Hey i may have the opportunity to swap my galaxy s iii for a Xperia T i was just wondering if anyone has made the change from S3 to T?
Or just what are your thought on the swap?
Why would you wanna swap the S3 for a XT? Doesn't make sense, the S3 is a lot more powerful. I doubt anyone would swap phones, if you have an S3, it'd be a downgrade.
Do you by any chance mean the S2? If so, then yes, swap, the T is a lot better.
Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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There are quite a few threads of comparisons between the two. Just search.
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Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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The world and his wife will probably have an XT before long - it is the Bond phone after all.
I was considering both the S3 and XT and went for the XT. Mainly for the camera. Having lived with it for a week or two now I'm pleased I made the choice I did. (I had the Galaxy Note before but gave it to my father as his sight is failing and he loved my big screen )
I'm glad I went for the XT - camera is good and the music player is way better than my Note was. It also feels more like proper Android as Samsung TouchWiz was OK but not really to my liking.
There are some features the XT has that I like too - like the volume and power buttons not being opposite each other, location based WiFi switching, the dedicated camera button and having the music player controls on the lock screen, etc. and I prefer the XT screen.
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Why would you wanna swap the S3 for a XT? Doesn't make sense, the S3 is a lot more powerful. I doubt anyone would swap phones, if you have an S3, it'd be a downgrade.
Do you by any chance mean the S2? If so, then yes, swap, the T is a lot better.
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LOL, really? .......... i swapped S3 for XT and never looked back.
spec. wise maybe it is more powerful, but in real life XT is better phone.
you, go on, flame me. i had both in my hands, and sgs3 for few months.
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LOL, really? .......... i swapped S3 for XT and never looked back.
spec. wise maybe it is more powerful, but in real life XT is better phone.
you, go on, flame me. i had both in my hands, and sgs3 for few months.
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That's what I thought my wife has a xperia s and it runs as smooth as it looks. My thoughts are the XT can only be better than that. Plus it looks good
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That's what I thought my wife has a xperia s and it runs as smooth as it looks. My thoughts are the XT can only be better than that. Plus it looks good
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well if you have a chance try it yourself in a shop. this kind of thread will only bring you word wars, unfortunately.
i like it more, feels better in a hand, screen is better, sony software is better, cm10 is working already better than on sgs3.
but it is your decision in the end.
and, we'll have a great kernel here, soon
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I've come from an HTC One X which again is substantially more powerful than the T but I've not looked back, and that's on stock ICS. Once I get around to unlock, root and running custom ROM I'll be even happier I'm sure.
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Mainly because the world and his wife has an s3. Ive also flashes the polish jb update and the phone lags now. Just fancy a change. I dont tend to stick to one phone for too long lol
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Well if you could try out the XT beforehand then that'd lower the risk of you regretting it.
Not here to start wars, but looking at the specs of each phone, I'd say the S3 is better, and thanks to its more powerful specs, it'd be more futureproof than the XT.
It won't be long before a lot of people have the XT and then you'd be in the same boat all over again.
My thoughts, try out the phone first, see how it feels, and if you want, swap it.
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Well if you could try out the XT beforehand then that'd lower the risk of you regretting it.
Not here to start wars, but looking at the specs of each phone, I'd say the S3 is better, and thanks to its more powerful specs, it'd be more futureproof than the XT.
It won't be long before a lot of people have the XT and then you'd be in the same boat all over again.
My thoughts, try out the phone first, see how it feels, and if you want, swap it.
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Specs say one thing. People who have used it say another.
As you say - try before you swap.
yeah not only specs matter.... that bothers me cause samsung has been putting out core wars and screen inch wars.. for samsung it must be bigger and more powerful.. but software and hardware deign Sucks!
My previous phone was the Galaxy S3. Now I have the Xperia T.
Speed feeling is same. Galaxy S3 has better battery. Xperia T is better in the hand (smallest).
My current favorite is Xperia T.
Coming from an S3 too, mainly because I prefer black, industrial designs with sharp edges as opposed to curves, flowers and the whole 'nature' inspiration. The stock ringtones on the S3 were just plain awful. The Sony software looks slicker than TouchWiz (althouth TouchWiz has a few extra unique features).
I do miss the speed of the S3's camera, but overall it's been worth the upgrade.
Depending on where you are the s3 doesn't really have much over the T.
Pretty sure here they are both 1.5ghz dual core devices. The s3 gets an extra gig of ram but, that's hardly a deal maker for most people.
AFAIK the quad core version of the s3 still lacks dev support and I'd take somewhat inferior specs with superior dev support.
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Own both and note 2 would recommend sticking with S3.
It's a more powerful beast and battery life is better.
Screen quality far superior.
The following reasons I would recommend getting T over S3:
Better quality sound but not necessarily louder
Better camera
Better design
Better hardware
Better UI
Everything else would have goto s3. Dev support is much better with S3 hardly any support for T.
Don't get T for the sake of change as you will probably regret it unless you prefer smaller screens.
T does have some good features tho and UI is much better. Touchwiz is poor.
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yeah not only specs matter.... that bothers me cause samsung has been putting out core wars and screen inch wars.. for samsung it must be bigger and more powerful.. but software and hardware deign Sucks!
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I got the same feeling because personally Sony and HTC have more intresting things about their software than samsung. I always easily get bored of samsung phones no matter how good battery life or hardware. My latest samsung phones since 2010 have been the GS1/2/3 and Wave and all were extremely boring. I have the HOX now and had the HOS before it and Sony Xperia S, Arc S and PLAY. Never found them boring with the xperia s was just battery life, camera auto focus took too long and audio volume and bass was nonsense and its the same again with the xperia T bar camera auto focus problem which is why i didnt get it. The ARC S and PLAY the hardware side is simply weak tbh and the fact they have so little ram they always struggled with games and apps. Personally the play was brought out too early they should have been bringing that out now and support it with 2gb RAM, Quad Core and something like adreno 320GPU or even if it was dual core with 1gb RAM and adreno 225 GPU.
