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I am stuck between Incredible S and Xperia Neo cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Wave and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but HDMI and camera is good on Neo.
Kindly suggest me which one should i get ?
It's got to be the IS, Sony phones feel so plastic and cheap when you use them, even the screens feel like they're made of plastic, i know the back of the IS is plastic but that's it, at least it feels solid when you hold it.
You can customise the UI to almost anything, it never lags, it's very fast for browsing and it's light, it's a freaking awesome phone
Thanks for the reply, can you use LED Flash with video on IS ?
Yes you can!
Thanks a lot for the replies, am sure getting IS.
Xperia Neo is S-OFF with unlocked bootloader. IS isn't.
If I were you, I will get SE Xperia Neo instead. HTC is crab with this bootloader locked. You can't do much with this crab.
I regret getting this IS which I am not able to change ROM. Furthermore, you will get bored with this HTC Sense crab. Nothing much.
Also, IS phone signal is very weak. I always have signal drop till no network. I have Moto Milestone compare side by side, MM never has this problem. Same provider, network but this IS is ****.
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't you do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Neo so I can't compare the two two, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the arc is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing oi would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
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The IS is a great phone definitely get a case for it I have an OtterBox for mine works awesome. As l0st.prophet said you should have done the research before buying it I work at Virgin Mobile and I knew before buying it with my 30% discount that it couldn't be rooted yet but that time will come. The xperia neo i wont think will have a big following go for the arc or play if u want a sony device.
Otherwise stick with the IS great phone takes amazing pictures and is pretty damn fast specially compared to my Blackberry 9780. Only issue i have is the radio seems week and I don't get as good as a signal with it as I did with my Blackberry 9780.
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Because some people are only happy when they're complaining, if they could install another ROM they only come on here to ***** about how their wifi don't work, they can't take pictures properly, etc, etc, etc ,etc
Is this ROMs/Bootloader thing really necessary to have ? I mean the factory ROMS arnt worth it or what, does it have bugs ? Does it Lags ?
SGSII was my first choice but it is very expensive and isnt durable at all plastic body and very thin, i like SLCD on IS much better screen, speed, camera, battery, durability, games, thats all i want on a phone and i guess IS has it all, doesnt matter to me if it is locked on unlocked as it will be my first time with Android i dont have any idea about these things.
Arc is also expensive, IS and Neo are the only mobile phones (i guess) in this price range which are rich in features.
I will be getting the Neo. Camera and esspecially video is much better and of course HDMI out port is awesome. I dont like capacitive buttons (esspecially if their lightning is crappy).
xperia is way better
neo is just awesome i have it !!!!!!!!
my dad has the is its good but neo nails the **** out of it
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I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't you do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Neo so I can't compare the two two, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the arc is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing oi would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
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I agree with you but consider this - MOST of us want to help, but don't have the skills to actually provide any help. We all are impatiently waiting to get ROOT, flash ROMs and KERNELs, that we forget that it's not easy to find exploits, especially when a company like HTC spent so much money on creating the flag in the first place. (PS - What's the status on the exploit???)
Now, about the phones - the bootloader is the ONLY ONE FEATURE IN NEO, and that doesn't mean squat unless you wanna root, which I'm pretty sure you won't be doing, whereas the IS has a gr8 body, HTC Sense(which beats the crap outta sony's UI), and loads of other stuff. GET THAT FOR SURE !!!!!!!!
What about the samsung infuse
I would personally stay away from all Sony Xperia series phones. I own an Arc and can't stand the way it handles memory. They all look good spec wise. Unfortunately they don't live up to expectations (at least in my opinion). I have 2 Incredible S and they perform way better. If you don't like SenseUI, you can just use a custom rom.
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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I went from a Galaxy Nexus to a Nexus 4, then had the same decision as you.
In terms of screen, the HTC One's has better viewing angles, no doubt about it, so does the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. In actual usage, on the latest firmware that improves blacks, it doesn't really matter that much. When actually looking at images, I compared the screens side by side and the Xperia Z seems to have a sharpness or vibrancy that the HTC One's doesnt. I really think the reviews overcook the view angle issue, it nearly put me off.
If you're used to the on screen buttons of AOSP, then I think the HTC one would be really irritating. That was a major factor for me, the quick swipe up from the middle launch of google now is also retained on the Xperia Z.
I found the HTC One difficult to hold, the edges seemed really sharp and hard, and the phone was quite slippery. At the same time the Xperia Z is also quite uncomfortable, but it doesn't feel like it is going to slide out of your hand. The power button placement is also much better on the Xperia Z.
The speaker is definitely much better on the HTC One, that said, the Nexus 4 is much better than the Galaxy Nexus, and the Xperia Z's speaker sounds better than the Nexus 4. So the Xperia Z isn't bad. I hold my phone with my left hand so it doesn't block the speaker, but if you hold your phone with your right hand and play music, then you will muffle the speaker.
I'm sure the HTC One is slightly faster due to newer processor but I don't think this matters that much, both will be fast.
