How To : use usb disk for big apps data - Nexus 7 General

ok i know it's in french, i'll add english commentary later
since i'm buying the nexus 4 soon i wanted to find a solution to use microsd or usb disk as space for big apps data like Asphalt, Dead trigger or other big games
and i finally proved myself it works !
feel free to ask, i'm french but i understand and (i think) speaks enough Frenglish :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a26S_m7ZAgk

keyra74 said:
ok i know it's in french, i'll add english commentary later
since i'm buying the nexus 4 soon i wanted to find a solution to use microsd or usb disk as space for big apps data like Asphalt, Dead trigger or other big games
and i finally proved myself it works !
feel free to ask, i'm french but i understand and (i think) speaks enough Frenglish :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a26S_m7ZAgk
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even tough i have not watched the video...i dont think thats any thing new....you could always create symlinks.did you use a diffrent method?

i use usb host controller from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468531
to mount it as /mnt/sdcard so the tab thinks it's his internal sd space
never heard or read anything about symlinks...

keyra74 said:
i use usb host controller from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468531
to mount it as /mnt/sdcard so the tab thinks it's his internal sd space
never heard or read anything about symlinks...
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That Might cause Problems later on.You should try symlinking folders..Take the following example.
the USB drive is mounted as /usb(or anything else)
the sdcard is mounted as /sdcard(or anything else)
the game or app path is /usb/xyz(or anything)
using a terminal type ln-s /usb/xyz /sdcard/xyz
this creates a symlink.and is more preferable.

How go run games from usbdrive http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910051
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hahah you ruined my fun, but thx i'll try your method

Who's method mine or texasjake's?

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[Q] Is it possible to resize emmc for more internal?

Using cm7, I find many issues stem from apps trying to read from SD. is there a way to resize emmc to a smaller size and increase the size of internal storage? or are they on a seperate physical storage?
Thanks
If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 GB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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deadbot1 said:
If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 TB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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well i would like to know that.
Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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deadbot1 said:
Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.
painter_ said:
Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.
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Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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deadbot1 said:
Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
painter_ said:
Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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i would like to know if its possible to use all the 5 gigs for apps and stuff.
painter_ said:
Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.
I would be happy even if there was a nice way to mount the emmc as /sdcard and then mount the actual external sd card as /sdcard/external_sd, similar to how my Captivate handles is. This would at least allow both to be access by all applications, and not just those few that will allow you to access parts of the filesystem besides /sdcard. Is there any reason fstab couldn't be modified to this?
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No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.
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I figured that you all would pretty much take it from here You know exactly what I was asking. Currently EMMC is a huge waste of usable space even if I resize it for DualBoot, I still have a good 2gb left over that could be used to increase the internal storage of my Daily CM7. I use the DB for honeycomb tests.
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Yep, I understand it perfectly...just never would have thought of actually asking about it
anywho...heres hoping that one of the devs or someone with some knowledge of the subject will chime in.
bump bumpty bump. Did we get lost in the 1.2 flood or what?
Really would like to see this happen as well, as it's kind of silly to have such a low amt of space for Apps and then a bunch of space kind of hidden that some may never even know about.
couldnt agree more - bumping my apps to the sdcard is a pain - Id like to have that unwasted /emmc 5 gig slice for something..
I have been looking everywhere to find an answer to this very question. Would love that extra space for apps and what not.
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
12paq said:
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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12paq, this is exactly how I want to roll....I want my music on the 5Gb EMMC partition. I have PowerAmp already loaded. What is the best way to transfer my music from my PC to the EMCC of my NC?
EDIT: Nvm....figured it out...easier than I originally thought.
12paq said:
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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Nope..you are both getting and missing the point. What if I want to store epubs there and my reader app of choice can't see anything but the "internal" storage or SD card. That's roughly 4 gigs of unusable space for me then. It would seem to me that from a compatability standpoint, getting all this to be seen as "internal storage" would be optimal.
Some apps just can't see that mount point, mostly those that were designed with typical phone setups in mind.
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I understand what you're saying... maybe we could start a bounty for resizing emmc for more app storage?
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Storage Solution.