300+ ram, single core and adreno 205 was not doing it atall. Its a shame though as i really like the xperia T and was going to have it as my second phone but the audio and battery life problem is a big issue.
I did that. I gave my S3 to my son an bought the Xperia T.
I can not tel you what is the better Phone. The T feels faster but thats a feeling. The browser on the S3 was faster. I am a hughe Samsung fan but a bigger Sony fan.
I can defo say the browser speed on the s3 was a flyer but I am not missing that atall, as my HOX is fast enough.
My mother and step dad, joined contracts in my mums name have played with the s3 and the XT and are not music people so they prefer the XT battery life wont be and issue either for them as they are not the kind of people that will be browsing internet alot, playing music, watching videos etc and on t mobile the XT is a bit cheaper aswell and the prefer the look and feel of the XT especially as its a bit smaller.
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The phones over a year old now. I only picked mine up used almost half a year ago for 200 USD. The phone's price really plummeted in just over half a year didn't it? Even now it hasn't dropped further as it hit its rock bottom way back then. High end phones that are older and with less specs cost the same as this as its really unpopular. An example being the Galaxy S.
So in a way its a pretty unsuccessful phone. Reasons? Software support has been terrible, suffering from radio issues. The stock firmware was appalling for a long time. Then the announcement ICS wasn't coming which soon after you saw the price hitting rock bottom. Leading to LG to counter its previous comment and proceed with ICS. Which it probably had no plans to before the backlash. Since the update was due rather late and has since been delayed a quarter.
Hardware wise its not bad. But still outdone by S2's larger screen, double ram and better camera.
All said i'm extremely happy with my first Android especially considering what I paid. But only with the developer support providing the best solutions. If I were a stock user i'd be sorely disappointed, only feeling better for the price.
In terms of my next phone, I want a larger screen 4.7ish but not pocket busting like the note. A better camera but equal to 2X is fine. More RAM because Opera Mobile keeps shutting down when I multitask out for a second, even with an extra 48mb ram hack. Amoled would be nice but not necessary, mainly for its benefits if its sunlight legibility is good. HD is unnecessary in my opinion.
As it stands I probably won't be upgrading for awhile until the likes of the S3 gets cheap. Except its design looks unprofessional. Optimus 4X anyone? :-D They couldn't make the same mistakes again right? Right?
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I will only be upgrading to nexus devices from now on, because of this phone has made me realise I hate manufacturer skins and that I want the latest updates all the time.
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I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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I have not decided yet what phone I am going to get. But I'm very interested in Asus padfone.
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In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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In order to use the pad, you need to insert your phone into it. So idk....doesn't interest me.
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I know. But I think it's pretty cool.
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i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.
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i am happy with the phone. the only complaints are the screen outdors and the camera (well not the camera itself but the plastic cover that ruins the quality).
i dont even dare thinking about a new phone but seeing how fast the market moves today's pick will be outdated in 2 weeks.
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You can just remove that plastic cover by pressing it out from the inside
It is glued woth potatoes I think
But my camera quality looks way better now
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I like sony hayabusa, but who knows what will be in a year or so.
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Definitely a Nexus. Best update and mods
Going for a Galaxy S3 in a weeks time.
Would you guys do the same? I had this phone for over a year now
Hayabusa 12mp sounds like potential. If nexus grew a good camera, it'd be killer. The rumour of five nexuses this year is promising
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some people arent that rich to change expensive phones every 12 months.
My next device will be WITH a good battery, a SD card slot (dumb htc with their one series..almost made them perfect), a good camera (likes of SGS3 or more likely htc one x), and an ARM cortex-a15 based cpu (or krait). and quite importantly, a wolfson micro sound chip (also supported by supercurio ) i dont want screens as large as 4,7 inches though
oh, and i hope it will be a nexus...i want good updates... fuuuu LG
this would be a freaking dream phone. but i aint buying anything until the 2x gives up on me, i still really like it
So far i had 2 android phones with the optimus being my second one. I have noticed that all those "specs" do not matter. What matters is a good software. Therefore i would move to a nexus devices when my optimus gets completely destroyed or really useless. No need to keep throwing money on phones if they cannot completely replace my laptop.
I will go for a SGS2 or 3 or a Nexus.
Hopefully soon. Tired of all the probs with my LGOS
currently, my o2x running temasek kang, it give me what i want to do
still waiting for the stable cm9, then will use it about a year
my next phone maybe the galaxy s4
I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.
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I think I'm buying a S3 or nexus. And what Arkara said, I agree that specs don't matter as much as the software support.
Seeing as the S2 a friend of my has, still running stock since launch and no factory resets: Smooth as hell, fast and long battery. Galaxy Nexus is also stable.
Maybe my phone has a bad chip or something like that but the FD issues are to much and the battery life is overall the same for me no matter the BB or RIL. No more Tegra for me.
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Nexus seems like the popular choice among us. I think specs matter still otherwise you wouldn't be after a high end phone. I personally have grown accustomed to CM's flexibility and features so i'm not really after software support. Except as we know in our 2X case it lacks drivers for us to update to.
Of course a stable good software release is important, afterall custom ROM users are a minor aspect in comparison to sales. But in the S3's case Samsung are trying to differentiate and add value through the software extras. That's great for most but if your not using it you're paying for nothing.
