[Q] CM9 (Fat'n'Creamy) vs. CM10 (JCSullins) - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I just thought it would be useful to start a thread focused specifically and exclusively on the pluses and minuses of the two great choices we have for our Touchpads.
I suspect a lot of us are sitting with CM9 nightlies and wondering which way to leap...what do people think? What are the benefits and issues with each?
Thanks.

CM10 Con: No flash support
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-SGA- said:
CM10 Con: No flash support
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I'd say that is more of a "Pro" than a "Con", in my opinion.

Even without flash support we can still install it and run it with native browser or Firefox.
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I was noticing graphics errors with flash on CM10, either low FPS or scrambled looking flash elements. I also got this in other UIs in CM10 randomly. I went back to CM9 since I don't really see the benefit of CM10 at the moment.

spunker88 said:
I was noticing graphics errors with flash on CM10, either low FPS or scrambled looking flash elements. I also got this in other UIs in CM10 randomly. I went back to CM9 since I don't really see the benefit of CM10 at the moment.
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Yes, so do I
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I like cm10! Much smoother and faster! Graphics are great! Flash works great in both dolphin and puffin browser! My antutu scores were much better!
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What's considered to be the best rom for stability and battery life that is ICS or JB?

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CM7 vs ICS

Is it just me or somebody else there who preferes CM7 over ICS and feels CM7 is better, for the time being, than ICS, performancewise and customizationwise.
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CM7 is certainly more customizable for now, but if you're talking about performance and stability, both CM7 and CM9 are still not as good as some of the stock Froyo 2.2.1 roms, mainly due to free ram. With more free ram, the processor doesn't need to constantly close and reopen processes. Nonetheless, I prefer ICS over froyo and CM7 simply because of the many subtle yet important improvements, such as the keyboard and spellcheck, smoother game performance(eg: runs GTA3 with no lags), and the improved user interface.
ICS' only weakness in my point of view is the lousy multitasking, due to low ram on our galaxy s. I can't even open the browser and a simple game like angry birds at the same time without one of them being closed. Multitasking was slightly better on gingerbread and much better on Froyo.
CM7 in my opinion, is not faster than CM9, though it is currently more stable and has fewer bugs. But the huge community support that ICS has currently makes it better for me.
To check the multitasking I opened some apps and without killing them I checked the running processes. They are not shown there but in the cached running processes they are shown. Why?.
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mashray said:
To check the multitasking I opened some apps and without killing them I checked the running processes. They are not shown there but in the cached running processes they are shown. Why?.
Edit: cached backround processes
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Cm9 is still in development phase... Cm7 is stable and being developed since long time. Once cm9 is fully developed we can compare them...
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ManDOT said:
Cm9 is still in development phase... Cm7 is stable and being developed since long time. Once cm9 is fully developed we can compare them...
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Yes, thats why wrote "for the time being" and definitely I'm not comparing them. I'm just asking the users opinion to choose.
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CM7 was nice, but right now I'm just lovin ICS.It looks and feels way better.
CM9 all the way. I'm just surprised how good it is for alpha. Better than 2.3 roms, imo.
dheeraj11 said:
CM7 was nice, but right now I'm just lovin ICS.It looks and feels way better.
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yep!!
yes
yes cm7 is much faster and stable than ics
Please remember that cm9 is still an ALPHA build.Sure it is not yet as custom able as cm7...but it will be. But back to the question tho , cm9 defo for me.
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And isn't the battery drain slower in CM7 than in ICS roms.
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And isn't the battery drain slower in CM7 than in ICS roms.
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Yes, it is... Battery backup of cm7 is better than cm9 that's why I'm back to cm7.
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I have never tested cm7. I think if you want to use a custom ROM, you should take ICS.
There isn't only cm9, you can also use something like AOKP (or BLUE LIGHTENING, a AOKP based ROM from BHuvan goyal), it is nearly bug free and very customizable!
If you like the stock ROMs, stay there!