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Gauntlet-Hard-drive-Enclosure-PCGTW25S/dp/B008KW61XK
Purchase that and plug a 2,5" 500GB HDD or a SSD of any type in there and connect it via WiFi to your Nexus 4.
My Nexus 4 will be connected to a 1TB HDD
Are you kidding me its a freaking mobile bro
Red Wolf said:
Are you kidding me its a freaking mobile bro
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I'm not gonna always use the Hard Drive.
I usually have things on a hard drive that I need and don't transfer to my phone so I could use this..
It's not a 24/7... People should purchase this though as many people are complaining about storage.
Will it handle regular files like text and doc filres or is it just for streaming media?
I posted this earlier in Q&A. More choices (but obviously fewer opinions...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966167
donec said:
Will it handle regular files like text and doc filres or is it just for streaming media?
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It'll handle any file not only media.
I best storage solution would be for Google to offer 32 and 64Gb variants.
I can understand their reasoning for not wanting to use sd-cards - and I'm fine with that. I would actually prefer not to use an sd-card myself. That said, if they are going to go down that path, they need to make damn sure that there is adequate on-board storage. Considering storage costs bugger all, it's really quite surprising they are only offering 8Gb and 16Gb variants. 8Gb is just a joke actually!
I know.. this is just a really nice solution.
Uh yeah I have a 9TB NAS box on my network at home that is not the problem...
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I'm not gonna always use the Hard Drive.
I usually have things on a hard drive that I need and don't transfer to my phone so I could use this..
It's not a 24/7... People should purchase this though as many people are complaining about storage.
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Seems like overkill....you can install es file explorer which is free and use it to access smb, ftp etc shares to copy, move, stream files from any pc on your local network.
Lol cloud storage would be alot more simple
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Reviewers said:
http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Gauntlet-Hard-drive-Enclosure-PCGTW25S/dp/B008KW61XK
Purchase that and plug a 2,5" 500GB HDD or a SSD of any type in there and connect it via WiFi to your Nexus 4.
My Nexus 4 will be connected to a 1TB HDD
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Does it have a pass through so you can be connected to the internet via wifi while also connected to the Patriot-Gauntlet-Hard-drive setup?
Will the Patriot-Gauntlet-Hard-drive stream to 3 devices at the same time?
Thanks
thanks for info