At least the idea behind the S2 was hardware and just the right software to make it run. This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
What do 2X users here think of the iPhone anyway? I think it's like our polar opposite in the high end. The super expensive overrated and over hyped hardware with good closed software popular phone compared to the piss cheap higher spec phone with miserable software and success.
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This time around Samsung are making moves inspired by their biggest rival in their eyes, Apple. They like to poke fun and criticise Apple but they would prefer nothing more than to be them. The design, the marketing and the software are all in their footsteps.
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Well, they sure as hell have a long way to go as far as design goes. Pretty much all android phones do. They are butt ugly. The Optimus 2x is actually one of the prettier ones imo! The Galaxy S2 for instance is a design disaster.
I'm not a fan of the iOS, though. When I use it, on my Ipod Touch, I get the feeling that I am being treated like an idiot.
I will have a close look at the ASUS Padfone.
If it only had a 720p screen, I would have bought it.
When the Rumors about 5 new Nexus devices for Jelly Bean come true I hope ASUS makes one of the phones. I love their build quality and design. They also are the fastest when it comes to updates and patches.
I also think that the Optimus 2X is among the prettiest phones. This was the reason I picked it instead of the Galaxy SII (the price was similar at launch).
With CM7.2 UNOFFICIAL (I also use temaseks build) the phone is very good and I get a good battery life lately since I turn my phone off and back on right aufter I unplug it from the charger in the mornings. The only thing I don't like is the Battery life when I use it a lot for webbrowsing and games.
My next Phone will have a 720p display, a bigger battery and more RAM.
SD Card slot, swappable battery are things I would very much miss if they were not available on my next phone. Optimus 4X maybe, Huawei D Quad maybe, Jelly Bean Nexus possibly or the Padfone?
I´m tired of the 2x....
...because of the politics from LG.
The stects of that phone were really good, but as it was said before: Good software ist more worth than good hardware.
I think my next Phone will be the next SGS or a Nexus.
What i need:
SD-Card
huge RAM
720p Display
LTE
NFC
good Cam
Hi all
I'm debating on buying either of these two phones
I play a lot of hd games so is the s3 LTE's gpu good enough (compared to nexus 4)?
The only reason i don't want to buy a nexus 4 is because of the paltry storage.......
In terms of performance does the s3 LTE match the nexus 4?
The S3 LTE is approx. 40$ more than nexus 4 where i am going to buy it and will the S3 LTE get android 5? (or even further)?
I would appreciate a quick reply as i have to buy either by tomrrow....
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i dont mind lack of lte in nexus 4 my main worry is storage on nexus 4 and performance on s3 lte
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i dont mind lack of lte in nexus 4 my main worry is storage on nexus 4 and performance on s3 lte
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Nexus 4. Get a big one and storage shouldn't be an issue, else you're using it wrong. I base this recommendation on your posting this on XDA, I assume you were at some point going to flash a non-standard ROM on your S3 LTE, yes? You will never get a completely stable AOSP-based ROM on an S3 LTE, this means ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, CyanogenMod. They will run, but they might drain the battery more than usual and certain features will probably never work on them due to lack of source code from Samsung. Same goes for the Exynos-based S4.
Get a Nexus 4, Sony Xperia Z or HTC One... Or buy my S3 LTE for a good price?
Lol sorry man can't buy yours but i do plan to have 3-4 hd games and considering this takes up around 8-9 gb the remaining 2-3 gb on nexus 4 isn't sufficient......
Have you tried any hd games on ur s3 lte? How do they perform? And yes like you corectly concurred i will be running cyanogenmod if i buy an s3......
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Nexus 4 support only 3g network, of cause you should not by nexus 4.
4G network is the trend, you should buy galaxy s iii lte
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I had the same dilemma and my choice was i9305. Development is slow and painful but other than that it's great phone. 2GB of RAM and LTE on board makes it more future proof than N4. Expandable memory is a MUST so N4 looses again.
I've played few new HD games on it and there's no lag or anything, smooth and crisp graphics. Brightness half way up and you can play up to 4hrs non-stop!
Removable battery is a good thing if you want to play games on it.....
Price is going down as well, here in UK, you can get new one from eBay for less than £300 so it cost the same as N4.
It's really up to you but I'll suggest S3 LTE.
If I hadnt been given a 4G S3 as a replacement by insurance when my orig S3 broke I would have gotten a Nexus 4, Not a fan of samsung anymore they are far to closed to development on there hardware. My friends with the Nexus 4 dont mind the lack of LTE as its plenty fast enough and with so much Wifi I guess it depends on how important LTE is to you
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Lol sorry man can't buy yours but i do plan to have 3-4 hd games and considering this takes up around 8-9 gb the remaining 2-3 gb on nexus 4 isn't sufficient......
Have you tried any hd games on ur s3 lte? How do they perform? And yes like you corectly concurred i will be running cyanogenmod if i buy an s3......
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I agree with the others, the S3 LTE is a good phone. But it is a terrible choice if you plan on running CyanogenMod.
Rekoil and co - how is it a 'terrible' choice.. Come on dram queens.. CM10.1 is working a treat on my I9305 don't kno wwhat your on about.. Stbale, feature rich (sure a few things not present) and development is nightly just like the rest of the game.. So I ask again.. Sure the kernal tweaks/modding is where we're lacking but with the right tools you can can very good battery life and performance is blistering..
All in all only negative is the scope of development presently - this isn't to say things won't change with respect to kernal.. In short nothing critical is missing and development is churning along nicely.. A few features i'm sure you'll miss if your looking but makes up for in performance/multi tasking imo .
Lack of ROM choices is another issue sure - but if your talking CM then not really as they're all pretty much on par..
