phone , you must be rooted.If your rom has root , restart into CWM and follow this instructions :
I recommend this version of ICS -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887320
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Dear Daemon do we have any official ICS rom for Optimus black.. By official I mean ICS taken from other LG ICS enabled phone.. Forgive me if I am not right.. Please advise
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manishsinghon said:
A video guide would be very useful for us.. But Tnx. Alot
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Just follow the steps, i figured it out by myself aswell when i was a noob.
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manishsinghon said:
Dear Daemon do we have any official ICS rom for Optimus black.. By official I mean ICS taken from other LG ICS enabled phone.. Forgive me if I am not right.. Please advise
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He already told you there is none. Read my noob how to, then come back and ask questions, if ANY should remain.
manishsinghon said:
Dear Daemon do we have any official ICS rom for Optimus black.. By official I mean ICS taken from other LG ICS enabled phone.. Forgive me if I am not right.. Please advise
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Its is good to be and accept NOOB but its really bad to act like. He has cleared already in his above post " there's no official ICS rom for optimus black.We have unofficial CM9".
I dont see any reason to ask again and again. And you question is vague. Can you please give us a video about your OB e.g Is it rooted, which rom are you using, which version you have and etc?
pkb_always4u said:
Its is good to be and accept NOOB but its really bad to act like. He has cleared already in his above post " there's no official ICS rom for optimus black.We have unofficial CM9".
I dont see any reason to ask again and again. And you question is vague. Can you please give us a video about your OB e.g Is it rooted, which rom are you using, which version you have and etc?
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Pkb please don't overreact.. If you really want to help noobs plz share a detailed process of installing various ICS ROM on OB.. And by the way I am using un rooted phone.. And dnt knw to root it either.. Currently 2.3.4 v20g is running on my phone
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He's not a noob guys, he's just a newbie... I don't like the term Noob, just sound harsh to me xP
Anyway to install any unoffical CM9,ICS or ICS based roms you must (of course) be rooted and have clockworkmod recovery.
Always backup before installing any rom!!
Here is a list of some ICS roms:
Unofficial CM9 by nunogil
Unofficial CM9 by FreeOptimusProject
Ultrasound Rom HD Beats Edition by blacktecktonik
MIUIv4 Ultrasound by blacktecktonik
Unoffcial AOKP by koila33
PanaroidAndroid by koila33
Motorola Blur by DiederikC
I may have missed one or two sorry about that lol
Apparently the most functional ones may be Ultrasound Rom HD or both Unofficial CM9, both having camera glitch and no HW acceleration due to no official kernel from LG.
Hey I would recommend you to wait a little because apparently official ICS from LG will roll out on September 25.... I don't know if it's true. But till then, wait for the end of September before flashing any unofficial ICS roms.
EDIT: Since you are unrooted, follow THIS THREAD or more specifically THIS ONE
EDIT: there's a CM10
But it's in an early stage CyanogenMod10 Jelly Bean by chenleicpp
The rom has same bugs as ICS + audio not working and some other bugs
WIIstpM said:
He's not a noob guys, he's just a newbie... I don't like the term Noob, just sound harsh to me xP
Anyway to install any unoffical CM9,ICS or ICS based roms you must (of course) be rooted and have clockworkmod recovery.
Always backup before installing any rom!!
Here is a list of some ICS roms:
Unofficial CM9 by nunogil
Unofficial CM9 by FreeOptimusProject
Ultrasound Rom HD Beats Edition by blacktecktonik
MIUIv4 Ultrasound by blacktecktonik
Unoffcial AOKP by koila33
PanaroidAndroid by koila33
Motorola Blur by DiederikC
I may have missed one or two sorry about that lol
Apparently the most functional ones may be Ultrasound Rom HD or both Unofficial CM9, both having camera glitch and no HW acceleration due to no official kernel from LG.
Hey I would recommend you to wait a little because apparently official ICS from LG will roll out on September 25.... I don't know if it's true. But till then, wait for the end of September before flashing any unofficial ICS roms.
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Thnxccc bro... It seems a nice reply... And will wait for official ICS rom for at least one month.. What about zeus rom..? And I am not that noob.. Just not sure how to do it.. Nd Thnxccc for supporting me.. :thumbup:
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manishsinghon said:
Thnxccc bro... It seems a nice reply... And will wait for official ICS rom for at least one month.. What about zeus rom..? And I am not that noob.. Just not sure how to do it.. Nd Thnxccc for supporting me.. :thumbup:
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Zeus Rom is the most popular rom right now!!