SD file system support (aka none) - Xperia T

So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
Ambroos said:
So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
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It should be able to read them.
Just borrow someones galaxy to format your sd card to ext 4 and try that. It should work.
I thought the Xperia T can support microsd up to 32gb
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cf.wu said:
I thought the Xperia T can support microsd up to 32gb
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No, it will support more.
Many people have reported this on these forums
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It should be able to read them.
Just borrow someones galaxy to format your sd card to ext 4 and try that. It should work.
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I used GParted in Linux to format the card from my PC, no dice. I tried EXT2, EXT3, EXT4, NTFS and exFAT. Nothing works. Tried hotplugging and rebooting with the card inserted.
I'm pretty sure the kernel only supports mounting FAT32 SD cards. With FAT32 everything is fine, you can use the full capacity and everything and the phone nicely formats it for you, but I can't live with the 4GB file size limit. Or well, not for the price I paid for the card.
I'm returning the card, doesn't really matter to me, but I absolutely don't get why Sony doesn't implement at least the EXT2/3/4 they use for the internal file system. It's baked into the kernel for sure but it just refuses to mount the SD card with it.
There are init.d scripts that will enable it, and I am sure there is a custom kernel that does enable it.
However, with 4.1 coming in q1 2013 you may want to hang onto that card....
gregbradley said:
There are init.d scripts that will enable it, and I am sure there is a custom kernel that does enable it.
However, with 4.1 coming in q1 2013 you may want to hang onto that card....
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I really don't want to unlock my bootloader or root my phone...
I'm selling the card now, I got it online for way below what they go for in Belgium so I'm actually making a profit anyway. Not that I'm doing it for that, but when I want to I can just get another one around that time (but then I'll test with another card beforehand).
Why are you not for rooting your phone. I'm trying to way up if it's worth doing. And there's also the risk of my tech ability. I would say I'm a rank amateur in the tech department. Any opinions on where I can go to start learning. I have Xperia lt30p. Gratitude to anyone who points me in the right direction.
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kympton said:
Why are you not for rooting your phone. I'm trying to way up if it's worth doing. And there's also the risk of my tech ability. I would say I'm a rank amateur in the tech department. Any opinions on where I can go to start learning. I have Xperia lt30p. Gratitude to anyone who points me in the right direction.
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I've rooted tons of phones before, I'm a software development student and an extreme Android geek, but I like the safe, walled garden I'm in right now. I like what Sony has done with Android and want to keep as much of it intact to be honest.
I've rooted my own phones before too, but I felt I really spent too much time messing with it after doing those things, always tweaking things that really didn't do anything but offer placebo effects. I like not having to worry about that stuff.
And I don't want to risk any sort of warranty loss.
That's exactly what has been holding me back. If I was to root it I don't have any dev skills so would probably end up doing exactly what you explained. Just tweaking for tweaking's sake. But I do want to start understanding what's being said in forums. Some of it goes way over my head. I would like to test the limits of my Xperia t but am a little unsure where to start. How do you feel the Xperia t holds up in the top ranks of smartphones. This is my first Sony smart and I'm fairly happy so far.
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Start by reading the all in one thread in the Q&A section.
You will not void any warranty by rooting as you can always revert back to factory settings by flashing a stock ftf and no one will know.