So Kernal once again.. This is the big miss with the phone.. Anyway just eager for kernal releases if possible.. Otherwise i'll still be content until the next big thing comes my way and th ephone still rocks hard core
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If I hadnt been given a 4G S3 as a replacement by insurance when my orig S3 broke I would have gotten a Nexus 4, Not a fan of samsung anymore they are far to closed to development on there hardware. My friends with the Nexus 4 dont mind the lack of LTE as its plenty fast enough and with so much Wifi I guess it depends on how important LTE is to you
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hm, imagine when all your friends are watching youtube hd video using lte network, getting a 40 to 100 mb per sec download speed without lag and wait time for start and you are still using around 10mb download speed. waiting the video to load up , hahaha
I think at that time your would regret buying a 3g phone at the beginning.
and the truth is at some point of time in near future ( actually it is happening now in Hong Kong), the mothly charge for a 3G plan is equal to a monthly charge of 4G plan. Would you think you are stupid when you are paying a 4G plan while using only 3G network simply because you are using a damn phone that can only support 3G network?
And for the wifi, come on, be realistic, in a coffee shop , 30 people sitting there sharing the network, how fast can you get from that wifi network?
Thanks for all the input guys......sat down and calculated how much storage i would need after all the games and music and excluding videos i will have used around 12.4 GB. Considering the nexus 4 has only 12.9 GB storage available to the user I will mostly be going for the s3 LTE.....
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as annoying but rekoil is cyanogen really that bad on s3? That would be a major put-off......because I can't stand touchwiz.....and right now on my mini almost every custom ROM like AOKP and CM has one problem or the other....
Oh and anguslaw 4G doesn't really matter to me we don't even have it yet here in india :-/
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Rekoil and co - how is it a 'terrible' choice.. Come on dram queens.. CM10.1 is working a treat on my I9305 don't kno wwhat your on about.. Stbale, feature rich (sure a few things not present) and development is nightly just like the rest of the game.. So I ask again.. Sure the kernal tweaks/modding is where we're lacking but with the right tools you can can very good battery life and performance is blistering..
All in all only negative is the scope of development presently - this isn't to say things won't change with respect to kernal.. In short nothing critical is missing and development is churning along nicely.. A few features i'm sure you'll miss if your looking but makes up for in performance/multi tasking imo .
Lack of ROM choices is another issue sure - but if your talking CM then not really as they're all pretty much on par..
So Kernal once again.. This is the big miss with the phone.. Anyway just eager for kernal releases if possible.. Otherwise i'll still be content until the next big thing comes my way and th ephone still rocks hard core
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And what about the graphics glitches in keyboard and other places that will literally never be fixed? TV out will also never be fixed.
I'll be honest, I'm going off what I've seen on my friends non-LTE device (I9300, pretty much the same device apart from the modem), I personally cannot run AOSP-based on my device because if I run anything other than Perseus kernel my baseband doesn't find an IMEI, perhaps this has pronounced my dislike for Samsung (in my opinion, something like the modem configuration shouldn't be so easily breakable/writable). But everything I've said is true, all the good developers want nothing to do with the Exynos4 platform, codeworkx happened to have ported to I9300, making I9305 very easy to support, but he wont even accept a free I9305 at this point, because he is fed up with Samsung.
I will mention this again because I feel it is an important point. I very much like the hardware, it is simple in design and feature rich, this is a phone I would have stayed with for several years... if Samsung had released source code for the platform in a timely manner. At this point I am probably going to sell my I9305 soon and use my old Desire S until I can get ahold of an Xperia Z or something. All the sources for that device were released BEFORE the device even hit the market, now THAT is good support.
And... "development is churning along nicely"? This is literally all that is happening in terms of development for AOSP-based ports. If you know anything about programming you can tell that those commits are not development so much as fixing configuration mistakes and applying code loaned from other devices.
Although this is interesting... apparently the Galaxy S4 in my market will not be using the Exynos Octa, but rather a Snapdragon 600. This might be a pretty good contender in that case! At the moment I'm personally considering HTC One, Xperia Z and Galaxy S4 (but ONLY if it comes with Snapdragon 600).
I would go for a nexus 4. Brilliant processing and graphics rendering and no lack of roms or development for the next 3 years atleast. Also there is something called enjoying one game at a time. In my experience I have never liked playing more than one good game At a time on my phone. Nor would u b wasting your time removing the crap that Samsung puts on it's phones. Just my view, yours may be different
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm now decided I'm going to buy nexus 4. I'm also thinking because of lack of additional storage. But i have nexus 7. I can play all the games that I put there. My friend let me hold his note 2 and I was asked to root it and install rooms or kernel. I searched in xda and read threads. I'm a little disappointed because of few custom roms. I'm really looking for aokp rom but it's not stable on note 2 I think this applies to all Samsung phones except for Google edition?
If you're into tweaking and want custom roms, high performance phone go for nexus 4 and leave that additional storage, removable battery, LTE, and touch wiz!
Seems you made your choice. They are both equally good phones, just in different areas. The nexus 4 is faster, nicer and has a superior screen. As for stock android ... well I hate it - it is faster, but I guess it's a matter of preference. One advice - when you pick up your n4 take the phone as you would talk and listen for any noise from the earpiece - they tend to hiss a lot and if it does, ask for another one. Also look for a rev 2.0 N4 - they made some nice small changes in the design, google it.
Even if you will get a Nexus 4 i still think that S3 LTE is the way to go for what you need it, yes Nexus 4 has better development and better GPU, but S3 LTE you get more space, you can get a spare battery, better screen for gaming (the home buttons are a bit of a problem at first at least when playing some games).
So by me i'd say strictly for gaming:
Nexus 4: 1) better GPU (not that better in real games only in benchmarks).
