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This thread will be a general area for Pakistani owners and potential owners to hang out, ask questions, get advice and get help quickly.
Although it will not officially launched in Pakistan but it is available with HSN right now.
Hi. thanks for making the thread
Where is it available on HSN i can't see...
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Hi. thanks for making the thread
Where is it available on HSN i can't see...
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http://homeshopping.pk/products/LG-Google-Nexus-4-in-Pakistan.html
Stupidly expensive at the moment.
God.!
Can't wait to get my hands on this thing...!
I hope it gets further easily available on other online stores like HSN jaldiiii...!!
Wait for price drop
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That is seriously expensive
Come on, $299 is roughly 30K PKR...
Any alternatives?
Your best shot is if you have someone coming to Pakistan from the US. I ordered mine earlier Nexus 4 is 8k more expensive in the UK.
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That is seriously expensive
Come on, $299 is roughly 30K PKR...
Any alternatives?
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importing or waiting.
harisn said:
Your best shot is if you have someone coming to Pakistan from the US. I ordered mine earlier Nexus 4 is 8k more expensive in the UK.
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Just pray you don't get a rattling one. The initial batch has some problems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988292
The US and Canadian prices are at par, then come the Australian prices, then the European prices.
I think Homeshopping's getting it from LG directly since LG's supplying the phones at a ludicrous price worldwide... which explains why many third party chains in Europe aren't carrying the phone.
Order it from the US if you want. I would...but I already got myself upgraded to 4.2 on the GNexus. Its the hardware and price which is the most appealing factor for me, then the camera.
(I wonder how good the camera is in the released version.)
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I am really looking forward to Nexus 4 and just cant wait to get my hands on it. I will keep following this thread inshallah.
any one here have some links in USA or dubai, through only personal trips we can have nexus 4. not locally
Locally it's price will be around 44 to 48. that is just Stupid.
299$ roughly comes out to be 28.7k right now..
HSN is selling 8GB @ 49k which is an insane Price.After 13th Nov,HSN were busy taking pre orders.But i dont know who would pre order 8GB version at that ridiculous price.Wait for a while,this price would go down very soon inshaAllah
Still hoping for a price drop.
.:finger's crossed:.
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Still hoping for a price drop.
.:finger's crossed:.
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so its 50k for 16gb model from shophive now! I'm a new user and this forum isnt letting me post a link here, just goto shophive dot com and the home page lists Nexus 4 16gb.
waiting for it to hit 45k and its all mine!
So i think its imp to post in this thread i just noticed as i myself am also waiting for a nexus 4 like the rest of you... sold my s2 already and am now living on a sony eric w610i which is like 7 years old... should have taken a friends advice who told me... "you dont let one girlfriend go until you have the next one IN hand"... oh well... was trying to get it from the US but thanks to the ridiculous backorders of 6 weeks its no longer possible... i was thinking there was a logical explanation for google effing up SO badly but unfortunately there is none... the amount of customers they have and will keep losing due to missing out on this christmas season is quite a horrendous publicity stunt... I for one am also having second thoughts on is it really worth he wait...?
Anywhoo... till then... guess we have xda and can get more info on the problems surrounding this phone before actually getting it... the glass back shattering is something clumsy ppl must worry about and soon enough china will be churning out bumpers at the rate the subcontinents population grows... should be a big problem...
Now... the main issue i wanted to address here is the fact how people keep going on and on about how "aawwwww commoonnnn HSN, the Nexus is ONLY for $299.... why you sell so expensivveeeee " .... to which on every comment its very convenient for them to respond by saying... "the phone isnt available anywhere for that price... please tell me where you can find it at that price..." to which every person is like UHHHHHHHHHHHhhhHHHHHhhhhh
The sad part is HSN is right... the phone ISNT available anywhere for that price... because you have to add shipping AND tax, which brings the total to around $330 for the 8gb, and $380 for the 16gb... which comes to less than but approx 33k for the 8gb and 38k for the 16gb... which means... paying 49k for a 8gb means your being over charged by more than 15k on the phone... which is RIDICULOUS... thats $150 more...
I much rather get the 16gb from shophive for 50k as someone pointed out but wait... did you notice it says "ON ORDER"... what that means is... when you order... you probably wont get it when your expecting it in 2-3 days...
Now what i dont like is when people try to run a business but conveniently DENY they keep themselves a profit margin... For Example, If you notice on HSNs wall... every post is Oh its costing us that much hence the price high, oh international market is high not our fault... Oh google has limited 1 phone per person hence cant order from there... seriously...?? unfortunately most the ppl who post arnt educated enough in the matter and when you try to educate them (like myself who had posted a similar post on their wall which OBVIOUSLY they didnt approve)...