[Q] Best ICS rom - Daily use

Hi guys. I am currently using temasek's CM7 build 128, which I really enjoy. (awesome speed, awesome battery, looks cool)
However, I was wondering: is there an ICS rom good enough to use it daily? Even with the hardware acceleration -and other- bugs?
Every thread I search the information is messed up, it is impossible to know if the rom is useable or not. Although I really love testing new roms, I don't have all this time avaiable.
Any sugestions?
Hi,
Try owain CM9.
Regards,
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Owains Domination CM9 (he freshly released Build80). Smooth and quickly. Got nearly no RRs now.
Have fun.
What is the better kernel for this rom?
MIUI v4 by hariel graphics and speed with harsh power 3.0 kernel.
LG O2X - BLACK - ROM MIUI V4 2.6.1 By Hariel
KERNEL HARSH-POWER 3.0.34
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MIUI v4 by hariel graphics and speed with harsh power 3.0 kernel.
LG O2X - BLACK - ROM MIUI V4 2.6.1 By Hariel
KERNEL HARSH-POWER 3.0.34
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This rom is based on ICS?
Eaglesblood stable version its the best
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yes. Based cm9.
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Im using Nova with Horsepower kernel. I have not reflashed it since June 1st and it is still smooth as hell.
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I tried NovaHD and it is really smooth, indeed.
However, apart from the bugs, I noticed 2 things that pissed me off:
1) the battery is warming up fast and stays hot for a long time. I reach 32~34 degrees within 15 minutes of moderate use. (I don't play games)
2) the multitasking feels quite heavy. I no longer can alternate between 3~4 apps instantly, as I could in CM7.
Is it normal from ICS, or will it be fixed when LG/Nvidia release the correct drivers?
thank you for your answers
cool.guy said:
2) the multitasking feels quite heavy. I no longer can alternate between 3~4 apps instantly, as I could in CM7.
Is it normal from ICS, or will it be fixed when LG/Nvidia release the correct drivers?
thank you for your answers
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I guess its because some memory tweaks, so I think it will be solved.
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@cool.guy,
if you haven't tried it yet, give tonyp's PARANOIDANDROID a try as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762494
I either use it or Owain's Domination for my daily use and very happy with both.
Good luck!
Paranoidandroid is also good, like owain's.
However, as I said, nothing compares to cm7. The interface feels much more responsive and light. Running CM9 I can feel the phone using all of its resources and still can't get a decent multitasking.
One of the two senteces below is necessarily true:
1) ICS is too heavy for 512Mb phones; or
2) The lack of hardware acceleration drivers makes the ICS a heavy system.
Agreed?
cool.guy said:
Paranoidandroid is also good, like owain's.
However, as I said, nothing compares to cm7. The interface feels much more responsive and light. Running CM9 I can feel the phone using all of its resources and still can't get a decent multitasking.
One of the two senteces below is necessarily true:
1) ICS is too heavy for 512Mb phones; or
2) The lack of hardware acceleration drivers makes the ICS a heavy system.
Agreed?
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Certainly not 1.
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tonyp said:
Certainly not 1.
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Why do you believe that? ICS has proven to be a more hardware demander system than GB.
It happened with my old Milestone 1: great phone, but lacked on ram just like optimus. (Considering the launch time).
Result: I had to stay on CM6 if I wanted a decent multitasking. The milestone simply couldn't handle the GB, due to the 256mb ram. So I stayed on froyo and was happy that way.
It seems to be the same situation between GB and ICS.
Please tell me if I am wrong.
Hugs.
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Tested Nova, Domination and Paranoidandroid with different kernels and I like Paranoidandroid the most.
I'll leave it as my standard ROM unless something awful will happen, which I'm sure will not : D
kohos said:
Tested Nova, Domination and Paranoidandroid with different kernels and I like Paranoidandroid the most.
I'll leave it as my standard ROM unless something awful will happen, which I'm sure will not : D
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tested Nova HD and Paranoid, both is nice and pretty.
1. Nova HD -- Highly customize, can custome your kernel, ril, and Gapp installation, and specially it had LG Optimus UI 3.0
2. Paranoid -- Hybrid system, can exchange your UI to Phone or Tablet and customize each App on the UI mode and DPI
(PS: i like both but i m using Paranoid now)
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tested Nova HD and Paranoid, both is nice and pretty.
1. Nova HD -- Highly customize, can custome your kernel, ril, and Gapp installation, and specially it had LG Optimus UI 3.0
2. Paranoid -- Hybrid system, can exchange your UI to Phone or Tablet and customize each App on the UI mode and DPI
(PS: i like both but i m using Paranoid now)
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I'm using Nova HD w/ Nova Kernel Pure Edition right now. With Ramhack (64mb) and autokilling task manager (at turning of the screen) it's freakin slick and runs smooth like a baby ass.
What are the pros/cons, forcing you to use Paranoid instead of Nova HD?
I'm testing the Owain94 rom (domination) with Harsh kernel 2107. I like it, but I have problem with scrolling in some apps. When I use the Dolphin browser and I turn the screen, the app freeze.
soXXeth said:
I'm using Nova HD w/ Nova Kernel Pure Edition right now. With Ramhack (64mb) and autokilling task manager (at turning of the screen) it's freakin slick and runs smooth like a baby ass.
What are the pros/cons, forcing you to use Paranoid instead of Nova HD?
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Do you really get the decent multitasking as in cm7? After 1 week of using paranoid, I got used to the not-so-good multitask.
When I flashed CM7 back it was like " WTF my phone is flying! I can open the facebook, browser, whatsapp and music player at the same time!"
Do the test. Try cm7 and compares.
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Lag on launcher