Furthermore you can do more than just placebo tweaks, like remove bloatware and change the look of your phone by adding new systemui.apk mods. Take a look in the theme and app section
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How do I customise the signature on xda premium app?
Ambroos said:
So, I just got myself a 64GB MicroSDXC from SanDisk to use in my Xperia T as storage for some movies. I planned on formatting it in EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 or EXFAT so I can store files bigger than 4GB on this.
But... turns out the Xperia T won't read anything but FAT32. I can use the full capacity just fine and it works perfectly, but you're stuck if you want to load anything bigger than 4GB since FAT32 can't handle it.
Sort of sucks.
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You had the same idea as me. I purchased a MicroSD card today, although it was only 8GB. I can confirm that anything other than Fat32 is not readable by the Xperia T running stock ICS.
I'm splitting the HD movies into two parts as a short-term workaround.
Further to the above, I can confirm that splitting the movie files using Split and Concat on a Mac (or Hjsplit on Windows), produces files which play fine in VLC player and MX player. The downside is that you have to navigate to the file using a file browser, for example, Astro and select play as video file and select your choice of player.
Not a very elegant solution, but allows Fat32 to be used and movie files larger than 4GB to be transferred and played.
Hope this helps!
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I can confirm that anything other than Fat32 is not readable by the Xperia T running stock ICS.
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Wrong! I've got an EXT3/4 formatted 64gb card in my Xperia T and have about 45gb of data on it at the mo, and all of which is accessible. As Greg has already suggested, and I formatted mine using a Samsung Galaxy Note, but you could probably use any latest generation Galaxy!
There are at least 2 other threads discussing this (SD capacity and format). People really should use the search function - and they are probably in the Q & A thread.
Oh and I'm stock ROM, with nothing unlocked.
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Wrong! I've got an EXT3/4 formatted 64gb card in my Xperia T and have about 45gb of data on it at the mo, and all of which is accessible. As Greg has already suggested, and I formatted mine using a Samsung Galaxy Note, but you could probably use any latest generation Galaxy!
There are at least 2 other threads discussing this (SD capacity and format). People really should use the search function - and they are probably in the Q & A thread.
Oh and I'm stock ROM, with nothing unlocked.
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Are you sure it's ext3/ext4? Can you put files over 4GB on your SD? I formatted the card directly from GParted on my PC and tried about every file system there is and really only FAT32 was recognized.
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Are you sure it's ext3/ext4? Can you put files over 4GB on your SD? I formatted the card directly from GParted on my PC and tried about every file system there is and really only FAT32 was recognized.
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Not absolutely sure but I had to use an ext3/4 mounting tool to get readonly access when I inserted the card directly into my Windows PC. (not being able to get read/write access I tend to just connect the phone to the PC these days though.)
I've got a couple of > 4gb movies on the card and they seem to be playing fine.
Hi everyone! Has someone tried the xperia z with a 32 card with exFAT or ex# (no fat32 file system) and work with files bigger than 4 gb? It is most important for me to handle this file size. Thanks!
brau__lio said:
Hi everyone! Has someone tried the xperia z with a 32 card with exFAT or ex# (no fat32 file system) and work with files bigger than 4 gb? It is most important for me to handle this file size. Thanks!
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This is the Xperia T/TL/TX/V-section. The Z is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2083
Mad Marty said:
This is the Xperia T/TL/TX/V-section. The Z is discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2083
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Sorry, I meant Xperia T. Thanks!