S3 LTE: 1) more space (you will need it the more the game will evolve)
2) spare battery a must for gamers on smartphones (or a big battery)
3) games seem better on Amoled screens (but that's just my opinion, and no problems whit the buttons).
4) better sound if you use headphones
But if you want to mod the phone go for Nexus 4 v2.0.:fingers-crossed:
I would like to know how is the radio/antena quality of Nexus 4. Galaxy Nexus has terrible reception compared to S3. GPS chip is a second class (still talking about GN.) too. I got a feeling that they build Nexus devices to be crap intentionally, so that all software which is able to run on it, flies on other high end devices . Regarding Note 2, I am not sure what the guy is talking about. There are plenty of ROMs and support for it. It is a great peace of hardware IMO, and my favorite one. It always comes up to, what for do you actually need/use a device. I want to be able to work with it. For me that means writing emails, doing some system administration (I use PaderSync for ssh for example.), sometimes working even with Excel sheets, browsing the web, and making pictures of documents and singing them (stopped doing this.) and for all this I need a bigger screen and resolution, always good reception and decent camera. I also like colors of amoled screens .
So you decide depending on what is important for you, and check the value for money ratio, of course.
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But if you are not in a hurry, why not wait a little and consider other phones? Xperia Z has great support, sources are published, it's a nice device, HTC One and S4 will get Nexus like versions. So depending on how do you intend to acquire your device (contract or free/unlocked) maybe you will be able to get one of newer devices?
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N4 has good reception, high class gps and amazingly sharp screen. It's fast as hell , boots in seconds and loads apps instantly. UI is very responsive (butter) Camera is also decent, but not better than sgs3 and the led is weaker.
Only drawbacks are speakerphone, in call quality, lack of space and the terrible vanilla os with the onscreen buttons and ugly and very uncomfortable UI (personal opinion). Oh and that battery... Well it's not intended for gaming , it's a developer phone and ! If I was new to android I'd get the nexus, but the OEM skins actually make for a better usability ( s planner, better phone ui)
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N4 has good reception, high class gps and amazingly sharp screen. It's fast as hell , boots in seconds and loads apps instantly. UI is very responsive (butter) Camera is also decent, but not better than sgs3 and the led is weaker.
Only drawbacks are speakerphone, in call quality, lack of space and the terrible vanilla os with the onscreen buttons and ugly and very uncomfortable UI (personal opinion). Oh and that battery... Well it's not intended for gaming , it's a developer phone and ! If I was new to android I'd get the nexus, but the OEM skins actually make for a better usability ( s planner, better phone ui)
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You like TW ! I don't like S Planer because it forces you to use Samsung Calendar, and doesn't have 2 way sync with Google calendar, what I use for work too.
Speaking about launcher, Nova is my preference. Simple but powerful. Should be the Google stock one.
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I'm in the market for an upgrade and am torn between the Xperia Z and the Nexus 4. Obviously the Nexus 4 has the advantages of cost and timely updates from Google. I've read a lot of professional reviews about both phones, but would enjoy the chance to hear from Xperia Z owners about why I should choose this device over the Nexus 4.
The main advantages that I can see are; the screen resolution, the LCD screen being better in direct sunlight, 4G, upgradeable storage, waterproof, arguably stronger to being dropped, better battery life, better looks. Of those the upgradeable storage seems like a large gain, and the waterproofing a nice novelty (unless it one day saves me I guess!)
I'd love to hear from anyone that wants to persuade me to spend a bit more cash and go for the XZ.
I sold my N4 and bought an XZ. The only advantage the N4 has is that it's a Nexus, I run Cyanogenmod though so that's pretty much a non issue for me. Also, the N4 has a much more active dev community. Obviously it's cheaper too. I prefer the XZ in every other way though.
If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.
as the upper guy said go for the XperiaZ if u like giving your phone a shower every week
and have you checked ZL cause it is smaller with same 5inch screen
it's lighter also it has a better sound since its not rugged
Thanks for your reply about the ZL. According to the Sony website it's a few grams heavier but a decent bit smaller dimension wise. It's not available over here yet, but I'm going to keep an eye out for it.
I'd be interested to hear opinions about two issues that have come up in the reviews:
1) Software flaws that require the phone to be restarted to resolve
2) How the phone feels against your ear during calls - this sounds a bit of a strange one I admit!
Finally, does anyone have any information about the cost of Sony replacing the battery. Having replaced the battery (quite easily) on my Samsung Galaxy after about a year I'd be interested to know how easy/costly it is on a device such as this. I know Apple replace them on the iPhones for £55.
If it was my decision I would get a n4. Not only does it trounce the XZ in benchmarks but you get the vanilla android experience and you'll always be on the cutting edge when it comes to software updates. If 4G is a must then its the XZ you'll want although the hspa+ on the n4 is more than fast enough. Also, If you need the best shooter you can get then the XZ is also your best bet although again the nexus 4 is still not awful with its 8mp camera. Both phones will require a wipe down every once in a while due to their design (the nexus 4 has a gorilla glass back). I don't own a nexus 4 myself but quite a bit of my friends do and while only one of them has shattered the back cover, I've read many stories of people who absolutely despise the Nexus 4 claiming the back will shatter at the slight impact, however this can easily be worked around with a nice beefy case if you're worried.
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I sold my iPhone 5 and brought a nexus 4.
I'm happy with it to a point but I'm really interested in the Z, I'm not sure why but it looks amazing.
I've never really played with a Z apart from a demo handset in phone shop but it looked wicked.
I think the main thing I got the nexus for was the updates, I'm happy with the performance of the phone, battery life could be better but apart from that, the nexus is a really good phone.
But if I had the chance to swap for a xperia Z then I would definitely swap.
