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Gtalk isn't working for me with multi user. Says that only the owner can use.
Anyone else having this come up? Hopefully Google releases a fix -.-
Same problem here, my girlfriend can't use Google Talk within her profile which is very disappointing since the rest of Android 4.2 is absolutely great.
Hope, a fix or workaround will be released soon.
No problem here. Do a factory reset that will resolve most of your issues. And restore apps without data.
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Omar04 said:
No problem here. Do a factory reset that will resolve most of your issues. And restore apps without data.
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Can anybody having the same issue confirm, that factory reset solves this issue?
Thanks in advance!
Same Problem..gtalk only works with device owner ..
kled54 said:
Same Problem..gtalk only works with device owner ..
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same problem for me as well. I don't really want to do a factory reset just for this. I'm at work and without my tablet, so I can't test this, but does clearing data for google talk work as an alternative to factory resetting?
Same here. I think the error message is quite clear and easy to understand: the current google talk application is not compatible with multiuser environments. Update pending.
postm said:
Same here. I think the error message is quite clear and easy to understand: the current google talk application is not compatible with multiuser environments. Update pending.
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I would agree, but Omar04 claims he doesn't have issues, so it appears it is working for some people and not others, unless he is just mistaken.
I tried clear data, it didn't help.
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I tried a factory reset. Didn't work. I hope they are fixing this.
I think they rushed 4.2 out, I expect 4.2.1 soon.
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Brac20 said:
I tried a factory reset. Didn't work. I hope they are fixing this.
I think they rushed 4.2 out, I expect 4.2.1 soon.
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I'm hoping maybe this means Google talk will become an application that gets updates from the play store. I'd take a 4.2.1 release as well
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I'm hoping maybe this means Google talk will become an application that gets updates from the play store. I'd take a 4.2.1 release as well
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I totally agree with the Google Talk becoming a Google Play app. This would be awesome.
On the other hand, it didn't work by factory resetting ?
lambda30 said:
I totally agree with the Google Talk becoming a Google Play app. This would be awesome.
On the other hand, it didn't work by factory resetting ?
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And how should it help? Whis is totally pointless.
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And how should it help? Whis is totally pointless.
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It would be nice because it continues the trend of separating application updates and new functionality from OS updates. It theoretically shouldn't matter on Nexus devices, because they get updates as soon as they are available.
A good example of where it would be great to have it in the play store would be for devices with carrier controlled updates.
My mom has a Droid Incredible 2 on VZW that does have a front facing camera, but the version of google talk doesn't support video chats. As it currently stands, she has to wait for the ICS update (or JB etc) to come out before having any chance of this getting solved. If Google could put it in the Play Store it would alleviate this issue.
They have clearly gone this path with many (most?) of their other apps at this point, so I don't see why it wouldn't continue.
To try and stay on topic though, I don't care too much if the multi-user gtalk problem is solved by an app update or an OS update as long as it gets solved. The multi-user implementation seems really great to me so far, but no gtalk is kind of a dealbreaker.
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It would be nice because it continues the trend of separating application updates and new functionality from OS updates. It theoretically shouldn't matter on Nexus devices, because they get updates as soon as they are available.
A good example of where it would be great to have it in the play store would be for devices with carrier controlled updates.
My mom has a Droid Incredible 2 on VZW that does have a front facing camera, but the version of google talk doesn't support video chats. As it currently stands, she has to wait for the ICS update (or JB etc) to come out before having any chance of this getting solved. If Google could put it in the Play Store it would alleviate this issue.
They have clearly gone this path with many (most?) of their other apps at this point, so I don't see why it wouldn't continue.
To try and stay on topic though, I don't care too much if the multi-user gtalk problem is solved by an app update or an OS update as long as it gets solved. The multi-user implementation seems really great to me so far, but no gtalk is kind of a dealbreaker.
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
lambda30 said:
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Sorry, wrong quote. I meant - how factory reset could help?
I think too Gtalk's come back to Google Play could be a great idea.
rzabcio said:
Sorry, wrong quote. I meant - how factory reset could help?
I think too Gtalk's come back to Google Play could be a great idea.