swap internal with external storage

Hi,
Now that several custom Roms are out with init.d support does anyone know of a script that can be used with script manager to swap internal and external at boot?
I have a 512 GB SD card rigged inside of my 10000 MAH battery on my phone. Just need to swap the two so I can have unlimited space for games.
If you have a working script and share I will give you $50
Where did you get a 512 GB micro SD I thought they only went up to 128 gb
SD, not micro SD... Hadn't thought of trying something like that! Kudos.
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SD, not micro SD... Hadn't thought of trying something like that! Kudos.
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Yes I bought one from Sandisk full sized SD. Then you buy a SD to micro SD adapter off Ebay and you can use it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=SD+...%2Fsdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter%2F11922;800;600
That is the one I use
Combined with a flexible extended battery case it actually fits in nice and snug. Basically a god mode phone
512 GBs works like a charm.
Just need a good script to install all my apps there.
I have used folder mount in the past but even when using folder mount your internal memory slowly fills up...and eventually even with moving all files possible you run into an issue where you have 0 space on internal memory and tons on the SD.
I really wish they would not restrict Android this way
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SD, not micro SD... Hadn't thought of trying something like that! Kudos.
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I've seen a few how tos with the SD card and ribbon cable. Quite simple yet ingenious really!
Trev186 said:
Yes I bought one from Sandisk full sized SD. Then you buy a SD to micro SD adapter off Ebay and you can use it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=SD+...%2Fsdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter%2F11922;800;600
That is the one I use
Combined with a flexible extended battery case it actually fits in nice and snug. Basically a god mode phone
512 GBs works like a charm.
Just need a good script to install all my apps there.
I have used folder mount in the past but even when using folder mount your internal memory slowly fills up...and eventually even with moving all files possible you run into an issue where you have 0 space on internal memory and tons on the SD.
I really wish they would not restrict Android this way
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Yeah I know how you feel... I use the Xposed module called XInternalSD on mine. I used to use a init.d script that did it on my Note 2 with 4.12 but got lazy and grabbed the Xposed module on this phone. But wow! A 512 GB SD card is crazy! I thought I had alot of crap and am planning on grabbing a 128. Your setup and the whole ribbon deal I had completely forgot about. Might end up reconsidering :good: I wonder if a Init.d script would still work since KitKat and changing the storage writing etc. I'll look further into this tonight. No need for money although that is very generous though. Not sure how I feel about developing and donations. I kinda feel like we do this stuff for fun and not profit but oh well. I'm not against it but personally don't think I could do that personally. Of course, I've never done anything to extravagant here anyways. Modded some roms, themes, hacks, etc. but nothing too fancy. I'll post back here if I find anything worth mentioning. XInternalSD works nicely though. The path is to internal card should be /storage/extSdCard on the settings part of the app. The init.d script should look something like this:
sleep 10
mount -o remount,rw /
mount -t vfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:49 /storage/sdcard0
sleep 30
mount -o bind /data/media /storage/extSdCard
chmod 777 /mnt/extSdCard
sleep 10
chown 1023:1023 /storage/extSdCard
chown 1000:1000 /storage/sdcard0
That's from my old one. Please don't use that lol! I just got to find the new value for the Note 4. It's either 179:64 or 179:65.... Hmmm... Not sure if anything else is needed since KitKat is different. [email protected] lol!
sino8r said:
I've seen a few how tos with the SD card and ribbon cable. Quite simple yet ingenious really!
Yeah I know how you feel... I use the Xposed module called XInternalSD on mine. I used to use a init.d script that did it but got lazy and grabbed the Xposed module on this phone. But wow! A 512 GB SD card is crazy! I thought I had alot of crap and am planning on grabbing a 128. Your setup and the whole ribbon deal I had completely forgot about. Might need up reconsidering :good:
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how does xinternalSD work?
If I already have apps installed will it move everything to the SD that is already on the phone?
If I set it to do all apps will it run stay persistent through restarts so the phone always looks there or is a script needed?
I am not fond of foldermount it is clunky and as i said before it is possible to move all the apps off the SD card and still have the internal memory fill up. Plus there is the issue of internal memory filling up with non app stuff and then the phone refusing to let u install anything new from play store due to the apps not having enough space on the phone supposedly.
there must be a way to do a swap....
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how does xinternalSD work?
If I already have apps installed will it move everything to the SD that is already on the phone?
If I set it to do all apps will it run stay persistent through restarts so the phone always looks there or is a script needed?
I am not fond of foldermount it is clunky and as i said before it is possible to move all the apps off the SD card and still have the internal memory fill up. Plus there is the issue of internal memory filling up with non app stuff and then the phone refusing to let u install anything new from play store due to the apps not having enough space on the phone supposedly.