I disliked sense 5 coming from AOSP, hated not being able to remove blink feed (find it really frustrating even though you can move it to a different home screen). The Sony customisations are actually an improvement on AOSP, things which frustrate me are fixed and also there are some other nice additions like location based wifi, bravia engine, wifi syncing with media go. The Sony Gallery called Albums is much much better than AOSP, the Walkman app is really good as is the Movies app. I never used built in apps before but I do here, I haven't installed MX Player.
The better camera in good light is undoubtedly the Xperia Z. I'm an amateur photographer (although street photographer so not much of a pixel peeper) and I'm impressed with the Xperia Z. Again the Nexus 4 is a step up from the Galaxy Nexus and the Xperia Z is much better. I haven't taken many pictures low light but I won't argue that the HTC One will provide better photos, the HTC also takes better videos and has Zoe which is cool (was one of the reasons the HTC One was attractive to me). Front camera is better on the Xperia Z than either the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4, the HTC One's is wider than the Z's if that matters to you.
The battery life I've been seeing has been pretty good, eg, if you're playing an mp4 film, I was seeing about 25% drop for 2 hours of watching the film. It's much better than the Nexus 4 which is a bit better than the Galaxy Nexus. Apparently the HTC One has a better battery life, I've never tested it though.
The Xperia Z has Micro SD slot which is great for music and films, I missed that owning the recent Nexus phones.
The last major point is the Xperia Z is water resistant, which is priceless, not because I want to take it under water but because it's nice having a life proof phone that you don't have to worry touching when you have wet hands or worried that rain will get into etc. It's a relaxing phone to own.
I only got the phone last weekend, the HTC One was the same price and I'm very happy with the phone and that I made the right choice for me.
Well thanks for that really in depth review. The more I think about it, the more I really want the Xperia. The water resistance factor hit me today while missing several calls walking through a downpour. I'm sure no matter what I end up getting, it will still be a step up from the gnex (which isn't actually in need of replacing, I'd just like something new). Hopefully T-Mobile releases the phone soon as the leaks suggest. I think I'd rather pay monthly for it than fork over the 500+ now. Thanks again
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Well thanks for that really in depth review. The more I think about it, the more I really want the Xperia. The water resistance factor hit me today while missing several calls walking through a downpour. I'm sure no matter what I end up getting, it will still be a step up from the gnex (which isn't actually in need of replacing, I'd just like something new). Hopefully T-Mobile releases the phone soon as the leaks suggest. I think I'd rather pay monthly for it than fork over the 500+ now. Thanks again
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The best you could do is to actually go to a shop and play with those two phones for some time and then decide.
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Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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I expect the development community that it will continue to develop and grow larger with more mods.
This is one good things about the Z.
The screen on my Xperia Z is completely fine and I don't notice any problems with it
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Agree completely with uberlaggydarwin.
Fact is, compared to most (non-Nexus perhaps) phones. Much more actual development gets done such as actual "fixes" for problems and not just hacky workarounds. We still have a way to go towards complete AOSP, theres one or two driver blobs still required for example, and a few minor bugs. But with (almost) every day that passes there are new platform-specific patches submitted to the CyanogenMod device repo on github and if I'm reading them correctly we have already, or will very soon, have a blob-less driver powering WiFi.
I must say, coming from a non-Nexus device it is a relief to see this much actual development and not just WinZip-wielding 10yr olds mashing together ROMs with 10,000 unnecessary hacks that make them laggy and/or unstable.
...a little torn on the screen though. As everyone is saying it is beautiful to look at from the front and probably (from this angle) the best mobile screen I have used, but again, as mentioned, the viewing angles are sub-optimal.
Too add my egg to the basket... I too am coming from a Gnex, which i loved. Been owning the XZ for roughly 3 months now. The screen angle thingy is definitely exaggerated. The colours and the viewing angles will take some getting used to, coming from an amoled screen, but the sharpness and clarity definitely make the transition much more pleasant.
The camera is undoubtedly much much better then on the Gnex, which was my only gripe with it. As to the HTC, I would wager the XZ one better for my taste, but thats only based on reviews, no hands on :/
The battery life has been stable enough for me, for my use... they both lasted about 2 days, Gnex maybe a bit better, HTC again cannot comment.
As far as the build quality... there have been some issues if u read the forms and from my case - the flap on the charging port doesn't wanna stay closed anymore In this case I would say HTC is better. It also prefers on your design preferences.
For me, leaving my Gnex behind for the XZ was actually not that hard of a step. U will have to get used to less development as compared to the nexus devices but that doesn't mean there isn't any. Free xperia team are awesome and CM is coming along nicely and with it a whole bunch of other roms, from PAC, PA, AOKP and independent AOSP projects, so no fear there
In any case, ull get a wonderfull new phone, whichever u choose and I hope u enjoy it!
I guess in terms of development, I definitely prefer actual dev work over tons of roms that are almost the same. Out of curiosity, any soft key mods yet? I have mine set to RECENTS HOME BACK and having been like this for almost 2 years I'd rather not have to relearn default (honestly minor issue I'm just being picky).
I would love to go to the store and compare them as someone has said, but I can't find anywhere local that sells the Xperia Z.