I was wondering if there is some kind of "lag fix" for the Optimus 2x, because I have a very annoying problem with lag in the launcher. I changed the launcher several times and the problem always remains ...
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I was wondering if there is some kind of "lag fix" for the Optimus 2x, because I have a very annoying problem with lag in the launcher. I changed the launcher several times and the problem always remains ...
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What rom do you use
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The last one stable cm7 rom from the official site.
which ROM??which launcher are you using??
for me CM7 temasek 135.3 with symbiosis 1.3.1 kernel with guest toolchain fixed every lag...
when multitasking heavily i used to turn Zram ON (192mb).(also I used GO launcher EX....with every GO app and widget possible so my configuration was pretty high on memory consumption compared to other launchers)
give a try to windows 7 launcher as well..it is smooth as ****(you can also have widgets on that)
but be prepared to sacrifice a bit of functionality
Also install Chainfire3D. Boosts the performance too especially in launchers with transition effects.
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xExabyte said:
Also install Chainfire3D. Boosts the performance too especially in launchers with transition effects.
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Say me how, because this is funniest thing I saw today.
Install buttery system from tonyp
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I personally think thats because of adw is the default one. Install stefan's hybrid cm7, youll find it very nice.
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Say me how, because this is funniest thing I saw today.
Install buttery system from tonyp
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Well at least that's what I noticed. You could try it out too. Try some applications without CF3D. After that install CF3D and run the same applications. Like I said, especially in launchers it eliminates the lag in transition effects. May just be a placebo but that always worked for me and significantly boosted the performance.
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xExabyte said:
Well at least that's what I noticed. You could try it out too. Try some applications without CF3D. After that install CF3D and run the same applications. Like I said, especially in launchers it eliminates the lag in transition effects. May just be a placebo but that always worked for me and significantly boosted the performance.
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That's placebo, i think. Even author, Chainfire said, that due to magic strings, CF3D might won't work anymore on newer android versions.
But maybe it is side effect? Who knows...
Anyway, the buttery system from tonyp works well. Also you can use Superchatger starter kit with suoercharger script. Good Luck OP
Rayman96 said:
That's placebo, i think. Even author, Chainfire said, that due to magic strings, CF3D might won't work anymore on newer android versions.
But maybe it is side effect? Who knows...
Anyway, the buttery system from tonyp works well. Also you can use Superchatger starter kit with suoercharger script. Good Luck OP
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I'm actually talking about CM7. Doesn't work on ICS and JB of course. The author of this thread uses CM7. That's why I recommended it.
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Fed up with stock 4.2 (ROM suggestions)