there must be a way to do a swap....
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I think it's just a fancy app to emulate that script storage swap. You should just try those two values I gave ya. I'm sure one of them will work. As far as some space on internal being eaten up... It seems unavoidable but it(the module or script) does help alot. I just got my device a couple of weeks ago and have been weeding through my old apps and what I want to keep etc. I'm an app hoarder apparently like yourself Anyways, so far the module seems to be keeping internal clean. It's worth a shot especially seeing all the work you put into making a giant storage space for yourself. I have to say I'm a bit jealous. Might have to get myself an early Christmas gift lol!
Oh I'm sorry. I forgot one part. Apparently if I remember correctly you don't want to have internal fill up too much or apps won't install like you said. Android internal requires 10% of available storage space to available or sh!t won't sync or install etc. So I totally understand. The problem is that now that storage is larger these days... 10% could be several GBs worth of space which is really stupid. If I were you... I'd try the Xposed module first and see if anything is moved. I kind of doubt it. You could move it manually with one of those apps you mentioned. There are quite a few up there if you don't like your current clunky one. I'll probably fiddle with those values on the init.d script soon if I get some more free time. I gotta do some more research and what exactly was changed with KitKat. I had been using 4.1.2 until very recently lol!
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I think it's just a fancy app to emulate that script storage swap. You should just try those two values I gave ya. I'm sure one of them will work. As far as some space on internal being eaten up... It seems unavoidable but it(the module or script) does help alot. I just got my device a couple of weeks ago and have been weeding through my old apps and what I want to keep etc. I'm an app hoarder apparently like yourself Anyways, so far the module seems to be keeping internal clean. It's worth a shot especially seeing all the work you put into making a giant storage space for yourself. I have to say I'm a bit jealous. Might have to get myself an early Christmas gift lol!
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yeah once i am done with the 4 hour transfeer of the contents of my card to PC so I can safely screw around with it & not wipe it I will try a few things out with the scripts and modules.
I dont understand why Google makes it so hard to do this. They obviously took away the loop holes a lot of people used to do use to prevent it.
Hell I think they are insane for trying to kill off SD cards. The rate this industry has updated the internal storage vs the demands of game apps which come out is stupid...
The best phones are mainly for games, Highest downloaded apps games, apps people spend on most game...
games need memory. I could wipe out this 32 GB of storage with 10 games if I were selective. In this day and age that is just dumb.
Jack the price of the phone up...I paid $800 for my 512 GB SD card....obviously there is a demand for it. Hell a 128 Gb or 64 GB internal memory in the states would sell better then these 4 GB budget phones the industry spits out
majority of people i know who use smartphones use them for facebook, instgram, the camera and a few other social apps and maybe angry birds....
For these people to need these beefy processors and ram and it is overkill.
Trev186 said:
yeah once i am done with the 4 hour transfeer of the contents of my card to PC so I can safely screw around with it & not wipe it I will try a few things out with the scripts and modules.
I dont understand why Google makes it so hard to do this. They obviously took away the loop holes a lot of people used to do use to prevent it.
Hell I think they are insane for trying to kill off SD cards. The rate this industry has updated the internal storage vs the demands of game apps which come out is stupid...
The best phones are mainly for games, Highest downloaded apps games, apps people spend on most game...
games need memory. I could wipe out this 32 GB of storage with 10 games if I were selective. In this day and age that is just dumb.
Jack the price of the phone up...I paid $800 for my 512 GB SD card....obviously there is a demand for it. Hell a 128 Gb or 64 GB internal memory in the states would sell better then these 4 GB budget phones the industry spits out
majority of people i know who use smartphones use them for facebook, instgram, the camera and a few other social apps and maybe angry birds....
For these people to need these beefy processors and ram and it is overkill.
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Exactly... I think since Google is pushing certain criteria on their own phones that they want to do so on the rest. In turn they have really stunted their own Nexus devices with lack of removable battery and storage. It's insane. And the beefier cpu/gpu/ram doesn't help if you don't have the Storage to run those games, apps, etc. Very happy Samsung hasn't done away with it yet... I think they realize they have the edge on all other phones because of this. The solutions are so simple it just blows my mind that few others get it. I think they are just trying to monetize on the whole situation by forcing us to buy the phones with larger storage. It's just wrong though. Screw over folks too much and you'll lose customers. Some don't get it until it's too late. Keep us filled in with how it goes. I'll check back here once I play with the script some.
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I've seen a few how tos with the SD card and ribbon cable. Quite simple yet ingenious really!
