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Just to verify for hdmi out..

This wouldn't do anything would it? We also need some hardware to do it?
http://www.amazon.ca/Micro-USB-to-HDMI-Adapter/dp/B005YW1LZM/ref=pd_luc_bxgy_01_01_t_lh

It will not work
I really wish it did...

They don't have a lot of the premium tablet features to keep the price down. To be honest, I have the ASUS Transformer for a year, and not once have I connected it to my TV.
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Yeah I didn't really want this as like a make or break thing and I didn't think it would work.. but just wanted to check XD thanks

I had a Transformer and I used HDMI very often for my emulators in my mancave on my TV.
I knew the N7 didn't have it but whatever. I have high hopes some genius dev will figure out how to make MHL work.
My Galaxy Nexus works if I have to play anything on my TV.
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player911 said:
I had a Transformer and I used HDMI very often for my emulators in my mancave on my TV.
I knew the N7 didn't have it but whatever. I have high hopes some genius dev will figure out how to make MHL work.
My Galaxy Nexus works if I have to play anything on my TV.
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MHL requires a chip that the nexus doesn't have, a developer can't do squat.

Doesn't the media link hd work on the nexus with a certain app from the market? Or is that only good for watching movies?

I had planned on using my Nexus 7 for HDMI-out to stream videos and stuff. I was a bit disappointed when they said it didn't have it. Then I went to Walmart and purchased a Roku for $50. Now I'm a very happy person because I am no longer dissatisfied with my Nexus. Plus, the Roku is much better than streaming from a device anyway. So, yeah, it's an extra $50, but you're not going to have to put up with the hassle of reconnecting your device every time you want to use it, plus it has a dedicated and very easy to use UI that translates better to a TV screen. I know this doesn't really help those who wanted to mirror their device for gaming, but I'm sure it will help a few.

As an alternative though ESR Labs are working on screen streaming from Nexus devices (including the Nexus 7) and NVidia are working on Miracast for the Tegra 3 chipset.

OMG! someone needs to make a video like this using the Nexus 4 as a desktop computer!

He is using a Galaxy Note in the video but it seems easy right?
- HDMI to a monitor
- Bluetooth mouse
- Bluetooth keyboard
Seems like an awesome idea to me. Use the Nexus 4 as your mobile device when your outside of the house and when you come back home and need a desktop to work on just plug in your Nexus 4 and start. Finally PC free. One device to rule them all :victory:
Anyone else going to try this with the Nexus 4 when it comes out? I know I sure want to but I'm not sure if the Nexus 4 works with bluetooth mice the same way the Galaxy Note does Galaxy Nexus users would probably know.

I can confirm that the Galaxy Nexus works with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. I have used my phone as a "desktop computer" when I was on a vacation.
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jkoljo said:
I can confirm that the Galaxy Nexus works with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. I have used my phone as a "desktop computer" when I was on a vacation.
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Thank you for letting me know! :good:
Makes me really happy to hear that. I don't really need PC programs so I love the idea of using a smartphone as my one and only computer :highfive:

The Nexus 4 uses Slimport HDMI, according to the specifications it allows HDMI output and USB-otg at the same time!! This means there will be docks with HDMI out and several USB-ports (at least I hope there will be).
So you can connect a monitor USB keyboards, mice and harddrives all at the same time!
Edit: I might have gotten a little too exited and misinterpreted the data sheet.
Simultanious HDMI output and USB-otg might not be possible after all.
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html

cheers to hoping for the first device that has ubuntu for android and a dock

Embrace the future my friends, Google is far sited as well as near
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I do the same atm with my one x, only problem I can see is the lack of mhl will make it more expensive
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I'm expecting/hoping canonical will release ubuntu for android for the nexus 4

With miracast, charching orb and BT keyboard/mouse combo, you can do this totally wireless and cooler and pricy.

I would have thought a tablet would be better because of tablet-optimised apps. If you wanted to do office-type work, the tablet versions of office suites makes much better use of the screen real-estate.