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Even since the update the screen on the z has been great and really great to see in bright sunlight how I noticed today using it in sunlight yeah Germany didn't had the best weather as of late lol anyway I also don't think the viewing angle are a huge deal. I still see just fine what is on the display and actually Sony here in Berlin told me that the viewing angle is extra made a little darker so not everyone just can look and see stuff that easy on the screen if u don't want them too. Even so I think the viewing angle o's fine. Never had any issues seeing anything. Battery has been great as long as not being used with mobile data. All phones seem to get sucked dry in no time using Mobile data. At home with WiFi I can easily get 2 days.
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Any idea what kind of battery life you guys get with mobile data enabled? I currently get about 16 hours with 2.5ish hours of screen on time with my gnex.
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With my Gnex I get about the same as you. 2,5-3 hours of screen on time per day on auto-brightness. With my Xperia Z I can get 4-5 hours of screen time per day, depending on brightness (0%) and usage. With auto-brightness I get like 3 hours per day. But with light usage I can easily make it trough 2 days with my Z. My Gnex never lasts that long, even when I almost don't use it.
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Any idea what kind of battery life you guys get with mobile data enabled? I currently get about 16 hours with 2.5ish hours of screen on time with my gnex.
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crimson12 said:
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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XZ and HTC one is neck and neck for me, I dont like sense one bit, havent touch the device but i had prior HTC devices and I can tell ya sense really suck other wise i think the HTC one won in every aspect. if you looking to go CM10.1 then i would go HTC one if you looking to stay stock i would choose XZ.
P.S I dont like the physical key either damn samsung for starting that in the S3
I am kind of new to android, and just got my Z. But one thing i can say is: Phoning while showering is so chilled.
Why haven't I thought of this?! You're a genius mate, gonna do that tonight! Lols
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Battery life on data is not that good actually. Well I would say when listening music. Somehow the mediaserver always comes with on and even after turning off music it still drains the battery. Just a reboot fixes that. Listen barely to music on the phone anymore.
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Battery life on data is not that good actually. Well I would say when listening music. Somehow the mediaserver always comes with on and even after turning off music it still drains the battery. Just a reboot fixes that. Listen barely to music on the phone anymore.
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That's really unfortunate. I primarily use Spotify on my phone for several hours a day.
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I'm having a blast with my Xperia Z.
Lots of fantastic ROMS in development...
Never noticed anything with regards to "viewing angles" i'm one of these freaks that tends to look at my phone head on.
With my own custom setup and settings i'm getting a full days use out of my phone.
I'm getting a whole day's battery life with heavy usage. Internet, Web, Whatsapp, Youtube, Camera etc.
Some people submerse their phones and have no problem, but i'm happy jsut treating my phone as resistant not proof.
I can reply to text messages in the bath with wet hands etc.
Build quality is fantastic. The best out at the minute i feel. Feels like a slab of glass! :fingers-crossed:
If you get one, buy a dock straight away, saves wear and tear on your charging ports.flaps.
I did that right away with my XZ when i bought it dock to charge,back n front glas protection this baby is amazing especially the White one my friend asked me to traid it for his Htc One,guess what,nop i said
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I guess thread title says it all...
In next few days I'm about to sell my dear Arc S, and I'm undecided between three phones:
Ion, T and V, with T being the most probable option.
Now, this might sound as a newbie question, which I'm not, but I would appreciate as many opinions as I can get.
Regarding choices, I'm in love with Ion's build quality, but on the other hand T and V are more recent phones, and therefore will probably have a bit longer life regarding updates. I love Xperia T design much more than V, but on the other side, removable battery and water resistance, heh...
This is really a tough call.
(Xperia SP was also a choice, but I will rather buy older flagship device than newer mid-ranger).
So, any word will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I'm from Arc S to TX. After i just bought my TX I feel Wow! don't need to suffer for internal memory and I still remember everytime I jump out from apps to homescreen, it takes time to load the icon and content. Mmm.. So far I'm satisfied with my TX. Nowadays 1GB of ram consider just enough for average user like me so couldn't expect that much on your Xperia T too.
you coming from arc s? so i guess you like the arc design? you want a good relation smartphonesize-displaysize? and a low prize phone (how much in sarajevo? Germany around 270euro) ?
you like flashing custom roms, you like play around? check the forum sections
maybe then go with xperia T (CM Support, PAC Support, some other Port Roms, Miui v5, some stock based Roms, many Mods)
how save is the V waterproof feature? is it necessary to have that?
thats some questions i would ask myself if i want buy a new phone. (by the way theres a guessing around the net XT can maybe get 4.3 directly, skippin 4.2.2, but not 100%sure)
by the way i not have that icon loading problem joonlin write about. it would be a decent update
a little subjective end note from myself:
you want handgasms? then take the T
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I love arc(h) design, that's the main reason I bought Arc S in the first place.
Yes, I care a lot about display size (and bezel size corelation), as I don't want a chocolade in my hands.
The price is basically the same then. It's about 520-540KM in sarajevo, which is about 270 Euros.
Of course the V's water-proof is not a killer feature to me, but removable battery is. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, I don't know.
Like I said, Xperia T is the most probable option, and I already even ordered Nillkin case for it, from eBay.