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If it was my decision I would get a n4. Not only does it trounce the XZ in benchmarks but you get the vanilla android experience and you'll always be on the cutting edge when it comes to software updates. If 4G is a must then its the XZ you'll want although the hspa+ on the n4 is more than fast enough. Also, If you need the best shooter you can get then the XZ is also your best bet although again the nexus 4 is still not awful with its 8mp camera. Both phones will require a wipe down every once in a while due to their design (the nexus 4 has a gorilla glass back). I don't own a nexus 4 myself but quite a bit of my friends do and while only one of them has shattered the back cover, I've read many stories of people who absolutely despise the Nexus 4 claiming the back will shatter at the slight impact, however this can easily be worked around with a nice beefy case if you're worried.
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The camera on the N4 is awful
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dazza_84 said:
I'm sort of in the same boat, I sold my iPhone 5 and brought a nexus 4.
I'm happy with it to a point but I'm really interested in the Z, I'm not sure why but it looks amazing.
I've never really played with a Z apart from a demo handset in phone shop but it looked wicked.
I think the main thing I got the nexus for was the updates, I'm happy with the performance of the phone, battery life could be better but apart from that, the nexus is a really good phone.
But if I had the chance to swap for a xperia Z then I would definitely swap.
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http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...z-vs-htc-one-vs-iphone-5-vs-lumia-920-1137666 this article shows that although on paper the experia z's specs are on par with the current lineup of flagship phones, its real world performance it barely edges out last gen
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The camera on the N4 is awful
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Again I don't own a nexus 4 myself nor do I rely on my smartphone's camera so I wouldn't really know. Under those conditions I guess I really shouldn't of given input on the camera
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I have both a N4 and XZ. I'd strongly recommend the XZ for LTE and the camera, if those matter to you. The N4's camera kind of sucks.
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I wouldnt make the jump or wouldnt pay extra 200 for XZ over nexus 4, its a good phone but not a lot of dev for it, so far we have 1 kernel developer and maybe 4-5 good roms dev after 3 months coming out. I dint think it was a big jump from S3 to XZ.
CM10.1 is on here but there are a lot of bugs including memory leak. XZ is comparable to N4 but I dont think it can compete with HTC one or S4 and thats coming from someone who own the phone for more than a month.
P.s Dont come on this forum and ask for opinion, youtube and look at your options, most on here are either Fanboy or Sony employee.
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I'm in the market for an upgrade and am torn between the Xperia Z and the Nexus 4. Obviously the Nexus 4 has the advantages of cost and timely updates from Google. I've read a lot of professional reviews about both phones, but would enjoy the chance to hear from Xperia Z owners about why I should choose this device over the Nexus 4.
The main advantages that I can see are; the screen resolution, the LCD screen being better in direct sunlight, 4G, upgradeable storage, waterproof, arguably stronger to being dropped, better battery life, better looks. Of those the upgradeable storage seems like a large gain, and the waterproofing a nice novelty (unless it one day saves me I guess!)
I'd love to hear from anyone that wants to persuade me to spend a bit more cash and go for the XZ.
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Nexus has price and Android Update on its side
on the other hands, XZ is more powerful, absolutely awesome design
that's all rest its bull****, you cant compare point per point every stuff
are you willing to spend over 500/600 euros for such mobile phone?
that's your first question to figure out
personally i m focused much about aesthetic and design, XZ is one of most if not the most beautiful smartphone ever made
it s even prettier than iPhone 5
focus on those things,
XZ = design and powerful
Nexus = quality / cost almost unbeatable, Android Update
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Nexus has price and Android Update on its side
on the other hands, XZ is more powerful, absolutely awesome design
that's all rest its bull****, you cant compare point per point every stuff
are you willing to spend over 500/600 euros for such mobile phone?
that's your first question to figure out
personally i m focused much about aesthetic and design, XZ is one of most if not the most beautiful smartphone ever made
it s even prettier than iPhone 5
focus on those things,
XZ = design and powerful
Nexus = quality / cost almost unbeatable, Android Update
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Its really not more powerful (on paper it is) and the nexus 4's design isnt too shabby either.
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CM10.1 is on here but there are a lot of bugs including memory leak.
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Cyanogenmod doesn't have a memory leak. The only bugs are the speakerphone doesn't work in calls, 1.5 second wake lag and apparently hdmi out doesn't work. It's perfectly good as a daily driver.
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Cyanogenmod doesn't have a memory leak. The only bugs are the speakerphone doesn't work in calls, 1.5 second wake lag and apparently hdmi out doesn't work. It's perfectly good as a daily driver.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41399641&postcount=1010
several user reported it.
if you want 4.2.2 and it a absolutely must have go with Nexus 4. Storage is never a problem for me, I never find myself use up 16gb or 32gb
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41399641&postcount=1010
several user reported it.
if you want 4.2.2 and it a absolutely must have go with Nexus 4. Storage is never a problem for me, I never find myself use up 16gb or 32gb
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That wasn't a memory leak though, it was a gpu scaling issue and has been fixed (for me at least). It was a very minor issue and I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't pointed out.
Others have pointed out the price difference. This is absolutely right. Having the N4, if the XZ wasn't given to me, I wouldn't have gotten it. Between the 2, the N4 is half the price. If you're looking to spend money on one or other, the N4's definitely a bigger bang for the buck. While I do firmly believe that the XZ is a better all around phone, I can't honestly say that the differences you get warrant the additional 300 bucks.
Well I guess it depends on where you live but I'd only save 40SEK (About 6.50USD) A month on the Nexus 4.
And the salesman was really pushing the nexus4 so I guess it isn't to popular here in Sweden either. So the choice was easy for me.