Having said that... when the nexus sales opened they were limited to 5 phones per head... not 1... not 2... 5 per head... only AFTER the sales reopened YESTERDAY was a limit of 2 phones per head ensued. But if you will notice Looonnnngggg before yesterday there have been chants of OH NO... ONLY ONE or TWO Phones per head like Apple limits, hence we have no choice... and were like peterpan... who does all the hard work and gives you the phones for our cost price and not earn a penny out of it...
To that i say.... "N*GGA PLEASE"...
You want to do business... your absolutely entitled to it... but dont lie blatantly to everyones face... if you dont know... say you dont know... but dont pull theories out your A$$ and expect noone to call you out. Im honestly willing to pay more than the price of the phone to get my hands on it... but NOT 15k more... screw that... i much rather wait for it because as most of you know... LG resale in pakistan is as bad as motorolas ... even tho they have amazing hardware and high quality phones, when a layman here sees the logo L-G... it leaves a taste of Atif Aslam trying to sell KG-125's to the pakistani population...
Im keeping my eye out for anyway to get the nexus from abroad for a more reasonable price and will be happy to do the same for someone who wants one... in the mean time i request if anyone can order me a phone as well ill be more than grateful...
Hope those of you who took the time to read this post will try to help spread awareness about dealings in our "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC"... and help your fellow Brother and sister out in getting what they want/need....
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Im keeping my eye out for anyway to get the nexus from abroad for a more reasonable price and will be happy to do the same for someone who wants one... in the mean time i request if anyone can order me a phone as well ill be more than grateful...
Hope those of you who took the time to read this post will try to help spread awareness about dealings in our "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC"... and help your fellow Brother and sister out in getting what they want/need....
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Get one for me!! :laugh:
Currently i'm trying to buy through a friend in Canada.
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so its 50k for 16gb model from shophive now! I'm a new user and this forum isnt letting me post a link here, just goto shophive dot com and the home page lists Nexus 4 16gb.
waiting for it to hit 45k and its all mine!
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50k for 16GB right now is impossible..
HSN is selling 8GB @49k
A day or 2 ago i saw a Pakistani site selling 16GB @ 58k..
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Now... the main issue i wanted to address here is the fact how people keep going on and on about how "aawwwww commoonnnn HSN, the Nexus is ONLY for $299.... why you sell so expensivveeeee " .... to which on every comment its very convenient for them to respond by saying... "the phone isnt available anywhere for that price... please tell me where you can find it at that price..." to which every person is like UHHHHHHHHHHHhhhHHHHHhhhhh
The sad part is HSN is right... the phone ISNT available anywhere for that price... because you have to add shipping AND tax, which brings the total to around $330 for the 8gb, and $380 for the 16gb... which comes to less than but approx 33k for the 8gb and 38k for the 16gb... which means... paying 49k for a 8gb means your being over charged by more than 15k on the phone... which is RIDICULOUS... thats $150 more...
I much rather get the 16gb from shophive for 50k as someone pointed out but wait... did you notice it says "ON ORDER"... what that means is... when you order... you probably wont get it when your expecting it in 2-3 days...
Now what i dont like is when people try to run a business but conveniently DENY they keep themselves a profit margin... For Example, If you notice on HSNs wall... every post is Oh its costing us that much hence the price high, oh international market is high not our fault... Oh google has limited 1 phone per person hence cant order from there... seriously...?? unfortunately most the ppl who post arnt educated enough in the matter and when you try to educate them (like myself who had posted a similar post on their wall which OBVIOUSLY they didnt approve)...
Having said that... when the nexus sales opened they were limited to 5 phones per head... not 1... not 2... 5 per head... only AFTER the sales reopened YESTERDAY was a limit of 2 phones per head ensued. But if you will notice Looonnnngggg before yesterday there have been chants of OH NO... ONLY ONE or TWO Phones per head like Apple limits, hence we have no choice... and were like peterpan... who does all the hard work and gives you the phones for our cost price and not earn a penny out of it...
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You know there are several posts of mine there at HSN 'LG Nexus 4' thread..
What surprised me was that HSN already knew that Google has restricted the devices as only 1 device/person.It was way before the official launch when HSN Mods were spreading such lies.Same answer to each & every query.I asked them to publish my comment & i'll give you the proof that people got more than one device.They did publish my post but in response the mod posted a big reply & also showed me a link of gsmarena..that post stated that google had restricted 2 devices/person.
& about our Pak people..around 99.99% people asked the same question ie 'it is available @ 299$'
They forgot that one has to pay Shipping cost+taxes.If people know the official price,then why bother coming to HSN site & bashing them.They should go & get it @ 299$ instead.Only then people would come to know the actual price.I know HSN price right now is very high,so as every dealer out there..All are like that.Outside google play,its price is more or less the same everywhere.Look at T-mobile selling it at 499$.