Yeah I know how you feel... I use the Xposed module called XInternalSD on mine. I used to use a init.d script that did it on my Note 2 with 4.12 but got lazy and grabbed the Xposed module on this phone. But wow! A 512 GB SD card is crazy! I thought I had alot of crap and am planning on grabbing a 128. Your setup and the whole ribbon deal I had completely forgot about. Might end up reconsidering :good: I wonder if a Init.d script would still work since KitKat and changing the storage writing etc. I'll look further into this tonight. No need for money although that is very generous though. Not sure how I feel about developing and donations. I kinda feel like we do this stuff for fun and not profit but oh well. I'm not against it but personally don't think I could do that personally. Of course, I've never done anything to extravagant here anyways. Modded some roms, themes, hacks, etc. but nothing too fancy. I'll post back here if I find anything worth mentioning. XInternalSD works nicely though. The path is to internal card should be /storage/extSdCard on the settings part of the app. The init.d script should look something like this:
sleep 10
mount -o remount,rw /
mount -t vfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:49 /storage/sdcard0
sleep 30
mount -o bind /data/media /storage/extSdCard
chmod 777 /mnt/extSdCard
sleep 10
chown 1023:1023 /storage/extSdCard
chown 1000:1000 /storage/sdcard0
That's from my old one. Please don't use that lol! I just got to find the new value for the Note 4. It's either 179:64 or 179:65.... Hmmm... Not sure if anything else is needed since KitKat is different. [email protected] lol!
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If it helps I think the external SD is 179:65 since while messing around with another app it claimed that 179:65 appeared to be formatted as exfat which is the format of my SD card. I think the internal storage is formatted differently.
I know with the Note 2 there was a script you could run and set it for boot every-time that would swap the two.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-n...sd-card-with-rooted-galaxy-note-2-app2sd-mod/
If someone can go ahead and make it possible for the note 4 that'd be great.
XxLostSoulxX said:
I know with the Note 2 there was a script you could run and set it for boot every-time that would swap the two.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-n...sd-card-with-rooted-galaxy-note-2-app2sd-mod/
If someone can go ahead and make it possible for the note 4 that'd be great.
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Yeah that's basically it what I posted. I've just got to place around with it first.
I've been playing around with values and haven't quite figured it out yet. The mounts are different, vold, and chown. I've changed a few different things here & there but no luck yet. I'll post it here or a redirect if I get it working.
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Yeah that's basically it what I posted. I've just got to place around with it first.
I've been playing around with values and haven't quite figured it out yet. The mounts are different, vold, and chown. I've changed a few different things here & there but no luck yet. I'll post it here or a redirect if I get it working.
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Any luck? I have tried but no avail.
I did manage to get the ext storage to disappear a few times though lol.
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Any luck? I have tried but no avail.
I did manage to get the ext storage to disappear a few times though lol.
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Yeah I basically gave up. Keep getting FCing even with the correct settings. Did you try the Xposed module? It works nicely. Plus, I noticed they brought back move app to SD function which I might end up using on my larger apps. Not sure what else I can do. I may do some searching in the S5 threads. There's one particular mod I'd like to look at as well. It's a version of the download Booster that works with HSPA and lower MB threshold. That would be VERY HANDY to have working on our device!
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Yeah I basically gave up. Keep getting FCing even with the correct settings. Did you try the Xposed module? It works nicely. Plus, I noticed they brought back move app to SD function which I might end up using on my larger apps. Not sure what else I can do. I may do some searching in the S5 threads. There's one particular mod I'd like to look at as well. It's a version of the download Booster that works with HSPA and lower MB threshold. That would be VERY HANDY to have working on our device!
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I read that one way to do it in kitkat is to get into your actual kernel image and edit it in there.
A little out of my exp but I may give it a try.
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Yeah I basically gave up. Keep getting FCing even with the correct settings. Did you try the Xposed module? It works nicely. Plus, I noticed they brought back move app to SD function which I might end up using on my larger apps. Not sure what else I can do. I may do some searching in the S5 threads. There's one particular mod I'd like to look at as well. It's a version of the download Booster that works with HSPA and lower MB threshold. That would be VERY HANDY to have working on our device!
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This guy here can get it to work on Kit Kat. He says he is also planning to get a Note 4 this year:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468596&page=43
Hopefully he does soon and he creates the mod for Note 4
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This guy here can get it to work on Kit Kat. He says he is also planning to get a Note 4 this year:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468596&page=43
Hopefully he does soon and he creates the mod for Note 4
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Mattiadj is a beast at this true, but you guys are also awesome for even attempting this mod for our note 4's. I've been rocking his mods since the note 2 and can't live without them now, one of the reasons I can't give up my note 3 because of his very useful mod lol

