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Real Racing 3

Hi guys
Did you tried Real racing 3?
the game obviously lags on the 4x . unfortunetly, no developer cares about the 4X, and i think we are gonna have big trouble with future games too. Its the same with the other games; only one core always active, from 700 (??) to 1500Mhz... a shame. One X does lag like the 4X as i've seen at youtube

AW: Real Racing 3
Yes I tried it and - wow, lags like hell!
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...

BlackDuty said:
Yes I tried it and - wow, lags like hell!
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
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Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck

s3 also lag
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Laggy for me too..but its still playable. I really like the game. Hope they optimize it for tegra soon
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theres a solution. It works perfectly fine for me now. If you have a rooted phone, tweak with the cpu speed and governors. The game works perfectly fine after that. However, the phone heats up and battery drains quickly.

Mahalsk said:
Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck
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Doing this and changing the governor to performance makes the game much smoother.

Try LG Gearbox. Set "Active Cores" to 1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854008
It will run without any lags but with low graphic details (which can not be noticed really)
Be aware that, setting active cores other than 4 with LG Gearbox, sometimes makes your phone freeze or restart.

Mahalsk said:
Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck
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this method worked fine for me. Originaly, the game setups our device on high or mid. I changed to low and now its not lagging and the graphics are still cool.

I didn't change any detail settings.I used No frill cpu to set the cpu to performance and the game runs fine.

I also tried "No frills cpu" with the "performance" option and saw that the game can be played without any problems.
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After exiting the game i set the governor to conservative.I launched the game without changing it at all , In some scenes some lag is noticable but not in game.Playing is also fine.

To be honest, I'm sick of this crap. Most Wanted lags, games designed for Tegra 3 lags (Oh yeah, I have Tegra 3 inside, as you might know), Vice City is not even accessible for normal users of 4X HD and now Real Racing 3 lags also. I will throw this piece of crap away and will buy next Samsung or Google flagship this year. I'm also upset with nVidia. I'm happy my laptop is running by AMD stuff. How you can work with bunch of noobs (question for nVidia) in mobile devices area?
And, of course, brilliant 2012 summer flagship without Jelly Bean. Why HTC One X have this? Same ****ing summer flagship. Jesus Christ.

Great...Now that your are offtopic ,go get your self a samsumg , where lag is a part of their whole UI...

Winudert said:
To be honest, I'm sick of this crap. Most Wanted lags, games designed for Tegra 3 lags (Oh yeah, I have Tegra 3 inside, as you might know), Vice City is not even accessible for normal users of 4X HD and now Real Racing 3 lags also. I will throw this piece of crap away and will buy next Samsung or Google flagship this year. I'm also upset with nVidia. I'm happy my laptop is running by AMD stuff. How you can work with bunch of noobs (question for nVidia) in mobile devices area?
And, of course, brilliant 2012 summer flagship without Jelly Bean. Why HTC One X have this? Same ****ing summer flagship. Jesus Christ.
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I can understand your disapointment, since this is a high end device.
But lets hope JB improves somethng, and remember that HOX and Nexus 7 also have issues with game performance.

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Nexus and HOX are running jb so you thinking it can change something in our phone?

xtynekk said:
Nexus and HOX are running jb so you thinking it can change something in our phone?
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yes but i doesnt mean games will be better on JB. the new kernel might improve performance, bujt far away from making it a super phone.

AW: Real Racing 3
Changed Graphic Settings and it's really good! No more lags!

The game just isn't fully optimized for tegra3.
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1x1.5GHz or 4x1.4GHz
you have to be aware that the tegra 3 will give the 1.5GHz only for 1 core, the max CPU speed for 4 cores is 1.4GHz.
so if a game is optimized for 4 cores, it will run much faster on 1.4GHz.
you should keep that in mind when you lock the CPU speed at 1,5GHz

lg have always this problem great hardware fail performance

Finally got the N5 to lag

As the title says....I wasn't trying to overload the phone, but while playing TD5 I actually got it to lag. Normally, the game doesn't use much battery, but anyone familiar with the game after level 80 or so it gets pretty intense. I put the game on fast forward mode too and it got pretty laggy. Would be pretty interesting to use this game as a benchmark. Here's a screenshot: http://imgur.com/b2qrQpn
It might be hard to tell, but there was A LOT of frame droppings. Which doesn't really surprise me. Anyway, just thought I would share.