It's extremely stable, with new tweaks/features like Quickpanel, OverCloking, Voltage changer, and many many more!
That's what I'm using while waiting for official ICS
WIIstpM said:
Zeus Rom is the most popular rom right now!!
It's extremely stable, with new tweaks/features like Quickpanel, OverCloking, Voltage changer, and many many more!
That's what I'm using while waiting for official ICS
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Cool.. Can u send me the. Download link for zeus rom and the process of installing that..
.. And
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manishsinghon said:
Cool.. Can u send me the. Download link for zeus rom and the process of installing that..
.. And
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Erm this one you could have searched it yourself lol..
The Blog containing links
The Original thread containing discussions, tutorials, etc
Latest version is v7 but maybe it's not as stable as v6.39
First of all seriously READ my noob how to. Then you ll learn, how to root your device, install custom ROMs,... Also links to many ROMs are in there. Then go to the dev section of this forum and have a look at all the ROMs. Choose whatever you want, backup your device, install the ROM, test it, choose if you wanna keep it or not and continue with another ROM, if you dont like it.
Please dont ask for more noob how to's, if you are not willing to read. Not meaning to flame you, but if you dont understand of what you are doing, chances are rather high, that you will screw up your device. And I think that is nothing that you wanna do.
So read my noob how to, follow links if necessary and follow the tutorials given. Any questions left? Search here on the forum. Still questions left? Ask google. Still questions? Come back and ask. But please dont ask for things, that are there already. I made that noob how to for a purpose. It was meant for noobs like you and me (since we all start as noobs somewhen).
So go and read now please. And you wont get it all in one day, so take your time, ok?
Nice one
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manishsinghon said:
Dear all..
I am a newbie and no shame to admit that.. So appealing all senior members to guide the step by step guide to install the latest version of ROM to our beloved Optimus black
Sent from my LG-P970 using xda app-developers app
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If you read and follow the forum rules you will find all the answers you need, this goes for every new guy looking for answers
There is video also how to root and install in ob foroum somewhere if m nt wrng ill search for u its easy once u learn ill link u
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Very usefull thnks dude:thumbup:
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Omg! He only didnt wanted to "come here and install rom"
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This is the wrong section for a post like this and there's a guide for newbie like you made by nooby...
Please read the forum rules and search the forum before posting anything...
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Suggestion for ROM

I want it to have the following things:
Bluetooth tethering
WiFi work well
Themes+nice user
interfCe(optional)
Camera
And Hebrew(!)
Tnx
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What's the ROM you're using now?
And I want a mansion like scarface had, 2 million euro, and 10 top class sport cars I'll tell you the rom if you give me those things now go to development sections and read you lazy twat! It's not a midnight request show!
Peace!
i suggest u a bed-room ? coz i personally stay in my bedroom all the time. its spacious and has everything in it.
so u want it ? XD
edit = now that better,
well u can use the cm9 or cm10 if u want smoothness and the feel of ics and jb.
if u want everything to work try cyanmobile experience..based on gb. check my sign where to find that.
u can also try mebiteks cm7 ...search in development section.
Jokes aside, if you're on stock (out of the box) rom, you need cwm . Flash it with Odin, don't even think about using rom manager , it will brick your phone. Check android version in "about phone", if its 2.3 you can flash cwm. If it's lower, upgrade your firmware. You can find all info by either googling it or looking around xda.
yackovsky said:
Jokes aside, if you're on stock (out of the box) rom, you need cwm . Flash it with Odin, don't even think about using rom manager , it will brick your phone. Check android version in "about phone", if its 2.3 you can flash cwm. If it's lower, upgrade your firmware. You can find all info by either googling it or looking around xda.
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I already flashed another ROM
Slim miui job
it has everything but Hebrew /:
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Android_United said:
i suggest u a bed-room ? coz i personally stay in my bedroom all the time. its spacious and has everything in it.
so u want it ? XD
edit = now that better,
well u can use the cm9 or cm10 if u want smoothness and the feel of ics and jb.
if u want everything to work try cyanmobile experience..based on gb. check my sign where to find that.
u can also try mebiteks cm7 ...search in development section.
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I don't think they have Bluetooth tethering
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mr.faridcom said:
What's the ROM you're using now?
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Slim MIUI JB
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aviranx said:
I already flashed another ROM
Slim miui job
it has everything but Hebrew /:
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there isn't too many roms with Hebrew, unfortunately...

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