But people just don't get it.This device is very popular at present time.Its demand is so high.everyone wants it.Once this hype dies,price would go down big time.
PS->$380 for the 16gb version..that's the total cost if someone receives it in USA..When you bring it to Pakistan,you have to pay tax & also shipping charges from USA to Pakistan.
If you add them all,still HSN & all other are selling it at very high price because of demand
so i just spoke to shophive... and they actually are giving the 16gb for 50k... saying they ordered a few already and got them in 3 days... next order being sent out for another 4 phones... thats a amazing price... i asked him for discounts and he said just wait and its just high due to short supply but soon when it comes in the prices will drop here because its a LG and there is no such market here for it (as i already mentioned in my previous post), so those of you who are willing to spend 50k on the nexus, shophive seems tto be the real deal... MUCH bettter than HSN...
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I was talking to one of my buddies here at work who is also an Android Freak like myself and we were discussing about how Google and LG can sell such a device packing what it does for $299 or $349.
It's seems like it has really beautiful build quality also, while Samsung sells a plastic dual core S3 with half the RAM, lower resolution screen for double the price!
Don't get me wrong, I am both happy and sad that the phone is so damn cheap. Glad because it is so dirt cheap that I can buy it as a backup phone to my Note 2 and just not worry about it falling and breaking or whatever. Replacing just the LCD on my Note 2 would probably pay for the whole Nexus 4!
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
I know this post seems a bit ridiculous, but that's something that is bugging me a little about the device. What do you guys think? A little something inside kinda wish Google priced this device similar to the Galaxy Nexus. I think it would have been more special to me. Am I crazy?
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Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks.
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Just because people are excited, you're assuming they're 13? Right...
... and imo, the price does not make it any less exclusive.
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
In any case, mainstream smartphones, like all technology, will always be getting less exclusive. If exclusivity is of import, the Tag Heuer Android phones look quite sharp, but probably will be behind on the OS curve...
Setting aside the ridiculousness of caring about exclusivity, your work colleagues likely got sticker-shock because they don't know much about the cellphone market. I'm sure they don't think of the iPhone as an "exclusive" device, and yet it's in the same range as the Note 2 off-contract. The Nexus 4 may not be a monetarily exclusive device, but it's still going to have limited sales due to the number of people who are informed enough about their options to pick one up.
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You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
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Front-to-front. The back's the best-looking part, after all; and the part that displays the ever-important logos.
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
You say less exclusive... I say more support.
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
No, it makes it lighter on my wallet. I don't care how many other people have it as long as I do.
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To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't agree.
[13 yr old comment]If you want to feel special, maybe get it from the TMo store or import it. [/13 yr old comment]
The price is being subsidized. Just making it easier to reach more people. This way el goog can make even more money with mobile ad revenue.
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You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
If having exclusivity means paying $1000 dollars, I'll take a less exclusive phone any day for $350
You think $500+ phones are exclusive? You'll find more Note 2s and iPhones than N4.
That said, the more the N4s out there, the more accessories there will be for it. And thats always a good thing.
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How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
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This. I only know one girl outside of XDA that even knows what the Nexus line is.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
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Perhaps. Google may keep production low for the first wave after watching previous launches. There seems to be a lot of uncertainty about the popularity of this phone due to the lack of LTE, expandable storage, and maybe inadequate battery. Those of us looking to buy the phone can only hope that it is either not that popular or that Google didn't lower production.
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When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
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You know what I got from reading this? That you need to feel special/better than your friends. That's no reason to jack up the price of a phone.
Tell you what, I'll buy mine, then sell it to you for $859.99, that'll really blow your colleagues out of the water! Or how about avoiding the faux pas of bragging about how much money you spent on a cell phone. Hell, if anything I'll be showing my friends this phone and telling them how cheap it was. Look at this thing, it's awesome, and cost half the price of your NoteII!
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Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't see anything wrong of a 13 year old can save up and purchase this device, it allows a younger audience to own a modern smartphone without the hefty price tag. Exclusivity to one type of group (in this case being age) isn't somthing company's want for their products, and if they lure in the younger users with the low price tag, that means more marketshare for them. The nexus 4 isn't a fashion item like more popular phones such as the iPhone, or even the galaxy s3, it's made for contract free or value plan customers who want a fast phone for a reasonable price.
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
Who cares? Does it matter if the phone is not as "exclusive" as you would like?
It's an amazing phone at a great price, it will further push the Android ecosystem.
If you want exclusive, stick with foreign imports of obscure devices.
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Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
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I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
bfspider said:
I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
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XD I just did few minutes ago.