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Well, I too think it won't help, but I saw what Omar04 suggested. Unfortunately I believe we have to wait for a 4.2.1 release or a Google Play app release to remedy this problem.
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For some weird reason out of this planet when I first update using the OTA posted and added a new user Gtalk was working properly on both accounts, but now that I factory reset using Google factory images vía adb fastboot now I'm on same boat as you, no working Gtalk on other users.
That's my first and only issue at the moment. I will continue testing for some issues posted in several threads. Not related to apps because those resolve when apps get updated as MX Player a few hours ago.
Not able to reproduce the lag yet adding users. (3)
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Yesterday I reflashed Android 4.2 firmware from scratch (fastboot). Unfortunately the issue isn't solved. When I add another user, the new user isn't able to use Gtalk.
This is kind of frustrating. But right now, it's the only app, which really makes problems.
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Update:
For some weird reason out of this planet when I first update using the OTA posted and added a new user Gtalk was working properly on both accounts, but now that I factory reset using Google factory images vía adb fastboot now I'm on same boat as you, no working Gtalk on other users.
That's my first and only issue at the moment. I will continue testing for some issues posted in several threads. Not related to apps because those resolve when apps get updated as MX Player a few hours ago.
Not able to reproduce the lag yet adding users. (3)
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Thanks for sharing these details. Let's hope they know about the problem already and are fixing it.
Hello all,
I'm experiencing this issue since I got my phone, I've experienced it on all roms including stock everything, google edition rom and android revolution HD.
The problem goes like this... I'm using an app, all of a sudden it freezes, I can't perform any tasks on it. I try to force close it and reload it but it becomes frozen. I put my screen to sleep and the device never wakes, only the capacitive buttons do. Then the phone forces a reboot after about 30 seconds.
Sometimes, I try to wake up my phone and it never wakes, it seems apps or something within the android system is frozen.
I have gone through firmware, factory resets, roms and kernels I don't know of what else to do.
Anyone else experiencing this?
I'm on Developers Edition 64gb
By the way the frequency of this happening is about twice a week.
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Probably defective..wouldn't take any chances..so id return it
a box of kittens said:
Probably defective..wouldn't take any chances..so id return it
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agreed, you have a warranty for reason.
Will they send me a new device or a refurb?
S_Dot said:
Will they send me a new device or a refurb?
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Depends how you take action...who are you going through ? How long ago did you get it
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Depends how you take action...who are you going through ? How long ago did you get it
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Didn't receive until June 3rd. What do you mean take action, I mean the phone has been bugged out since day 1 evidently. Thoughts? I'm still scouring to see if it's a rouge app.. can i log this error somehow. I tried alogcat but no luck.
Can any developer chime in?
Found this on android forums, seems to be the same issue http://androidforums.com/htc-one/716007-freezing-lock-up-issues.html
Phone has frozen again ..can a developer or someone seasoned take a look at the logcat
Here http://pastebin.com/hEDm4QW5
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Anyone please
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Hey guys!
On my google play page for my app there aren't any apps shown below (similar apps / user also downloaded). I'm worried that my app also won't show on other app pages and searching my app will be a problem..
Strange, I can't see any, too. But you published it today, right? I'd suggest to wait 2 or 3 days and if there weren't any apps shown below then, I'd contact the Google Play team.
However, if I search for "Pyramid Mover", your app is the first one in the list.
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Strange, I can't see any, too. But you published it today, right? I'd suggest to wait 2 or 3 days and if there weren't any apps shown below then, I'd contact the Google Play team.
However, if I search for "Pyramid Mover", your app is the first one in the list.
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Hey thank! I will contact Google Play, My app has been up for 2 weeks now! I will update it when I get a reply from them for anyone who faces this issue in the future
OK this in crazy where do I get the email to contact them?
Google support got back to me fairly quick,
They says
Please note it may take some time for our servers to update and find appropriate apps to fill all fields.
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Its been up for 2 weeks now, so I dunno how long it'll take. Lets see.
AppDevProject said:
Google support got back to me fairly quick,
They says
Its been up for 2 weeks now, so I dunno how long it'll take. Lets see.
