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Nexus 7 in place of traditional GPS

As an owner of several android devices I've been thinking of getting a Nexus 7 tablet as a replacement for my Garmin GPS unit. The GPS unit I have today cost me $400 when I bought it and when I look at the platform it's a slow processor, 4gb of on-board storage, god awful voice control and 4 hours of use without the power. It led me to think about ditching it and using the Nexus 7 solely as my GPS but I think it would take some work to make it operate as a traditional GPS and it would need some thought around these areas;
Interface or Launcher - I'm thinking something similar to HTC Car or a full launcher replacement to lead right into a GPS app.
Mapping Program - There are several programs out there like NavFree and CoPilot but I still hope that Garmin Street-pilot comes to Android
Power Management - As your car starts the tablet to start and fire up the mapping app/Car Launcher without a ton of notifications and stuff (suppressed maybe?) and as your car powers off the tablet needs to shut itself down after let's say 5 minutes of no active power.
Traffic Updates - I'm not too sure how this can be done without a subscription in an app like CoPilot
Voice Command - I'm hoping Google Now! with a mapping app as the default it should be like 1000x more accurate at voice recognition. I think it needs a way to have a voice control daemon listening for a magic phrase to accept a command.
Enhanced POIs - it would be awesome if Poi could launch the native app associated with if need be.
these are just some of my random thoughts I was wondering what you guys thought? I think it could be done relatively simply and it'd be something i'd be willing to pay for to improve my GPS experience than the limited tech included in today's GPS navigation devices.

For the launcher idea, you could just spam a whole ton of maps icons all over the home screen. Then place some nfc stickers all over your car so you could activate wifi hotspot from your phone and activate wifi from your tablet to pair the 2 devices to use google maps.
I typed all that with google voice typing. Oh my goodness this is amazing.
Edit: By spam I mean placing a poopton of 2x2 squares of Maps, Navigation, Places, My Tracks, so that if you miss a tap with your finger, you won't dangerously scramble to resolve the issue and impair your driving.
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Be aware that a lot of what you are asking for relies on internet connectivity with an Android device. Might need to tether for best results!
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Garmin bought out Navigon which I hope means that application will improve. Currently it's a steaming pile of poo though and can't touch the ease of use of Google Maps. The shear act of trying to search for an address in these GPS applications (particularly Navigon) when one has been used to the simplicity of Google Maps is enough to make one want to throw the device against a wall. I say keep your Garmin and supplement it with Google Maps.
There's something to be said for the simplicity of having integrated google services, like planning a road trip on your desktop in Google Maps and having all of your favorites right there on your android device along with other useful information like websites and reviews. As others have stated though, you will need internet access.

Ive been testing it out a little bit. Obviously the stock google offerings are no good if you are trying to do this without a data connection.It looks like navFree is the best option i have used so far, nice interface and maps, accurate and good voice guidance. The only thing i dont like about this app is there is literally no way to cancel guidance mid trip, unless you just add a new destination. I like the co-pilot app too but once i used it in the car it become apparent there is no voice guidance, at least for the free version.

Won't work with polarized sunglasses in landscape, though.
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cmunic8r99 said:
Won't work with polarized sunglasses in landscape, though.
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That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?

Andrew025 said:
That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?
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There's a thread about it around here somewhere, something about the way the screen is made. If you search for polarized sunglasses I think you'll find it.

I pretty much bought it just for this. Although after using it for a little bit i am liking it more than my tf300.
I used it for a few trips with it tethered in car with google navigation and waze and it works well. The audio is piped through aux port and sounds good enough. However the mount i got from ebay is terrible... It shakes really bad, so hoping i can find a better mount.
And finally still looking for a car charger.
Also using go launcher so i can mount it landscape.
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Andrew025 said:
That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?
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My SGS2 works in both, but it blacks out if you turn it 45 degrees clockwise (or 270 CCW) . iPad has the same problem, but in portrait mode.
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Check this out - http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/upvy9/android_car_project/

Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.

sparky222b said:
Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.
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1 - Yes. It has a real GPS chip. User reports suggest it's very reliable, but I cannot comment as I don't own a N7 yet.
2 - I've seen some huge GPS units, but never a tablet mount. That said, check this link out.
3 - GMaps in offline mode can only cache select areas that you specify. When I go down south in a few weeks, I don't anticipate using Google Maps since their offline feature is (without being too mean) a joke. I'll probably be using NavFree or some other full featured offline GPS apps that I've read about on these forums. I love Google Navigation, but c'mon - how long have we been requesting offline maps? If other apps can take care of it, I'll easily switch to them to take care of the job.

