OTG w/ charging - Galaxy Note II Accessories

like most MHL cables that include the charging port (where you just plug in from wall), is there anything like this for OTG??
tried finding and searching but nothing.....

If you're looking for power going to the USB device, then you can use this.
If you want to charge your Note while using the OTG feature, then I've not yet come across anything like that.

Just wondering if it is possible to charge the Note 2 while using the OTG yet? I'm in my car all the time and use an external SD card. My 64gig internal card is already full.

cajunflavoredbob said:
If you're looking for power going to the USB device, then you can use this.
If you want to charge your Note while using the OTG feature, then I've not yet come across anything like that.
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How about a scenario where I have External Battery charger and OTG adapter with usb stick. I want to watch the movie on usb stick while also have External battery connected charging the phone. I guess it's the same problem as not being able to charge up phone from any external source while using another device connected to OTG?

vectron said:
How about a scenario where I have External Battery charger and OTG adapter with usb stick. I want to watch the movie on usb stick while also have External battery connected charging the phone. I guess it's the same problem as not being able to charge up phone from any external source while using another device connected to OTG?
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You could make your own micro USB OTG cable. I still haven't seen one for sale anywhere.

cajunflavoredbob said:
You could make your own micro USB OTG cable. I still haven't seen one for sale anywhere.
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Oh, I don't have issues with OTG cables. I have adapter and cables, and modified cables before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107985
I just want to figure out how I can watch movie from usb-stick while charging my phone at the same time. There seems to be no solution for that yet? Or are you suggesting there is a way to make a custom cable to do that? I think once you attach OTG cable to connect a peripheral device, you turn Note 2 into host and it will not accept charging from micro-usb port. No way around it

vectron said:
Oh, I don't have issues with OTG cables. I have adapter and cables, and modified cables before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107985
I just want to figure out how I can watch movie from usb-stick while charging my phone at the same time. There seems to be no solution for that yet? Or are you suggesting there is a way to make a custom cable to do that? I think once you attach OTG cable to connect a peripheral device, you turn Note 2 into host and it will not accept charging from micro-usb port. No way around it
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Oh, I understand what you mean now. In that case, you are correct. You cannot charge your phone and use an external thumb drive at the same time through the usb port. When you plug in an external drive, your phone switches the USB power cables to send the juice instead of receive it.
The only ways I know around that are to use a wireless charge stand or the desk dock.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Oh, I understand what you mean now. In that case, you are correct. You cannot charge your phone and use an external thumb drive at the same time through the usb port. When you plug in an external drive, your phone switches the USB power cables to send the juice instead of receive it.
The only ways I know around that are to use a wireless charge stand or the desk dock.
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Isn't this exactly what sammys smartdock does? Charge and otg simultaneously?

farfromovin said:
Isn't this exactly what sammys smartdock does? Charge and otg simultaneously?
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Yep. Not possible with just a cable. It needs a microprocessor to regulate the current in and out. Devices plugged into the dock are powered by the dock's power, not the phone's.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Yep. Not possible with just a cable. It needs a microprocessor to regulate the current in and out. Devices plugged into the dock are powered by the dock's power, not the phone's.
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I hear what your saying, but looking at threads in the S3 section like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953061 got me thinking... I'm just trying to make an audio cable for my car that charges and has 3.5mm out to my radio. And I need it to work with every 4.1.X kernel and above, especially stock.

farfromovin said:
I hear what your saying, but looking at threads in the S3 section like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953061 got me thinking... I'm just trying to make an audio cable for my car that charges and has 3.5mm out to my radio. And I need it to work with every 4.1.X kernel and above, especially stock.
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If you get a pinout for the s3, might be able to modify a cable to do both.

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Split the micro USB for charging and USB OTG

