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I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
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They're Google editions not nexus and they're what people have been requesting for years.
Just sick that Samsung leak 4.3 before we have it, that stinks
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How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879
CalamitySir said:
I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
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Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879
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OMG! I am so sorry I didn't see your thread and I opened a new one. But we have the same idea/thinking. And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year. And this device is going to be so called "expired" by next year April.
Is Nexus 4 going to only have 4.3(upcoming) as its latest version looking at how it is only a minor upgrade compared to the previous nexus devices.
What I really hope is that Google can launch 5.0(maybe) before Nexus 4 go into retirement although I know that we still have this community to count on for future Android upgrades. If they don't release it by then, I am really going to be having doubts about their treatment to us Nexus fans.
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Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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OK I didn't read up on that part. Let's just hope those OEM continue to support their own skinned Android while leaving these behind.
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CalamitySir said:
And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year.
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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.
My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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The devices will be buildable in aosp for a good while, so don't be worried. A quad core phone with 2gb ram isn't losing support any time soon. Especially a nexus. My crespo has 4.2, and it shipped with GB..... Think of it like that.
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rubiconjp said:
My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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From a technical point of view it will get 4.3 and KLP, the hardware is powerful enough if it can handle 4.2.2.
On the other side there is of course the $$$ for support of such old devices...
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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.
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I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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No offense mate, but this is just a pile of bullsh*t.
Literally nothing of the above makes any sense.
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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Ya I'm not quite sure where the OP is getting his/ her info from either..
Google will continue to support the Nexus line so long as the hardware is compatible with the software..
Google did I/0 right this year as its a developer conference and shouldn't be used for new products IMHO..
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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This. The op is confused.
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CalamitySir said:
I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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and you ideas are based on your imagination/creativity?
i/o is not when they release new nexus phones, nor is it a set date for android releases.
Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
mntbighker said:
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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:facepalm: :banghead:
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.
Will Google ends support for 2 year old nexus 7..??
Can we see next major android version (4.5/5.0) for our grouper..??
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Official will probably stop when the last revision of KitKat is released. However no one really knows but Google. Worst case in a week after 4.5 or 5.0 is released (if those are to be believed) source will be pushed to AOSP and everyone here will be building ROMs.
I mean even my old Kindle Fire (otter) runs Pac-Man 4.4.2...
While my Nexus 5 and 7 (2012 grouper) are both running 4.4.3
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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I hear you there
But I have hope
Our Nexus 7 will prevail through it all!
Maybe then we will have some brave soul working on Nvidia 3.4.35 kernel for tegra3
This can be a good starting point
this is the last update.....
Very likely the last update, though people don't have the same upgrade path for tablets that they do for phones, you won't necessarily change it as regularly.
It's not like your contract is up after 2 years and you get another one.
I'm not planning on getting another tablet any time soon, so longer support would be great, though I doubt it'll happen.
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Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
calyxim said:
Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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:highfive: 4.3 was a very solid version. When I put my Nexus 4 back in daily driver service for a short while, 4.4 had been out for some time, but I went to 4.3 due to the reliability and smooth feel...
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
lotherius said:
nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
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correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
USBhost said:
correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
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You're wrong.
You can still find Nexus 7 2012 for sale... not at Google Play, however.
IMHO - the last KitKat update will be the end of service life for Nexus 7 2012. N7 2013 will get through the L named release.
Looking very much like 4.4.3 will be the last 'official' update, based on the below news...
4.4.3 is running well on my N7, so can't complain too much, plus there are plenty of custom ROMs and mods to play with. Just wonder how this will affect future custom ROMs/ports as they will be created to run with ART and so possibly a no-go... :crying:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-next-major-version-of-android-to-finally-remove-dalvik-and-set-art-as-default/
I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We only had the 4.4.3 only for a few weeks
Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
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Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
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The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
I.m lookimg forward for M. BUT I love my N4 with lollipop so it wont be end of days for me if we dont get M N4 with L is all that i wanted from a phone.
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The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
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You're right, it was about the dev previews. I hope we will know more by the end of the I/O. Would be a shame if they aren't gonna update the Nexus 4 as the hardware seems completely capable of handling Android M (i don't really notice a lot of a difference in performance even comparing my 2.5 year old encrypted N4 to a brand new Galaxy S6).
You probably can't really compare a Nexus device with an Apple device though, Apple generally seems a lot more consumer-friendly in that regard (also in terms of repairs and so on). The rumors for Google were, that Android devices will get the newest Android updates for 2 years, and security updates for another year after that. Let's see if this turns out to be true or not..
Nexus support periods are going very rigid.. N4 most likely won't get M. Time to buy a new phone I guess.
We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
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We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
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This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
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This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
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Yep, only Nexus 5 and 7 2013 got the L preview, but N7 2012 and N4 ended up getting the Lollipop update in the end.
Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
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Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61029121&postcount=39169
If not a port of a factory image, the Nexus 4 will still get custom ROM support with M. If Devs can build CM12.1 on devices that never got past Jellybean, getting M on the Nexus 4 should be a cinch in comparison.
I'd be surprised if the N4 got official M from Google. The word is that from now on Nexuses will get 2 years of updates. Us N4 owners are just lucky that we were given a device so awesome it's still capable and relevant 2.5 (and counting) years later.
It would be awesome if we get it....there no question of the hardware being capable as there are no major changes, i guess.
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I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
Nexus 4 officially will NOT get M
https://plus.google.com/+AndreasProschofsky/posts/eH5z8VzqKfB
It's time to say bye for Nexus 4
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@sykopompos
I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
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From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
Come on Señor
Relax, gonna be just fine, n4 and n7 2013 use nearly same proprietary blobs (not just gpu, but gps and NFC), so porting that to n4 will be piece of cake.