Navfree, navigon and sygic work offline
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Eagle1337 said:
Navfree, navigon and sygic work offline
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Can you by chance comment a little further on these apps if you have experience with them? I'm curious how big they are when fully downloaded. Likewise I'm curious if I can download offline sections of the United States, but not the entire thing. For example, I don't want to have the entire globe downloaded if I'm only going to be traveling up and down the east coast, etc.

react9 said:
. . . And finally still looking for a car charger. . .
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http://store.griffintechnology.com/ipad/ipad-3/powerjolt-dual - dual outlets with full 10 watts of power for iPad or other tablets.

GPS seems pretty accurate. Took this sitting on my covered, south-facing front porch with WiFi turned off. This is after about fifteen seconds of measuring.
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Co-pilot fan
I have been using co-pilot for quite some time. It works flawless on my a500 tablet. And on my Huawei cell phone. It keeps maps up to date . There live traffic does cost a bit and you would need to tether to your phone to get the Right now accuracy. I do not think you need to reconfigure the tablet in any way. If you want CO - PILOT ONLY Edit the boot init script to boot co- pilot on start. FREEZE ALL OTHER APPS OR remove them (root needed for those two things ) .
I have tried many gps apps CO -PILOT IS by far the best and most accurate. GOOGLE MAPS will have you going wrong way on one way street . or showing you driving thru a field where there is now Roads. .
good luck

sparky222b said:
Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.
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I have used a piece of Velcro to mount my Garmin, but don't know if Velcro will stick to the Nexus.

cmunic8r99 said:
GPS seems pretty accurate. Took this sitting on my covered, south-facing front porch with WiFi turned off. This is after about fifteen seconds of measuring.
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Was going to ask what app you were using to get this data but I found it myself, just wanted to post the link in case anyone else wanted to know:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest
Going to give this a go on my N7 right now!
EDIT: I gave it a go and I can say that the GPS on N7 picks up satellites a heck of a lot better than my cell phone (Optimus 2X) and my actual dedicated Garmin GPS. I'm getting a connection to 10 satellites while *indoors* (couple meters from a window, sitting at a desk). It's about 39 feet accuracy from this position. I'll test it standing outside my front door and see how the accuracy improved and update this post further.
EDIT2: Standing out on my driveway I get the same accuracy as above (20 feet) connected to 12 satellites - from Toronto, Ontario.

Why I want my Nexus money back!

Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:

mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
[*]should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
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i lolz. sending it back because you can't google. priceless.
sorry about your troubles, i guess you got the antitheses of my N7, because it's mint.

mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
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Then contact Google for a refund. I don't have any problems with my Nexus.
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mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
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You got a bad unit. Happens to iPads too. For what it's worth a good unit works fantastic.
As for the bottom half of your list.... you are really complaining about no memory slot and rear camera? And that there isn't really 8GB of space? EVERY device does that. There is a music store, it's called Google Music, but feel free to use Amazon MP3 as well. You seem to have let yourself down.....

Mine is perfect and everything I thought it would be, sorry for your problems.

It sounds to me like you wanted an iPad and tried to buy the nexus to save some money.
Go ahead and get an iPad, Android is more for people who like to tinker and modify and have choices. Apple works out really well for people who want a system laid out for them that's real simple and dummy and non techie friendly. I buy them for my parents for that reason. I also have an iPad and an iPhone 4S so when I tell you that you and Android arent a match I'm not meaning any harm.
Make sure you get the 3G model iPad because they are much more picky about WiFi tether than Android.
However keep in mind that many of the negatives you don't like about Android are identical with the iPad.
And android has the play store which is a music store so I'm confused on that one and some of the other complaints, I think a lot of it was just not taking the time to learn your way around.
I'm very happy with my nexus its exceeded my expectations by far. Its in perfect condition physically and Im running an amazing custom ROM and kernel.
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Wow. Just wow. ...First post. No way this is real. :laugh:

Sounds like a troll to me, listing things it doesn't have that are clearly stated in all reviews and spec sheets - yet you label it all as negatives & utter surprise.
Also, where is the proof of your problems?
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U mad brah?
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_MetalHead_ said:
U mad brah?
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That never gets old. :laugh:

I don't even own Nexus 7 yet, and I am still debating whether or not to get one, but this is obviously trolling. Same power as the Kindle Fire that doesn't even have Bluetooth? On what planet? Lol

Love those who join a forum just to post how they dislike something, and then never to be seen again.
Mine goes everywhere with me. I don't take pictures with a 1.2MP camera (what is this, 1998?)