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As the title says....I wasn't trying to overload the phone, but while playing TD5 I actually got it to lag. Normally, the game doesn't use much battery, but anyone familiar with the game after level 80 or so it gets pretty intense. I put the game on fast forward mode too and it got pretty laggy. Would be pretty interesting to use this game as a benchmark. Here's a screenshot: http://imgur.com/b2qrQpn
It might be hard to tell, but there was A LOT of frame droppings. Which doesn't really surprise me. Anyway, just thought I would share.
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interesting. have you used other devices with this game? how does it compare? you'd think that the nexus 5 with it's cpu/gpu being pretty top of the line would not have problems with anything. but that is a lot going on at once.

efan3719 said:
interesting. have you used other devices with this game? how does it compare? you'd think that the nexus 5 with it's cpu/gpu being pretty top of the line would not have problems with anything. but that is a lot going on at once.
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Asphalt 8 lags no problem.. Though it could be the engine. While the game looks pretty I get the feeling the game's engine isn't properly optimized.

mbazdell said:
Asphalt 8 lags no problem.. Though it could be the engine. While the game looks pretty I get the feeling the game's engine isn't properly optimized.
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i've yet to try any graphic intense games on my Nexus 5. i would hope that any serious lag would come down to the app coding and not the device.

I'm pretty sure all this lag is due to the aggressive thermal throttling from lg.
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ethantarheels123 said:
I'm pretty sure all this lag is due to the aggressive thermal throttling from lg.
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but i thought the throttling was way less than what was found on the Nexus 4. i guess we can use an app to see what happens during the lag.
found an article about throttling on the Nexus 5 in case anyone was interested. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/when-benchmarks-arent-enough-cpu-performance-in-the-nexus-5/

efan3719 said:
interesting. have you used other devices with this game? how does it compare? you'd think that the nexus 5 with it's cpu/gpu being pretty top of the line would not have problems with anything. but that is a lot going on at once.
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The only other device that I have tried this with is the 2013 Nexus 7. I don't think I've gotten to this part but whenever I do I will let you know. I can't recall if it lagged before.

mbazdell said:
Asphalt 8 lags no problem.. Though it could be the engine. While the game looks pretty I get the feeling the game's engine isn't properly optimized.
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Yeah, Asphalt 8 runs for me with no problem either. I agree with the optimization. I'm going to try to get to this point on my Nexus 7 2013. Although the specs on that are lower.

Ive gotten the nexus 5 to lag substantially while playing FIFA 14, both on Stock and with a Custom ROM and trinity kernel.
The lag was less on the custom ROM and trinity kernel then it was on stock...
why do u guys think there is a lag on the nexus 5, ive played fifa so many times on the iphone 5 and never had a single stutter from it.
Edit: BTW the game becomes really choppy when there is rain in the game, you pretty much cant play the game it gets that bad.

It lags a ton as well on the later levels in survivor mode on PvZ2. Anything after level 10 or so and the amount of zombies kills the fps. The phone also gets uncomfortably hot.
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fruitsalt said:
Ive gotten the nexus 5 to lag substantially while playing FIFA 14, both on Stock and with a Custom ROM and trinity kernel.
The lag was less on the custom ROM and trinity kernel then it was on stock...
why do u guys think there is a lag on the nexus 5, ive played fifa so many times on the iphone 5 and never had a single stutter from it.
Edit: BTW the game becomes really choppy when there is rain in the game, you pretty much cant play the game it gets that bad.
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iOS users expect a good experience.
I get the feel they didn't even try on Android for FIFA.