Hello,
I want to do some stuff at the same time with my phone.
Watching a movie from an usb stick while charging the phone.
So, I've bought this HDMI converter
When you plug this into the phone you can plug in your charger or USB OTG adapter in the usb port on the HDMI converter.
But i can't find any splitter cable on the internet or ebay so i can charge my phone and connect my usb stick at the same time.
I wonder if this is even possible. It is possible to charge the phone when HDMI converter is connected and it is also possible to connect my USB stick to the HDMI converter.
Anyone ever tried this or has found a simple micro usb splitter cable or normal usb splitter cable?
You can't connect a normal USB Hub because i can't send power back to my phone through the hub.
Thanks :good:
Sorry I can't help with your splitter request.
However I'd be really interested in knowing if those two items work fine with the Note 2?
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so the i know it isnt possible with the 5 pin mhl adapter (the old one thats not compatible with this phone)
I wonder if the 11pn version does allow this. I know the cables dont exist for what you are looking to do, there is a galaxy note smart dock 2 that seems to allow hdmi and 3 usb ports, if they allow it at the same time then it would be at least possible.
it must be. did you try the smart dock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953061&page=2
I've ordered one and i will see how it will perform. smart dock is nice but pricey i'd like one for home and work!
Bought this one http://goo.gl/6OiGx and as it is listed compatible with the NOte 2 and the Galaxy S3 i was hoping it would work with the Note 2 as well - nope: only power OR OTG, not both.
cyberfux said:
Bought this one http://goo.gl/6OiGx and as it is listed compatible with the NOte 2 and the Galaxy S3 i was hoping it would work with the Note 2 as well - nope: only power OR OTG, not both.
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Old thread... at least on my GS3 I have found that the ability to charge and use USB OTG at the same time is kernal specific. Anyone ever find one that works on Note 2?

you can connect Note 2 with USB speakers with this

http://www.amazon.com/PPA-Intl-SAMS...&qid=1362451080&sr=8-7&keywords=ppa+int'l+usb
Confirmed working with Note 2 with a catch, you need to power micro USB jack to make it work (and you can't charge Note 2 in USB host mode).
Tested with Logitech USB speakers and it works.
Why don't just buy a Bluetooth adapter for speakers and listen wirelessly?
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F8Z492TTP-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0047T79VS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362497880&sr=8-2&keywords=bluetooth+adapter+for+stereo
sweetboy02125 said:
Why don't just buy a Bluetooth adapter for speakers and listen wirelessly?
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F8Z492TTP-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0047T79VS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362497880&sr=8-2&keywords=bluetooth+adapter+for+stereo
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This is an experiment, but you can connect USB audio adapter to get SPDIF audio out through this way.
OTG cable with a charging port might be a better option, thats quite a large thing hanging off the end of you phone so it might be prone to knocks which will stress your usb port.
Theres another thread in this section title OTG with charging, in that thread this cable looks promising http://www.ebay.com/itm/261170130579
edit: You either need a kernel mod or a resistor between pins 4&5 to get otg charging working, a dead short wont work unless the kernel has been modified. My OTG cable arrived this morning. even wireless charging wont work. I dont really need this feature, only planning to use otg intermittently so I am not going to fix my cable.

