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I haven't watched the youtube video, but this is promising. I might consider getting an extended warranty for only 19 bucks for this thing!
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Squaretrade Warranty
I guess 19 is for the 200 version. I got the 16 gig version and the warranty is 27 bucks.
I saw that too but the guy was a little biased. He didn't show the damage the nexus 7 took at the top right corner when they slipped it off the sidewall
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You realize that that was a commercial for SquareTrade, right?
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You realize that that was a commercial for SquareTrade, right?
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After watching the video, yes, I do realize that.
It wasn't entirely scientific, but did give the impression that the iPad is far more vulnerable to impacts on the edge and corners. Probably a result of having the glass bezel go all the way to the outer edge as opposed to the thin trim present on the Nexus.
>It wasn't entirely scientific, but did give the impression that the iPad is far more vulnerable to impacts on the edge and corners
The results are irrelevant. The video's purpose is to heighten your sensitivity to drops and water damage, and conveniently includes a link to remove those fears (at only nominal cost, of course).
Of course the iPad is more vulnerable. It has more mass, which means greater impact from a drop. Its metallic back also has less give than N7's rubber back.
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The results are irrelevant. The video's purpose is to heighten your sensitivity to drops and water damage, and conveniently includes a link to remove those fears (at only nominal cost, of course).
Of course the iPad is more vulnerable. It has more mass, which means greater impact from a drop. Its metallic back also has less give than N7's rubber back.
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This video's purpose was irrelevant. Of course they're trying to sell insurance, so what? The difference between them has little to do with the mass, a 100g sheet of glass will crack when dropped on its edge just like a 200g sheet will. But differences in the design channel the force of impact in different directions, and it seems that on the iPad a lot of that force goes into the glass because it's more exposed. It's perfectly possible to design a rigid metal shell that would absorb more of the impact and deform in a way that wouldn't crack the glass, but that might not be as aesthetically pleasing.
>Of course they're trying to sell insurance, so what?
So it's rather inane to think that the drop comparisons mean anything, which they don't. The drops as already mentioned weren't controlled, which relegate the ensuing damage to random chance. You can play what-if games all you like, but none of your suppositions are reflected in the video.
Your protestations of "possibly" differing construction notwithstanding, it's a rather basic law of physics that a heavier object when dropped will result in a larger impact than a lighter object, c.p. Perhaps iPad is made of sturdier design, but you won't know from this video, or from empty pontifications.
50 Bucks if you want the ADH on the 16gb not to bad...Will be getting it for my wife when I buy her one.
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I saw that too but the guy was a little biased. He didn't show the damage the nexus 7 took at the top right corner when they slipped it off the sidewall
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Noticed that myself: 1:14 "Glass looks okay....." ( edit out screwed up corner ) "Back looks pretty good."
Still its good to hear if I drop this once there is a chance it won't shatter the screen, like every other non-ipad device.
16 Gig is actually 29.99 not 27
I bought my warranty last night. It was 39.99 for 2yrs plus accidental for my 16 gig
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>Of course they're trying to sell insurance, so what?
So it's rather inane to think that the drop comparisons mean anything, which they don't. The drops as already mentioned weren't controlled, which relegate the ensuing damage to random chance. You can play what-if games all you like, but none of your suppositions are reflected in the video.
Your protestations of "possibly" differing construction notwithstanding, it's a rather basic law of physics that a heavier object when dropped will result in a larger impact than a lighter object, c.p. Perhaps iPad is made of sturdier design, but you won't know from this video, or from empty pontifications.
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I'll leave the pontifications to you, you seem quite good at them.
If their aim was just to sell insurance they'd have biased the drops to show the Nexus 7 taking more damage in the hopes of frightening all those new Nexus owners. Obviously. The same people (squaretrade) posted a video a while ago showing that simply attaching a smart cover to an iPad might protect the glass from cracking. (because it will alter the force distribution). Why did they tell people to go and buy a cover instead of buying their insurance?
And there's no 'possible' about it - the construction of the iPad is radically different to the Nexus 7. The iPad is heavier, but most of the difference in weight is due to the larger battery, what matters is the way the glass is mounted (and the actual composition of the glass, which can alter its resistance to breakage by as much as three times).