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It takes them 2 weeks? That's long.
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It takes them 2 weeks? That's long.
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I dunno I believe im nearing 3 weeks now still nothing Even though my apps beginning to grow ... I hope it happens soon...
AppDevProject said:
I dunno I believe im nearing 3 weeks now still nothing Even though my apps beginning to grow ... I hope it happens soon...
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It can take up to 1 or 2 months for that, so be patient I guess that it' ok now
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They will show up usually in a month, needn't worry about it.
no similar apps, not showing in search results
AppDevProject said:
Google support got back to me fairly quick,
They says
Its been up for 2 weeks now, so I dunno how long it'll take. Lets see.
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I know this thread is a little old but I'm here for the same reason... first time app publisher and not only does my listing not show any similar apps, the only way to find my app at all is by the exact name. The latter is hard to understand as my description is long and repeats the keywords quite a few times. There are not that many apps which fall under that keyword when I search.
So... how long before you typically start showing up in search results and as per this orginal post, how long does it typically take to also get similar apps listed? I'm guessing those two are linked in some way.
Thanks!
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I know this thread is a little old but I'm here for the same reason... first time app publisher and not only does my listing not show any similar apps, the only way to find my app at all is by the exact name. The latter is hard to understand as my description is long and repeats the keywords quite a few times. There are not that many apps which fall under that keyword when I search.
So... how long before you typically start showing up in search results and as per this orginal post, how long does it typically take to also get similar apps listed? I'm guessing those two are linked in some way.
Thanks!
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What is your app name and niche? Will this be available in IOS, aside from Android?
The one who started this thread, have you figured out how to make your app appear on other mobile OS, aside from Android?
Less than a week ago made an application and went up to Play Store. On the third or fourth day and were discharged me other similar applications.
Do not know if it helps them.
ferdiado said:
Less than a week ago made an application and went up to Play Store. On the third or fourth day and were discharged me other similar applications.
Do not know if it helps them.
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I made some minor changes to my store listing which has resulted in app showing in some searches that I wanted to be in but not all. Its quite frustrating. Still no "similar apps" shown after 1 week but perhaps that is a function of listing being changed, IDK.
! week for me
Hello,
In my case, the similar apps appeared in 1 week.
hph
Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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Note, this procedure is to be followed at your own risk. I have completed this successfully on 3 x Nexus 5 from v4.4, however I can not test all scenarios or be responsible for any subsequent issues, whether related to this method or not. If you cant accept this, then wait for the OTA.
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Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...to-never-clear-google-service-framework-data/
FunkyMagic-UK said:
Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.
Force Stop, Clear Data.
Then check for update in About Phone.
Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.
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No. We already had a long thread about this. Please have a mod close this.
And not to sound rude - but if you're uncomfortable with sideload, you probably shouldn't have a Nexus.
I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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1. If someone who writes the code for Google tells you not to do something and gives you a list of reasons, I would suggest listening. As pointed out in the thread it can cause problems and it isn't always something you notice.
2. Because there is no danger in sideloading. It will either work or refuse to flash.
3. It's a Nexus. It's meant for that kind of thing. It's EXTREMELY easy.
4. If they aren't comfortable with sideloading, they probably wouldn't know whether or not their device had an issue after the update. They could miss out on certain features, apps not functioning properly, etc. You are essentially telling someone computer illiterate that they should do something that could potentially mess something up on their device instead of doing something that is fool-proof. That's irresponsible. Not to mention - they wouldn't even know how to fix it if it did damage anything
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I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.
I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.
Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
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What do you mean you've thoroughly checked? You've isolated and tested the behavior of every single app that uses GCM after a framework data clear?
I mean, you are essentially accusing an Android engineer of taking to reddit to lie.. but why? Considering they have provided an officially supported method of sideloading OTA updates the idea they are "protecting roll out schedule planning" is total nonsense.
There are only 2 possible scenarios here
1) Dan Morrill is being 100% truthful
2) Instead of simply disabling the "Clear Data" button in Framework which would be dead simple, Google has chosen to send engineers to social media to spread lies and misinformation
I upgraded from 4.4 to 4.4.2 with 0 problems , if Google says don't sideload what u gonna do no side load?