No EXT SD Card - Try using OTG

I was very dissapointed that I could not use an External SD card with the S6 - but recently read a post that explained how to use OTG to provide working external storage that integrates with TWRP.
You have to be on the lastest version of TWRP for this to work TWRP Version 2.8.6.2
Then you have to have an OTG Device that you can connect to your phone - I personally chose this one - I am not suggesting you buy this - only showing you one of many different options - this one is a micro so it is very small
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RBGYGPG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
and then you will need a USB Storage device of some kind - Thumb Drive - or whatever. I found a very small micro USB storage with 64GB that I am using.
Once you have everything you need - the Correct TWRP installed - reboot to recovery and plug your OTG-USB Storage into the S6.
Go to MOUNTS and Mount the OTG
now you can flash roms if you have any stored on it- you can create and restore Nandroid Backups - everything you could do with an Ext SD card on your previous phone.
I believe it is important to UNMOUNT the OTG Device before you unplug it. Probably is safest if you do - to avoid data corruption. I have only been using mine for a day or two - but i have backed up and restored from OTG and it works beautifully. Might be a tad slower than using your normal SD Card.
WHen flashing roms or creating or restoring backups - be sure to choose OTG as the storage you want to use in TWRP just like you did when using an EXT SD Card.
It is not the perfect solution to replacing an External SD Card - but it comes damn close. And personally, with the MICRO OTG and USB it is very small and not cumbersome at all. Works Beautifully,
I hope this helps you
Yup....that's what I use. Store all my music on it
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-conne...F8&qid=1431018386&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+otg
is what i use. have had it for a long time for use with my n7
rjayflo said:
Yup....that's what I use. Store all my music on it
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I must have been living under a rock - or maybe because I never needed it before, I didn't look into it more. now without an EXT SD Card, it has become very handy to extend the 64GB storage my S6 has to almost indefinite possibilities.
drksilenc said:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-conne...F8&qid=1431018386&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+otg
is what i use. have had it for a long time for use with my n7
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I was looking for a small 3.0 when I first started searching for these - I guess I didn't search hard enough - does the 3.0 make a noticible difference in speed when backing up stuff or no?
Good thread op - thanks for the heads up. I just nandroided to a usb drive (tbh don't know if it's usb 2.0 or 3.0) but it took 45 minutes to complete Lol. 10Gb total. It worked though so cool. I'll have to try on a usb 3.0 forsure to tell the differences.
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I was looking for a small 3.0 when I first started searching for these - I guess I didn't search hard enough - does the 3.0 make a noticible difference in speed when backing up stuff or no?
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Depends on how large your install is. A large nandroid it will deff save time
130MB/S is the speed of this one and that is more important than the usb 3.
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USB 3 may help for PC transfers, but keep in mind that the S6 is only USB2...
As it is, since i have a 64GB card from my S4, i went with a rather handy solution: http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20
I prefer wireless access. Plus, with a wireless storage device your not limited by device. Anything can access this thing, I have used it on my phone, home media player. Not a bad device, supports microsd, regular usb flash drives etc. Love it.
http://amzn.to/1ckAgsc
drksilenc said:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-conne...F8&qid=1431018386&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+otg
is what i use. have had it for a long time for use with my n7
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This is what I use as well. I have it on my key chain so I always have it. Works great.
Prod1702 said:
This is what I use as well. I have it on my key chain so I always have it. Works great.
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I appreciate the tip - I picked one of those up the other day - ordred from Amazon - and it is perfect - very small - less than 1 inch long - it really helps make up for not having an External SD Card - and it is pretty fast too -
mocsab said:
I appreciate the tip - I picked one of those up the other day - ordred from Amazon - and it is perfect - very small - less than 1 inch long - it really helps make up for not having an External SD Card - and it is pretty fast too -
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Can you store all your pictures on that? I have the 32gb and I have all the apps I need installed and I still have 19gb left and I want to keep it that way so I figured all the pics I take I can just put it on one of those. If it really does work like that than it really does make up for not having a SD card.
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I already had a 64gb SD card so I purchased this cheap little thing, will let everyone know how it works once it comes in.
Thanks a lot for posting this!! It has help me a lot. I am 1 who is used to using an ext sdcard, so this is great it almost does replace it. Thank You much @mocsab:highfive:
This thing looks pretty awesome for $27 (64GB USB 3)
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Voyager-Android-devices-CMFVG-64GB-NA/dp/B00HVT27B8
rjayflo said:
Yup....that's what I use. Store all my music on it
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But I can't see my music in Google play! I'm using a Nexus 5x which is on latest marshmallow

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