USB Port

Does the USB port have any other function other than power?
Don't think so, only power AFAIK.
I plugged it into my computer and even tried pressing and pressing/holding the button on the Chromecast but my computer didn't indicate any hardware plugged in.
I wonder if the data pins are even wired to anything internally.
UPDATE: The USB cable that comes with it may not work for data transfer, tried it with my phone and it didn't work. So I tried a normal microUSB cable but still nothing.
spunker88 said:
I plugged it into my computer and even tried pressing and pressing/holding the button on the Chromecast but my computer didn't indicate any hardware plugged in.
I wonder if the data pins are even wired to anything internally.
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If we could plug a mouse or keyboard into it would be great!!
comatose1978 said:
If we could plug a mouse or keyboard into it would be great!!
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It has bluetooth... so in theory that could be a simple alternative... we just need to figure out how to access hidden menus.
comatose1978 said:
If we could plug a mouse or keyboard into it would be great!!
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I tried this with a self powered USB OTG cable, just to see if the Chromecast would blink, bing, or do anything to show recognition, no dice. Also tried booting with a USB drive in, no difference.
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Examining board
Based on examining the photos of the motherboard on ifixit.com...
Component EM1 appears to be a USB Common Mode Choke. That goes on the D+/D- pair which you can see routed from the USB port, so it wouldn't be present if there wasn't some use for data communication over the USB port. (Cost sensitive equipment.) The flip side of the PCBA shows TP1-TP20 (Where TP19 and TP20 appear to be GND). My guess is in that mix you have a JTAG port for programming/testing the unit initially with a pogo pin rig (evidenced by the dimples observed in each of those locations), and there might be more high/low GPIO pins where one might allow the unit to enter its USB data mode.
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I tried this with a self powered USB OTG cable, just to see if the Chromecast would blink, bing, or do anything to show recognition, no dice. Also tried booting with a USB drive in, no difference.
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Is there any special kind of powered otg cable to work with this? I looked on Amazon but not sure. I want to grab one incase they make any progress on rooting this.
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mustang_52 said:
Is there any special kind of powered otg cable to work with this? I looked on Amazon but not sure. I want to grab one incase they make any progress on rooting this.
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Looks like its already been rooted. With what looks like a dual usb otg. They don't go deep into what specific cable but, I would guess it is a generic dual usb one off ebay, or amazon, heres a quick one i pulled from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-P...8&qid=1375052489&sr=8-3&keywords=Dual+Usb+otg
But if you read into it, they say you can root, but unless your a developer you probably wont get any benefit of rooting....yet, if at all.
Obtaining root Link: http://blog.gtvhacker.com/2013/chromecast-exploiting-the-newest-device-by-google/
OneAn9ryN00b said:
Looks like its already been rooted. With what looks like a dual usb otg. They don't go deep into what specific cable but, I would guess it is a generic dual usb one off ebay, or amazon, heres a quick one i pulled from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-P...8&qid=1375052489&sr=8-3&keywords=Dual+Usb+otg
But if you read into it, they say you can root, but unless your a developer you probably wont get any benefit of rooting....yet, if at all.
Obtaining root Link: http://blog.gtvhacker.com/2013/chromecast-exploiting-the-newest-device-by-google/
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Please correct me if Im wrong, but the cable you linked only charges the thumbdrive/keyboard/mice/etc NOT the Chromecast so how would one root it since it does need power from usb plug? I've been searching for correct cable and cant find it; link to correct cable would be greatly appreciated!!!
This cable wouldnt work, right? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Usb-type-A-..._USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item4857e3608e
eurominican said:
Please correct me if Im wrong, but the cable you linked only charges the thumbdrive/keyboard/mice/etc NOT the Chromecast so how would one root it since it does need power from usb plug? I've been searching for correct cable and cant find it; link to correct cable would be greatly appreciated!!!
This cable wouldnt work, right? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Usb-type-A-..._USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item4857e3608e
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I own that cable from Amazon and it should work. It brings in +5v from a charger connected to the female microUSB port and then splits it to the female full size USB port and the the male microUSB port so both the USB host device and the USB peripheral device are getting power.
spunker88 said:
I own that cable from Amazon and it should work. It brings in +5v from a charger connected to the female microUSB port and then splits it to the female full size USB port and the the male microUSB port so both the USB host device and the USB peripheral device are getting power.
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I ordered this cable http://r.ebay.com/QgwBIW Will report back if it works when I get it.
eurominican said:
Please correct me if Im wrong, but the cable you linked only charges the thumbdrive/keyboard/mice/etc NOT the Chromecast so how would one root it since it does need power from usb plug? I've been searching for correct cable and cant find it; link to correct cable would be greatly appreciated!!!
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I also bought that powered OTG cable off Amazon and it will power the Chromecast as well as provide the means to flash the Chromecast via a USB thumbdrive. When you apply power to the Chromecast, it automatically flashed the bin from the USB drive. There was no interaction required (or even possible). Of course this was on the original firmware - if your Chromecast updated itself, you have lost the ability to root the device at this time.
Clearly the Chromecast does sense the USB drive and pulls data from it during the initial boot sequence. However I'm not sure if it would ever work for other devices such as keyboards or storage devices, etc.
I'm not sure why anyone would want to hook those types of devices up to the Chromecast however. Once you have root, you can telnet into the device, so adding a keyboard doesn't seem that important. The whole idea of the device is that you send it media from other devices and control it via that other device. Adding storage for example doesn't seem important since it can pull media off the network already (ie a NAS or another computer).
Anyway. That has been my experience with it so far. It's a long winded answer to more than just your question about the OTG plug.
I would personally love the ability to send audio out without having an hdmi TV be on through the usb somehow...
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i have install Avatar 7.0 to my Samsung SGH-i997 from "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174227". it's look cool.
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charging