I will report in next few days what I have bought. If I decide to go with T, then white one would be my preference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BtXZiVLtWc
maybe video like this help with the paranoid thoughts?
in worst case scenario you can change or let change the battery, also its possible to change backcover (there some shops in internet who sell custom backcovers)
heres a video with ion/T comparison (german, but you can see it in hands then )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_yJnAP9DEk
I'm not afraid of disassembling the phone. I disassembled probably every piece of electronics/phones I ever had.
I just thought it's a bit easier to deal with all kinds of bricking and freezings of phone, when you have a removable battery, but I guess thats's part of paranoia too.
I guess it's clear then. T it's gonna be, 99%.
And one more thing to ask. Some reviews are mentioning that flap covering microSD and microSIM is a bit messy.
Like, once you open it, you never really get to close it ideally again. I guess this is not entirely true?
Aso, based on video comparison above, Ion seems to have a bit brighter display, with better viewing angles. But ok, this is not a dealbraker to me.
I upgraded to the T from the arc (not s). Arc was a awesome phone, with a fast and fluid ui (on gb) and a great camera. Ive used the arc for almost 2 years and i've had my T for 5 months now.
The T is a worthy upgrade, the phone is faster, i like the jellybean firmware and the screen is a big upgrade from arc. Also the 1gb ram is a big relieve since my arc would always run low on ram. The batterylife is also quite a lot better.
When i first got the T i thought it was pretty thick but thats actually kind of nice. The T feels more stable in your hand because of its thickness and rubber back. The arc felt a little fragile (which it wasn't, i must have dropped that phone like a million times and its still alive)
The only thing which is not an upgrade in my opinion is the camera. It's a good camera but the arc camera was simply amazing.
I didnt go for the latest flagship because it was to expensive. My friends have the htc one, xperia z and lumia 920 and this phone doesnt feel outdated compared to those phones. I also think sony has the best looking no nonsense smartphone software.
So yes, upgrade to T
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I upgraded to the T from the arc (not s). Arc was a awesome phone... The T is a worthy upgrade, the phone is faster, i like the jellybean firmware and the screen is a big upgrade from arc... The T feels more stable in your hand because of its thickness and rubber back. The arc felt a little fragile... The arc camera was simply amazing.
I didnt go for the latest flagship because it was to expensive... I also think sony has the best looking no nonsense smartphone software.
So yes, upgrade to T...
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This is basically the sum up of my current thoughts too.
Yes, Arc S was an amazing, and beautiful phone before anything else. And yes, it's having a great camera. And yes, it feels fragile, but it's not actually. Back cover is lame quality though.
And yes, the T (and Ion) feels heavier but it's a good thing. And I love T's design also, more than Ion's or V's.
And the same thing, I don't have enough money for Z or ZR now, and if I happen to have, I would question myself about buying Z. It's too big and too slippery, and too fingerprintable for my taste.
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This is basically the sum up of my current thoughts too.
Yes, Arc S was an amazing, and beautiful phone before anything else. And yes, it's having a great camera. And yes, it feels fragile, but it's not actually. Back cover is lame quality though.
And yes, the T (and Ion) feels heavier but it's a good thing. And I love T's design also, more than Ion's or V's.
And the same thing, I don't have enough money for Z or ZR now, and if I happen to have, I would question myself about buying Z. It's too big and too slippery, and too fingerprintable for my taste.
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Z is pretty awesome, my friend is really liking the waterproof feature. but its pretty big indeed and my friends Z just broke(probably his own fault, he was throwing his phone around while he was drunk). But ive dropped my T quite a few times and i barely have a scratch. If i had to choose again i would take T again with no doubt. Ive seen a lot of people crying about sony and the jb firmwares on this forum but i dont share their opinion at all. Samsung and htc also aren't that good with upgrades. Samsungs arc comparable phone(galaxy s plus) didnt get a ics upgrade, my gf has the plus and shes stuck with some crappy unstable touchwiz firmware.
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Ive seen a lot of people crying about sony and the jb firmwares on this forum but i dont share their opinion at all. Samsung and htc also aren't that good with upgrades.
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Heh, as 2011 Xperia flagship user, I'm quite familiar with all kind of whinings, cries, swears to never buy Sony again, etc...
To be honest, I was never obsessed with updates. My priorities were fast, functional, and bug-free firmware, so I spent most of my time with Xperia Arc S using stock GingerBread firmware (rooted and debloated).
But it should be said that ICS update for 2011 Xperia line was quite horrible. Creepy slow and full of bugs.
Now, what I don't get from your post is, why are people still crying about JB here? Isn't Xperia T already provided with JB update?
I didn't have time to read these forums throughly, so I don't know what is the feedback about JB yet, but shouldn't it be better than ICS in every way?
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Heh, as 2011 Xperia flagship user, I'm quite familiar with all kind of whinings, cries, swears to never buy Sony again, etc...
To be honest, I was never obsessed with updates. My priorities were fast, functional, and bug-free firmware, so I spent most of my time with Xperia Arc S using stock GingerBread firmware (rooted and debloated).