I was thinking we could have a thread where people posted if they had accidentally ordered an extra Nexus 4 8gb, 16gb, or case and could let people know they were interested in passing it along to some of us less fortunate forum goers for a reasonable price.
I was fortunate enough to get an 8gb nexus 4, but alas no bumper case, so if anyone accidentally ordered an extra please PM me and I'll gladly paypal $25 for it.
2 extra 8gb Nexus 4
I was trying for 2 of the 8GB Nexus 4. Amidst the server error mess, I think my attempts at ordering were processed twice so I might be getting a total of 4.
I'd be willing to keep the last two and sell them here. PM me with offers.
If anybody has a spare 16GB in Germany, deel free to contact me
Didn't manage to get one
Anyone have an extra 16GB one in the US?
Help out a tech savvy hobo with one leg and no head from Netherlands, with a spare 16gb N4. Pretteh please!?
I wish i could get one, i hope the gone a come back real soon.
it's look like we become Fanboy's, waiting outside the store to get a new phone.
i got an 8g n4 but i think i'd like to trade for a 16 gb n4, let me know if anyone is interested, only local meet up in toronto
Yeah, would be awesome if somebody from the EU had an extra one... I'm from Holland.
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Yeah, would be awesome if somebody from the EU had an extra one... I'm from Holland.
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Ha, beat you to it! ';]
Mine didn't clear the second time insufficent funds. Also people can call Google and cancel the second order.
The service to process orders was slow with so many users ordering at the same time.
Think of it like black friday. Everyone is rushing to order and stopped the system. We ran right over each other. Just keep ordering the system is
got stampeded by use greedy Americans. Google wasn't ready for this.
They didn't know how many people have been wanting out of there contracts. This is just reflecting how us Americans feel about contracts and over priced cell phone bills.
Why pay 120 a month for a cell phone bill. I can just use Simple mobile or Straight Talk and pay 55 buck for unlimited internet and phone calls.
Google is going to learn how bad people want out of there contracts.
I have a 8gb available.
I have an extra 16gb
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Anyone have an extra 16GB one in the US?
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I accidentally ordered an extra 16gb if you're looking for one
I have an extra 16GB coming in the US
I have an extra 8gb.. I already filed to cancel it but haven't received an email yet
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I tried to cancel right after I got the order emails. Got nothing about the cancel. Tried again later and said I can't cancel now. I called and they said that the cancel window is 1 hour. After that the only option is to refuse the shipment.
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In the U.S with an extra 16GB. pm me offers.
Buying/selling/trading is no longer allowed anywhere on XDA. Sorry.
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One of those could have been mine. Instead, some f&$king a#$%ole decided they would turn a quick buck and resell it on ebay/craigslist for more. So many people weren't able to get in on this because the first wave of devices sold out so quickly. Now they're forced to either wait, or pay a premium. Am I the only one that finds that infuriating?
To top it off, T-mobile is selling the phone claiming that the MSRP is $499. How is the MSRP $499 when google sells it for $350?!
I'm unbelievably frustrated today!
I wouldn't buy one from there on principle. Also if it has any faults your screwed.
Welcome to capitalism. I bet you don't get mad when you get your paycheck.
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Welcome to capitalism. I bet you don't get mad when you get your paycheck.
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Selling products for more than they're worth when they're in short supply is called gouging, not capitalism.
I hope someone Buys It, tell eBay seller sent you rocks, send rocks to seller, get refund, keep free nexus 4
Then you'll never see them do this again
To me this was the one thing Google should have prevented, at least initially. No one should have been able to order more than 1 or 2 in the 1st wave. I know they did this when the GN came out....was like a limit of 5 per person I think. There certainly shouldnt have been anyone allowed to purchase 200+ on initial launch.
It didn't seem like Google even had 200 in stock
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Buy It, tell eBay seller sent you rocks, send rocks to seller, get refund, keep free nexus 4
Then you'll never see them do this again
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Hahahahahahahahahaha! Maybe not keep it for free...I'd give them their $350...minus the cost of shipping of course.
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To me this was the one thing Google should have prevented, at least initially. No one should have been able to order more than 1 or 2 in the 1st wave. I know they did this when the GN came out....was like a limit of 5 per person I think. There certainly shouldnt have been anyone allowed to purchase 200+ on initial launch.
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I agree. I don't believe anyone could have ordered 200...but it's possible I suppose. All I wanted was one. It's just frustrating seeing so many for sale at such a huge premium on ebay...it's just greedy.
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Buy It, tell eBay seller sent you rocks, send rocks to seller, get refund, keep free nexus 4
Then you'll never see them do this again
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Wow look at this genius here promoting fraud.