rancur3p1c said:
iOS users expect a good experience.
I get the feel they didn't even try on Android for FIFA.
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Isn't iPhone the current benchmark to beat. I understand lack of functionality and customization features compared to android but every phone company wants to best the iPhone user experience and fluidity
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fruitsalt said:
Isn't iPhone the current benchmark to beat. I understand lack of functionality and customization features compared to android but every phone company wants to best the iPhone user experience and fluidity
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Lately Apple has gone downhill. I've got myself the latest iPad mini which uses the same A7 processor found in the iPad Air.
There is lag and plenty of it. I've tried Dead Trigger 2 and Bastion and both of the them suffer from lag and the odd stutter every now and then.
And what's even more funny is now theres plenty of fragmentation on iOS. Read the reviews on some of the graphic intensive games. Bugs and crashes galore on some of the slightly older hardware. Plus on the description you will have big captions like " DO NOT BUY IF YOU HAVE THE...." And " DOES NOT WORK ON THE..."
Apple is no longer the benchmark when it comes to games now.
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avocco said:
Lately Apple has gone downhill. I've got myself the latest iPad mini which uses the same A7 processor found in the iPad Air.
There is lag and plenty of it. I've tried Dead Trigger 2 and Bastion and both of the them suffer from lag and the odd stutter every now and then.
And what's even more funny is now theres plenty of fragmentation on iOS. Read the reviews on some of the graphic intensive games. Bugs and crashes galore on some of the slightly older hardware. Plus on the description you will have big captions like " DO NOT BUY IF YOU HAVE THE...." And " DOES NOT WORK ON THE..."
Apple is no longer the benchmark when it comes to games now.
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I kinda agree with your post about apple going downhill. But it still is the benchmark device to beat, its wobbling but hasnt been dethroned just yet. Ios7 is buggy and all the apps have not been optimized for it yet. Same can be said about optimization on KitKat.
The games that iPhone can play with minimum to no stutter are not even playable or are not even available for android.
Fragmentation wise, iPhone has gotten a bit fragmented but you also have to realize the os and the new games are very graphic intensive. Older hardware can not possibly run them properly such as games for ps4 won't ever run on the ps1 or even the ps2, we can't expect current games and os to run on devices older then 2 years. People give android a bad name for fragmentation but it really isn't that bad when u take into account the requirements for the latest software. I do not expect the same software to run perfectly on my nexus 5 and galaxy nexus. True a two year old device is not that old but in technological terms 2 years is more then a decade.
I love android and iOS the same, each has its advantages and disadvantages. My personal device is iOS and work is android, each serves its purpose perfectly.
My only qualm with android is as follows: a device such as the nexus 5 with almost twice the processing power as an iPhone 5, double the number of cores, and twice the memory still can't keep up with the iPhone.
Thats like having a ferrari but still not being able to keep up with a bmw or in this case it would more be like android is a tuned import with all the latest and greatest updates but still cant come close to a stock luxury exotic ( i know the price difference between the two this is just an example). Google and android oems need to work on making android work faster and more fluid on lower specs then just putting in the most ram and the fastest processor, what's the point of having those if it still gets beat by a device with half its specs. if apple introduces a 2.3Ghz quad core phone with 2gb of ram that would be game over.
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I have to disagree with the iPhone being the phone to beat.... Samsung has beaten apple and LG with the nexus 5 and G2 put out two amazing devices that are beyond apples latest and greatest. I am sorry but the iPhone 5s and other iPhones and including the iPads have some pretty noticeable lag and stutters. As for android the improvement has been amazingly awesome android used to be the extremely laggy and stuttered for everything. Now it's pretty much ios fluid. I just switched from the iPhone 5s to the note 3 after a test run to see if I would like ios again and ios7 stutters a lot. To me the note 3 feels more fluid and yes touchwiz is very heavy and hard to run

The lag is a software limitation, not at all hardware related.

Well my experience with bloons TD5 is quite good on N5. I get to about lvl 100 after that it starts to lag a bit more and more with following levels. But in my opinion this is game itself. My friend with galaxy S3 gets to lvl 115-120 before becomes almost unplayable, other folks with N4 gets to 120-125 lvl before it gets unplayable. I get to about lvl 130 before it gets the same as S3 or N4 performance (0.5-2 FPS)
All in all it's bloons TD5 fault, not hardware, game engine itself is at fault.

fruitsalt said:
Isn't iPhone the current benchmark to beat. I understand lack of functionality and customization features compared to android but every phone company wants to best the iPhone user experience and fluidity
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this is EA we're talking about. EA doesn't care about "user experience" only "will it sell" and "is it 90% functional"

rancur3p1c said:
this is EA we're talking about. EA doesn't care about "user experience" only "will it sell" and "is it 90% functional"
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90%? lol I think you're overestimating EA...I'm pretty sure they're satisfied with 60%, judging by every EA produced or sponsored game I've played in the past 5 years. It's a horrible company that needs to be shut down.