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seriously sideload is about the easiest way to do it other than being able to download it direct to the phone and parse the sdcard like the way phones used to work... i know windows machines and that whole "driver" thing you guys need to deal with can get annoying but it's really not difficult. if you are afriad of command prompts then wait the 2 weeks or so that it takes to get it rolled out.
People spend a good amount of time on making instructional threads, gathering information all in one place, doing everything in their power to make it easy for even a complete beginner to do stuff with their phones, and we still have people wanting them to do it the harder way.
And then they defend their thinking with some ridicilous conspiracy theory that completely contradicts the very nature of how Google DEMONSTRATES that they are 100% behind people sideloading (ie: taking the all of 30 seconds it takes to do) an upate onto their phone) by implying that they have a vested interest in slowing down the number of activations?
Seriously now.
You people crack me up. Before this person from google said do not do this we ALL did it multiple time on multiple devices at least I did. No core meltdowns... yet.
remember these are the same people who thought the Nexus 5 camera was good to go as is...
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What do you mean you've thoroughly checked? You've isolated and tested the behavior of every single app that uses GCM after a framework data clear?
I mean, you are essentially accusing an Android engineer of taking to reddit to lie.. but why? Considering they have provided an officially supported method of sideloading OTA updates the idea they are "protecting roll out schedule planning" is total nonsense.
There are only 2 possible scenarios here
1) Dan Morrill is being 100% truthful
2) Instead of simply disabling the "Clear Data" button in Framework which would be dead simple, Google has chosen to send engineers to social media to spread lies and misinformation
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It's not worth your time trying to explain this. There are those who will always believe they are right. They will continue to ignore knowledge provided by those who are experts on the matter and believe they are right.
The most common excuse I read is "I've been doing it for so long without any issues". The technical explanation clearly states that the issues that happen are more often than not invisible to the user. Then they'll take to XDA to create a bunch of threads about "OMGZZZZ MY PHONE IS BROKEZORZ, GOOGLE IS TURNING INTO APPLE...RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" and not even think that the issues might be related to breaking GCM in an app or similar.
Who cares if it can be bad. It can often be easier than sideloading, especially if you don't have a computer near by. I did it while waiting for my plane the other day and it was nice to have the camera improvements before I got to my destination. Just plan to do a factory reset after you get the update if it bothers you.
Not to mention, I am fairly sure whenever you install Google Apps after installing a dirty flashing an updated ROM it does the same thing as clearing data on the framework. I have certain apps I always have to reinstall or they stop getting push updates after doing that.
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It's not worth your time trying to explain this. There are those who will always believe they are right. They will continue to ignore knowledge provided by those who are experts on the matter and believe they are right.
The most common excuse I read is "I've been doing it for so long without any issues". The technical explanation clearly states that the issues that happen are more often than not invisible to the user. Then they'll take to XDA to create a bunch of threads about "OMGZZZZ MY PHONE IS BROKEZORZ, GOOGLE IS TURNING INTO APPLE...RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" and not even think that the issues might be related to breaking GCM in an app or similar.
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I don't want to progress yet another thread about this within two days, but I completely agree with your last point. I bet half of the people that do this will post on here in about a week saying their apps aren't syncing/working and "nexus 5 sucks" etc etc. I've already responded to someone who was asking about his gmail not syncing properly on 4.4.2. I asked him if he cleared the framework to get the update. Would be a great example if that's why he's having the problem.
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Not to mention, I am fairly sure whenever you install Google Apps after installing a dirty flashing an updated ROM it does the same thing as clearing data on the framework. I have certain apps I always have to reinstall or they stop getting push updates after doing that.
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That's not the point. He's not telling people who are familiar with these phones to do it. He's telling people who have no idea what the hell they are doing to do it.
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I don't want to progress yet another thread about this within two days, but I completely agree with your last point. I bet half of the people that do this will post on here in about a week saying their apps aren't syncing/working and "nexus 5 sucks" etc etc. I've already responded to someone who was asking about his gmail not syncing properly on 4.4.2. I asked him if he cleared the framework to get the update. Would be a great example if that's why he's having the problem.