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One of those could have been mine. Instead, some f&$king a#$%ole decided they would turn a quick buck and resell it on ebay/craigslist for more. So many people weren't able to get in on this because the first wave of devices sold out so quickly. Now they're forced to either wait, or pay a premium. Am I the only one that finds that infuriating?
To top it off, T-mobile is selling the phone claiming that the MSRP is $499. How is the MSRP $499 when google sells it for $350?!
I'm unbelievably frustrated today!
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It is called making money welcome to reality mate
T-mo is selling it at MSRP because that's the device cost from LG
Google is subsidizing it on the Play Store.
People do that all the time at launches, Google mistake was allowing more than one device to be bought per person. Others are selling it because the mess that happened and they ordered more than one by accident.
After eBay fees etc Dont think they will make much 16 gig is like 400 after taxes shipping even if they sell it for 500 they'll make 50 bucks? Meh
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The guy deserves to be ripped off for price gouging Nigga. Sh*t happens. Welcome to reality.
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Don't think i'll be lining the pockets of some greedy fat price gouger on ebay, i'll wait for the next batch on google store.
lazarat said:
It is called making money welcome to reality nigga
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Are you for real with this? Do you honestly think people talk like this in real life? Your mother should be ashamed.
InGeNeTiCs said:
One of those could have been mine. Instead, some f&$king a#$%ole decided they would turn a quick buck and resell it on ebay/craigslist for more. So many people weren't able to get in on this because the first wave of devices sold out so quickly. Now they're forced to either wait, or pay a premium. Am I the only one that finds that infuriating?
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One of them is mine. I hope you buy it.
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Wow look at this genius here promoting fraud.
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It is called making money welcome to reality nigga
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Im not promoting fraud, not anymore than people that but out all the stocks to sell above cost, and I'm betting you're one of them
Not that much
200 isn't that much considering how many were sold to legitimate users. I think google would have done better with a strict limit of 2 per order but they went with a higher number.
As an aside I remember when the ps3 came out and resellers got pwnd because there were plenty of supplies.
One of them has 24 bids at $605! Damn!
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One of those could have been mine. Instead, some f&$king a#$%ole decided they would turn a quick buck and resell it on ebay/craigslist for more. So many people weren't able to get in on this because the first wave of devices sold out so quickly. Now they're forced to either wait, or pay a premium. Am I the only one that finds that infuriating?
To top it off, T-mobile is selling the phone claiming that the MSRP is $499. How is the MSRP $499 when google sells it for $350?!
I'm unbelievably frustrated today!
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Q.Q more please. Grow up. It's just a phone. Quit your whining.
Just wait a few weeks, your life is not going to somehow be magically worse off just because you didn't get in on the first wave.
$499 MSRP? $499 Is T-Mobile insane? Google sells them for $349. T-Mobile adds bloatware for $150.
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Are you for real with this? Do you honestly think people talk like this in real life? Your mother should be ashamed.
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You obviously never been to our side of town.
Dear all
I know that what you are going through is unacceptable and we are all working through the nights and weekends to resolve this issue. Supplies from the manufacturer are scarce and erratic, and our communication has been flawed. I can offer an unreserved apology for our service and communication failures in this process.
For those that originally received a 3-5 days shipping estimate, your orders are now in process for fulfillment. You can expect an email notification early this week which will include tracking information. Although you will be initially charged in full, you will receive a credit for the shipping charge soon after.
For others that received pre-Christmas shipping estimates, we anticipate processing your orders for fulfillment this week.
I realise that the people who ordered the Nexus 4 so early are among our most committed and loyal users and we are doing all we can to put things right.
Sorry again.
Dan
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Head of Google UK (Dan Cobley) finally offers some insight and an apology on this mess of a launch.
I apologize if this has already been posted, I couldn't find anything.
Full Article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/17/nexus-4-delays-apology-blame
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Head of Google UK (Dan Cobley) finally offers some insight and an apology on this mess of a launch.
I apologize if this has already been posted, I couldn't find anything.
Full Article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/17/nexus-4-delays-apology-blame
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
If you want to look at a product launch that REALLY failed, you only have to look at the Xbox360, 60% failure rate after 3 years on the market..... Thats a REAL botched product launch...
www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2012
And the background behind the problems...
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/x...istory-of-microsofts-video-game-console-woes/
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
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granted, some people are drama queens, but there are many people who still haven't received their order from Nov 13, and don't forget all the backordered folks from the initial release. Still there's some 1-2 weekers who have not received shipping emails. There's also the issue of ppl not receiving their devices in proportion to their order time. Furthermore, he's also apologizing about their lack of communication, which was another issue.
Also, providing an example of a greater failure doesn't justify this one haha.