No-one ever claimed these tests were scientific or controlled, don't know why you're getting your panties in a twist over that.
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I'll leave the pontifications to you, you seem quite good at them.
If their aim was just to sell insurance they'd have biased the drops to show the Nexus 7 taking more damage in the hopes of frightening all those new Nexus owners. Obviously. The same people (squaretrade) posted a video a while ago showing that simply attaching a smart cover to an iPad might protect the glass from cracking. (because it will alter the force distribution). Why did they tell people to go and buy a cover instead of buying their insurance?
And there's no 'possible' about it - the construction of the iPad is radically different to the Nexus 7. The iPad is heavier, but most of the difference in weight is due to the larger battery, what matters is the way the glass is mounted (and the actual composition of the glass, which can alter its resistance to breakage by as much as three times).
No-one ever claimed these tests were scientific or controlled, don't know why you're getting your panties in a twist over that.
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If the "true" purpose of the video is to sell more insurance (only they know for sure) then they most certainly did the right thing by making the iPad look more fragile. Reason being, despite the N7 being a new tablet, the iPad currently have the most market share compared to the N7, and the iPad costs more so there's a higher chance people would want to insure their $500 iPad than their $250 N7.
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16 Gig is actually 29.99 not 27
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I had the price quote based on $250, and not for the total price I paid including tax and shipping. My quote was 26.99.
But just based on pure physics, F=m*a, so of course the Ipad will hit with more force than the n7.
When I went to the check out part, apparently the coverage for accidental drops and whatnot is not included in that warranty. Its an extra $33. But no deductible. I wish I would have known about this place a few weeks ago
>If their aim was just to sell insurance they'd have biased the drops to show the Nexus 7 taking more damage in the hopes of frightening all those new Nexus owners. Obviously.
My, such certitude. It must be nice to know everything.
I'm not blessed with such gifts, but taking this thread as a microcosm, then there apparently is no need to "frighten" the viewers to secure the desired response. Of the 8 people with replies in this thread, two have responded they will be buying a policy, one has looked up pricing (which is halfway there). One has already bought, so we'll exclude him.
The sample size is admittedly small, but two, possibly three, out of 7 is a wonderful conversion rate for an advertisement.
I'll leave my credentials at the door, but I would posit that there is no need to "scare" people. It's enough to heighten their sensitivity to effect the desired behavior.
Additionally, given that this material is directed at the geek set (who tend to be more fanboys than not), then positioning the N7 as the "winner" would more likely secure a favorable reception than if the N7 had come out the "loser." Per selective input, we tend to filter out material we disagree with. HEY, WE KNOW ANDROID AND NEXUS 7 RULE, RIGHT? AND HERE'S YET MORE PROOF. Indeed, some had mentioned of bias in assessing N7's damage.
Yes, the above are suppositions. But they're supported with evidence and reasoning, rather than hot air.
>Why did they tell people to go and buy a cover instead of buying their insurance?
Because that would make it obvious that it's an advertisement. Adverts are most effective when you don't think of them as adverts. Per above, you don't need to hit people on the head with a hammer. A nudge usually works better.
>If the "true" purpose of the video is to sell more insurance (only they know for sure) then they most certainly did the right thing by making the iPad look more fragile.
Actually, no. The target audience for this advert is mainly N7 owners. It's a common tendency for people to check for reviews and comparisons of their new purchases AFTER they buy, to look for affirmation of their choice.
Another tendency is that people are most receptive to buying a policy immediately before or after their main purchase, ie N7 owners at this point. If you've already had your tablet for a while, then you are less likely to buy a policy.
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I'll leave my credentials at the door, but I would posit that there is no need to "scare" people. It's enough to heighten their sensitivity to effect the desired behavior.
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You have credentials? You mean you work in insurance?
It certainly makes sense to capitalise on the popularity of geek-toy-destruction videos and provide something amusing that will get your name in front of people. But it seems an extremely arcane piece of reverse-psychology to purposely rig the results to show tablets surviving all sorts of damage unscathed and claim that will make people want to buy insurance. Why bother buying protection from water damage when you can drop a Nexus 7 in the bath and it'll still work fine? (Er, I really hope no-one actually believes that's OK.)