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Alright, the real question here is after someone has cleared the framework, is there a way to recover or go back without restoring a backup or reflashing an OTA from scratch? Or does it just take time for Google to catch up? And DO they eventually catch up to the device? Or is it inevitably doomed once you clear. We can argue about why or why not, but lets figure out how.
Love how people jump on this guy or the one from yesterday who posted it. Been doing this on my past 4 devices. If something clears, wouldn't it be like hard resetting your device. All the information will get populated back. I also believe the engineer said there is a possibility something can go wrong. There is always the possibility something can go wrong with anything!
You can screw up your phone just taking an OOTO. People just need to let it go. We also do not know what his true intentions were for saying that.
If you do not want to clear data, then don't but don't tell others not to do it unless anyone here has experienced a problem first hand in doing so.
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Love how people jump on this guy or the one from yesterday who posted it. Been doing this on my past 4 devices. If something clears, wouldn't it be like hard resetting your device. All the information will get populated back. I also believe the engineer said there is a possibility something can go wrong. There is always the possibility something can go wrong with anything!
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It is not a question of 'if'. If you clear the services framework, Gmail notifications are 100% guaranteed to stop working for a time (could be 10 minutes, could be several days). Thankfully, Gmail is one of the few apps that will eventually realize the GCM id has changed and is able to deal with it. That is not the case for other apps.
The problem is people here don't see their phone or apps crashing and think everything is fine. But a week later they realize stuff isn't syncing or notifications aren't coming in and they blame it on the software update.
Again?? REALLY!! Google say no, like it or not they are the experts...
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Alright, the real question here is after someone has cleared the framework, is there a way to recover or go back without restoring a backup or reflashing an OTA from scratch? Or does it just take time for Google to catch up? And DO they eventually catch up to the device? Or is it inevitably doomed once you clear. We can argue about why or why not, but lets figure out how.
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His true intentions were to stop people from potentially messing up their phones and then ignorantly going online or on an apps review page and spouting off about how broken the app or phone is. To think differently makes no sense.
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I am stuck in boot loop with this method
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Just saw a post about this on G+
I asked the next person that got it to post it here but doubt they understand what is required to do that. Hopefully, one if you all will get it.
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Just saw a post about this on G+
I asked the next person that got it to post it here but doubt they understand what is required to do that. Hopefully, one if you all will get it.
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Unless it helps battery life I am not in any hurry
I just received the update, not sure what it does yet.
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Try saying a text to someone. Does it give you more time?
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I just received the update, not sure what it does yet.
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In the interview with CNET the android guys said it was mostly improved voice and touch response.
Got the update. Only two things I noticed so far is improved touch response (Scrolling through watch faces used to be a little bit of a pain). And it looks to have fixed this weird issue I had with the Dark Analog watch face where it would start to have this weird coloring when trying to dim after getting a notification. Goes perfectly black and white every time now it seems.
KGW42N Update
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Just saw a post about this on G+
I asked the next person that got it to post it here but doubt they understand what is required to do that. Hopefully, one if you all will get it.
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I received the KGW42N update and everything seemed to be going well then it rebooted and became stuck on the Downloading..... Do not turn off the device.
I waited 30 minutes then I held the button for a long time to reboot it. It did the updating 1 of 27 apps message like any Android OS then went to my Matrix Watch Face.
Everything was laggy for quite some time, swiping between screens and google now were horrible.
Also it was dropping Bluetooth connections quite frequently.
Rebooted my phone and Live 3 or 4 times and hopefully everything is good now.
I hope everyone else's update goes smooth.
I did notice my minuum keyboard in wear messenger no longer has the little send key.
I received the update this evening. Voice to text to reply to text messages seems to work better. Will need to use it more to make sure.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...oid-wear-4-4-w-1-build-kgw42n-heres-whats-new
There are also a few new options in the wear app now as well
If you have TWRP flashed on this, the update does write over it with the stock recovery, you will have to reflash TWRP.
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If you have TWRP flashed on this, the update does write over it with the stock recovery, you will have to reflash TWRP.
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I didn't have to????
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I didn't have to.
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I did.