skyyrocket said:
I have to disagree with the iPhone being the phone to beat.... Samsung has beaten apple and LG with the nexus 5 and G2 put out two amazing devices that are beyond apples latest and greatest. I am sorry but the iPhone 5s and other iPhones and including the iPads have some pretty noticeable lag and stutters. As for android the improvement has been amazingly awesome android used to be the extremely laggy and stuttered for everything. Now it's pretty much ios fluid. I just switched from the iPhone 5s to the note 3 after a test run to see if I would like ios again and ios7 stutters a lot. To me the note 3 feels more fluid and yes touchwiz is very heavy and hard to run
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I know Samsung and LG have introduced amazing devices but thats still on paper. I'm not comparing them based on reviews or watching videos online, I own both the nexus 5 and the iphone 5s. Android has gotten a lot better from its laggy days and is one hell of a responsive OS with functionality to boot. That being said I can still see the nexus 5 lag and havent been able to make the iphone 5s lag at all, i have had a few apps just crash on me randomly but thats about it.
Everything on the iphone is more fluid then on android. Most of it has to do with apps installed, most developers dont really put in as much time into android as they do on IOS. The specs on the new android devices are amazing running quad core cpus with 2 gb of RAM but in the end what use is all that power when the phone still lags. For instance just a few minutes ago i got a call on the nexus and when the call ended the phone just got stuck on the call screen unresponsive for 30-40 seconds.
If we compare just the hardware then there really is no competition for current android phones, apple has not put out anything with those kinda specs. But if we want to see which OS runs better shouldnt it be on the same kind of hardware. The iphone 5 runs a Dual-Core processor and for me it handles iOS7 perfectly without a lag, i would like to see how a galaxy s2 with a Dual-Core processor would handle kitkat. That would be comparing similar hardware on the latest OS's by each company.
I know you would say why not the s3 and the s4, because they run on quad-core processors. I know this kinda got winded but what im trying to say is that an iphone 5 with half the specs of a current android device performs on par and at times better then those devices then how would android fare if iphone gets a quad-core processor, there is a lot to be said about each OS's optimization based on just the specs.

Have iPhone 5c and Nexus 5...

I have the two phones I had to get the iPhone as nexus 5 on T-Mobile was out of stock even though I had one since YOU HAVE TO GET A DEVICE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR ETF OFFER so I said why not iPhone
So I bring this icrap with me home with my nexus 5 let's take a few seconds here to discuss pricing msrp
IPhone 5s MSRP : ~$500 baseline
Google nexus 5 MSRP: $350 baseline
What the baseline is its the lowest capacity of storage available.
Build quality I would say that though the iPhone 5c was more the pricy msrp the nexus 5 does stand out with its soft touch tone back and ceramic power and volume rocker buttons
OS iOS vs Android
Having both it seems iOS just doesn't seem right.. The 5c stuffers some lag doing basic tasks where ad nexus 5 is solid performance throughout the entire system.
IOS is simpler on some levels however have you tried putting your own custom ringtone on iOS its a mess check it out
http://m.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-ringtones-for-iphone/
The nexus 5 and android simply allows me to download a third party app to trim it then and there and set it or just go on google play long press the song and boom set as ringtone so android is easier on some levels than iOS fair enough give one take one.
Camera : I would say nexus 5 is better but its just preference on the HDR+ which I love.
Battery life; sorry but I give this to apple as the amp hours are smaller on the iPhone than the nexus 5 and it still somehow gets through the day better than the nexus 5 (this doesn't mean you can't improve it though) custom kernals under clocking etc.
Cellular radio performance; sorry giving this to apple hands down the iPhone 5c beats the nexus 5 by almost having no service in room on nexus 5 or 1 bar of LTE on iPhone. Granted the radio is optimized and then google has not yet have a chance to play around.
Overall I'm switching my Sims back and forward the T-Mobile chat reps hate me for switching so much times per day (micro Sim to nano Sim) but overall my head is leaning towards the nexus 5
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markdapimp said:
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I soon as I read that I guessed this would be biased towards the N5. If you're gonna compare at least put them both on a level playing ground.

I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.

maxpower7 said:
I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.
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Or they have never tried anything else and think android is laggy and buggy and reboots all the time. Its all in the iKoolaid

I'm no apple fan but there's no way the nexus 5s camera is better than the iPhone's although I noticed you did qualify what you said with reference to HDR+. I've found that over a period of time the iPhones camera will give consistently better results. It really annoys me but it seems to be the way it is.
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They aren't equal though. It was compared to a 5c.
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I love my iPad air, but I could never go to Apple for all my devices. I love Android too much. Otherwise, I personally feel that both have their pros and cons and it's up to the user to decide what's important to them.