While I'd agree that people who've just bought a shiny new toy are far more likely to approve of a video that shows said toy beating the competition, wouldn't it make sense to show it suffering some damage? 'Yeah, the Nexus 7 is far tougher than the crappy old iPad, but hey, it can still get a bit dinged up. Don't you want the peace-of-mind that comes with an insurance policy?' Instead, we see people complaining that they're actually trying to hide some minor damage on the Nexus.
I think you're massively over-thinking this. All they wanted to do was make a video people would be interested in watching, so they went outside and filmed themselves dropping a couple of tablets. And that's all there is to it. The iPad's highly-rigid design means it doesn't suffer the issues with screen-lift or creaking that some people are reporting, and the lack of a trim-strip gives it a slightly cleaner line, but it also means it's more vulnerable to impacts - not really surprising.
>But it seems an extremely arcane piece of reverse-psychology to purposely rig the results to show tablets surviving all sorts of damage unscathed and claim that will make people want to buy insurance.
You must have seen a different video than I did.
>All they wanted to do was make a video people would be interested in watching, so they went outside and filmed themselves dropping a couple of tablets. And that's all there is to it.
Why yes of course that's all it is. I'm sure they're just a bunch of fun-loving guys.
>iPad's highly-rigid design means it doesn't suffer the issues with screen-lift or creaking that some people are reporting,
Novel interpretation. Here's a more mundane one: iPad has better build quality.
Just my reaction and my perceived negatives of the QuickWindow Case.
It might help someone who is considering buying it in the future.
But let me repeat that these are MY experience, MY problems, yours might differ
Also excuse my english, am trying my best to explain with the little knowledge of it as I have.
Intro, as I see still some questions and reviews, threads popping out for the quick window case let me summarize the negatives.
(I do have the original LG case for 30 euro, but I do believe most of this will go for a cheap case as well)
For the TL;DR ppls out there. Just scroll down there is a quick list..
Wrong hold.
It ads incredible bulk, might not look like it, but since the phone is thin,
when you get it out of the case after a month of use you will notice the huge difference right away.
The phone does feel amazing outside the case.
When you wanna play you need to put the cover to the back, and its really strange if you play games,
or even watch videos, there is a bit of force that is trying to pull the cover back,
small but you can still feel it, and as well, on your hand you will feel that there is something not smooth.
You can't actually put it properly in most of the car holders... I own an universal one.
You have to push it to the back and few times it just flipped out of the holder etc. Taking it out it will wear out faster.
The window in my case was the reason why I actually thrown the phone on the ground few times.
Finger stuck into the whole and I actually threw it few times down. (
Thank God I had the case that it was a bit protected from the impact.... see the irony in that? )
Maintenance and looks
The open space gets more dirty, more oily, more dusty then any other place on the screen, for apparent reasons.
Every time I open the cover, I spend some time cleaning it...
If you use like me a screen protector (later I will explain why this is actually needed!)
it changed even the color slightly of the always exposed part, I would have not noticed this,
but the cut out part made the protector to be more yellow, maybe due to more exposure to sunlight.
It doesn't age the same way, even though this might be the protectors fault and glass protectors out there won't probably get yellowish.
The case, being used already for 3 months now, shows wearing of the materials, the joints and the soft tissue parts are starting to clutter.
The metal rim or plastic, destroyer of the Gorilla Glass... I do not know who's "smart" Idea was this,
but if I was the one buying the case, having the actual receipt I would try to make LG give me a new phone or money
as this protection cover actually scratched the phone... I suspect something got stuck between the rim and the screen,
maybe sand, and actually scratched the screen. Who adds something so hard on a soft cover....
This was the reason for the screen protector btw....
Software and applications.
3 basic applications
Clock, always changes when I put it in my pocket, I do not like to switch always to the one I can best read
I do not appreciate the randomness
Weather stopped updating, or updates randomly, I have it frozen as I did not like the wakelocks
and the bad accuracy of it, compared to custom apps I use
Music player as I again use something custom, Google Play music its no use for me and was frozen
Are there any custom applications anyway?