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
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Google originally quoted 3-5 day shipping to those of us who ordered on Nov 13. Then we got a backorder email the next day that changed the estimate to 3 weeks. I got my phone yesterday. That's right, a day shy of 5 weeks. Some Nov 13 orders have yet to be filled. They have NOT been filling the orders in the order that they were made, nor have they kept up with demand. This has been a shameful fiasco. Why do you think the shippong and orders thread has almost 40,000 posts?
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WHAT???!!! AN APOLOGY FOR LATE SHIPPING???!!! WHO CARES! FK HIM AND HIS APOLOGY!!!!
Where's an apology for USB/OTG and all the hardware issues??? Who needs an apology, recall this phone and start over again. They need to be hit where it hurts, in the wallet. Apologies don't hurt them financially. Fk that.
A lot of people got backordered, and even at this moment, the phone is completely sold out. There aren't really people being drama queens factoring in that the Google website is pretty much the only place to get the phone (unless you want to pay 200 dollars more), and when other products are sold out, there are lots of other places that might be supplied. LG came in with a really small supply of Nexus 4's, and it's hurt us in the end. Then again, I think the problem is also that, even now, I don't think they're that incredibly concerned since they're not looking to profit off the phone majorly as they are just trying to introduce the phone into the market as a stepping stone for other companies. If they don't sell some large number like 2 million phones, they are more than happy and I don't think that's what their intentions were in the first place. Unfortunately, this ends up hurting a lot of people who actually want the phone, or who have it and want accessories and such.
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A lot of people got backordered, and even at this moment, the phone is completely sold out. There aren't really people being drama queens factoring in that the Google website is pretty much the only place to get the phone (unless you want to pay 200 dollars more), and when other products are sold out, there are lots of other places that might be supplied. LG came in with a really small supply of Nexus 4's, and it's hurt us in the end. Then again, I think the problem is also that, even now, I don't think they're that incredibly concerned since they're not looking to profit off the phone majorly as they are just trying to introduce the phone into the market as a stepping stone for other companies. If they don't sell some large number like 2 million phones, they are more than happy and I don't think that's what their intentions were in the first place. Unfortunately, this ends up hurting a lot of people who actually want the phone, or who have it and want accessories and such.
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I wonder if/when google will bring the nexus line to motorola if we'll see an actual big player rise in the smartphone world. I imagine if google put in an actual real solitary effort into the nexus line (instead of these half assed cooperative efforts) and advertised its product well, we would see a legitimate competitor in the smartphone market. There is some money to be made with the rise of android in the past year. I hope google will consider augmenting its objectives for the nexus line in the near future.
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
If you want to look at a product launch that REALLY failed, you only have to look at the Xbox360, 60% failure rate after 3 years on the market..... Thats a REAL botched product launch...
www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2012
And the background behind the problems...
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/x...istory-of-microsofts-video-game-console-woes/
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What mess? Lol too funny
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Google originally quoted 3-5 day shipping to those of us who ordered on Nov 13. Then we got a backorder email the next day that changed the estimate to 3 weeks. I got my phone yesterday. That's right, a day shy of 5 weeks. Some Nov 13 orders have yet to be filled. They have NOT been filling the orders in the order that they were made, nor have they kept up with demand. This has been a shameful fiasco. Why do you think the shippong and orders thread has almost 40,000 posts?
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Because people like posting =)
Not to mention people ordering later than others but still get their phones shipped sooner...
The only mistake Google made with this phone was selling it so cheap so millions of people wanted to buy it instead of getting it.on contract like normal phone.
The only mistake???
Pfft.
Old news ...we have enough news Google screwed up in every aspect of selling the N4, from the launch time announcement to the ordering to the shipping to the communication to the rma's.
you name and it they screwed up big time everywhere they were involved in.
I find it hard to believe how cynical everyone is. I had a few issues as well with Google, but I called and talked through it all. I know some of the customer service representatives are a little clueless, but those who have't got their device yet, probably could have done something about it. Also, Google is new to this game, you can't expect everything to be perfect their first try.
And yes I know they've sold devices before, I have purchased almost all of them, but I don't believe they have ever had such a high demand.
Just relax and enjoy the holidays.
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Old news ...we have enough news Google screwed up in every aspect of selling the N4, from the launch time announcement to the ordering to the shipping to the communication to the rma's.
you name and it they screwed up big time everywhere they were involved in.
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Ermmm... what's with that announcement? Did not correctly estimate sandy schedule?
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The only mistake Google made with this phone was selling it so cheap so millions of people wanted to buy it instead of getting it.on contract like normal phone.
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Yes, because it would have been sooo much better if they sold it for £500+, just like the iPaidTooMuchForThisPhone.
