Hello guys!
I need some help with new Kindle Fire Hd.
I plan to use it outside US.
But the guy from Amazon support told me that outside US no internet connection available for device.
Is it even possible to control my wi fi connection over my location?
Here is another user experience using NOT rooted device outside US and sounds like it's completely useless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892574
So I've decide to root my device, problem is this my first android device, and I don't quiet understand is rooting solve this problem?
I understand that rooting gave me ability to install side apps, see file system and stuff.
But what about internet using by location limitation?
So question is it possible to get internet connection on rooted device outside US?
I'm very sorry if it's noobish question, but right now I got pretty short amount of time to get "into android".
Thank You all anyways this place is great source of info!
I live outside the US, and received my Fire HD today.
While it's true that stuff like Amazon Prime doesn't work (and indeed, the Amazon Appstore as a whole), it's far from "completely useless". I rooted it pretty quickly, using the automated script posted here (and thanks the awesome community for that), installed Google Play and got pretty much everything I need on it.
Some apps from Google Play didn't play nice with the Fire at first (Skype and Facebook are two I had problems with), so I figured a kind of a workaround for the Amazon Appstore - just add a second payment method, using a test credit card number (which can be found on Paypal) and a random US address. This method allows you to download the free apps from the Appstore.
My Fire HD has been working fine since I got it 8 hours ago, so there's definitely no internet restriction of any kind if you're outside the US. The only restriction is on the Amazon content, which will hopefully be lifted in the future, as they expand their services.
vorlorg said:
I live outside the US, and received my Fire HD today.
While it's true that stuff like Amazon Prime doesn't work (and indeed, the Amazon Appstore as a whole), it's far from "completely useless". I rooted it pretty quickly, using the automated script posted here (and thanks the awesome community for that), installed Google Play and got pretty much everything I need on it.
Some apps from Google Play didn't play nice with the Fire at first (Skype and Facebook are two I had problems with), so I figured a kind of a workaround for the Amazon Appstore - just add a second payment method, using a test credit card number (which can be found on Paypal) and a random US address. This method allows you to download the free apps from the Appstore.
My Fire HD has been working fine since I got it 8 hours ago, so there's definitely no internet restriction of any kind if you're outside the US. The only restriction is on the Amazon content, which will hopefully be lifted in the future, as they expand their services.
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Thank you very much!
Hi.
I am very angry and frustrated with my Nook HD. It's because even though it now has Google Play store some apps ares till not compatible (like Instagram) and the device is somehow "locked" so one cannot install .apk files to it. So, im in the hunt for an alternative.
My wife has the Kindle Fire HD and i love the screen res, the size, the build and the speakers sound. But it's stuck to downloading apps via Amazon's own app store. I feel having Google Play store (or a very good alternative to the Plays store or Amazon App store) would be nice.
My questions are:
1. Can i download a 3rd-party app store/market on the Amazon app store via the device? If yes then what app store would you recommend?
2. Can i download .apk files on the Kindle Fire HD freely & openly?
Please advice.
Thank you,
gino_76ph said:
Hi.
I am very angry and frustrated with my Nook HD. It's because even though it now has Google Play store some apps ares till not compatible (like Instagram) and the device is somehow "locked" so one cannot install .apk files to it. So, im in the hunt for an alternative.
My wife has the Kindle Fire HD and i love the screen res, the size, the build and the speakers sound. But it's stuck to downloading apps via Amazon's own app store. I feel having Google Play store (or a very good alternative to the Plays store or Amazon App store) would be nice.
My questions are:
1. Can i download a 3rd-party app store/market on the Amazon app store via the device? If yes then what app store would you recommend?
2. Can i download .apk files on the Kindle Fire HD freely & openly?
Please advice.
Thank you,
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1. Yes, you can install Play Store on it, but you have to be rooted. Most apps will work, but some will be stubborn. If you want full compatibility, flash CM10.1.
2. Like previously, most will be compatible. It's called sideloading.
gino_76ph said:
Hi.
I am very angry and frustrated with my Nook HD. It's because even though it now has Google Play store some apps ares till not compatible (like Instagram) and the device is somehow "locked" so one cannot install .apk files to it. So, im in the hunt for an alternative.
My wife has the Kindle Fire HD and i love the screen res, the size, the build and the speakers sound. But it's stuck to downloading apps via Amazon's own app store. I feel having Google Play store (or a very good alternative to the Plays store or Amazon App store) would be nice.
My questions are:
1. Can i download a 3rd-party app store/market on the Amazon app store via the device? If yes then what app store would you recommend?
2. Can i download .apk files on the Kindle Fire HD freely & openly?
Please advice.
Thank you,
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I cover the KF quite a lot. These should help answer your question.
1. 3-rd party appstores. http://androidcowboy.com/2013/05/install-alternative-app-stores-for-kindle-fire-hd-video/
2. Yes. I have collected some here (http://androidcowboy.com/android-apk-files-download/) and sideloading instructions are here (http://androidcowboy.com/2012/01/how-to-sideload-apps-on-kindle-fire/)
I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
Thanks,
someone0 said:
I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
Thanks,
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OK lemme try to answer this to the best of my abilities:
1. If you are asking does the amazon store work decently then yes it works pretty well, and everything u buy will show up in your cloud so u don't have to go to the store and search for it to reinstall it, u just goto ur cloud to do so. Personally I don't like the amazon store as much because IMHO it seems like I could sometimes find newer versions of apps I bought there in the Google store, but that was only in some cases.
2.Google play store works just fine. The Google play store does work in conjunction with the amazon store in a sense, as far as I know if it recognizes an app from the Amazon store and let's say its a free app and the Google store has a more up to date version it will let u update it, but in terms of using both at once they work fine, just don't ever update amazon apps that show up in Google play store as they mess up when updated, and u have to uninstall them.
3. We indeed have custom roms, I am currently on one myself, jesters tablet ui of hashcode's cm10.1. Unfortunately as far as I know there is no way to watch amazon movies on a alternate ROM outside of using flash player on their site, and keep in mind flash player is quite buggy on jb since adobe decided to stop supporting android... My flash player tends to crash when watching videos online if I click inside the flash player more than around 8 times.
Also thought I'd mention from experience I enjoy reading tons of manga on my kindle HD 7”, don't know if u have have been using a web browser for it, but if u have I highly suggest getting a free app called quick manga from the Google play store, it supports a lot of sites and only dl's the picture and displays it while preloading the next few pages. It allows you to bookmark them, keeps track of your current chapter and page, and download chapters if u want for off line viewing as well. I love me some manga! I have over 227 manga total in my library, not all that are ongoing though. If you ever need manga suggestions feel free to pm me!
Hope I answered your questions, I was falling asleep reading manga and got on the forum to wake myself up so I wasn't exactly in the best condition while reading and replying to your questions.
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Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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OK to clear one thing up, on the amazon os, the amazon app store doesn't update, and if it does it does it with the is updates. The kindles linked to your account and always stays signed in unless you unlink it, or for some reason if you clear your cache and dalvik cache , that will also usually unlink it for me.
As to your other question I am not very sure, I have never had an android device before my kindle, I haven't had a cellphone in 2 years since I lost mine outside. The kindle I have is a gift and I am jobless, and after having experience using a kindle and flashing a new is on it I find it fun to do because I'm a PC tech. But I look at it this way, if a new kindle comes out, we will first have to find out how to root it, this may be the easier part. Second we would have to determine if its even feasible to be able to put a custom or 2nd boot loader on it like the past 3(not counting first gen because it was already unlocked). So if the new one came out and u wanted to get one right away the nexus would probably be a better idea unless you want to wait and see how the new one would be in terms of rooting and flashing. But personally since I haven't used any other tablets, the kindle has grown on me, so I would probably get the new one if I could assuming the conditions above could be met.
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someone0 said:
And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
-T
If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.
Thank you, I will keep an eye out for that custom rom. I would not have known that if I didn't post the question nor dig deeply in the KFHD scene.
JulianPaoloThiry said:
If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.
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I'm pretty much like you, T-Bone, while I'm using Nook HD+, ,y launcher of choice has always been Nova. And generally, I would not install the additional google store myself. Never touch those book/music/etc store and sometime I even use Titanium backup and force remove those stuff myself.
T-BoneFL said:
As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
-T
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I guess that mean, I'll wait for Amazon announcement and pre-order the new KFHD if the apec goes according to the rumor. Thank you for all your insightful input.
I'm not looking for cracked apps or anything. My kids are using an android app to earn amazon gift cards. The only way to convert that to Robux (in game money) is to use a Kindle fire HD or better. I'm attempting to use my FireTV Stick since I don't have a kindle fire hd. I can side load apps but I can't find a version of Roblox in apk form that let's me use amazon credit to buy Robux. They all want Google Play store when trying to buy Robux. The version that gets installed using Kindle Fire HD is the only one that I've ever found that let's you do that.
Does anyone have a link to the Amazon version of Roblox apk? I think that will work on the FireTV stick. Not to play the game but I think it will work to convert amazon money to Robux. I would even be happy to try a titanium backup if someone was willing.
The game is free by the way so I'm not asking for anything illegal or shady.
Let me clarify a bit:
- There isn't a version of Roblox available through the normal Amazon FireTV search menu.
- I have to sideload Roblox using a downloaded apk. When trying to buy Robux I am presented with Google Play Store option. I need the option to buy using Amazon acct.
- I am in the Kindle Fire HD forum asking for someone to share a free download of Roblox from the Amazon App Store. This version let's me use Amazon acct. to pay for Robux.
Nobody wants to help throw me a bone here?
So I found a Kindle Fire HD and grabbed the Roblox apk off of it and installed it on my FireStick. No go. Oh well.
Lonely thread
Why did you dig this up? With only just some clicks Roblox apknite, you will get the apk file.
getting a kindle fire for 49.99 from amazon. i was wondering how hard it is to install google services. i see a tutorial for root/and google services. i have been a google android person for a liong time, the only reason i am gettting is because its all i can afford. and have already tried to tablets same price. was wondering to what extent google service are installed, like the app store, can i download apk's thru browser and play them on the kindle?
thanX in advance
barelynotlegal said:
getting a kindle fire for 49.99 from amazon. i was wondering how hard it is to install google services. i see a tutorial for root/and google services. i have been a google android person for a liong time, the only reason i am gettting is because its all i can afford. and have already tried to tablets same price. was wondering to what extent google service are installed, like the app store, can i download apk's thru browser and play them on the kindle?
thanX in advance
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One thing I want to mention - if you are planning to replace amazon software do not let your tablet connect to the internet. Do not play with it before rooting and disabling OTA update. If it updates to certain version of software it is not possible to root anymore.