The window is too small for my huge fingers in most cases and I have problems operating it.
The controls are too near the rim, should be located more to the accessible middle of the cover.
Means I not able to refresh the weather, use the music controls and when in hurry taking a call is a drag
Have to open the cover to re-check if the person just stopped talking or the call ended.
Or problems just to end the call...
No energy saved whatsoever by the use, the screen is no Amoled.
So no matter what you see through the window, it's all lights up.
All of these problems makes the LG original case just very expensive accessory with no real benefits.
The custom cases only no real benefits.
Here the promised quick list
too bulky, phone amazing without, games and car holders a no go
[*]already showing sings of wear after 3 months
[*]window gets more dirty, oily
[*]the metallic or plastic rim, can be trace back as a reason for scratches
[*]no energy saved
[*]no time saver either ....
[*]good applications not present
[*]control of the phone more complicated due to bad ergonomic of apps
[*]limited protection
What is your addition to my Negative Experience? I will edit my review when I remember other nice things about the cover...
Also I stopped using it and now testing this http://goo.gl/SFK6Nl
PS:Sorry if similar thread exists.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2622144
Maybe this can help... It offer a simple notification, but can be improved if you have time.
I'll agree with most of this. I wish there was another official LG case.
I don't see it as too bulky - it's pretty thin in my hands. More so than the Ballistic Aspira, the Otterbox cases, the Trident cases, or the Spigen Slim Armor. The MAIN issue I find with it is, beyond needing to fold the flap back to hold the phone comfortably, is that it covers the proximity sensor. This means it kills the Answer Me functionality, or any functions using the proximity sensor while the case is closed. Aka: a lot of the touted features.
I just wish the Quick Window Apps were more useful. The three that exist... aren't.
I agree. The worst part about the case was that the one time I did accidentally drop my phone it bounced right out of the case and on its face... Basically makes the case not useful as a case for me
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Samsung performed many drops, both manual and machine-assisted, showing in its video that the handset’s display will not crack when dropped from various heights on tough surfaces and that the phone will continue to work. However, in some of those tests it’s clearly visible that the plastic rear case may come off.
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Samsung performed many drops, both manual and machine-assisted, showing in its video that the handset’s display will not crack when dropped from various heights on tough surfaces and that the phone will continue to work. However, in some of those tests it’s clearly visible that the plastic rear case may come off.
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Every phone I have had with a replaceable battery has rear plates that pop off if dropped. In the old days it was every drop, now its only occasionally. This is not a surprise. In fact it is necessary. the back falls off because the unit is flexing, and the popping of back cover is actually releasing some of the stress. In at least a minor way, your device receives less damage this way.
As for the bending in the pocket... all larger phones will have some flex in them. The video I saw of the iphone and the note 4 bending shows that under extreme stress the phone will bend. The amount of force to make it bend is in the neighborhood of 150+ lbs of force.... however, remember that this is concentrated force, so if you weigh more than 150 pounds it doesn't mean that you will bend your phone. Unless your pocket is made out of some materiel that will press against your device with the concentrated force of 2 fingers pushing up, while the rest of the fingers are pushing down... The iPhone 6 was less durable, but to be fair it still took about 70 lbs of force to bend it.
The biggest difference is that the iPhone nearly creased at the volume buttons. It was bent, and bent bad, and it would be difficult, if not impossible to bend it back. The Note 4 was a gentle curve, and it was able to be counter bent back to being flat.
The truly funny part of all of this is that all of Apples "benefits and features" are slowly becoming its flaws. For example the all metal body is why it bends so bad and so easily... and the screen size that was perfect is now too small and they had to make them bigger to compete. (just wait until they start to brag about the plastic construction in the iPhone 7 (or iPhone 6p)
I have been saying the same thing about the iPhone. Someday the smaller and lighter will give way to some sort of weakness. Knowing them they might use a magnesium frame like Samsung and HTC use, but then they will act like it's something revolutionary that they came up with.
I have read many mixed reviews of this glass screen protector here, on other forums, and on Amazon.
Amazon's the best, IMO, because you're reading product reviews from real everyday normal folks from all different walks, so the compilation of reviews includes the whole range of skill level.