Almost the entire list of "missing features" were never even speculated to be in this tablet. You fail at being a smart consumer. I chuckled. Was a joke, right?

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trolling...
please close thread

Trigger the trolls and go spend 500+ on a "new" iPad. My unit is a bad ass peace of tech, I'm not going to answer every problem you stated because you don't seek out solutions to these "problems".
Once I get my new phone (current one wont recognize USB connection) I'm tethering like a mofo.

Sounds like a one post iTroll.

Just buy an iPad and go away from this forum.
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I mean, you could always just google Nexus 7.

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[PROJECT] Making a custom Back with cooling

Hello people of xda.....
I'm thinking of making a custom back for the nexus 7 that would remove lots of heat
what it would do is snap on where the old back went and would have
the back, printed on a 3d printer accurate to 2/100"
A 1 1/4" fan from radioshack
a rechargeable 9v battery
a switch for the fan
possible power and volume buttons
this case would be used for those of us who extreme overclock ex running at 1.6ghz with the gpu at 520 who want to rid of some heat.
WHAT THIS CASE WOULD NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wifi antenna
gps antenna
bluetooth antenna
Let me know if you would like to get in on this
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jombo2323 said:
Hello people of xda.....
I'm thinking of making a custom back for the nexus 7 that would remove lots of heat
what it would do is snap on where the old back went and would have
the back, printed on a 3d printer accurate to 2/100"
A 1 1/4" fan from radioshack
a rechargeable 9v battery
a switch for the fan
possible power and volume buttons
this case would be used for those of us who extreme overclock ex running at 1.6ghz with the gpu at 520 who want to rid of some heat.
WHAT THIS CASE WOULD NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wifi antenna
gps antenna
bluetooth antenna
Let me know if you would like to get in on this
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Why not to that extreme, what about a slimmer back with USB OTG built in and a slot for the USB, where u insert a small one and can cover it.
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tandeh said:
Why not to that extreme, what about a slimmer back with USB OTG built in and a slot for the USB, where u insert a small one and can cover it.
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Wow, thats a good idea, but it would have to go over the top a little in order to plug the connector in.

A USB OTG built in case, with a cooling system?! Count me in!

Count me in as well!
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what would you pay for something like this? it would be like 15$ for materials (Battery and fan and switch) plus an unknown amount for the otg cable that works.

Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included

ajpettit said:
Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included
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you almost made me **** my pants laughing.
but seriously, who would pay for one?

ajpettit said:
Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included
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I'm sorry, but I have the 8gb, coming from the Acer A500, and this is exactly how I feel right now, :/ I filled my storage up with nothing but apps, and still wanna get some more apps, and not a rear camera, ugh.

Brandonxcore said:
I'm sorry, but I have the 8gb, coming from the Acer A500, and this is exactly how I feel right now, :/ I filled my storage up with nothing but apps, and still wanna get some more apps, and not a rear camera, ugh.
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uh, you are aware hes not advertising what im talking about right?
im making a cover/caseish thing hes just bein funny XD

jombo2323 said:
uh, you are aware hes not advertising what im talking about right?
im making a cover/caseish thing hes just bein funny XD
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Sorry to go off topic, haha, anyways, my tablet doesn't get hot, I think the best thing for you to do is just add more copper to the existing heat sink, airflow will only drag dust into the tablet.

Just went and grabbed my hefty set of dial calipers! time to start modeling!
And also, i might put a small and thin filter (very small pores) inbetween the case and the fan but i think as long as you dont kick it under the fridge while the fan is on i think it would be all right
in order to hold onto the tablet without copying googles latches..... im afraid to say that
the back will have to come above the edge of the tablet and snap over the top just a little hopefully though. should solve the not level with the bezel screen issue that is stock. win win
EDIT* Facepalm, my calipers dont go above 6in how did i not see that coming....
how to measure corner Radius anyone?