Aannyyway, I went with the Z, obviously. Mostly for the water resitance as i broke my S2 from water damage and my arc got dropped once to (but it survived)
I love this phone, I don't have any issues with it. Except that you NEED to buy good screen protector, one with lifetime warranty perhaps.
You do not wan't to scratch the Anti-Shatter Filter. ( I actually returned mine because I did and got it replaced)
Thanks for all of your inputs. I feel a lot more informed, but I'm not sure if I'm any closer to making a decision.
The more I think about it though the more interested I am in the 'pure Android' experience. I might try and bide my time and wait and see if the S4 'Nexus' ships internationally, or if there is any noise towards the end of the year about a Nexus 5.
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Thanks for all of your inputs. I feel a lot more informed, but I'm not sure if I'm any closer to making a decision.
The more I think about it though the more interested I am in the 'pure Android' experience. I might try and bide my time and wait and see if the S4 'Nexus' ships internationally, or if there is any noise towards the end of the year about a Nexus 5.
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Xperia Z has open AOSP Sources, with time there will be a perfect AOSP rom, and the roms we've got now are perfectly fine, they're great actually, the Carbonrom is almost flaw free. and Cyanogenmod works great as a daily driver, few lag bugs and radio isn't working afaik.
I paid as much for the xperia z then I would for the nexus 4. And I get waterproof and bigger screen. So it was easy to make the call and expendable memory is nice too. Both would cost 300 euros. Defiantly the Xperia Z is the better phone for the same price.
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Total noob to the Nexus line... owned MANY phones, and just came from iphone 5, then SG3, and this phone absolutely tunes them all. Best phone Ive ever owned, and a customer for life.
Coming from the S3, I have to say... (and the point of this thread is the SINGLE thing you love the most ---- but make it ORIGINAL... see my example)
The SINGLE best thing about my N5, is that my screen doesn't come on after I receiver EVERY. SINGLE. SMS. It was quite possibly the most annoying and infuriating thing about my S3. drove me nuts from day one. such a useless feature and w the amount of SMS i receive, a total waste of battery.
So... coming from your LAST phone, what's the SINGLE feature you love most?
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Total noob to the Nexus line... owned MANY phones, and just came from iphone 5, then SG3, and this phone absolutely tunes them all. Best phone Ive ever owned, and a customer for life.
Coming from the S3, I have to say... (and the point of this thread is the SINGLE thing you love the most ---- but make it ORIGINAL... see my example)
The SINGLE best thing about my N5, is that my screen doesn't come on after I receiver EVERY. SINGLE. SMS. It was quite possibly the most annoying and infuriating thing about my S3. drove me nuts from day one. such a useless feature and w the amount of SMS i receive, a total waste of battery.
So... coming from your LAST phone, what's the SINGLE feature you love most?
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Comming from an Xperia Play, i love the Performance, nothing out-beats it!
Coming from the cdma Samsung galaxy nexus (Verizon).
I love the battery life and how smooth it runs compared to the gnex.
Coming from the nexus 4 I love how light the phone is and the soft touch in the back, so sexy
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Coming from too many phones to list I like the N5 for its perfectly calibrated super sharp and super bright screen. Of course I like it for many other reasons as well but the display stands out and also stands above the rest
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Single feature I like is stock android right out the box and getting updates straight from Google.
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Coming from the Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) I LOVE the battery life of this phone. Amazing.
for me it was the ability to run a true AOSP rom which I couldnt do with my d2spr
not a"cheap" device
the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
Coming from a Galaxy S4 I love using Vanilla Android with Gravity Box. No bloated skin etc. Love the Nexus line. Definitely sticking with it.
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the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
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Moto X has a nicer build quality but i was like NAH to its 720P Screen and its badder camera and its lacking of the newest flagship CPU/GPU
the Snapdragon 800
$349 for a top-of-the-line smartphone... sorry breh, that's DIRT CHEAP
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the nexus is ok but at $349 it's far from being a "cheap" device
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How does this have anything to do with this thread? Cheap is a relative term, you're right the nexus really isn't a "cheap" device, its quite good quality. But in comparison to other similar devices it is a VERY low priced device.
My single favorite thing about the N5 specifically is probably the sheer speed and smoothness, its so gratifying to use the phone even for just basis tasks. Most of my other "favorites" about the N5 could probably be applied to the whole nexus line in general.
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Comming from an Xperia Play, i love the Performance, nothing out-beats it!
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I would have to agree with Pizza_Dox, we both came from the Xperia PLAY forum. Of course the single best thing about the XP was the dedicated built-in game controller. The N5 is so freaking fast and smooth on everything I throw at it... so Performance... hands down.
Coming from the S4, I love the total lack of Touchwiz and all that Knox nonsense.
Coming from the xperia play as well I love the screen size/look if this phone. The xperia play was 4 inches and I have giant hands. It made the game pad awkward to use. The screen also was pretty low quality I think it was 480p. This one blows it away.
I know it's only one thing but I gotta say a second one. It's nice to have the newest android version. On the play I was constantly flashing Roms because of being stick on ginger bread
Also the thin size of this. Lol too many good things for me to pick just one
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Coming from N4
lots of things but if it has to be only one
SCREEN. marvelous. crystal clear and has far better colors to my eye.
Comin from a Galaxy ace I love the performance !
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-Snapdragon 800!
-Being able to say I own a 'Nexus', sounds awesome doesn't it! Lol.
Google has done a superb job IMO.
Came from n4 and probably the snapdragon 800 + bigger screen and better camera over the n4. Everything else is just a plus
Yesterday I tried playing z2 tablet in Sony store. It is really really light compared with my iPad2 and I really love its design.No physical buttons. I think it must be the most good looking Android tablet in the world. It is very hard for me to choose AMOLED screen or beautiful design. Hi guys how do you think about Sony Z2 tablet?