I lived my nexus 7 on 4.1 but man 4.2 build is so bad. It is almost unusable to me. It is laggy and buggy with freezing all the time. Any suggestions on something very stable, close to stock? How is cyanogenmod? Ideas would be appreciated. Looking to root tomorrow I can't take this any longer.
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I find Smoothrom and motley kernel to provide a very stable and fast combination with excellent battery.
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gsw5700 said:
I find Smoothrom and motley kernel to provide a very stable and fast combination with excellent battery.
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Ι tried that for a day, it was smooth and all but the battery life while idle was horrible.
Reverted to 4.1.2 stock, is there a way to get rid of the notification to update to 4.2 (without updating ofcourse)...
jlibis said:
I lived my nexus 7 on 4.1 but man 4.2 build is so bad. It is almost unusable to me. It is laggy and buggy with freezing all the time. Any suggestions on something very stable, close to stock? How is cyanogenmod? Ideas would be appreciated. Looking to root tomorrow I can't take this any longer.
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Strange how peoples experiences differ
I use stock rom 4.2 and never ever have any kind of lag or freezing of any kind - everything works 100% and buttersmooth constantly
I never have to reboot or anything, it just runs for months and not even once have I had any lag or problems
Try a 4.1 rom, CM 10.1 is your best bet, but im not familliar of this device roms.
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People have problems with 4.2 if they have old applications that are not updated for 4.2, don't clean their cache, or don't trim their storage.
Any complaints about battery life are due to applications requesting data synch or location. Those wake the Nexus up, and can be turned off.
4.2 is fine for me.
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I had similar issues in stock 4.2, tried about 3 others before settling on cm10.1, which runs smooth as can be for me with good battery life.
Seems like the these things are pretty finicky and everyone's handles different ROMs differently.
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I have not had good luck with aosp roms on my Nexus 7. I always end up back at cyanogenmod. Try fitsnugly's build.
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rmm200 said:
People have problems with 4.2 if they have old applications that are not updated for 4.2, don't clean their cache, or don't trim their storage.
Any complaints about battery life are due to applications requesting data synch or location. Those wake the Nexus up, and can be turned off.
4.2 is fine for me.
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You do realize not every device is the same. I keep good tabs on my devices. I would know if an application was causing the problem. I've factory reset the device and nothing has changed. Also I've heard from numerous people who have had problems like mine.
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I am looking for the same. I tried ParanoidAndroid but I kept getting into a boot loop. :/ I will probably try CM 10.1 next.
pachyderm said:
I am looking for the same. I tried ParanoidAndroid but I kept getting into a boot loop. :/ I will probably try CM 10.1 next.
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Happened me to, and just factory reset
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I use rasbean and Franco kernel atm.
I have no reboots and no lag.
Paranoid android 2.54 (4.1.2) with Franco kernal
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On slim 4.1.2...stock kernel...no issues at all! Love it!
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I love sparksco's saber mod ROM (4.2.1). It's very smooth and has excellent battery life (10%/hr screen-on time + 10%/day). The supplied kernel is great but I prefer metallice's m-kernel.
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That's exactly why I finally decided to root and rom. I did like the 4.2 features so I was shooting for one that incorporated those (dual-sided notification bar, etc.)
Paranoid Android nailed it for me. It feels just like stock 4.2 but is wayyyy smoother, wayyyy less problematic and has a ton of customization options.
I gave cyanogenmod and a couple others a chance first but Paranoid Android definitely has my vote.
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I decided to go with AOKP and I am loving it. So much better than stock it's crazy. Like night and day difference.
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it hard to decide which is the better rom.
btw i'm using paranoid android+franco kernel
I Use the super Charged Series N7, although PRIME D01-25 is also good. Both are very smooth with great battery life, especially when using M-Kernel or motley.
NEXUS 7:
Unlock/Root
N7 Super Charge v1
M-Kernel
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This is too funny...
If you have the latest version of jb and it is so bad you can barely use it than you need an RMA.. While it out may have some minor bugs I used it for a long time and loved it... I only switched to paranoid because I love the pie..
It sounds like a hyperbolic exaggeration to me. If not your device is faulty.. or you have some really bad apps messing things up..
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[Q] What is the advantage for choosing CM

What has CM for advantage above fw or other rom's?
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A clear difference is speed. No more lags in opening anything which is the major drawback of official jb.
How about battery performance. I now use dxamd1 with cocore 6.8. And I charge once a day in the nightly hours. And use my phone freqently the whole day
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For more info goto : http://www.cyanogenmod.org/
Google can give your answers faster and easier than getting it here, posting and waiting :silly:
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How about battery performance. I now use dxamd1 with cocore 6.8. And I charge once a day in the nightly hours. And use my phone freqently the whole day
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Battery is quite good for me. A good start considering the rom is not optimized yet.
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Battery life is amazing, considering cm10.1 is still quite raw. I've just plugged my phone in after 2 days.. 15% battery left. Some whatsapp, some messaging, some browsing, some music... the usual stuff. Wifi on 100% of the time.
So is speed, smooth as butter. The only drawback I was able to find so far is benchmark results... ran antutu and scored 5030 points, while the better stock JB roms are near or at 7000 points. Mind you, if I hadn't run that benchmark, I wouldn't have noticed there was a performance deficiency.. no lags, no hiccups, nothing.
If you don't use video recording, and don't mind turning the volume down then up during a call to solve the low volume problem... then yes, go with CM10.1 as it is right now, it doesn't dissapoint. It can only get better!
So wich cm Rom version comes out best out of the box here. And can i flash it over all fw versions?
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I hope that the issue of video playback is resolved soon!!
That's the only reason I don't try cm10.1
I think it will be fixable, I remember the times when g5 cm9 didn't have hq acceleration
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So wich cm Rom version comes out best out of the box here. And can i flash it over all fw versions?
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http://goo.im/devs/diegoch/janice/cm-10.1/nightly
Well, there are a lot of CM10.1 nightlies... Have a look in the archive, I've personally had excellent results with the 20130621 one. Don't flash the latest 20130627 since it's corrupted (it weights 94 MB and a full rom is about 165-170MB)
From what I've read so far, CM10.1 works just fine if flashed over XXLQE firmware, but could have problems if using another one as base. I used polish XXLQE as base and it worked perfectly, apart from the two or three bugs CM10.1 still has.
I think cm 10.1 and pac 23.0 works well with any other base too. I'm using indian ddulp8 and got no issue at all. But better install from fresh stock firmware to avoid any problems.

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