But it should be said that ICS update for 2011 Xperia line was quite horrible. Creepy slow and full of bugs.
Now, what I don't get from your post is, why are people still crying about JB here? Isn't Xperia T already provided with JB update?
I didn't have time to read these forums throughly, so I don't know what is the feedback about JB yet, but shouldn't it be better than ICS in every way?
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For me everything works great except auto brightness. So for me it is in every way better than ics. But people are whining about batterydrains, slow phones, gaming performance. I havent had any of these problems but i do have to say that i dont use a lot of heavy apps. Mainly whatsapp, chrome, dropbox, 9gag and facebook.
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i upgraded from ARC S to XPERIA TX , and am feeling satisfied , TX has the arc design , it has bigger screen than xperia V , check this comparison from the GSM arena website
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4959&idPhone2=4958
I bought it! :victory:
About hour ago I bought my new beastie boy...
My first impressions are... WOW, just WOW!
Display is huge huge improvement over Arc S, in terms of everything. Colors are amazing, as well as sharpness. UI is beautiful too, probably the best Android skin among all big players, at least for me. Also, build quality seems amazing, and it feels rock solid in hands.
Also, JB came out of the box, version 9.1.A.0.489, and also it already popped me with mesage that new update is available, 9.1.A.1.141.
I guess I should update it, it's only 20-something MBs?
since I'am too considering to switch to one of these xperias i'm in doubt whether T is better than V. V's got a 4G support and is kind of weatherproof. it's also got newer chipset and isn't that alone enough for V to work faster that T? though usb otg is not listed among features this chipset natively supports it and I see no reason for it to be not enabled at least in a custom rom. another thing, the price of SP these days is closing down to that of V or T and it might be even better deal to go for with some 50-60 KM's (~$40) of difference between these models. I was considering even Z but decided to put it on hold until that issue with back glass "ungluing" has been resolved. I do not know how serious that is and do not want to become a victim of a pore design and lack of engineering common sense. i like all three models though, and it seems to be a tough choice what to go for.
As phone design plays a huge role in my decisions when purchasing a new phone, this time Xperia T won for obvious reasons (well, at least to me).
I never liked Xperia V design, not on pictures, and not in real when I compare it with T (or with Ion for that matter).
Yes, Xperia SP is having very close price range, to those of T and V, but still it's a mid-ranger, and somehow I would always choose older flagship over newer mid-ranger, with the same/similar price. But it's just me...
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As phone design plays a huge role in my decisions when purchasing a new phone, this time Xperia T won for obvious reasons (well, at least to me).
I never liked Xperia V design, not on pictures, and not in real when I compare it with T (or with Ion for that matter).
Yes, Xperia SP is having very close price range, to those of T and V, but still it's a mid-ranger, and somehow I would always choose older flagship over newer mid-ranger, with the same/similar price. But it's just me...
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I came from the Arc and got the T, my missus just took delivery of the SP last week. I can catagorically say that the T is a most excellent upgrade to the Arc, but I like the additional items and functionality like the LED bar, slightly sleeker shape of the SP and faster processor. I'd go for the SP in hindsight but would definitely not be disappointed with the T.
Regarding pure aesthetics, I definitely don't regret buying a T and not an SP. Yes, I too like illumination bar of SP, and marginally better hardware specs (what is there to not like about that), but all in all, I think Xperia T is an amazing package, with very affordable price (maybe even underrated compared to some other OEMs devices), and generally an device with much more character to it, than Xperia SP. Like I said, design is beautiful, elegant with some nice accents, and probably the whole world is recognising it as a "Bond phone". While SP is bound to be a mid-ranger for the time being, and will never gain any significant attention probably.
And yeah, T feels rock-solid regarding build quality, something that my last phone, Arc S, was lacking badly (while still being an beautiful device).
Simply, I love my new phone, after merely two days of usage...
Dude, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you made a right choice. Praising a generaly older piece of hardware and crithisizing a new one, just because of your personal affection is not correct. I considered T as well, but opted for SP simply because is a new generation hardware. And even that is to become obsolete quite soon. There are some advantages of T, i agree it's got better camera and more storage, but anyone who want anything resembling a quality photo would go for a real point and shot or even a real dslr device, and storage can be expanded. I already put in a 32gb sdhc clas 10, fast memory with sufficient storage. And design of sp might not be striking, but sure is elegant and atractive. There are those like I am who do not want their phone to look like bannana. No offence ment. It' just personal taste. The rest of the the hardware inside SP is near flagship phones of not just sony, but of sumsung and htc as well. Go and check several tests and reviews, they can't all be wrong. So enjoy your phone but be realistic. While it is a mid-ranger, SP is a device with a lot of potential and if it had 2gb of ram it would be a absolut winner. Still, it has plenty to offer to any kind of user, even the heavy ones, and because being newer generation device it will enjoy longer support, so it was a logical chice for me. While the looks is somewhat conservative it is longlasting, plus i'm not going to take it to bad with me, at least not to make love to it. I'm going to root it and make it do it's job. It is supposed so serve my needs, connectionwise speaking, and it is supposed to do that for some time and i will need that support that SP will have. So good luck andhave a good time
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And yeah, i'm not getting a hard-on watching bond movies.