Inarguably, the Whitestone Dome Glass protector is probably THE MOST difficult to install, save the fact that the kit includes an allignment jig that helps installation inmeasurably. I recently did this (this evening) and can't imagine attempting this without such a jig, though I understand similar UV activated glue is available to use with separately sold glass protectors.
So I'll start with some background info to set the scene for accuracy...
I'm a landscaper by day, but a jeweler part time. That means I chunk heavy crap around all day long like a farmer, but on the weekends I show off my dexterity like a watchmaker.
That's important, because this installation requires steady, confident hands, much forethought, patience, and it ain't cheap!
Sooooo...
Let me say that I was really nervous. I already accepted the idea that I might have to decide whether to purchase another one or go a different route and just choke on losing 45 dollars.
I watched 8 YouTube videos on installation, including one completely failed installation, and a demonstration on the removal of one.
The package arrived today but was outside the house in the cold. Of course I wanted to pop it on immediately, but figured that it should warm up to temperature first.
During that time I prepped my table. I used a marble to see if it was level. During preparation, i also prepared myself for the possibility of failure. LOL!
I layed out all of the items like I was about to perform surgery.
CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN!
Use those dust removal stickers! Even after you let the glue fall and remove the "bridge", check again for dust.
Don't flail about to much. That simply stirs up dust.
"Relax", is the best advice I can give. Peeling the backing off the glass from underneath it so dust that's in the air doesn't land on the inside surface sounds like a logical idea, and you should, but static from peeling it can become a pain.
If you're calm enough, you can do this just like the videos.
I wiped the edges after the first and second curing with the UV light. I did end up with excess flow out one side, and on the other side during the second wipe down, I had an ever so tiny bubble (if you'd even call it that) on the edge. The bubble was from wiping away the partially curred glue, which pulled a tiny, TINY bit out. (Literally one third the size of the exposed part of the SPen tip.)
I remedied this OCD-killer by using a toothpick dabbed in what remained at the top of the glue tube and simply touched it to the edge, which sucked it right in to fill the tiny void.
I used the UV light several times with the idea that it simply couldn't hurt to do it as often as I could.
My screen literally looks like a perfect install. Absolutely fantastic, as Sakitech would say!
I would say the skill level required for this is about average, but you really have only one chance to get it right, and there are a few steps that need to be followed perfectly or else they can trip you up.
Watch those videos. Many show people doing an imperfect installation with decent or good results, but after watching several you'll see just how to avoid mishaps.
On a different note, I did notice something very strange while utilizing the UV light; there is a weird shape in the center of the screen that shows up under the light. I have no idea what it is, but it shows as a slightly different color in the center third of the screen, nearly full length with rounded corners and perfectly symmetrical. I'm assuming it's an adhesive beneath the screen for the interactive SPen screen? I dunno. Kinda neat.
Anyway, after reading reviews stating problems with lifting of the edges of the Whitestone Dome, I figured I would contribute here by checking in and giving updates as to the longevity of this very beautiful, but slightly expensive and fiddly (to say the least) installing screen protector.
Feel free to ask any questions.
O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
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O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
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Same here with mine. Very satisfied. Nearly 3 months now and it's been rock solid for me.
Same here, great bit of kit.
Agreed - I love my Whitestone. It picked up a scratch, and I used the new warranty facility to replace it. It's not exactly cheap (around £20) to get the replacement, but it's better than having to buy one at full price.
This one ended up being a little more fiddly to install, but that was my fault - I allowed the LOCA to flow too far towards the bottom of the device before dropping the glass. I had tiny cluster of bubbles near the power switch which I worked out with some patience, and I also ended up sticking the jig together because I cured it for too long before removing the phone. However, the overall result is better than my original install, and I haven't had the touch up the edges of this one at all.
As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
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As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Maybe I've just been getting bad batches? idk.
I've had no problems with mine. Looks and works great! My wife's has started to come up on a corner. It's because she was mishandling it and not realizing what she was doing. All the warnings that we are aware of she is basically unaware of because... I don't know. It's still working for her and doesn't bother her. I don't plan on using another brand when I have to replace hers.