Bumpity
Can someone find me a small, compatible usb otg cable that i can put in here and mount?

jombo2323 said:
Just went and grabbed my hefty set of dial calipers! time to start modeling!
And also, i might put a small and thin filter (very small pores) inbetween the case and the fan but i think as long as you dont kick it under the fridge while the fan is on i think it would be all right
in order to hold onto the tablet without copying googles latches..... im afraid to say that
the back will have to come above the edge of the tablet and snap over the top just a little hopefully though. should solve the not level with the bezel screen issue that is stock. win win
EDIT* Facepalm, my calipers dont go above 6in how did i not see that coming....
how to measure corner Radius anyone?
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You can try to get official/accurate specs from Asus or from a case manufacturer.

veeman said:
You can try to get official/accurate specs from Asus or from a case manufacturer.
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in my dreams.
anyways i just made a shell of what the case should look like for it to fit inside
now time to add vents and the fan mount area!
Just an update for some people....
a standard rechargeable 9v battery would run the fan for about an hour and a half
if i put 2 in there, it would make it balanced and give about 3 to 3.5 hours of fan life (about what you get with a fully overclocked kernel)
so what will it be, 1 or 2?
if you used non rechargeable 9v's you would get about 5.5 hours of fan life, 2 would get you 11 which would be good

So more development has happened
got the case "complete" afak until i can print a prototype which is a week or so
i know its a bit thick, but what do you want from 2 9v's and a fan?
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!

ajpettit said:
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that is amazing... lol
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jombo2323 said:
So more development has happened
got the case "complete" afak until i can print a prototype which is a week or so
link to a picture http://puu.sh/V7KP
i know its a bit thick, but what do you want from 2 9v's and a fan?
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!
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This does look quite nice I do kinda like the ability to use NFC though and have an overall lightweight device, but perhaps something like this would be nice on a stand instead? Then I can put my N7 on the stand, do some benchmarking, games, whatever else I want, and then when I want to travel, I simply take the back off and go back stock.

jombo2323 said:
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!
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Honestly? I think you're wasting your time and everyone else's. No-one is going to buy something like that to cool a gadget that doesn't even get hot in a case, which brings up another point, where would you find a case to fit your souped up N7 afterwards?
There has to be a more worthy project for you to spend your time and money on.

Troute said:
Honestly? I think you're wasting your time and everyone else's. No-one is going to buy something like that to cool a gadget that doesn't even get hot in a case, which brings up another point, where would you find a case to fit your souped up N7 afterwards?
There has to be a more worthy project for you to spend your time and money on.
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A lot of people here flash custom kernels to overclock their CPU to 1.64 GHz. In this instance, the device can get noticeably hotter after heavy usage...so this case will serve a purpose for some. Also, I believe the OP plans on integrating an inbuilt OTG mount, who wouldn't want that?!

Why don't you put a radiator, pump, and reservoir for kicks? A water-cooled tablet would be crazy badass!
Pardon the sarcasm. I believe people will be more interested in a built-in usb hub. Slap in a micro sd card reader in one port and 3 fullsize female usb in the other (for keyboard, mouse, portable drive, sixaxis controller, etc.). No more lack of sd card slot problem. Of course it will need a little tweak by swapping the mount points of the internal and the external sdcards, but it is doable.
If you want, instead of a micro sd, you can go for a multi card reader so the users will have options. Pictures or videos in the storage card can be viewed, edited, saved, or emailed from their dslr's straight to the tablet for example. The possibilities are endless.
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What to do with my N1???

Hey, I have had a Galaxy SII for a while now and use it as my main phone but just couldn't bring myself to sell my Sexy Nexy. So, it is still laying around, being used as an MP3 player during the rare occasions I actually go out to exercise. But besides that it is just collecting dust, which I hate. I was wondering if anyone else has been in this situation and thought of a creative way to still use their N1s.
I don't know have VOIP works but maybe something like using their nexus for a phone, or home phone even, only through wifi? Not sure if you have to have a SIM card in for that or not.
Or maybe something more creative? Just seeing what people have done out there.