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Dude, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you made a right choice. Praising a generaly older piece of hardware and crithisizing a new one, just because of your personal affection is not correct.
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And your reply sounded like...? You made my post very laid back and relaxed alike, with this kind of even more biased reply.
I'm not trying to convince anybody anything. I'm simply telling why I made the choice I made. I could have easily gone with your choice if I wanted to, but I didn't wanted (not couldn't).
And yeah, I'm not "getting hard on" watching Bond movies as well, I even don't like them.
I'm just telling that Bond colored marketing campaign helped this phone being desirable and recognisable piece of hardware, a bit more than an "usual" phone, and that's it.
Take it easy friend... SP is great device as well, I might even suggest it to my friend tonight (who's migrating from iPhone soon).
Thats all subjective reasons to choose a phone, of both of you two. its some sort of personal taste. for me mr_torture taste matches also my personal taste.
I believe noone can choose a phone just from objective point of view. because we humans and not robots
And just because a phone is generaly older piece of hardware, means nothing skojevac. Just wanne say :highfive:
If i would buy a phone with your arguments, then i also would not choose the SP, i wouldnt choose any phone with 1GB Ram.:good:
love the banana
the older, the sweeter ahahahaha
Hello guys,what's up?
Im new to the forum,and i would really appreciate it if you help me make up my mind about buying the Z1,I've been reading about it and its features,watching videos and everything but still can't make up my mind as I have never met someone who has been using it and though I don't know how it works in real life.Is it really worth it?What kind of troubles can I face while using it? and the most important question,do you guys think that it's better than the Samsung Galaxy s4? in what way?
You have no idea how much i need your help guys,I ll be so greatful !
Peace
In my opinion it is a very good phone, it has amazing performance, good battery life, beatiful and structured ui, with good light the camera performs well (whit less light only in manuall mode), in my opinion beatiful design and in case of brightness and witheness the Display is fantastic, also the viewing angles are good but not perfect
Another aspect is that Sony has a good relationship with the dev. comunity (I Think) !!!
A littlebit annoying is the sensitive screen in case of scratches, but it is not that bad with some screen protectors xD
All in all it is a good phone with much better software than the sgs 4 ,in my opinion, also the metal frame feels very nice in comparrison to sgs 4´s platic and fake metal Frame More over it is water resistant (Very nice Feature)
All in all I can recommend it to you
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In my opinion it is a very good phone, it has amazing performance, good battery life, beatiful and structured ui, with good light the camera performs well (whit less light only in manuall mode), in my opinion beatiful design and in case of brightness and witheness the Display is fantastic, also the viewing angles are good but not perfect
Another aspect is that Sony has a good relationship with the dev. comunity (I Think) !!!
A littlebit annoying is the sensitive screen in case of scratches, but it is not that bad with some screen protectors xD
All in all it is a good phone with much better software than the sgs 4 ,in my opinion, also the metal frame feels very nice in comparrison to sgs 4´s platic and fake metal Frame More over it is water resistant (Very nice Feature)
All in all I can recommend it to you
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Thank you so much for your reply,I agree with what you said,but do you think that what Sony offers can top some of the exclusive features of the sgs4?such as the air gesture,air view,eye control and the built in barometre and thermometre? Honnestly that s what standing in my way to get the z1,thinking that i ll miss all these exclisivities from the s4 not to mention that the s4 is rated to be a lot more reparable than Sony!
I can unserstand what you are saying, but I think these features aren´t necessary !!! I know a lot people using sgs 4 and simply nobody is using most of Samsungs special features !! In addition most of them aren´t working fine so you won´t be able to use the correctly xD oreover all those fetures are using battery so you are loosing a lot of (truly it is changable) !!!
Hopfully I could help you and don´t forget to hit the ´´Thanks´´ button
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I can unserstand what you are saying, but I think these features aren´t necessary !!! I know a lot people using sgs 4 and simply nobody is using most of Samsungs special features !! In addition most of them aren´t working fine so you won´t be able to use the correctly xD oreover all those fetures are using battery so you are loosing a lot of (truly it is changable) !!!
Hopfully I could help you and don´t forget to hit the ´´Thanks´´ button
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Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?
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Hello guys,what's up?
Im new to the forum,and i would really appreciate it if you help me make up my mind about buying the Z1,I've been reading about it and its features,watching videos and everything but still can't make up my mind as I have never met someone who has been using it and though I don't know how it works in real life.Is it really worth it?What kind of troubles can I face while using it? and the most important question,do you guys think that it's better than the Samsung Galaxy s4? in what way?
You have no idea how much i need your help guys,I ll be so greatful !