You can achieve the same result with most 'modern' smartphones that support HDMI out. It's a neat little trick, I use it a lot with my tablet. I think someone above mentioned the tablet apps are better - and this is definitely true at my end. Far more suited to a telly.
So as this can be prescribed to pretty much any phone, I'll go ahead and close it here. Give it a shot though - definitely worth doing.
Just for curiosity's sake, Samsung have released a dock for the Note 2 to make the most out of this. Provides not only HDMI out, but also full-sized USB ports for peripherals and 3.5mm audio-out. I'm waiting for it to hit :good:
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Wireless Display (Miracast)

Has anyone actually managed to make the Nexus 4 Wireless Display option work? Not much info around the web on it. Mainly people failing miserably.
I have an LG TV (47LM6610) which (apparently) supports "Screen Share" and it detects the Nexus 4, sends it an invite, I accept on the Nexus, the TV shows the Nexus as a connected device but the Nexus still shows nothing in its Wireless Display devices list.
Tried everything! Have emailed LG support and they were pretty dismissive and simply confirmed that it "should work". Sent an enquiry to Google support but not holding my breath.
Anyone had any luck with this or is it yet another half baked feature?
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Depends whether it's half baked on the TV or the phone
What happens often with these new standards is nobody talks to each other so they all implement it slightly differently.

Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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kostodo said:
Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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Neither sad nor hilarious, just a classical case of the technological forerunner. Happened to pretty much every nontrivial technology. Some (like bluetooth profiles) did not overcome their problems till this day.
Regarding LG, their TV branch does not necessary even talk to the smartphone branch, much less to google.

Hopefully we'll see some proper miracast sinks sooner rather than later - at least there's demonstration videos showing up lately, that should be a good sign?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL14GaqzIUw
Latency seems quite good from what I can tell. I also like form factor!
Now the dropped frames on the other hand.. I guess the source is to blame? Let's see if the Nexus 4 does a better job at that

kostodo said:
Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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Obviously one product needs to be released before the other, especially one sided puts pressure to get implemented on the other side. Also its a software technology so that it's made by lg has no relevance whatsoever.
As far as I remember, Bluetooth existed on handsets long before anything used it. also TV software is a new thing, can't expect it to launch with that much implementation with phones when synergy between phones and TVs really has only been around for around two years or so.
Besides, when miracast was announced it was clear it was not backward compatible.

I've ordered the Netgear PTV3000 even that still have some bugs but I think they will update the firmware to connect with Nexus 4. There is a YouTube demonstrate it can work with Sony Phone that is Miracast support.
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Netgear PTV3000 does not yet support Nexus 4 yet.
And that's my point, not a single device supports the Nexus 4 it seems.
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kostodo said:
Netgear PTV3000 does not yet support Nexus 4 yet.
And that's my point, not a single device supports the Nexus 4 it seems.
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It is actually the other way round: Netgear PTV3000 is not known to properly support Miracast yet.
Here is a list of certified Miracast receivers:
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/search_products.php?search=1&advanced=1&lang=en&filter_company_id=&filter_category_id=&filter_subcategory=&filter_cid=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=69&x=56&y=12
and Netgear PTV3000 is nowhere to be seen. The same for LG TV sets.
Netgear themselves says:
*PTV3000 supports pre-standard compliant Miracast™ wireless enabled display devices.
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I also have an lg TV and yea it doesn't work . sees it but no . lol I guess its not miracast ? I haven't seen that word in the instructions anywhere
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But LG TVs do mention WiFi Screen Share and WiDi. Its unlikely that they would mention Miracast as its not a very marketing friendly.
I suppose its for LG to clarify...
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WiDi is Intel's standard, it supports Miracast as of version 3.5.
If it doesn't say Miracast, then assume it's not compatible.

Rusty! said:
WiDi is Intel's standard, it supports Miracast as of version 3.5.
If it doesn't say Miracast, then assume it's not compatible.
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Yes, WiDi v3.5 was announced just recently in last september.
Which means current LG TVs are likely to sport older WiDi versions which are not miracast compatible and won't connect to Nexus4 (or any other Miracast device for that matter).

Dying to find out
This is probably my most desired feature on this handset having tried for years to create software and services that would do it on all my other phones.
My flatmate has an HTC MediaLink HD, and from what I understand from the protocols and how that works, using wifi direct etc and seeing the screen mirroring work on his One X, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work with the N4, but I guess only time will tell - yep, still waiting for my "order confirmation" to be turned into a "tracking email"
As soon as I get it and tried it out I'll post back.

Use iMediaShare!

I have the Samsung Allshare Wireless Hub. It does not work with the Nexus 4. It pairs, but will not display audio/video at all.

Isn't it funny how the 3 new "standards" the N4 is pushing aren't really that universal?
Devices claiming Miracast devices don't work with the N4, yet
The Nokia Qi Chargers don't work with the Nexus 4
Slimport isn't as ubiquitous as MHL

That does DLNA not Miracast.
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Raul69.atl said:
Use iMediaShare!
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DLNA is merely a "file fetcher". A network drive interface.
Don't get me wrong that is extremely useful. I download torrents on my phone and play them on my TV all day. But you know what? I'd actually buy most movies and shows I watch if I could mirror Google TV to my TV. No, I am not gonna buy a box for that, it defeats the purpose to me. I'd buy blu-rays if I wanted to use extra hookups.

ericshmerick said:
I have the Samsung Allshare Wireless Hub. It does not work with the Nexus 4. It pairs, but will not display audio/video at all.
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damn, I was hoping it would work. I have the allshare hub for my Note 10.1.