Sell it to meeeee!!!! Good luck on S2
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Like you I use mine as an MP3 Player, but I keep it in my car and connect it to my stereo. I also cant bring myself to get rid of it, but Ive painted mine so nobody would buy it anyway (even though its a beautiful paint job)

nickL0V3 said:
Like you I use mine as an MP3 Player, but I keep it in my car and connect it to my stereo. I also cant bring myself to get rid of it, but Ive painted mine so nobody would buy it anyway (even though its a beautiful paint job)
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I am doing the same thing. Also trying to figure out the easiest way to turn Wi-Fi tethering on when I get in the car so the N1 can connect to it and then I can use it for VOIP calls and texts as well as an mp3 player in the car.

Frame that SOB.

It's still great as a spare. Like say when you're out on the beer and don't want to loose your newest love . Unless of course you like to show that one off
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cpm said:
It's still great as a spare. Like say when you're out on the beer and don't want to loose your newest love . Unless of course you like to show that one off
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Yea mine doubles as a spare. whenever my gf breaks her phone I give her my Sensation and use my N1.
she never understands why I dont just give her the N1. Im just looking for any excuse to play with it again
Im considering selling my sensation and just using the N1 though. Sensation gets like 5 hours of light use, the N1 gets a day and a half of heavy

nickL0V3 said:
Like you I use mine as an MP3 Player, but I keep it in my car and connect it to my stereo. I also cant bring myself to get rid of it, but Ive painted mine so nobody would buy it anyway (even though its a beautiful paint job)
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Can we see a picture? I want to paint mine too. I used to have a Desire and I sanded the paint off and polished it, looked really cool that way.

350Rocket said:
Can we see a picture? I want to paint mine too. I used to have a Desire and I sanded the paint off and polished it, looked really cool that way.
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this is from the day I reassembled it. its looking a little dinged up these days, so Im going to be re-painting soon and Im looking for color suggestions.
I used metal/plastic adhering spray paint and a lot of wet sanding. The battery door isnt perfect but I got another one to try again with. The aluminum part was easy to sand down (dremel) but the plastic is just a little less forgiving so there are some places I bit a little too deep.
but I love it. I occasionally use it as my primary phone and it always turns heads
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That is pretty cool. I would like to do the same but with a different color. Unfortunately it's my only phone.
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this is from the day I reassembled it. its looking a little dinged up these days, so Im going to be re-painting soon and Im looking for color suggestions.
I used metal/plastic adhering spray paint and a lot of wet sanding. The battery door isnt perfect but I got another one to try again with. The aluminum part was easy to sand down (dremel) but the plastic is just a little less forgiving so there are some places I bit a little too deep.
but I love it. I occasionally use it as my primary phone and it always turns heads
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Ye anot only is it my spare phone, I have 3 housings for it, so I can get one painted and ready while the N1 is still all put together.
Im actually working on a new one right now but Im not sure what colors I want

Please post pictures of the repaint. I'm thinking once I have some extra money, buying a second housing and repainting it and having the local repair shop install it for me. I like the phone enough to hang onto it if I can make it a bit unique. Maybe I should wait until something breaks? AFAIK power button has never been replaced and so far works perfect, going on 3 years old this April. No signs of any other problems so far but who knows? I try to never use the USB port for charging to keep it from wearing out.
nickL0V3 said:
Ye anot only is it my spare phone, I have 3 housings for it, so I can get one painted and ready while the N1 is still all put together.
Im actually working on a new one right now but Im not sure what colors I want
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350Rocket said:
Please post pictures of the repaint. I'm thinking once I have some extra money, buying a second housing and repainting it and having the local repair shop install it for me. I like the phone enough to hang onto it if I can make it a bit unique. Maybe I should wait until something breaks? AFAIK power button has never been replaced and so far works perfect, going on 3 years old this April. No signs of any other problems so far but who knows? I try to never use the USB port for charging to keep it from wearing out.
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Will do. Im trying something a little dfifferent this time so if it sucks I probably will re-paint again before posting so it may be a while. but if this doesnt look terrible I should be done with it soon

I'm not into the bright colors a whole lot, I was considering flat black, or blue or red, but not sure yet. Maybe you could sell me one of your housings? If I try to attempt the work myself I will need to buy another phone to use for a few days while I work on it.

an update is still coming guys, Im about to have a kid and things have been a little hectic getting ready for him, so I may be delayed a while, but it is coming