After 3 months the glue went bad on mine and started peeling on a top corner, then it went down both sides over night. Frankly at £40, it needs to last a lot longer for that money.
So;
It's mid August, 6½ months after the installation and it still looks great.
To be fair I have to mention that I do have two phones I use on a daily basis, but the Note is used for many more hours a week as a tablet as compared to my naked S8+, which I really only use to make and take calls.
In other words, the Note sees a lot of touch screen activity.
The Whitestone is holding up much better than I expected, given all the problems I've read about it. I do have a very subtle problem spot on the right side edge right in the middle where it has started to bubble. Though it's really only visible at certain angles, and quite small, my OCD magnifies this visual defect a great deal for me! When I hand over my phone to someone (always reluctantly...LOL) to view a picture or an app, I still get compliments on the screen protector, and no one has ever pointed it out to me. (It is very small.)
IT HAS DONE IT'S JOB...
-At least once, because there's a small scratch in the surface of the glass. Again, another thing hardly noticable, but if it were in the screen itself of my Note, I would be very upset. (Give me 6 more months to get to the point where it's perfectly acceptable for this handheld device to show signs of use.)
A CORNER DID START TO LIFT...
Last month, the upper right hand corner developed a very small bubble. I knew right away from what I've read that this might be the start of the end of this screen's life. But I continually massaged the screen down many times, and it actually worked and resealed.
My take on this is that firstly, it's been ridiculously hot in my region. That might've helped with resealing. But secondly and most importantly, I never allow dust to get near my phone.
Dust is the enemy. A single microfiber particle between the screen and glass cover might've made resealing impossible. People pop their phones in their pocket all the time, and because the phones are dust proof now, it's even easier to take for granted what they are exposed to. As soft and protective as pockets are, they expose phones to a lot of dust. (Look at the lint trap in a clothes dryer!)
IN CONCLUSION...
I'll keep monitoring this thread to answer any questions, but I'll probably only post an update of when the Whitestone finally needs to be replaced. At that point I'll probably throw some photos up before I remove the old one.
As far as I'm concerned it has already exceeded my expectations of longevity, and I'll gladly be getting a replacement when the time comes. But I will continue to try to get the most life out of this one despite the small lift on the edge.
BTW...
The "problem" side of my screen is where it had less of the LOCA bleeding out of the edge during installation. Even though the puddle of adhesive was dead center when I dropped the glass on, when I wiped the excess from the edges, the right side had less run-off. Right now I'm wondering if I wiped the excess off of the edges too soon. During the next installation, I'll be sure to give more time for the glue to stay where it needs to.
COMPARED TO NO SCREEN PROTECTOR...
Well, I never, ever, ever have used any of my smart phones without a screen protector. But I finally grew weary of the cheap crappy edge-adhesive glass protector I had on my S8+, and threw it out! The screen would often not register touches, etc, and was an under-screen dust catcher. I havn't bought a Whitestone for it yet because I spend so little time using it that I keep forgetting. So for about 4 months, I've been using my S8+ with no protection save a case that does have a screen flap (like a wallet).
I have a small rub mark on the screen, hardly noticable, but it's there.
If and when I purchase a Whitestone for that phone, I'll post here as to whether or not the LOCA actually hides that mark, as I've read in other threads that it can hide existing scratches presumably because it fills them in (makes sense).
A FINAL PLUG FOR THE NOTE 8...
I doubt the NOTE 10/X will wow me enough to drop my 8 like a wet sock and bolt to the store. I do figure that it'll be feature-packed since the advances of the 9 weren't anything crazy special. But I'm far from tired of this phone and given what I paid for it, I expect I'll have it long enough to have to perform the inevitable battery replacement surgery before I finally upgrade.
I believe the Whitestone protection will help me stay that course. :good:
Lovely! This is my second device, the first had a clicky feel on the bottom of the screen where is slides into the chin. That didnt really bother me, but it would also drain battery overnight when not used (from 100 to 78) the next morning. Returned it to bestbuy (got charged $45) and repurchased (yes i am not a hater, i like the phone) but this one creaks loudly from the screen (not hinge). Anyone having similar issues?
oh great.... I am getting mine tomorrow. I purchased from B&H and I got an extended warranty warranty for 2 more years through SquareTrade at time of purchase. The product is shipping from the US to me (in Canada), and the last thing I want to put up with is "this" kind of "issues". Oh jesus, let's hope and pray FedEx delivers a creak free unit.