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Or they have never tried anything else and think android is laggy and buggy and reboots all the time. Its all in the iKoolaid
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I always have to laugh when someone tries to make an argument about Android being laggy. Maybe in 2011. It's no longer a valid argument.

maxpower7 said:
I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.
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Agreed. I just updated my iPad mini to the retina one and was expecting to be blown away by its speed and fluidity. Needless to say I was more than a little disappointed. It's fast, don't get me wrong, but the 2013 N7 feels more responsive to me even though it has only an S4 pro in it. Also, the iPad is quite laggy at times. Another big thing is stability- all the iOS fanboys argue about is how stable iOS is compared to Android, yet my experience has been the exact opposite. With my old 4s, my old 5, and my iPad I get constant app crashes and occasional UI freezes. Far more than on Android. The difference is that Android lets you know if something force closes whereas iOS tries to hide it. I still think iOS and iDevices in general are great products and have their merits, but Android has come a looooong way since its birth and there really is no comparison anymore. Android > iOS in pretty much all fronts.
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oddlyshapedstickman said:
I soon as I read that I guessed this would be biased towards the N5. If you're gonna compare at least put them both on a level playing ground.
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Better yet, lets not compare at all. Various threads doing this and they are already too many in numbers
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I love the iOS's vast library of apps and sleek phone/tablet designs, but that's about it. I can not use a 4-inch screen. It literally hurts my eyes. I honestly wish that they made a 6 inch Nexus phone, because I love big screens. And like others have said, Android has come a very long way in terms of stability, support, and smoothness. But most people still think of those crappy Droid phones when they hear Android. Droid was a good name, but ultimately too close to "Android", so now people get them mixed up.
The Apple tax is just too much. I won't pay close to 100% more just for a logo and some aluminum.

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I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.
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IOS runs better on bad hardware, but Android is pretty smooth if you have a mobile/pad with good hardware.

Yeah I'll agree with you on a few things but not all. Price (32gb 5s is $749, 32gb N5 is $399). Build quality on the 5S (only iPhone I had) is great...way better than the Nexus 5. Camera is much better on the N5 with HDR+. Battery life is better on the 5S, no idea why. Apple customer service is miles ahead of LG's CS.
The major reason why I returned the 5S (I've been using android since the beginning of time and wanted to try the dark side out ) is because it was SO SLOW. Everything lagged and stuttered and crashed about 3 times a day. I have now lost all respect for iOS users who say Android crashes and lags. What are they comparing it to, some Alcatel phone?
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lolpok said:
IOS runs better on bad hardware, but Android is pretty smooth if you have a mobile/pad with good hardware.
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No, this used to be right. But with iOS 7 finally having the features that Android has (some), it lags a LOT on a CPU (A7) that supposedly beats the S800.

aooga said:
What are they comparing it to, some Alcatel phone?.
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Some phone running Gingerbread most likely because that's all people know and it's cemented into their minds.

aooga said:
Yeah I'll agree with you on a few things but not all. Price (32gb 5s is $749, 32gb N5 is $399). Build quality on the 5S (only iPhone I had) is great...way better than the Nexus 5. Camera is much better on the N5 with HDR+. Battery life is better on the 5S, no idea why. Apple customer service is miles ahead of LG's CS.
The major reason why I returned the 5S (I've been using android since the beginning of time and wanted to try the dark side out ) is because it was SO SLOW. Everything lagged and stuttered and crashed about 3 times a day. I have now lost all respect for iOS users who say Android crashes and lags. What are they comparing it to, some Alcatel phone?
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No, this used to be right. But with iOS 7 finally having the features that Android has (some), it lags a LOT on a CPU (A7) that supposedly beats the S800.
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then i tell everyone, simply don't use IOS 7

lolpok said:
then i tell everyone, simply don't use IOS 7
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How is that possible with a 5S?
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Some phone running Gingerbread most likely because that's all people know and it's cemented into their minds.
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Even gingerbread didn't lag as much as ios7 on my Captivate. ios7 is truly hopeless.

That's one opinion I guess.
2 Points don't make sense. You can't just give a win away by saying the iPhone wins battery life with less amps and still makes it thru the day. The iPhone is also 4" vs 4.95" screen. <720P screen vs 1080P etc.
The key point is to compare if either phone can get thru the same day doing the same things. Unfortunately out of the box the Nexus 5 does more things. G+, Gmail, GDrive they're all set to stayed sync'd out of the box. The iPhone out of the box does less background data movement.
Radio reception... how can you compare via the bars? They don't mean anything, they're 'feel good' bars. Can you make a call? how fast is the LTE etc... would determine which one wins. From many reviews online and looking at dbi comparisons with devices in hands there's no clear winner.
The Camera, even tho I own an N5 I'd have to give to the iPhone. The color accuracy is better on the iphone, the software stabilization is good enough. Overall it's also easier for the novice to use.
I came from an iPhone to the N5 and was hoping Apple would do something more with iOS7 other than make it look different and work slower. Android for my use has surpassed Apple in functionality. Though I will say for the things iOS does it does it really well and Android can still learn from it. Eg. The calendar the stock one sucks compared to Apple's stock calendar.
That all said the iPhone isn't worth the premium over the $350-$400 for the N5.