From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
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I doubt it'll even be 10%. M is nothing half as major as L.
It is almost certain that we won't get official M. We n4 users were lucky to get 5.1, not just ending at 5.0.
However, high quality ports from N7 or N5 will be available(imo). We won't have any trouble with custom rom support.
I am sure an awesome dev with help us out. Heck, my screen on my Galaxy S 4G (yes, prior to the S2) cracked last fall, I was running 4.4.4 ports on hardware with the terrible stats of the SGS4G thanks to the dev Ninjas at XDA.
I have no worries that while we might not get factory, we will get an as good, if not better port.
So, it's quite possible that our much beloved Nexus 5 doesn't receive final Android N, afterall.
In that case, I was wondering it anyone would be interested in providing a custom N build, with no changes, compared to Google's own build.
I mean, ODEX, non-zipaligned, no root, nothing. Just stock like stock Google software.
I'd pay for this.
Is it possible for someone to create a ZIP that can be sideloaded in the default recovery?
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I'd pay for this.
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Me either. Still can't believe Google is not showing any love to Nexus 5 anymore.
kicksilver said:
So, it's quite possible that our much beloved Nexus 5 doesn't receive final Android N, afterall.
In that case, I was wondering it anyone would be interested in providing a custom N build, with no changes, compared to Google's own build.
I mean, ODEX, non-zipaligned, no root, nothing. Just stock like stock Google software.
I'd pay for this.
Is it possible for someone to create a ZIP that can be sideloaded in the default recovery?
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When the final release is out, it's pretty safe to say that someone will make a build for the Nexus 5. Until then, there is nothing devs can do right now. Google currently doesn't have everything available to do so.
Yes, I know.
I'm talking about the future, after N is uploaded to AOSP.
I know there will be lots of ROMs, but I just wanted stock Google software, no root, theme, anything.
Basically, an unofficial Google OTA.
I'm willing to pay for this, and I can gather many people to join this cause.
probably Google will release android N to Nexus 5, but its the last official release to it. Just like Nexus 4 on Lollipop era, was pretty the same thing.
How is that surprising they want you to buy the next device so if they drop support look at it this way you can always install a ROM and I'm confident you will see something up fast
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Salo-S said:
probably Google will release android N to Nexus 5, but its the last official release to it. Just like Nexus 4 on Lollipop era, was pretty the same thing.
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Nop, Google won't release the Android N for Nexus 5, as they dropped the support for newer releases in October 2015. But of course that as soon as the source code is out we'll get the update because the devs will take care of that
marcomarinho said:
Nop, Google won't release the Android N for Nexus 5, as they dropped the support for newer releases in October 2015. But of course that as soon as the source code is out we'll get the update because the devs will take care of that
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Since you aren't clairvoyant I'll wait to see. The N7 2013 got MM but if you go by the date listed on googles site they stoped officially supporting it in July of 2015. And if not, eh.. There will be tons of N roms once its released. Most likely day one.
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Since you aren't clairvoyant I'll wait to see. The N7 2013 got MM but if you go by the date listed on googles site they stoped officially supporting it in July of 2015. And if not, eh.. There will be tons of N roms once its released. Most likely day one.
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True though xD
Looks like afterwards I have reason
We all know there will be lots of ROMs.
But the purpose of this thread, is to get to know if any developer would like to provide a stock "Google" equivalent, for those that want their N5 to feel like it's been updated by Google itself.
I'll sure try, especially if there is money on the line lol
I won't make any promises, but I'll gladly take a look when the source gets out if I still have the device.
I've been reading stuff on Reddit, and many people would appreciate this "Google experience" ROM.
http://www.xda-developers.com/google-publishes-end-of-life-for-nexus-devices/
It's officially over for us. It's up to the devs now.
ast00 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/google-publishes-end-of-life-for-nexus-devices/
It's officially over for us. It's up to the devs now.
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No it is not officially over, nothing on that page confirms it is officially over. Only the ''Guaranteed" support is over for the Nexus 5.
That doesn't mean it won't get Android N, I think the chance for a official release of Android N for the N5 is really small but there's still a chance it will get it.
Till the final release of Android N is out no one knows anything for sure if it comes to the future of the N5.
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We all know there will be lots of ROMs.
But the purpose of this thread, is to get to know if any developer would like to provide a stock "Google" equivalent, for those that want their N5 to feel like it's been updated by Google itself.
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Isn't this Vomer's thing? He still around on the N5?
RoyJ said:
Isn't this Vomer's thing? He still around on the N5?
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Don't know this guy.
But whoever is willing to do this, I could gather some people to pay for it.
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Don't know this guy.
But whoever is willing to do this, I could gather some people to pay for it.
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I know he used to do it for the N5, pretty sure I've seen his builds for a few other phones as well. That was his thing. When a new Android OS comes out he usually releases a stock / AOSP build. Non rooted, no mods, etc. I'm not sure if he's still around though, but it can't hurt to ask.
@vomer
kicksilver said:
We all know there will be lots of ROMs.
But the purpose of this thread, is to get to know if any developer would like to provide a stock "Google" equivalent, for those that want their N5 to feel like it's been updated by Google itself.
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Looking at the history of ROMs in the past here on XDA, there is usually always someone who ports a pure AOSP build with no mods. I wouldn't worry about it much. Especially this early.
I hope so.
Not really into modding/rooting/whatnot.
A stock Google-ish ROM for me, and I'll be happy.
Dont worry man.. Nexus 5 is still pretty popular phone and dev friendly so IMHO you shouldn't be worried at all.. There is i believe 99% chance u will have Android n, just be patient for a couple of months when the Android n will be officially released
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