I also want to use my N1 as MP3 player in my car. But I once used a SGS2 as MP3 in my car and the music quality is just so much better. Are there any ROM/Mod/Apps to enhance the music of my N1? Currently using Evervolv 4.2 for my N1(a great ROM btw).
And that's a very nice paint job there! Impressive!

ultima888 said:
I also want to use my N1 as MP3 player in my car. But I once used a SGS2 as MP3 in my car and the music quality is just so much better. Are there any ROM/Mod/Apps to enhance the music of my N1? Currently using Evervolv 4.2 for my N1(a great ROM btw).
And that's a very nice paint job there! Impressive!
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You could try HyperSense Nova, which has some impressive sound codecs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604957
CM ROMS have DSP Manager for sound effects too. You might wanna check those out. Try VJ's CM 10.1 (4.1.2)

The galaxy s2 has terrible audio quality for music compared to the nexus one and desire. The original galaxy had good sound quality when set up right with voodoo mods. DSP manager as well as power amp are good for sound quality. I use both.
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Getting bored with android...talk me out of buying a surface

Been looking at surface rt for fun. They are peaking my curiosity. Kinda bored with android, I had my nexus 7 for 7 months now and its great. Why would I not want to buy a surface rt? They sure are dropping in price fast on craigslist, even the dell xps 10 is now 249-299 brand new with free keyboard covers....... Am I crazy to want a rt?

Should not need to be talked out of anything. If you have the relevent info for both, than get what makes you happy. It is you that has to deal with it, not anyone else.
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Then get a Surface. You don't need our permission.

If you are bored with Android, then you are not going to be happy with Windows.
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DroidRunner said:
If you are bored with Android, then you are not going to be happy with Windows.
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As far as I'm concerned, "Friends don't let friends buy Windows tablets". At least not now.
I had an RT tablet provided by my office for about a month. They bought one for everyone here because of the integrated Office and the keyboard cover, and they figured it would make everyone's lives easier.
It didn't turn out that way.
I'm not going to crap all over Windows 8/RT, because there are a lot of really good things about it and the build quality of the tablet is mostly nice.
But the three biggest problems:
1. The build quality of the soft cover is poor. In less than a month several of us had the soft cover split along the seams. It typed well, but you still had to be careful, because if you didn't hit the key properly sometimes it wouldn't take. On the whole a lot more work than a real keyboard.
2. Office is there, but it's a lot more awkward to use than I thought it would be. Sure, there shortcuts, but the need to pick your finger up to touch the screen all them time really slows you down. Something I'd eventually get used to, I'm sure, but it wasn't easy.
3. There really AREN'T any apps for Windows RT. Sure there are some, and there are apps that are supposed to do many other things, they just aren't the options I would have picked if there was choice. But the things I love tablets for are the apps and they just aren't there.
I also was really disappointed with how much real memory was left after the OS was taken into account. I would have had to manage my media constantly to make it work for me. Again, possible, but not worth it.
After a month our IT group took them back from everyone and said they were looking for another solution.
So, if you're bored with Android, you maybe should try a Windows Tablet, they aren't boring and they will keep you busy, just maybe not for the right reasons.

^thanks man. Solid points. I think I will wait for the new nexus 7. Glad you have a good response unlike the other posters here. I was concerned about the availability of apps for rt. And I'm thinking developers won't hop on board since it seems to be a hard sell and small user base.

Friend has an RT, I have a nexus 7.
Biggest thing is just the feel. I can pull out my nexus 7 and I have my app drawer full of games, customisable homescreen, many apps and things to play with. It's a fun tablet.
When I play with my friend's RT though, after exploring the start menu and desktop, there isn't really much. Games are lacking (except for the big names like jetpack joyride and other popular games), and there's nothing "fun" to do. The desktop is kind of empty, as it can't run windows apps, so pretty much the only thing that populates the desktop is the internet explorer and my computer icon, and assorted computer folders.
However, the RT does win the nexus 7 in many points. Productivity wise, it's brilliant. Microsoft office works really well, and split screen multitasking is cool. If you get the type cover, it becomes a mini laptop that can run all your office apps. The nexus 7 can never catch up unless a better office app shows up on the market.
So now it depends on whether you prefer fun, or productivity.

Sell it and get the Surface then.