Peace
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The S4 isn't a bad phone but compared to the Z1, the S4 has a slower Snapdragon 600 processor and GPU, smaller battery, poor build quality (plastic back and frame)
All depends on your Budget though,
I've had Samsung phones for over 3 years now, let me tell you that most of the Samsung features are just gimmicks. You wont even use %75 of those things in your cell, unless you want to show off in front of your Iphone friends
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Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?[/QUO)
I think, but i´am not sure, you will get two years of battery warranty by Sony, but only phones with bulit in battery like the z1 !!! And I heard that modern batteries will loose only 15 % of their capacity after a bit more than 1000 times of complet charging xD
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raziel123 said:
The S4 isn't a bad phone but compared to the Z1, the S4 has a slower Snapdragon 600 processor and GPU, smaller battery, poor build quality (plastic back and frame)
All depends on your Budget though,
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I wouldn't say that the S4 is "poor build quality" just because it's made out of plastic. It's a less desirable material, but it's still selling well.
If you're getting a phone now, it would be foolish to get an S4 when its replacement is just around the corner. I wouldn't choose this phone unless you don't care about keeping up with the latest and greatest.
I would personally be stuck between the Z1, Nexus 5, and the Note 3.
Everyone knows that the Nexus 5 is the best bang for the buck. It's not a fancy phone, but it has some top-line specs at a low price point which makes this compelling to everyone.
The Note 3 is actually not much bigger physically against the Z1, but the screen size is a good .5 inches larger. You might not use the stylus as much as you think you would, but 3rd party development as well as accessory availability is much higher than any of the 3.
The Z1's selling point is the camera and body. Megapixels mean nothing, but it's got one of the best specs. Aluminum and glass body for the iPhone-like feel.
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I prefer the Sony Xperia Z1
MakaMika said:
Hello guys,what's up?
Im new to the forum,and i would really appreciate it if you help me make up my mind about buying the Z1,I've been reading about it and its features,watching videos and everything but still can't make up my mind as I have never met someone who has been using it and though I don't know how it works in real life.Is it really worth it?What kind of troubles can I face while using it? and the most important question,do you guys think that it's better than the Samsung G
alaxy s4? in what way?
You have no idea how much i need your help guys,I ll be so greatful !
Peace
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The battery of Xperia Z1 is so nice. I watched video with maximum voice.And I turned on the flashlight then take photos. The capacity of the z1 battery reduced slowly. The color of the photo taken by S4 is bright. But S4 was burning hot after playing games.
At the moment, the Z1 is right up there, just make sure you get a phone that is bootloader unlockable if you plan to in the future, i didn't like an idiot.
other alternatives are the note 3, LG N5 and the LG G2, all good phones and you most likely won't regret any purchases, I went with the Z1 as it's the right size for me, has a crazy camera and it's water proof, the pace of the phone is superb and it's build quality is top notch.
The choice is always yours tho m8 and it doesn't really matter what other people say, it's down to what you think in the end.
Looking back now, if i could have done it again, i might have given the note 3 another look, maybe even a glare
Forget the S4, it wasn't up to much when it came out, overheating issues, random reboots and a lot of phones simply just dying, at the time the HTC One for me anyway was the logical choice, still my favorite phone, albeit with a slightly slower processor, i'd even got as far to say that the One holds it's own with the newer batch, only problem is that when newer phones come out the One might feel dated in terms of performance.
You see I found them at almost the same price!
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I've had Samsung phones for over 3 years now, let me tell you that most of the Samsung features are just gimmicks. You wont even use %75 of those things in your cell, unless you want to show off in front of your Iphone friends
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I heard that these features won t be fully used and You confirmed that to me!too bad my friends are all android users,nothing to brag about
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MakaMika said:
Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?[/QUO)
I think, but i´am not sure, you will get two years of battery warranty by Sony, but only phones with bulit in battery like the z1 !!! And I heard that modern batteries will loose only 15 % of their capacity after a bit more than 1000 times of complet charging xD
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Wow that's great!I guess it would be a legit choice after all!!thanks a lot man
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MakaMika said:
Yeah,you've been so helpful thank's a lot,and because of that i'll annoy you more with my questions XD , tell me plz about the battery,if one day it gets ruined after a long while of excessive use,how can that be fixed?[/QUO)
I think, but i´am not sure, you will get two years of battery warranty by Sony, but only phones with bulit in battery like the z1 !!! And I heard that modern batteries will loose only 15 % of their capacity after a bit more than 1000 times of complet charging xD
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Yeah you re right,but the s5 wont be here until March maybe and would be a little expencive at the begining.
I dont quite get what you mean by saying megapixels mean nothing,do you mean that the quality of the photos taken by z1 isn't that big of a deal?
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The battery of Xperia Z1 is so nice. I watched video with maximum voice.And I turned on the flashlight then take photos. The capacity of the z1 battery reduced slowly. The color of the photo taken by S4 is bright. But S4 was burning hot after playing games.
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This sounds awesome! And yes,I ve had the overheating problem with my samsung phones,it gets annoying sometimes especially when it turns itself off because of it X-(
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At the moment, the Z1 is right up there, just make sure you get a phone that is bootloader unlockable if you plan to in the future, i didn't like an idiot.
other alternatives are the note 3, LG N5 and the LG G2, all good phones and you most likely won't regret any purchases, I went with the Z1 as it's the right size for me, has a crazy camera and it's water proof, the pace of the phone is superb and it's build quality is top notch.
The choice is always yours tho m8 and it doesn't really matter what other people say, it's down to what you think in the end.