USB to HDMI - Slimport - Anyone checked

Hi guys and gals,
I stumbled upon this few minutes ago:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6499/...ix-slimport-microusb-to-hdmi-and-vga-adapters
It is written that Nexus 4 supports this. But, is it possible to get it working on a Nexus 7? Is there any additional hardware in the N4 that is needed to support this?
Thanks!

monoik said:
Hi guys and gals,
I stumbled upon this few minutes ago:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6499/...ix-slimport-microusb-to-hdmi-and-vga-adapters
It is written that Nexus 4 supports this. But, is it possible to get it working on a Nexus 7? Is there any additional hardware in the N4 that is needed to support this?
Thanks!
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This is not possible with the nexus 7. The nexus 4 indeed has additional hardware to enable this feature that the 7 lacks.

The Nexus 7 doesn't have MHL support for this to be possible. The Nexus 4 on the other hand does so that's why it can be used. If I recall correctly the Nexus 7 can't put out any form of video to be broadcasted onto another screen/monitor/tv)

jonnyg1097 said:
The Nexus 7 doesn't have MHL support for this to be possible. The Nexus 4 on the other hand does so that's why it can be used. If I recall correctly the Nexus 7 can't put out any form of video to be broadcasted onto another screen/monitor/tv)
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This is not MHL. The lack of MHL on the N7 is well-known. The slimport tech is quite new, and the info on anandthech left the impression that the tablets/phones implement it on a software level. Oh well, a man can dream. :silly:

You already have a thread that addresses this question?

TF701 & 3G dongle

Hi all,
i would like to buy a tablet + keyboard + 3g but the old generation (tf300tg/tf300tl) seems to be no more available here in Italy (i just bought it on amazon.it but it came with the French localization, "azerty" keybord).
I'm wondering if someone ever managed to run an 3g dongle (USB) on the tf7001 (usb on keybord) . This seems to be possible on the tf700 with root and a specific app but i didn't find any info about the tf701.
any suggestion?

I think this device is too new to have some experience with this.
What you could do is search in the TF700 thread what software was used to make it work and test it yourself on your own TF701 after you bought it with a dongle and report here your findings.
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PPP Widget
chiabre said:
I'm wondering if someone ever managed to run an 3g dongle (USB) on the tf7001 (usb on keybord) .
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3G works flawlessly with my Huawei E160 Dongle and the PPPWidget App. You can get it for free in the Play Store.

Or just use a MiFi like everyone else.

sbdags said:
Or just use a MiFi like everyone else.
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While understanding I still wonder "is that an official word"? (PS I am one of everyone)
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Ruud Westerhout said:
While understanding I still wonder "is that an official word"? (PS I am one of everyone)
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Well in the UK it is but seems to have been crested by three.
Everyone I know uses them. You can connect up to 5 devises simultaneously. Battery lasts 30 days on standby, 10 hours continous use. USB dongles are dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiFi

Outside of battery life is there any advantage to using one of these vs just tethering on my phone?
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sbdags said:
Well in the UK it is but seems to have been crested by three.
Everyone I know uses them. You can connect up to 5 devises simultaneously. Battery lasts 30 days on standby, 10 hours continous use. USB dongles are dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiF
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I added another I to your link, just to check. For some reason I was sure that You were talking about making your "M"obile phone active as W"ifi" access point, but this is a little different. Is there some speed gain in this version against making your phone act like WAP ?
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Ruud Westerhout said:
I added another I to your link, just to check. For some reason I was sure that You were talking about making your "M"obile phone active as W"ifi" access point, but this is a little different. Is there some speed gain in this version against making your phone act like WAP ?
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Oops copy and paste fail
It creates a wirless hotspot - whilst connected to 4G - so you get very fast speeds. Also you don't need any drivers or for it to physically connected.

sbdags said:
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It creates a wirless hotspot - whilst connected to 4G - so you get very fast speeds. Also you don't need any drivers or for it to physically connected.
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Yeah, but that's what my HTC One also does, as long as our provider does actually deliver 4G (does not work so well). Also here no drivers needed, anyway MiFi is not exactly what I thought, but I was close.
So why the dongle?
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