When you stay awake to be first to order a phone that takes 2 weeks more than it should and there is still no bumper for sale, that is failure. If i wanted to pre order i would have in September.
I do not see LG getting another Nexus after this.
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When you stay awake to be first to order a phone that takes 2 weeks more than it should and there is still no bumper for sale, that is failure. If i wanted to pre order i would have in September.
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The preorders would run out as fast as orders, so you still won't be happy. Preorders don't magically speed up production.
No company on this earth has an infinite supply chain flexibility. Or they are grossly mismanaged. I don't see how it is a failure.
I do not see LG getting another Nexus after this.
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Dunno, I suppose LG probably won't even bid for another nexus. And the next OEM will be Compal, ZTE, Huawei or something.
Or even Motorola, like "dear OEMs, if you don't elect supplying us with a new platform, Motorola will. This is not a threat, we repeat, this is not a threat!"
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Yes, because it would have been sooo much better if they sold it for £500+, just like the iPaidTooMuchForThisPhone.
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There woudn't be any supply problems, sleepless nights and anxiety So el goog wouldn't fail and everyone would be happy
I'm not complaining because all the bugs in the initial release could be potentially sorted out when Google makes new devices. Just waiting past what your promised is not enjoyable especially when you get a definite ETA.
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I'm not complaining because all the bugs in the initial release could be potentially sorted out when Google makes new devices. Just waiting past what your promised is not enjoyable especially when you get a definite ETA.
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What bugs are these that require new devices?
Anyone else peeved about this? Our reward for pre-ordering...paying $150 more than people who just waited.
Agreed
I vaguely remember samsung did this once a few years back, to many customer's backlash. The phone hasn't even been out a month and they are discounting it almost 25%. That's somewhat a slap in the face to us faithful LG owners. I've owned every g series phone since optimus G, so I know what i'm getting into in terms of residual value, but this is a bit beyond good practice.
This really sucks I just say yesterday where it said $500.00 and free google home. I'm not going to pre-order again I'll just wait and maybe I'll buy something else because $150.00 is a really big difference.
yes,,to quick...call and voice your displeasure even it they cant do anything...it lowers consumer confidence....i mean why would any ever preorder or buy within the first couple of day again.
I decided to talk to T-Mobile about this situation and all I got was sorry but I can't help you Lg prices always come down quickly and I stated not a month later maybe a year. Not worth discussing with them I even told them maybe I need to find another carrier where I can get better deal. All I got out of that is I understand don't want to loose you but it is up to you. No way that I like the answers I got so if I do stay with T-Mobile I will never pre-order another phone from them.
Thats happened to me a few times actually on a few different devices.
I was never upset about it though because i got all the devices launch day and didnt have to wait a month.
$150 is worth getting my hands on day one to me...no problem with it at all.think of it as a premium for getting things first lol.
Now adding in extra giveaways is a different story, people shouldnt be getting extras when they already got a discount on the device.
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Annoyed, yes. But... It's the price you pay for early adopters. There should be exclusive benefits to pre-ordering because otherwise I agree, why pre-order?
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I decided to talk to T-Mobile about this situation and all I got was sorry but I can't help you Lg prices always come down quickly and I stated not a month later maybe a year. Not worth discussing with them I even told them maybe I need to find another carrier where I can get better deal. All I got out of that is I understand don't want to loose you but it is up to you. No way that I like the answers I got so if I do stay with T-Mobile I will never pre-order another phone from them.
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This is not a carrier thing. Tmobile is not to blame for the price drop.
Your right it is not a carrier thing but I have bought things in stores and within a certain period of time they dropped the price and I went back when I saw it and the store gave me the difference in cash so it can be done. Also I have gotten credits from carriers Also stores do price matches of different stores so there is a way to do this. I can't do anything about it as I stated before and will stick by it I will not pre-order again which is my choice anyone else can do what ever they want to.
Myself and others got the $150 back. I had to return and repurchase a G6 to get the price while others have received $150 bill credit. Call and speak to retentions until you get someone to credit the $150.
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Your right it is not a carrier thing but I have bought things in stores and within a certain period of time they dropped the price and I went back when I saw it and the store gave me the difference in cash so it can be done. Also I have gotten credits from carriers Also stores do price matches of different stores so there is a way to do this. I can't do anything about it as I stated before and will stick by it I will not pre-order again which is my choice anyone else can do what ever they want to.
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No tmobile does price matches, they would work with you and rare instances kowtow if the customer was having a baby fit
Picked one up yesterday. Had a G6 side by side with the S8 and S8+. Had the bucks to buy either, but just couldn't see the extra value in the S8+ that would make it a must have thing. I'm not much into the curvy sides. Hope you all get the 150 back.