lolpok said:
IOS runs better on bad hardware, but Android is pretty smooth if you have a mobile/pad with good hardware.
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Older versions of iOS run better on bad hardware. I don't think a lot of iPhone 4 owners were thrilled with their iOS 7 update.

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Some phone running Gingerbread most likely because that's all people know and it's cemented into their minds.
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on phones running gingerbread, gingerbread is often the best option... it depends on hardware, jb has more hardware acceleration, but gingerbread is lighter on ram. as smooth as jb can feel on the home screen i think the overall performance os better with gb on many single core phones which is why cm7 was supported while cm9 was already out. still everyone has to have the latest and greatest and often convince themselves the new stuff is better when it's sometimes not true..
as far as the feel, apple has animations that may be smooth but there is a noticeable wait. with ios7 its not only a wait but there is a choppyness that android phones might have shown 2-3 years ago. the "long press" on apple also seems a bit longer. i really don't find apple phones to feel fast as much as they look smooth. just my opinion. don't get me wrong..i don't like the company but the device isn't that bad and as much as i hate the elitism of things that exist elsewhere but apple makes them proprietary and brands them for use on apple products only, they do make new tech easy and unintimidating to people that would never discover these things on a pc or android.
i prefer android but the android "ecosystem" is all over the place, some devices get updates, others don't. feature sets vary, build varies. there are literally thousands of devices and many gave people bad experiences. there are too many choices with android while there are no real choices with apple. you chose a color, storage size and 2 performance levels... the screen size doesn't change. the interface stays much the same. i actually prefer the old androids from a feature set point of view. i can do without a keyboard, actually i hate them, but a track ball make text navigations more precise and the menu button was useful. unfortunately people found it confusing (which says volumes about the intelligence of the general population) but i don't know how i went without 300+ ppi for all those years... a 5" screen is kinda big but with a 16:9 aspect ration a 4.2-4.7" screen would be the butter zone. with 16:10 4"-4.2" is good. apple needs to make a wider phone. and android manufacturers need to stop making so many damn phablets..

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I always have to laugh when someone tries to make an argument about Android being laggy. Maybe in 2011. It's no longer a valid argument.
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I think that people always compare these and say android is laggy because they have the latest iPhone and some cheap $49.99 android phone and are wondering why it's so bad. Obviously if you get a budget android phone it's not gonna be that good.....
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Older versions of iOS run better on bad hardware. I don't think a lot of iPhone 4 owners were thrilled with their iOS 7 update.
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THIS. So true

snapdragon 805 support.....

hi guys, what you think about the snapdragon version now that the nexus 6 has it...i mean is it better to get the s805 over the exynos....because the nexus is like the android benchmark phone ( not performance but support)...so maybe apps developers will support this version more....what you think...

We will have to wait and see the first Snapdragon 805 phone is the Galaxy Note 4 and so far on AT&T and T-Mobile, it's a beast. If your a diehard mobile gamer, there will be lag on GTA: San Andreas on Max Graphics. However other games like modern combat 5 play awesome.

no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....

We lucked out these phones are similarly speced and feel that we will benefit from it.
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yeah, there is a problem, now there is a reason to buy each one of the versions, the exynos is better right now, but in the future the s805 will get better support.....

Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way

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Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.

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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.
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Chrome and Facebook stutters often for me too. Running ART on 805. Does Dalvik help? Any solutions?

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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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Agreed. If I were you, I'd return the note ASAP and wait just a couple more weeks for that sexy nexy. You'll save yourself a lot of time and hassle waiting for stable updates, gain access to TONS of mods, and save a little green along the way.