I am thinking of getting this tab to replace my acer a510.
Just wondering i think i read you can only charge using acer special cable??
Does this tablet have a usb/micro usb that can trickle charge while screen is off/asleep
example my a510 can trickle charge slowly if i hook up a usb to it, but only when the screen is off.
Acer use their own special usb plug to charge normally.
I want to use this for long traveling etc and only want to use a micro or usb from the car to get some juice into it.
I don't know. On the TF700 it was possible but on the TF701 I don't know but also didn't try it.
But I think when connecting the charging cable only to the tablet it will charge with any 5V usb charger but just very slow.
Page 17 of the manual.
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF701T/e8803_tf701t_em_v2_for_web_only.pdf
You need the special cable to charge, but you can use it to trickle charge from a PC or (presumably) a car USB charger with the screen off. Fast charging requires using the special cable with the Asus mains adapter.
pelago said:
Fast charging requires using the special cable with the Asus mains adapter.
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That is because the AC plug of the TF701 charges either with 15V/1,2Amps or 5V/2Amps, while a normal USB 2.0 hub is limited to 0,5Amps (USB 3.0 to 0,8Amps). If you have a vehicle charger with USB slot the charging speed depends on the max. current it can supply .
And also: there is no micro usb slot on the tablet or the dock.
btw: What Acer did really sucks,because they just switched + with Data+ and GND with DATA-GND from the USB pinning, so you _need_ the original Acer charging cable. (My brother has the A511,where i already repaired the cable once due to lead fracture)
Lamensis said:
That is because the AC plug of the TF701 charges either with 15V/1,2Amps or 5V/2Amps, while a normal USB 2.0 hub is limited to 0,5Amps (USB 3.0 to 0,8Amps). If you have a vehicle charger with USB slot the charging speed depends on the max. current it can supply .
And also: there is no micro usb slot on the tablet or the dock.
btw: What Acer did really sucks,because they just switched + with Data+ and GND with DATA-GND from the USB pinning, so you _need_ the original Acer charging cable. (My brother has the A511,where i already repaired the cable once due to lead fracture)
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thanks everyone.
does anyone know whay the 64gb seems unavailable in japan? is this the same in other countries?
malos1984 said:
thanks everyone.
does anyone know whay the 64gb seems unavailable in japan? is this the same in other countries?
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Dont know why, but on amazon.de and amazon.com there is also no 64GB Version available.
Lamensis said:
Dont know why, but on amazon.de and amazon.com there is also no 64GB Version available.
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In Holland it is not even in their program.

OTG and charging

Does anyone know of a way to have OTG and charging at the same time? I know you can use wireless charging and otg at the same time, I'd like to know if it can all be done through usb.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-P...1453677269&sr=8-1&keywords=otg+charging+cable
I have that exact cable. It only Powers the peripheral device. From what I can gather it's a software thing with the gs6, but I have such a small understanding of this kind of stuff.
It should be possible, I believe they had a docking station with a USB port that worked the way you're thinking
se1000 said:
It should be possible, I believe they had a docking station with a USB port that worked the way you're thinking
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For the galaxy s6?
hueye1 said:
For the galaxy s6?
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It was for the S4, but the reason it shouldn't work for the S6 is that the S6 no longer uses the micro-usb/MDL plug. Just saying that it should be possible to power the phone and do OTG
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...words=samsung+galaxy+smart+multimedia+docking
anyone knows if Marshmallow Android 6 new kernel supports charge phone over OTG cable for Galaxy S6 Edge?
Lava OTG charger, 40 bucks and works a couple times. Lol I'm seriously about ready to throw all my devices.
I bought this cable: http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-Player-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00CXAC1ZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453677269&sr=8-1&keywords=otg+charging+cable and it works fine with my friends Windows Phone, i.e harddrive connects and the phone charges, but on my S6 it doesn't charge at all. Is this a wiring issue with the S6 or some software restriction?
Ev0s said:
I bought this cable: xxx and it works fine with my friends Windows Phone, i.e harddrive connects and the phone charges, but on my S6 it doesn't charge at all. Is this a wiring issue with the S6 or some software restriction?
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did you ever find a solution - having same problem OTG cable working on other android devices but not my T-mobile S6 with broken touch screen
I know I'm late on this, but I have an S6 around and I'm trying to make other uses out of it, however I have struggled with this with everything I've done.
I haven't solved this, but today I came with an idea that may help some people, at least it seems it will work for me.
Ok, we cannot charge through the usb while using OTG, but we can charge through wireless and use OTG at the same time.
I have tested this with a cheap wireless base and I have plugged to the OTG first a powered usb hub and of course the phone was charging without problems. Then removed the hub and plugged a USB micro SD reader with a card directly to the OTG cable, it also continued to charge, it has charged to 100% with that plugged on.
Hope it helps.
Regards.

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