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You could have just brought this up in one of the other "comparison" threads
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I forgot to say that its design makes me hold tablet very comfortable because of its enough wide margin.
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Once you go Samsung amoled on tablets you won't want to go back. Additionally, the screen aspect ratio 16:10 makes this the perfect video player. Points lost for horrible speakers. Minus the bloatware, this thing runs great.
Sony design have too much bezel for my liking. The only thing the z2 has that no other competitor have is water proof technology.
Amoled is nice but I would trade my Tab S for a Nexus 7 in a fast heart beat.
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I've chosen Tab S. Sony makes great gadgets (Year ago I had Sony Xperia Z), but I don't like its tablets cause of awful big frames. Tab S has (imho) better display, thinner and has less weight. But as for its hardware... Well - everyone knows that it is not brilliant. But for me - its enough for my tasks.)
Alexsandra said:
Yesterday I tried playing z2 tablet in Sony store. It is really really light compared with my iPad2 and I really love its design.No physical buttons. I think it must be the most good looking Android tablet in the world. It is very hard for me to choose AMOLED screen or beautiful design. Hi guys how do you think about Sony Z2 tablet?
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You know, asking this in the Tab S section pretty much ensures what kind of replies you'll get.
It's only human nature to justify their own choices.
Catherine_Solovieva said:
I've chosen Tab S. Sony makes great gadgets (Year ago I had Sony Xperia Z), but I don't like its tablets cause of awful big frames. Tab S has (imho) better display, thinner and has less weight. But as for its hardware... Well - everyone knows that it is not brilliant. But for me - its enough for my tasks.)
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I really like its big frame, which makes me hold tablet very stable and comfortable as well
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Alexsandra said:
I really like its big frame, which makes me hold tablet very stable and comfortable as well
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About comfort - I agree with you absolutely, but I can't do anything with my esthetic taste)) I haven't bought HTC One M8 (and 've sold M7) cause of front panel. It is too obvious for me) It's just my caprice)
Another moment - as far as I remember - Z2 has matte plastic back. It was another minus for me. I loved Sony for their glass materials.( And now they are look like... Samsung-style
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About comfort - I agree with you absolutely, but I can't do anything with my esthetic taste)) I haven't bought HTC One M8 (and 've sold M7) cause of front panel. It is too obvious for me) It's just my caprice)
Another moment - as far as I remember - Z2 has matte plastic back. It was another minus for me. I loved Sony for their glass materials.( And now they are look like... Samsung-style
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I have an HTC One (M8) and a Nexus 5 and I think I like the HTC One more cosmetically .not to mention the HTC One has the Snapdragon 801 as well
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jball said:
I have an HTC One (M8) and a Nexus 5 and I think I like the HTC One more cosmetically .not to mention the HTC One has the Snapdragon 801 as well
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Hmm... My fault is that I've never used Nexus.( I always hear about it, but never tried, thats why I can't tell about its design. Maybe cause of distrust to LG. For me there are only these leaders - Apple, Sony, HTC and Samsung.
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Hmm... My fault is that I've never used Nexus.( I always hear about it, but never tried, thats why I can't tell about its design. Maybe cause of distrust to LG. For me there are only these leaders - Apple, Sony, HTC and Samsung.
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The only Samsung I liked besides this Tab S was my S2 I337 .
The Nexus 5 is a bad ass phone but the Sense UI is probably the best thing to happen to android vs the buggy happenings of Touchwiz
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i returned my Sony Z2 as the keyboard was not very sensitive and the device laggy.
The tab S screen is much nicer. A little laggy but see other threads about that. Overall its excellent having used it for a little over a month.
Charging is very slow....9 hours from empty.
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The only Samsung I liked besides this Tab S was my S2 I337 .
The Nexus 5 is a bad ass phone but the Sense UI is probably the best thing to happen to android vs the buggy happenings of Touchwiz
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As for me - I enjoy S5 and Gear 2)) I always say, that if someone will combine all the best features from top gadgets - it'll be the best phone (tablet) ever:laugh:
That's why they will never combine them. You wouldn't have any reason to upgrade and spend more money. Take the tab s for instance; it has close to the perfect screen, but they made sure people would want to upgrade by putting in an already ancient chipset GPU and CPU wise. I love mine but I'm aware and pissed that it won't last as long due to that. Planned obsolescence.
With regards to the z2; if you don't use your tab, just look at the aesthetics or need to use it in the shower get the z2, otherwise it's no contest.
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Amoled is nice but I would trade my Tab S for a Nexus 7 in a fast heart beat.
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Just install AOSP and you have the best of both worlds!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHXahMDDXJ8
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Just install AOSP and you have the best of both worlds!
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I have been on the AOSP build since the first build and that's the way android should be in my opinion. Thank you for the recommendation
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10" tablets are optimized for landscape. They're fine in portrait for reading and browsing but they don't really perform well otherwise. I use my 10" tablet in portrait mode only for reading and using S Note and have never had anything near the lag shown in your videos. Chrome pretty much sucks on Samsung's tablets so what's shown in your first video is nothing new. I was at Best Buy today and wanted to see if their S floor model was as bad was what you showed in your second video. It wasn't. So I don't know what's going on either with your specific device or in your specific scenario.
As for Sony's designs I really don't get them. They make paper thin devices with humongous bezels so the h/w internals are spread out over a wide area rather than being stacked making the device a bit thicker. The Z tablet is bigger than the S which has a 10.5" display and huge compared to a Samsung 10" tablet which has the same size screen. I guess I'm just a form follows function kind of guy.
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I don't have an issue using Chrome at all with my Tab S 8.4
It might have something to do with not running Touchwiz on it anymore. Got to love AOSP baby
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