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I just got my N7 last week. Still have no case since there's many choices regarding online but less in stores.
There's a slimline moku and another case I'm torn between.
I also got a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard for typing but not really loving it just yet.
Any who anyone find a keyboard / case solution they are happy with?
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mrazndead said:
Been looking at surface rt for fun. They are peaking my curiosity. Kinda bored with android, I had my nexus 7 for 7 months now and its great. Why would I not want to buy a surface rt? They sure are dropping in price fast on craigslist, even the dell xps 10 is now 249-299 brand new with free keyboard covers....... Am I crazy to want a rt?
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Are you kidding? I've had the opportunity to try a Surface RT, and was happy to give it back to the lender... if you're looking for a windows experience, forget it. It doesn't run any standard Windows programs... the apps it does have are a limited number. The interface is confusing and counterintuitive, and for God's sake, the price is well above what something of its caliberr should run.

I have two cases... and I like both for different reasons.
EeyoreSyndrome said:
I just got my N7 last week. Still have no case since there's many choices regarding online but less in stores.
There's a slimline moku and another case I'm torn between.
I also got a Bluetooth Logitech keyboard for typing but not really loving it just yet.
Any who anyone find a keyboard / case solution they are happy with?
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My main case is a leather portfolio style, with the magnets on the cover for auto on and off. It's the standard go to and there are lots around like it. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=4882380
But my secondary case, which I use for working and productivity was a real find. I bought it off of a recommendation from talkandroid
http://www.talkandroid.com/147462-n...ooks-great-lasts-long-and-costs-little-video/
it was cheap, so I bought it and it works way better than I ever expected in a situation where I need a keyboard. When it's closed it looks great too. You can't really tell from the pictures but the keyboard fits on top of the Nexus 7 to create a kind of hard clamshell for the top of the unit. It's made in a silver plastic with dots that matches perfectly with the tablet.
Unfortunately I have to choose between the cases, I can't use both at once.

PMOttawa said:
My main case is a leather portfolio style, with the magnets on the cover for auto on and off. It's the standard go to and there are lots around like it. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=4882380
But my secondary case, which I use for working and productivity was a real find. I bought it off of a recommendation from talkandroid
http://www.talkandroid.com/147462-n...ooks-great-lasts-long-and-costs-little-video/
it was cheap, so I bought it and it works way better than I ever expected in a situation where I need a keyboard. When it's closed it looks great too. You can't really tell from the pictures but the keyboard fits on top of the Nexus 7 to create a kind of hard clamshell for the top of the unit. It's made in a silver plastic with dots that matches perfectly with the tablet.
Unfortunately I have to choose between the cases, I can't use both at once.
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I also have on of those keyboard covers. They are such great value for money. And the rechargeable battery for keyboard lasts me literally months off a single charge!
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I would get a Surface Pro... if it wasn't so expensive.

If you're bored with android....with all you can do to them.....good luck with anything else.
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Go get a surface. Someone had to buy one eventually..
Don't expect much thou... There are no apps, it's a battery hog, chock full of manufacturing problems, it won't run windows apps (despite the branding).

surface sucks.
done:victory:

I've heard bad things about surface too, like build quality and that the touch screen isn't so good. About apps, you can pay a visit to windows market place yourself to see.
I'd suggest another option, one of those hybrid tablet/laptops running x86 windows 8.
At the very least, you can run bluestacks or virtual android on it, and have a fully functional PC which transforms into android if you need it.
Of course it's a bit more expensive, but it's not like they are giving surfaces away for free.
I've been getting bored with android too, but that's the phone, I'm keeping my N7 forever
I might get a Lumia instead of my Xperia though.

I really want(ed) a Windows 8 tablet, too.
My problem is that there doesn't seem to be many good x86 ones. There's some meh-priced RT tablets but Windows RT is immensely more limited.
I've completely held off from getting a Windows x86 tablet because every damned one I try out in Future Shop and Best Buy with the Atom are slow, sluggish, freeze often and just seem laggy as hell.
I'm avoiding them all for now, and eyeballing Acer's upcoming 8 inch x86 Windows tablet which may be cheaper and has a small form factor like my N7.

I'm personally waiting a year or two for them to smooth things out. The hardware is too overpriced for what you get and having legacy x86 applications isn't that great when they're not meant for touch. Windows RT is also a joke unless they let devs compile for the desktop. They're totally cool though but not good enough for me.
Hopefully Android x86 will also mature by then so I don't have to give up the ecosystem.