Hello! I want to buy a HTC One from ebay and use it in Europe. Until now, when I bought from US, I chose either unlocked or from AT&T. Now, I'm not sure if there are any differences between US HTC One models. So, can anybody tell me if the One from Sprint would work in Europe? Ok. I've found out that the 2G bands would work after unlocking, but what about 3G and 4G? Thanks!
Check with your carrier and then compare the specs between the US and EU Ones to see which bands match up. I know in my case that Three UK would work for 3G using a DE One as Three use the 2100MHz band
EddyOS said:
Check with your carrier and then compare the specs between the US and EU Ones to see which bands match up. I know in my case that Three UK would work for 3G using a DE One as Three use the 2100MHz band
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Phonearena shows that 2G and 3G are the same for all models, but for 4G it shows this:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 1800 / 2600
LTE 1900 - for Sprint
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
What does this mean? Does this mean that ALL HTC One phones have LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600? Why the next line says only LTE 1800 / 2600? Also, for example Sprint have LTE 1900, but also the other ones from above? I hope you can tell me this. Thank you!
PS: I need 800/900/1800/2600.
What SIM card are you putting going to use, e.g. from what carrier (Vodafone??)? Then compare their 2/3/4G bands and then check the specs for the different Ones available and see which is best for you (which is what I said before - it's not hard to understand)
EddyOS said:
What SIM card are you putting going to use, e.g. from what carrier (Vodafone??)? Then compare their 2/3/4G bands and then check the specs for the different Ones available and see which is best for you (which is what I said before - it's not hard to understand)
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Maybe my english was not so good, but I'm not so stupid as you think. I know that I must compare their bands, but I don't know what are the specs for those phones. This is the reason why I wrote what gsmarena says about this phone. I think you didn't really read my previous post. I didn't find anywhere what are the bands for those models. I cannot explain better than in previous post.
OK, this is taken from HTCs website:
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the EU handset, 801n (m7_ul)
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the Asian handset, 801s (m7_ul) (probably)
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps <--- This is the North American GSM handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv)
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the T- Mobile handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv)
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps <--- This is the AT&T handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv))
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps <--- This is the Sprint handset, 801c (m7_wls)
So, you check what 3G band you network uses and see which phones support it
beny2 said:
Hello! I want to buy a HTC One from ebay and use it in Europe. Until now, when I bought from US, I chose either unlocked or from AT&T. Now, I'm not sure if there are any differences between US HTC One models. So, can anybody tell me if the One from Sprint would work in Europe? Ok. I've found out that the 2G bands would work after unlocking, but what about 3G and 4G? Thanks!
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Helloknow of any one rom for htc sprint m7 801c work with all these bands 2G Network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100
4G Network LTE 800/1800/2600
LTE 1800/2600 just bought one and I'm crazy for making it work in Spain. thank you very much.
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Helloknow of any one rom for htc sprint m7 801c work with all these bands 2G Network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100
4G Network LTE 800/1800/2600
LTE 1800/2600 just bought one and I'm crazy for making it work in Spain. thank you very much.
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Here is a datasheet on the Sprint HTC One. The operating bands are not rom dependent, it is the built in radio hardware. Check the datasheet if the bands you need are supported then it will work with any rom.
Currently I have i9305 and LTE micro sim, the telco LTE band is Band 1 (2100) and it seem that the i9305 does not support it. According to samsung and also gsmarena specs, it support only 1800/2600 LTE bands. I know that the chipset us is Qualcom MDM9215 and it supports 2100 LTE band also based on http://www.4gltemall.com/am-telecom-aml500-4g-lte-module.html where they are selling the product. Is there a flashable modem file for odin to enable this?
Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Modems are in the modem thread
JJEgan said:
Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Modems are in the modem thread
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Thanks, but I am well aware of the bands, my question is just how to enable the LTE BAND 2100 whic is currently widely implemented by Smart Communications and not the 1800 and 850 bands. Since on paper i9305 supports LTE Band 3/7/8/20, MDM9215 also supports Band 1 which is the LTE 2100. Modems thread does not include what LTE bands are supported and have to go to wikipedia to research it based on country.
adasys said:
Thanks, but I am well aware of the bands, my question is just how to enable the LTE BAND 2100 whic is currently widely implemented by Smart Communications and not the 1800 and 850 bands. Since on paper i9305 supports LTE Band 3/7/8/20, MDM9215 also supports Band 1 which is the LTE 2100. Modems thread does not include what LTE bands are supported and have to go to wikipedia to research it based on country.
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No idea its not a question asked .
Suggest you contact your vendor/ network .
if the chip support 2100,i'm sure samsung will wirte it on the instructions
the only reson maybe the chip differs in the supporting band even for the same chip
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.
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Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.
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Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/
Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
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Yes, the D5803 variant of the Sony Z3 Compact should work withT-mobile.
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
Sent from my C6916 using XDA Free mobile app
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I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos Tmobile Z3 Unboxing​
so pretty much like the Z1 (C6903 variant that did all USA 4G/LTE and 3G)!
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I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos l​
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how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol
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how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol
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You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards
drago10029 said:
You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards
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That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.
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That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.
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Well, if you have a better answer than by all means you can answer his question. I was just taking a stab at it based off of good assumptions.
I don't believe T-Mobile is getting the compact version, check this http://developer.sonymobile.com/tag/d5833/ and notice the tags at the bottom, no mention of a D5816 which should be the model of the compact TMO version, if there was one, based on D6616 being the standard size version.
It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
In order to work on T-Mobile's network, the device must support one of the following frequencies:
850 MHz (2G)
1900 MHz (2G or 3G / 4G depending on location)
1700/2100 MHz (3G / 4G or LTE depending on location)
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See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
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So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible
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It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible
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I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.
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I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.
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Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:
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Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:
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I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.
Firov said:
I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.
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Thank you for not only the answer but explanation, have a :good:
Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.
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Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.
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No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.
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No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.
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I have a Z3C coming for use on T-Mo in the states (going from GS3 as well). I almost didn't get it because of the lack of compatibility with LTE Band 12, but then I saw where the Band 12 coverage will actually be. Frankly, it doesn't cover my area, so I decided since it is compatible with all the other LTE Bands to go for it.
There is a great map at TMoNews that shows you just where the Band 12 coverage will be, but I can't post links yet.
I cant wait. My z3c will be here tomorrow... thanks for all the info.