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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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I'd keep the Note if I were you.
The Note 4 Snapdragon probably won't be as good in terms of support as the Nexus 6, but it will be more than good enough I'd guess, based on the volume of support the Note 3 Snapdragon variant got. Plus there's some indication that this Nexus 6, owing to its higher price and phablet size might not get the popularity that the previous generation of Nexus phones got. It'll still be better support wise, but the price advantage the Nexus had is mostly gone.
Hardware wise, I don't think the AMOLED on the Nexus will be as good as the AMOLED on this phone (will wait for reviews). We should wait for reviews I think. My guess though is that the camera, screen, and a few other features will likely be better on the Note, plus it has an S-Pen. The other issue is a lack of a removable battery and expandable storage, so if you are like me and keep a lot of FLAC, you'll have to buy the higher end version (eroding the Nexus price advantage even more).
Keep the Note 4, wait for the Nexus 6 reviews, and go to a store to play around with a Nexus after it comes out.

Is the Note 4 really this laggy?

I just picked up a flawless T-Mobile Note 4 to test out (can't live without root/twrp). I had a Note 3 and used the multi window and pen quite a bit so missed it somewhat. Since last November I have been using a Nexus 6 exclusively. Considering that both phones had the same hardware, I expected similar performance. I know TouchWiz is heavy but I figured with a rom and a kernel it would be at least acceptable. This is not the case.
Unless I am doing something wrong, this phone is unbearably laggy. The first thing I noticed was that scrolling through google maps has stutter no matter what settings I use or what ROM I flash. It's not so choppy that I can't use it, but enough to bug me. This phone is supposed to have the best hardware out there and that's how I expect it to perform. The nexus 6 does not do this. Also I read on another forum that when you flash an aosp rom to the note that specific maps stutter is gone. I don't want to run an aosp rom on my note because it eliminates the features I am looking for in the first place.
Other things such as titanium backup taking almost an hour to restore my apps, whats that all about? I then tried to run a nandroid backup with encryption enabled and that was a huge mistake. The phone almost locked up and took like 2 hours to make a backup. General moving through the UI and multi tasking back and forth is just generally laggy an unnacceptable. It's BAD. It's as if the phone is stuck in power saver mode or something. I tried two roms (pop rocks and tekxodus) and got the same results between both and stock. Also tried emotion kernel and bioshock and flashed them to both roms seperately. All with the same results.
I went into the store to check out a floor model to confirm I don't have a bad unit and they performed the same. While I was there I looked at the s6 and it seemed noticeably better. Maybe this version of TouchWiz really is that heavy and I just don't remember what it was like using the note 3 now that I've had a nexus for so long.
My question is, is this happening to everyone else? Please only respond if you have used a nexus or another phone to compare it to. I'm sure 10 people will be lining up to tell me how fast and smooth their note 4 is and that I'm crazy... but unless you compare it to something else you don't know any different. To me it's a lag fest.
This is NOT a nexus vs note debate. I genuinely would like to solve this issue and keep the Note 4 in anticipation for the Note 5. However I can't live with the way the phone sits right now.

My fiance has a nexus 6, and i find this phone laggy as hell. Flashing any custom rom made it worse. I've done everything i could think of..

Are you saying you find the Nexus or the Note laggy?

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My fiance has a nexus 6, and i find this phone laggy as hell. Flashing any custom rom made it worse. I've done everything i could think of..
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Are you saying you find the Nexus or the Note laggy?

The phone is much snappier on aosp ROMs.

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The phone is much snappier on aosp ROMs.
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I know but then I lose what makes a note a note. Its a shame. Hopefully they can get it ironed out with the Note 5. Maybe I should go poking around in the S6 forums to get some info.

Well its definitely TW, I've tried just about every ROM in the forums for Note 4 and all the TW ROMs have significant lag in scrolling, recents, etc. The aosp ROMs are significantly faster but like you mentioned you lose some of the functionality that makes the Note the Note. There are 3rd party add-ons that can substitute TW stuff pretty well though.

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Well its definitely TW, I've tried just about every ROM in the forums for Note 4 and all the TW ROMs have significant lag in scrolling, recents, etc. The aosp ROMs are significantly faster but like you mentioned you lose some of the functionality that makes the Note the Note. There are 3rd party add-ons that can substitute TW stuff pretty well though.
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So sad. I will give it a few days and if I can't get past it, this thing will be on swappa. If I wanted aosp I would use my nexus 6 with dual forward facing speakers.

Can't compare it to aosp / nexus lol don't get me.wrong love my note but next to aosp /nexus 6 it crawls...if you flash aosp on this thing you realize the potential of the specs. On another note, welcome to the note 4...lol its not snappier than the note 3 can tell you that lol. As for titanium that's titanium issue nothing to do with note 4

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Can't compare it to aosp / nexus lol don't get me.wrong love my note but next to aosp /nexus 6 it crawls...if you flash aosp on this thing you realize the potential of the specs. On another note, welcome to the note 4...lol its not snappier than the note 3 can tell you that lol
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So I was right then! I didn't remember my note 3 being this bad. I don't get it lol What happened.... Maybe they didn't get the drivers right for the GPU and all those pixels are crushing it. Or maybe they just added too much crap to TouchWiz.