Cheers,
Steven.RN
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Myself and others got the $150 back. I had to return and repurchase a G6 to get the price while others have received $150 bill credit. Call and speak to retentions until you get someone to credit the $150.
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How long did you have your phone when you returned it and re-purchased?
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How long did you have your phone when you returned it and re-purchased?
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Mine was only a week. Others were within a month.
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Thanks for info very good to know.
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SovPanda said:
No tmobile does price matches, they would work with you and rare instances kowtow if the customer was having a baby fit
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Just to let you know I don't do baby fits. I am a senior citizen who doesn't like losing money.
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Thanks for info very good to know.
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Just to let you know I don't do baby fits. I am a senior citizen who doesn't like losing money.
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You are always going to lose money on a phone, they lose value quickly. You blaming tmobile was wrong, they don't do price matches but because they value customers they will do things out of norm to help you
I really wish you would read my posts I didn't blame t-mobile for this situation SovPanda and I know about loosing money everything you buy depreciates quickly. You keep insulting me about what you think I'm saying please read my posts instead of jumping to conclusions. If you read some of the posts you will others have gotten bill credits of $150.00 and that is what I'm trying to do too.
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I really wish you would read my posts I didn't blame t-mobile for this situation SovPanda and I know about loosing money everything you buy depreciates quickly. You keep insulting me about what you think I'm saying please read my posts instead of jumping to conclusions. If you read some of the posts you will others have gotten bill credits of $150.00 and that is what I'm trying to do too.
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I'm an old coot too, fixin' to turn 64... If you're within the 14 day return period, just go tell them what you want. They'll do it. Guys like you and me walk and and say "here's what it is and let's get this done" and it usually happens, especially if you're within reason, and you are. I'm sure SovPanda is just trying to be helpful, really. Things change, how folk address one another, what he said would just roll off an X'ers or Millennials back like "cool, I get it".
Walking in when a promo runs 6 months later and trying the same thing probably wouldn't fly. Or it might, who knows.
I just lucked out that the price dropped the day I considered it- and boy, am I glad I didn't get the S8+. $350 more for gimmicks that really have no impact in real life, in my view.
Cheers!
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I'm an old coot too, fixin' to turn 64... If you're within the 14 day return period, just go tell them what you want. They'll do it. Guys like you and me walk and and say "here's what it is and let's get this done" and it usually happens, especially if you're within reason, and you are. I'm sure SovPanda is just trying to be helpful, really. Things change, how folk address one another, what he said would just roll off an X'ers or Millennials back like "cool, I get it".
Walking in when a promo runs 6 months later and trying the same thing probably wouldn't fly. Or it might, who knows.
I just lucked out that the price dropped the day I considered it- and boy, am I glad I didn't get the S8+. $350 more for gimmicks that really have no impact in real life, in my view.
Cheers!
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Whining and complaining because you didn't get what you think you deserve while demanding someone else give it to you? That sounds nothing like a millennial...
If you were willing to pay its original price, and were happy with it, are you suddenly no longer happy with it now that it's $150 cheaper?
I get it, paying one price and finding out it's cheaper and day later or what not sucks. I certainly would like the extra $150. Next time I can wait, attempt to anticipate when something is going to drop and hopefully that'll work out. If not, such is life. Certainly don't feel screwed over as I'm happy with the device.
Still amazes me how much cell phones cost though. Computers and technology usually get cheaper, but it seems phones just get more and more expensive. Crazy.
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Whining and complaining because you didn't get what you think you deserve while demanding someone else give it to you? That sounds nothing like a millennial...
If you were willing to pay its original price, and were happy with it, are you suddenly no longer happy with it now that it's $150 cheaper?
I get it, paying one price and finding out it's cheaper and day later or what not sucks. I certainly would like the extra $150. Next time I can wait, attempt to anticipate when something is going to drop and hopefully that'll work out. If not, such is life. Certainly don't feel screwed over as I'm happy with the device.
Still amazes me how much cell phones cost though. Computers and technology usually get cheaper, but it seems phones just get more and more expensive. Crazy.
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Naw, I didn't intend a slight to a millennials or xers or anyone else; I was just noting that certain ways of addressing issues, turns of phrasing, etc., are cross-generationally different, the way they play out in our heads. Actually, we mostly have a common understanding.
It's a communication thing when what you say isn't always what they hear- and vice versa. Never did think of millennials as whiners, etc. It's just easy to misinterpret each other, I think- and, btw, I didn't take any offense
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PS: Yep, you'd think things would get cheaper. Sometimes they do for a bit, but generally speaking, things always go up. Way of the world.
Wow I can't believe that this got so out of hand. I'm glad I don't have to deal with this on a daily basis because there is way to many differences between generations.