As for battery issues, you might want to check out what is draining and using up your battery. You can also get some None_root apps to help "Sleep" apps that are sucking power while in standby mode.
Cheers,
Crossing fingers for you. My second came from B&H. Will be giving them a call tomorrow for options, most likely will end up keeping it like this and hope for a year of trouble free foldings The one that drained battery, it was also right off the box, i do not install any app until i make sure battery issues arent app related. And i also disabled 5g which made the phone heat up quiet a lot
QC seems to leave a lot to be desired, they put a plastic on the external sceeen that came poorly applied in both lol Got to love the razr, i am all about design, so i can gladly put up with some OCD inducing issues, but not pleased with the overall experience, not at $1200 (although high end phones are getting progressively more expensive, look what apple is doing, less for more, a 64GB iphone 12 is $830 plus the charger, it ends up close to $900, i hope ppl realize demand more for their $. Im definitely NOT getting and iphone again)
The first unit I got had a consistently loud creaky hinge too and there was some friction while opening so I got a replacement and to my surprise it's absolutely quiet and smooth!! So now I consider it not normal for a hinge that makes any noise.
Got my phone today
Well, it finally arrived after FedEx messed up the delivery date that was scheduled for last Friday.
I got distracted by the fact that my phone shipped without a screen protector or "Motorola Black" screen shield. The phone shipped folded, and the box looked unopened (the security decals looked super clean unaltered) and there was zero finger prints on the phone nor the display (it's a real finger print magnet like all my other phones lol).
Thankfully, the phone opens and closes like a well oiled hydraulic mechanism that was built by NASA with 0.01% tolerance.
Great! Yeah the ones with an internal screen film and unfolded were review units. Others come with a poorly applied plastic on the external screen, and come folded. My creaky razr also offers some resistance as mentioned above, the hinge would not creak, but rather the screen when being folded, i can feel it by touching the outter screen and back. It had to do with the folding trays rather than the hinge itself. Going back for a replacement.
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Great! Yeah the ones with an internal screen film and unfolded were review units. Others come with a poorly applied plastic on the external screen, and come folded. My creaky razr also offers some resistance as mentioned above, the hinge would not creak, but rather the screen when being folded, i can feel it by touching the outter screen and back. It had to do with the folding trays rather than the hinge itself. Going back for a replacement.
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Damn, I feel for you bro... are you in New York, or are you shipping it back and forth. Does B&H cover the shipping fees?
I had the 2019/early 2020 version of this phone, it creaked. The 5G version I have now creaks too. Both from day 1. Moto says it's "normal."
Well, I can report that mine is like I mentioned above, it folds and opens like a well oiled mechanism. I have had it since Monday of this week. I'm hoping that I am the norm and not the exception.
But I'm getting the feeling that this phone will be pretty scarce as far as distribution and total sales.
I've had mine for 4 days now, it emits a single squeak when closing if I use the inner screen for a bit, and makes a click when opening but no creaks that I've noticed.
I think if you leave the phone opened for a long time, the creak will disappear. Mine 1st gen razr is like that
I've had mine since release day. No squeaks or creaks. Just a smooth sound whenever I flip my wrist to open. But even slower opens don't have any noises. And I've been to the beach a few times where I've had sand get in the hinges... Little bit of blowing on the hinge and what little bit of grit is left doesn't seem to be a match for the steel gears after a couple days. Back to being like new.
Sucks you got a squeaker but I would be willing to bet it is in the minority.
No such issues with my Razr, smooth and quiet, although I find the grip to be a bit tricky with one hand, I wish they would had added two tiny grip points on the top sides, to be able to use the weight of the lower half to extend the screen without the risk of dropping the phone.
No such issues with mine, either. Was gifted this phone on my B'day, and I really wasn't planning on buying one, but I intend to keep it for a bit. It's been a decent experience overall.