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So I was right then! I didn't remember my note 3 being this bad. I don't get it lol What happened.... Maybe they didn't get the drivers right for the GPU and all those pixels are crushing it. Or maybe they just added too much crap to TouchWiz.
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It's touch wiz lol...but there are few batches of note 4 with pure on lag issue...should make sure yours isn't one of those. We had a lot of complaints initially here but they have all been exchange. So look into

seh6183 said:
So I was right then! I didn't remember my note 3 being this bad. I don't get it lol What happened.... Maybe they didn't get the drivers right for the GPU and all those pixels are crushing it. Or maybe they just added too much crap to TouchWiz.
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TW had form worse not better. However there is still quite a but of functionality with the spen on CM 12.1 now. The TW lollipop update was a disaster in my opinion. The phone was barely noticeably faster and it crushed the once great battery life.
I finally gave up on it this week. The AOSP ROMs are just so much faster and I get better battery life to.
However if you compare the Note 4 running CM 12 to the nexus 6 I think you will be pleasantly surprised. The note 4 has a few great things going for it comparatively. Better screen, better camera, etc.
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I've never had a better phone and I have a nexus 6.

I've had the note 3 for a year before upgrading to a note 4. When I tested out the 4 at a store, I immediately noticed laggy performance. Because I wanted a newer phone, I went with the 4 anyway. Once I rooted and flashed a rom, it feels like my old note 3, flawless and smooth. I wouldn't recommend The 4 to anyone if they're not going to root and flash a rom. There's no way this phone should be this laggy with its givens pecs. You DEFINITELY notice performance improvements if set the CPU speed to even 1750. If you root and check CPU speeds on a stock TW rom, you'll notice that it lags because it runs at a very low CPU speed. That is exactly what's causing lags and sluggish perormance. I am running Dynamic pop lollipop TW rom and it is amazingly smooth with great mods.

I think maybe you need a factory exchange.

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It's touch wiz lol...but there are few batches of note 4 with pure on lag issue...should make sure yours isn't one of those. We had a lot of complaints initially here but they have all been exchange. So look into
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Seems to be the same as the floor model in the stores. It's not so laggy that the phone is unusable, it just isn't smooth and instantaneous like it should be. The Nexus does it, the S6 seems to do it. The hardware is there, the software is just ruining it.

https://m.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2mlr7d/lag_everywhere_anyone_else_experiencing_this/
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We're computer geeks and testing 4 the big companies
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There's always gonna be something wrong. I still gave my nexus 6 to my mom

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I've had the note 3 for a year before upgrading to a note 4. When I tested out the 4 at a store, I immediately noticed laggy performance. Because I wanted a newer phone, I went with the 4 anyway. Once I rooted and flashed a rom, it feels like my old note 3, flawless and smooth. I wouldn't recommend The 4 to anyone if they're not going to root and flash a rom. There's no way this phone should be this laggy with its givens pecs. You DEFINITELY notice performance improvements if set the CPU speed to even 1750. If you root and check CPU speeds on a stock TW rom, you'll notice that it lags because it runs at a very low CPU speed. That is exactly what's causing lags and sluggish perormance. I am running Dynamic pop lollipop TW rom and it is amazingly smooth with great mods.
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You mean the minimum at?

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I can assure you that my phone does not behave like that. It flies. The only time it was semi laggy was when I first got it with 5.0 installed. I quickly unlocked the bootloader and disabled forced encryption because it wasn't implemented right on 5.0. Now I'm on 5.1 encrypted and its just as fast; except boot up is a long time.
I have not given up on the Note 4 just yet. I will be doing some side by side comparisons of the camera and other software functions. The Note still has a chance.

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TW had form worse not better. However there is still quite a but of functionality with the spen on CM 12.1 now. The TW lollipop update was a disaster in my opinion. The phone was barely noticeably faster and it crushed the once great battery life.
I finally gave up on it this week. The AOSP ROMs are just so much faster and I get better battery life to.
However if you compare the Note 4 running CM 12 to the nexus 6 I think you will be pleasantly surprised. The note 4 has a few great things going for it comparatively. Better screen, better camera, etc.
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The whole reason I got the Note is for the spen features and the multi window though.