Looking back now, if i could have done it again, i might have given the note 3 another look, maybe even a glare
Forget the S4, it wasn't up to much when it came out, overheating issues, random reboots and a lot of phones simply just dying, at the time the HTC One for me anyway was the logical choice, still my favorite phone, albeit with a slightly slower processor, i'd even got as far to say that the One holds it's own with the newer batch, only problem is that when newer phones come out the One might feel dated in terms of performance.
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Umm,Im not so sure what "bootloader unlockable" means,is it about the ability to change roms and roots and stuff? (not much into this ) but it'd be so nice of you if you explain it more.The guy at the phone store did mention something about having to unlock the phone before he could sell it,is that it?
I appreciate your help dude!
Is any off-contract (full price) Z1 bootloader-unlockable? I assume the locked-down ones are carrier-subsidized...
I would have recommended the Z1 untill Sonys half-arsed 4.3 release ballsed-up the bluetooth stack making the phone useless in my car as I cannot use it now on hands-free................................
MakaMika said:
Umm,Im not so sure what "bootloader unlockable" means,is it about the ability to change roms and roots and stuff? (not much into this ) but it'd be so nice of you if you explain it more.The guy at the phone store did mention something about having to unlock the phone before he could sell it,is that it?
I appreciate your help dude!
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The guy at the store shouldn't really have to do anything with the phone to sell it, especially unlocking it. ?
Unlocking the bootloader gives you a bit more freedom to do what you want with the phone, so if you were to root it (BL unlock isn't required for root) and then you wanted to install a rom like Paranoid android or Cyanogen mod or any rom that requires a custom kernel then you will need to have the ability to unlock the handset, I personally can't unlock mine cos I stupidly went with a provider directly, also bare in mind that the bootloader unlock or not isn't anything to do with the sim being locked, they're not related.
If you have no plans to unlock the bootloader then i'm sure you'll love the Z1, i've had literally no problems with mine, everything is fast and stable (bar the odd random reboot which happens once a week if that) i'm still running 4.2 and it suits me quite well, I am rooted and I have exactly the right amount of mods installed that I would want from any other phone, also the pace of the phone is blistering so i don't really have a need to install custom kernels anyway and the CM based rom's are good but I never really stick with them for very long anyway, so not a deal breaker for me.
Just so you know, unlocking the bootloader will most likely void your warranty so be aware before you commit, rooting is reversible and won't touch your warranty, unless you send it to them rooted, just flash an FTF to revert back to normal.
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I would have recommended the Z1 untill Sonys half-arsed 4.3 release ballsed-up the bluetooth stack making the phone useless in my car as I cannot use it now on hands-free................................
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4.4 will be in the post m8, and it'll address the BT issues i imagine.
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Is any off-contract (full price) Z1 bootloader-unlockable? I assume the locked-down ones are carrier-subsidized...
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Not all carriers disallow the unlock.
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
slobo2712 said:
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
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Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.
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Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.
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Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...
As a sony funboy,i have to admir that, in low lighf samsunf is way better, but if compare with real life view, samsung looks like crap, greens is not green, blue is not blue. Just crayon colours.
As my tought, samsung's gui looks like cildish, still like android 2.1.
Still i suggest everybody around me to buy samsung. Just to make them suffer. Ahhaha.
For real. Goto one ofe electronic store. Get both of them in your hand. use both of them for awile. With which one you feel better, get it. All new smartphones are powerfull enoght to handle all kind of applications.
Most importand thing is, will you be happy one mounth later you bought device.
Best regards.
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Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...
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I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.
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I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.
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Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?
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Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?
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In my opinion it isn't I just avoid taking pictures in the dark, when using the flash, I prefer to use torch instead of the actual flash. (Torch keeps your led on instead of flashing.)
I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it
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I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it
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Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now
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Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now
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Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)
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Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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oh the Irony...by the way you may want to check and compare the price of the z2 and the lg g2...I think the lg g2 is a bit more..accesible? like the xz and s4
My shop can't get rid of your last G2. Been trying to basically give it away for 2 months.
Sony all the way. Far better than most of the alternatives and you doubt have to deal with that crappy interface Samsung uses.
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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Not at all. I own a Z and I love it, as I've said previously. G2 is just near-the-same price category as Z snd S4 nowadays, that's why I recommended it (by saying get a G2 I automatically became an LG fanboy lol ...clever thinking:good
And yes Z2 is an excellent recommendation for someone who is looking for a smartphone in the price range of the XZ and SGS4
Samsung has Knox, Sony does not, making it much more user friendly when it comes to flashing
Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45666586
No solution in sight for Samsung fanboys
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No I dont like LG phones at all,what is knox?I dont want to buy new phone..?tnx
Dammit you people are hijacking this topic! He want's to know XZ vs S4
Stop confusing him!:silly::silly::angel:
P.S. I haven't forgotten your pictures
The Z looks good, the S4 looks ugly.
Oke straight to the point:
XZ is a piece of art with glass and the 1st flagship of Sony, great in performance and a very nice phone and very good custom roms for it ^^
Samsung GS4:
A piece of plastic, comes from the kids store where they sell toys, worse phone and cant tip on the XZ and touchwiz s*cks
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !