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I love my Nexus One.
What i miss is the scrolling from the iPhone OS.
You know, if you are in the settings or browser app and start scrolling until the end, it's like a smooth finish in the iPhone OS.
Anyone knows if that's possible to integrate in the Android System?
I don't have any coding skills, therefore i don't know if it's complicated to implement.
- Darky.
Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.
As soon as I saw the title of this thread I grabbed my popcorn, this is going to be good lol
Brut.all said:
Could you explain, what do you mean exactly? Not everyone have an iPhone.
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Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.
te_quiero_forever_girl said:
Its not that easy to explain ! You can go to youtube to see it yourself. And I agree that the scrolling system on the Iphone OS is amazing.
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I've just watched several videos, but seems I didn't run into this feature or I just didn't notice it.
I personally think that contacts-list-like scrolling in Android is just perfect, I can't imagine anything better. I could select an item from list of hundreds of items (music app) in ~5 seconds
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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Ahhh, maybe I was thinking about something useful, not just looking, so I might miss it on videos
Clarkster said:
I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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maybe he mean kinetic scrolling
Froyo already does this.
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The iPhone has very nice scrolling, I think Androids improved in froyo but there is still that resolution/quality change when holding down to scroll of course those who are lucky enough to have never spent much time with an iphone dont really notice this as a shortcoming . But I think op wants the desktops new bounceback feature to be throughout the ui. Personally the issue I described is what I really hope gets smoothed out if anything; I dont have preference for the ops request but maybe it would be cool if implemented...then again maybe I don't actually understand the ops request.
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I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
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I think what he means is that the scrolling doesn't instantly stop when you hit the bottom, it goes beyond about 10-20 pixels and then springs back.
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That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
Darkyy said:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..
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I was going to say the same, Vanilla Android needs a lot of overall UI improvements.. Google doesn't seem to be to good in that department..
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Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.
I agree that stock Android needs a design upgrade (prob why 3.0 is slated to have a UI Refresh and they brought over that guy from Palm so obviously they are fully aware of it)
But as for the lil bounce back...to me it doesn't really matter.
I wouldn't bother trying to implement something like this until Google changes some underlying systems. Scrolling on the iPhone is definitely GPU assisted.
Darkyy said:
I'm also using Froyo (Paul's pre-rooted FRF50). It doesn't have the scrolling I described.
In fact, there is kinetic scrolling in Android, but not the same as Clarkster explained:
That's what I miss. In HTC ROMs (with Sense), this 'scrolling' is implemented in every app (system wide).
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Yes, i really love this scrolling feature on Iphone too, even though i have everything else about it lol
Brut.all said:
Maybe they just want to give people a choice? I don't like Sense, many people don't like it. Currently I could buy N1, you could buy Desire and we both have, what we want. If such effects would be integral part of Android, I would have no choice.
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Um, excuse me, did I say slap Sense on top of Vanilla and be done with it? I said Vanilla itself needs a UI overhaul - it is plain, colorless, lacks design that would add to its overall "pop". And as the OP stated, it also lacks delicious eye candy such as physics. At least Sense tries to appeal to the user.. its shiny, well put together, and 'aesthetically' pleasing - its smooth and differs from Vanilla in oh so many ways.. it attempts to make users ah and ooh when they see it perform.. and no, I am not running Sense on my Nexus, while I easily have the choice to so, it hasn't yet been graced by Froyo..
Hopefully hiring Palm's UI designer will somehow better Android..
Do you mean overshoot like in the ADW launcher? Where it goes a little past the edge and bounces into place?
Kenetic snap back would be nice. With a touch screen there is no tactile feedback so visual indicators like that are quite helpful. It really feels a lot more natural than an abrubt stop at the bottom of a list. I've noticed that some parts of the system are slowly starting to add effects like that. The new launcher in 2.1 does it, and the 3D gallery does something similar as well.
There are a lot of little things about the iPhone UI that you really don't notice until they are taken away. But I don't agree that great UIs are not Google's thing. Every Google web product is super slick and simple and their chrome browser is as well. I think they are just focusing their efforts on other areas first.
If you read some of apple's patents, the kinetic snap back is patented by them so that's probably why nobody else implements it.
Does anyone know if Google is planning on actually eventually using the GPU to accelerate the UI? Looking at Iphones, I get jealous of the super smooth scrolling and can't help but be annoyed by horrible flash scrolling. Thanks for the Flash Google, but please actually USE the hardware I paid so much for!
I'm using ADW Launcher and my scrolling is perfectly smooth.
Adequate launcher is really smooth
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same here. adw is smoother then ever.
I hear what your saying. running cm 6 froyo, with flash, stable jit.... can't think of another mobile o.s. that I rather be running. ecspecially on my nexus
Adw launcher is really smooth
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Well... If youre using the Stock-ROM with Stock-Launcher i believe thats not super-smooth.
Iam using CM6 with LauncherPro and just like the Guy above me wrote: I've never seen a phone which is faster and smoother like this. Just today a good friend of me with iP4 was impressed about this.
I think he's talking about all scrolling, with which I agree, something may be doable about it. Not sure where one would go about to do that though,
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Yeah I'm using Launcher Pro which works fine, but scrolling webpages...and sometimes pulling up menus and yes...even launcher pro sometimes doesn't scroll so smoothly with a live wallpaper. It just seems silly to have our main cpu doing all this work when the gpu is just sitting there. PS. if you think the nexus scrolling is smooth go look at the scrolling on an Iphone, it is a thing to behold.
dude i had an iphone... the sensitivity of the scrolling on there is not as smooth as adw launcher with scrolling settings jacked up and o'cd so ... stf ^ and go away ... u iphone n00b.
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dude i had an iphone... the sensitivity of the scrolling on there is not as smooth as adw launcher with scrolling settings jacked up and o'cd so ... stf ^ and go away ... u iphone n00b.
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Wow that's a lot of hatred lol!
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akaine2001 said:
dude i had an iphone... the sensitivity of the scrolling on there is not as smooth as adw launcher with scrolling settings jacked up and o'cd so ... stf ^ and go away ... u iphone n00b.
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This is why nobody likes you. I've used iPhones, they scroll better
Anyway, launcherpro is very smooth. I thing android phones should be a lot smoother though in stock form. I understand relying on 3rd party development to a point. But scrolling should have been taken care of by android. But android puts stuff out fast then works on it, as long as they intend to improve it that's all I ask.
lol.. iphone hater.. personally i like both.. i prefer iphone games, music/video player, keyboard but i prefer the freedom of android..
i was thinking of galaxy S.. damm it is so much cheaper then when i got my Nexus one.. maybe i should swap for it..
I'm not just talking about home screen scrolling, I'm talking about ALL menus, web browsing, the app drawer, etc. You need to calm down and admit that having a gpu and not using it for rendering graphics is stupid. I love android and my nexus, that's why I have it INSTEAD of an Iphone, just looking for some asthetic improvments.
That's one thing Apple is good with for sure...Eye Candy.
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Any updates? Is gingerbread supposed to implement a GPU accelerated UI?
And from all places, what makes you think that here you'll find an official answer, when there are no Gingerbread highlights available to the public yet?
Sometimes I'm amazed by the easiness with which people press the "Post" button, just to avoid actually doing something to find out the answer to their question.
What a clown
Do you really need to respond like that? Really? What does that accomplish? I did a quick google search for gingerbread updates and came up empty regarding this topic. PERHAPS it was mentioned in an OLDER gingerbread article somewhere that isn't so easily accessible. Geez...if you don't want to respond...don't, but don't a douche about it either. After all, this is a message board...ya know...where people talk about STUFF...even roomered stuff!
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I'm not just talking about home screen scrolling, I'm talking about ALL menus, web browsing, the app drawer, etc. You need to calm down and admit that having a gpu and not using it for rendering graphics is stupid. I love android and my nexus, that's why I have it INSTEAD of an Iphone, just looking for some asthetic improvments.
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Try Opera Mobile (not mini) for smoother web scrolling. It's not hardware accelerated yet, but it zooms and scrolls an order of magnitude smoother than the stock browser. It will get hardware acceleration soon, as that is one of their key advertised features. The next beta of Firefox Mobile will have it as well.
There was a rumor a while back that 3.0 (which at the time was thought to be Gingerbread, before we found out 2.3 would be Gingerbread, that there would be a hardware accelerated UI. The basis of this rumor was that the next UX would be similar to that of the Gallery 3D appilcation.
The reason you came up empty is because there are no Gingerbread specs available, not even highlights. You know, it's Google behind the OS, if you run a search for specs and you see no official info - means there is none.
And perhaps the reason for reacting like that is that this thread is "only" no.23947659234 Gingerbread thread, while there is absolutely no real information available, and it gets really annoying that the forum is full of speculations and misinformation.
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Do you really need to respond like that? Really? What does that accomplish? I did a quick google search for gingerbread updates and came up empty regarding this topic. PERHAPS it was mentioned in an OLDER gingerbread article somewhere that isn't so easily accessible. Geez...if you don't want to respond...don't, but don't a douche about it either. After all, this is a message board...ya know...where people talk about STUFF...even roomered stuff!
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Stop being jerks guys.
Honestly, GPU Acceleration would be fantastic...although CM is doing a great job making the N1 very smooth (and probably other ROMs and kernels) it would still be nice to have such a feature...even just to show off to my iPhone 4 friends haha
Any chance some enterprising dev could get this running on our nexus 7's
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/
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That would be cool if they could, but I'm guessing this is deeply integrated into Touch wiz.
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Umm .. *cough* *cough* Cornerstone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc
It's open source. Roman made an ICS/AOKP/Cornerstone build a long time ago ... felt it was too buggy to continue.
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AOKP got this request recently.
Seems a Cornerstone build would be the only way out...which is unlikely.
I'm fully aware this would probably be quite difficult to port, and likely quite time consuming.
Having said that, I also want this. It makes so much more sense on a 7 inch tablet then a 5 inch whatever.
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Running 2 apps at the same time. Seems like a great idea to me. It supports a limited amount of apps, but unlike Galaxy Note 10.1, you could probably hack in other apps to work.
khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
This would be *nice* to have but I don't know how much easier it would be then to just multitasking between 2 apps now and having the apps full screen. I can see some of the benefits like watching a youtube video while chatting on Google Talk. There are some good alternatives such as popup video players and notepads that overlay on top of current app and typically are resizable and movable.
While it makes sense this would be better on a 7" then a 5"... it really would be best on a 10". 7" barely gives me enough breathing room for 1 app. Plus most of the "compatible apps" are simple things like a calculator and notes
Well it seems VERY useful to me.
It's better than popup apps in my opinion - more app options.
Overscreen browser is a great alternative for now
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No, it's not.
This allows multiple apps to run side by side, Overskreen is just the browser. Also, it's not even compatible with Jelly Bean, so no one who owns a Nexus 7 can use it.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
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No, as I said, handful of specific Google apps. Read up on it. Will the list grow? Maybe? I'd have to guess it is a sdk used to support the function, is it worth app dev time to do it and possibly maintain multiple versions of their app?
more then google apps
Not just google apps can do this on the samsung note 10.1 .
samsng snote and lecture app
browser
vidoe player
picture gallery
polaris office
Photo shop (special note version)
I think there a few others that are on the samsung web app store. Samsung sbe adding apps to this.
Now for the bubble burst. The reason they work on the galaxy note is the new QUAD Core cpu and 2 GB Very fast ram .. samsung tried to release a less ram/power version of the 10.1 note with a higer res display. they backed the display down and increased the cpu//ram. this is also to support the WACOM S PEN..
I have been reading alot about the device because mine will be here Monday. So the above if from my reading and research. I can update you more mid next week.. I do not see a need for split windows on a 7 inch screen .. get the overscreen browser and try it.. JUST Does not work for productive work...
Hope this help make it more understandable... too bad samsung did not make the n7 . i give up because of the screen issues sent two of them back and will NOT order a 3rd...
Dude. Overskreen DOES NOT work on Jelly Bean. And it is just one app, vs an entire suite of Google Apps.
Also there's no need for window management.
Nexus 7 has a quad-core processor too, just less RAM - which isn't even a problem, it still can handle side by side apps.
And you're telling some weird stuff here. We are talking about Galaxy Note 2, which allows more apps, and works better. AND it works on a 5 inch screen, so it'll be awesome on a seven inch.
So yeah, please don't come back with your 'research' to tell us that you think that this feature is unnecessary.
i hope sincerely as a dev can make a mod for port this feature in future beacause it's very usefull even if work only with google apps it's better ,
anyone know if a moded youtube apps existing for play a video on background because i search since 3 month but not find ?
thx
I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
While i would love to have or port this it simply isnt possible, it requires a lot of changing to the frameworks and it would be hard to decompile all of samsungs sources and extract it.
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I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
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Stock android not, but there are a few roms with cornerstone, i think mainly on 10 inch tablets.
Web os did this kinda on a dual core wish android would absorb that multitasking feature right now running multiple apps kinda is a hit and miss
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Hi,
I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?
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I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?
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Yes Android Does have bug and lag but its getting a lot better compare to 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 4.0 4.1 4.2 each update has improved whole OS bit better, but still needs more time to mature but same time İOS or Windows Phone is very limited so i assume more thing to do means more codes and more codes mean more fault. İ have HTC One and İphone 5 but HTC One feels faster than İphone 5 in my eyes but another fact is Android needs more power so maybe next chipsets like S800 or Tegra 4 may make transaction more smoother. Android is not best idea on budget smartphone cos as i said needs more power.
There are a lot of rumours that Android Key Lime Pime will be more smoother and less power hungry need to wait and see but enjoy whole experience of android its free and open its getting better every day
sorry for bad spell etc
As a past user of an iPhone 4s and current user of a HTC one, lag is way more prevalent in the 4s.Examples 1.Open the app store. 2. Switch between apps a couple times. 3. Swipe to the search screen. The one never lags for me. Ever. I'm a pretty intensive user with lots of apps running at once. Not to mention the speed at which the one works compared to the iPhone. It still has awesome animations but does them faster. Seriously you must have some rogue app going crazy in the background or something.
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I have the same feeling.
I've owned over 10 android devices and an iPhone 4 and 5, and when I'm on an iPhone I hate that I'm not able to do anything... and while when I'm on an Android phone I LOATHE the constant stutter/lag/inconcistancy.
You can't have your cake and eat it too... I guess.
EDIT: To answer your quesion: no, you can't.
EDIT2: just thought of WebOS, smooth, whith it's modding repositories *starts wheeping*
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Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
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You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)
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You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)
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hold an iPhone and an android phone side by side, the difference will be noticeble to everyone.
I think the OP is referring to apps that haven't yet been optimized for the 1920x1080 screen of the One and the S4. Animations such as those in Words with Friends look jerky in comparison with the iOS counterpart. It may be something you'll need to learn to live with. With Android phones of all different sizes out there, you're never going to get 100% app compatibility.
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hold an iPhone and an android phone side by side, the difference will be noticeble to everyone.
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Like I said I can' t see any stutter or lag, not in the default apps or sense at least
Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.
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Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.
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like I said you need to give some specific examples of lag or stutter because I can't see it, not in sense nor in the stock apps. I can see lag and stutter for example in chrome (and new opera) but stock (and opera classic) are smooth, app drawer buttery smooth, settings buttery smooth, whatsapp smooth, blinkfeed smooth
Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.
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Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.
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oh I don' t use any of those apps, mostly the stock ones and google apps and these are all buttery smooth (with the exception of chrome and sometime the play store).
I think these laggy apps all use webkit to draw their UI, webkit will lag the UI when loading, even on a powerful desktop. One of the chrome devs congrateluted opera, when the switched to webkit how fluid they had made opera when presto was still loading, something which they hadn't figured out to do yet
what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly
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what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly
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I'm currently on stock 4.1.2 from HTC, the European version for the HTC_001. I've also tried the Android Revolution HD 4.2.2, but the problem still persisted. It was better, but still not 'buttery smooth'.
As to when it happens - Sense is largely ok, when swiping through the screens you can't really see any lag. Unless going between the app launcher and the blinkfeed.
But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web browser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
I've tried firefox, chrome, stock browser, and all of them have the same problem.
There are also apps, facebook, even the keyboard lags!
Now, I don't know about you, but I think it's the resolution that causes the problem. I'd rather have lower resolution with say, 300 ppi, which is not really noticeably worse than that of the One, and at the same time have an OS that does not suffer from these problems.
Because in all honesty, the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
I'm still hoping that somebody will come up with something that can fix it.
Because I'm really sensitive about this stuff myself, and love the idea of android at the same time. Not to mention the hardware of ONE.
But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
So I think it'll be back to the iPhone for now. My contract on it ends in a year, so let's hope Google does some magic with Android, and maybe forces manufacturers to release properly optimized software. But I fear that's just wishful thinking.
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...the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
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You said it yourself, that can't be right.
chris_abr said:
...But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
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You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
If you're getting stuttering with certain apps, don't use them. Poorly made apps usually have alternatives.
So far, the only big app I'm getting stuttering with is the Chrome/Chrome Beta app. It would be nice if it wasn't there but, thanks to features like data compression saving me roughly 50% on data use, I can look past it. I also get it with the facebook app, but that is such a **** app.
There are probably some other apps I get it with but, to be completely honest, lag and stuttering hasn't been noticeable in my daily use. This phone is fast as hell... Faster even than a 15 year old car. What a deal!
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ataft said:
You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
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haha!
What I was trying to say, that these phones cost extremely high amounts of money, and yet don't work properly.
I mean, having used Lumia 520 a few weeks ago for a few days, I can safely say that I would recommend that over the One, simply on the 'niceness of use'. And that phone costs £100 in the UK.. One costs over £450 at the cheapest.
As to the apps - I get that, but if you read my post, you'd know that I mentioned all of the popular apps, I try to stay away from the lesser known developers, as they tend not to do so much testing on their apps, and thus providing a terrible experience most of the time (not so much on iOS, as Apple does a lot of testing before they put the app up on the market, something that would be nice to have on android too).
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But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web bowser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
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some sites lag in some browsers some sites in all, some sites even lag on my powerful core i5 laptop running windows 8, sometimes it' s bug in the browser, sometimes a bug in the website. I'll bet you you will come across laggy sites on the iphone too. XDA is buttery smooth for me though (at least the forum, which I always watch in compact view and I hated the contextual search so I disabled that in forum preferences)
Honestly I've used android from the start back when the g1 was released. Going from that to the g2 now the HTC one. Even on my g2 on some Roms I barley had lag issues now on the one I don't see any stutter or lag or slow downs.. But I guess that's just me.
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I guess we can both be happy that are devices aren't as bad as the OP
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I don't think it's a problem with my particular device though.
I've watched many reviews online, and the very same things that happened on my device were happening on those being reviewed.
Things like:
When browsing google images, you open one image and then swipe to look at the next one, htc one starts to render an animation and then 1/4th of the way just stutters to the picture. On the iPhone it's just a nice, fluid animation.
Another, the original keyboard is rather bad, you press a key, and the pop up with letter comes on, you depress the key and the preview is still there for at least half a second.
Also, a more general one - when you install something from the play store and try to browse for another app on it at the same time - it stutters beyond belief.
And sense one - where are the animations when closing an app/window? I feel like using windows Vista on a 2005 pc with 1gb ram..
It's very small things, but they do not happen on the iPhone, and I just feel like the experience is more pleasurable and consistent on iOS. Not to mention WP, which is even faster than iOS in my opinion.
The iPhone and WP may not be faster hardware wise, or performance wise even, but the animation, and transitions between doing things are just incredibly badly implemented on Android.
I'd rather see it being done like on the iPhone - when the phone is installing or doing something in the background, that action stops when you try and use the phone. That way, it may perform worse, and install the app slower, but the experience is really good, and no stutter occurs. Whereas android sort of tries to do everything at the same time.
But again, that may be just me being very bothered about things like this, most people don't see it as a problem, but it annoys the hell out of me, hence this thread. I was hoping that there is some tweak for the One that makes the experience more pleasurable whilst maybe decreasing the performance a little.
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I am new to android. I switched from iphone 5 to moto x. I got the fone yesterday and having some serious problems. Scrolling especially in facebook is very laggy. Browser is ok but facebook app is terrible. Its not the same case in iphone 5 where its buttery smooth. So my doubt is, is the fb app lags same on all android phones or just the moto x? even i will get ocassional hiccups on twitter. Is it normal. Can it be optimized by tweaking any settings? I love the phone but this thing sucks
Thanks
can't help you. i get no lag in scrolling in fb.
Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
gunnyman said:
Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
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i'm on the beta one. maybe that is the issue
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Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
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murso74 said:
i'm on the beta one. maybe that is the issue
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As someone who has always greenified facebook before, is the beta FB app worth it over the normal one?
I've honestly not worried about apps or syncing or shutting off anything. This phone lasts ALL day for me with NOTHING turned off.
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As someone who has always greenified facebook before, is the beta FB app worth it over the normal one?
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the most recent beta has been working flawless for me. however the ones before it had issues. beta is beta, just like nightlies. sometimes you get a bad one.
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I've honestly not worried about apps or syncing or shutting off anything. This phone lasts ALL day for me with NOTHING turned off.
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I generally don't care about facebook notifications because I'm not a terribly active user. Most notifications are a few friends that post way more than they should and I could care less so I turn them off. Because i dont need the notifications, I generally always greenified it.
gunnyman said:
Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
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Facebook is the possible root of some of my issues with wifi.
Trolling?
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Welcome to android. Scrolling in third party apps is rarely smooth on android. My iPhone 5 is flawless in that regard. It's because on android, app developers don't have to follow strict standards like on ios. Tweaking will not really help with the Facebook app. Source: tweaking both android and ios for 2 years.
You will notice quite a few android users will flat out deny any lag in an effort to defend their purchase decision. Just something I've noticed.
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facebook app sucks, try just using your browser it will be much quicker and less of a battery hog. You can always set a bookmark on the browser and add that to your homescreen.
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facebook app sucks, try just using your browser it will be much quicker and less of a battery hog. You can always set a bookmark on the browser and add that to your homescreen.
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But then, you lose the top panel that allows you to make a new post, see your notifications etc unless you scroll all the way to the top. That's the way I remember it. Did they change that?
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But then, you lose the top panel that allows you to make a new post, see your notifications etc unless you scroll all the way to the top. That's the way I remember it. Did they change that?
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you are correct. You would need to scroll to the top to see those.
thanks for all your replys.. this is the only issue i am having.. and the battery is a beast in this phone. On heavy usage with 5hrs+ screen time and 3hrs of phone calls my phone is at 3% after 15 hours which is way way better than my iphone. I had tried stream app for facebook and its nice scrolling is a bit smooth and some features are missing. I will try the beta app as suggested.
Thanks again
What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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only lag or stutter i get with the moto x is in the chive app and xda developers app. These are app related not android related. Moto x has been publicized as one of the best android experience to date for partially these reasons. Apple will always be better though. One phone built for one software. Even though the latest release for apple really screwed up how well older devices worked.
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What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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And yet you are here
I just came from an iPhone 5 and am using the Nexus 5 now (soon to be owner of the Moto X), and I can tell you that I have had no lags on my Nexus 5 at all. Just because app developers dont code their apps properly, and manufacturers insist on slapping their phones with bloated skins, doesn't mean the OS itself sucks.
And the fact that android stands up to iOS in smoothness, when iOS is NOWHERE close to Android in terms of functionality is a testament to Google and their OS.
And no I am not a fanboy by any stretch of imagination. I regularly switch between iOS and android phones (albeit only the top end ones) and have an iPad mini as my tablet right now (which I got after flipping my nexus 10)
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And yet you are here
I just came from an iPhone 5 and am using the Nexus 5 now (soon to be owner of the Moto X), and I can tell you that I have had no lags on my Nexus 5 at all. Just because app developers dont code their apps properly, and manufacturers insist on slapping their phones with bloated skins, doesn't mean the OS itself sucks.
And the fact that android stands up to iOS in smoothness, when iOS is NOWHERE close to Android in terms of functionality is a testament to Google and their OS.
And no I am not a fanboy by any stretch of imagination. I regularly switch between iOS and android phones (albeit only the top end ones) and have an iPad mini as my tablet right now (which I got after flipping my nexus 10)
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very true. The only app that lags for me is facebook, and I stopped using that a while ago, so it doesn't even matter.
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What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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Not sure what phones you are using, but I haven't had these issues since my sgs2... Since then, it was only minimal lag and stutter... Until the moto x. I have had 1 rrb since I owned this phone (2 months) when it lags and stutters it is so limited and or imperceptible that I don't notice.
I'm no fanboy, I've used iOS extensively and it is a very very smooth experience, yes, more so than on Android, but that is to be expected considering their iron grip on the entire system.
What's funny is the way Apple has designed their os to hide the existence of app and system crashes. There is a setting in iOS that is a debugging/usage statistic report that gets sent to apple, if you have it enabled and then read the log you will see what's going on behind the scenes.
One of my employees and I were talking about this, he has an iPhone 5 and I asked him if his phone ever crashes or if apps force close, he said never. I then asked him if you ever are in an app and it just randomly goes back to the home screen, he said yes, and it was a common occurrence. He thought it was him pushing a button or something... Anyways, I explained that this was the apps force closing, it's just that Apple has cleverly disguised it, unlike Android which tells you point blank.
But I digress... I asked him to go to this setting and see if it was enabled, it was and so we looked at the bug report. There were over 2 dozen app crashes, Facebook and bluealien (reddit) were the main culprits, but also safari and a few others. All completely unknown to him because if the sly way Apple coded their os.
What my point is, is that even iOS is not perfect, and I found that there were more crashes on any iPhone 5 vs even my sgs3 and exponentially more than my moto x... Apple just hides it very very well.
Tldr: Apple hides the existence of os/app crashes, they happen more than anyone knows.
Moto X rocking 4.4