I have a prototype Focus S, is it of any use? - Samsung Focus S

I bought a "Not For Sale" Focus S on eBay. It seems to be a prototype and I was wondering if it is of any use for development. Maybe it has an unlocked bootloader? I don't know much about it.
In the about page
OS Version: 7695.WM7_Main (mojobld).20110620-1512
Firmware revision number: 2013.11.06.6
Hardware revision number: 25.1.0.3
Radio software version: 2013.11.6.6
Radio hardware version: 0.0.0.0
Bootloader version: 5.6.24.0
Chip SOC version: 0.74.2.1
I also have this stuff
SW VERSION: i937UCKF6
Compile Date: Jun 23, 2011
FTA SW VERSION: i937.001
HW VERSION: REV1.0
*#1234# results
PDA: i937UCKF6
Phone: i937UCKF6
CSC: i937ATTKF6

I found a menu if I hold the camera button down and turn the phone on
Here are some images from it
http://imgur.com/a/1LZbh
EDIT: Damn, looks like I messed something up. I selected TFTP and now it is stuck in a boot loop showing the connect to PC graphic and "TFTP Protocol" beneath.
EDIT 2: No I was able to get back. Anyone have any idea how I can dump the ROM and bootloader off of this this thing?

its very interesting, but the people that can help wont for various reasons.
we have nothing to flash so we cant modify a ROM and see if it will accept it
I haven't found a way to actually dump anything off it other than low level hardware stuff
we may be able to fool it in to thinking its a retail model but I don't think the updates would work, they are Diffs so an update would need to be from a specific version to a specific version, if im right in my thinking then unless there is an available update for your version it cant be updated, only flashed which takes us back to square one.
simply put, I don't know enough, I cant find anyone willing to sit down and work with us, I cant find any sources of information that could be of some use for us to learn from. There are people that can help out there, on here even, but they are doing other stuff and unless we can make it worth while for them to even give us a hand they wont.
we might be able to use a program called RevSkills to pull information off the device, ive not had any luck but mine is retail, but once agin I don't have a user guide or mentor, I roughly know my way about the program, and have an idea what it all does but in terms of its actual usefulness I do not know
but perhaps its a start for your own lessons!
oh your bootloader is older than retail as is your Firmware, theres a very good chance you can interop unlock it, and clearly your bootloader has options available to it that retail does not, I don't know how useful that will be to us at this stage.

Does anyone want this? I'd sell it for what I paid ($50) + shipping.

petard said:
Does anyone want this? I'd sell it for what I paid ($50) + shipping.
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The mobile phone works normally?
Can you make calls with it?
You can post more photos of the device?
Thanks.

ricardox6 said:
The mobile phone works normally?
Can you make calls with it?
You can post more photos of the device?
Thanks.
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It works. I was able to make a call. The front camera is inverted and the rear cover doesn't stay on perfectly. The rear cover is also in bad condition.
This is how I bought it. I saw it on eBay and thought it would be cool to mess around with. Not much I can (or know how to) do with it though.
It's running an earlier build of WP7.5 and doesn't offer an update when plugged into Zune. It is able to access the marketplace and install apps.
WindowsBreak doesn't work on it. Doesn't recognize the OS version.
The camera button is a little finnicky but seems to work.
The screen has two minor scratches that I couldn't get to show up in the photos.
Includes the phone, battery, battery cover.
I do not know if it is unlocked or not. I would assume not since it is an engineering sample but really don't know. I don't have another SIM card to test with.
Obviously the sale would be final and payment would be through PayPal
I have updated the album with more photos of the phone
http://imgur.com/a/1LZbh
Actually I just remembered an issue. If there is a SIM in the phone won't boot. You have to set it to airplane mode, turn it off, put the SIM in, turn it on, then turn off airplane mode to get the phone to work.

AW: I have a prototype Focus S, is it of any use?
i take it. how much to germany?
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Just want to let people know it's been sold.

reanimate the prototype
hi guys,
seems i finally killed it. no more boot menu. download mode ok, formatting ok but after reboot just colored pixel, screen gets brighter an brighter, then gets hot.
did the same tftp mistake, so no more bootloader access
any idea how to get it back to work? maybe how to dump stuff from download mode?
cheerz

fishfendi said:
hi guys,
seems i finally killed it. no more boot menu. download mode ok, formatting ok but after reboot just colored pixel, screen gets brighter an brighter, then gets hot.
did the same tftp mistake, so no more bootloader access
any idea how to get it back to work? maybe how to dump stuff from download mode?
cheerz
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we have no image at all and ive not found a way to get any comms enabling us to dump the ROM.... I thing your looking at a hardware solution, directly connecting to the ROM and pulling the data off it, then edit and potentially reflashing it

what hardware do you suggest? medusa box, octopus? anything special?
cheers
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I did some research but none had any ready documentation on the i937, you will need to learn from scratch, I would strongly suggest emailing them all, explain and see if it might work, I doubt any will say they WILL work, it'll all be probabilities. I can't remember why but I had ruled out the octopus
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Newbie- Could use some help

Hey there, I just got my G1 and got it unlocked and semi working on Orange UK. What Id like help with is some of the terms you use on here,
What is "Rooting"?
Where do I get the latest firmware update, as it's unlikely to come over the air to an Orange customer.
With the APNs do I need to set up a different APN for each service? I.E. MMS, WAP, GPRS?
My marketplace is showing only free apps, is there another marketplace where all the paid for apps are stored and if so how do I access it?
I'm sorry for all the questions, it's just i'm a total noob.
Thanks in advance,
Steve GOral
Steve_Goral, I can try to give you some answers... still a bit of a newb too tho
Rooting- basically allows you access to system areas/files of you phone that are protected to keep normal users from breaking the os beyond repair. (someone can probably explain this better?)
You'll have to look around for the latest firmware update for your model of phone, RC=bought from t-mobile(not rooted), JFRC=rooted t-mobile firmware, ADP=phones bought for app development(rooted by default)
I have no idea about the APN stuff, sorry.
Market Place is currently only available to RC(rooted & not), US model phones as far as I know.
Cheers for the help, my phone was bought off ebay in the UK. As far as i know it's a total UK model. How do i check the phone to see what the firmware version is?
from the home screen press -> menu-settings-about phone, your firmware version will be near the bottom, check out the Build Number: .....RC##....
Just done that, I'm such a knob. There's actually a whole thread with a proper idiots guide to rooting the phone. As soon as I get in I'm going to do it - if only for the auto rotate feature and stuff. It seems like such a good phone but there's just a couple of features that let it down. Blue tooth seems pretty poor as standard too. Be good to get access to the whole range of apps to really get this thing ripping away.
ya, I basically just did it to have the to 'kewl' features too(coming from the wing which got old pretty fast). With a little bit of reading I got debian (command line os) on here. I can use the G1 as a virtual 'modem' with speeds around 50-100kb/s. Kill apps that are running in the background at will There's a ton of other 'how tos' as well.

Force Enable Internet Connection Sharing

Hey, everyone.
I just bought an ATT Samsung Focus S i937 off of eBay. It was locked when I received it, so I plunked down 25 bucks and unlocked it. I'm using it on Telus and so far all is well, except for WiFi connection sharing/tethering.
When I try to enable internet sharing, I get a message saying "Connection not shared. To enable tethering on this device go to (ATT's website) or dial 611."
Basically, it sounds like I need to have an ATT tethering plan to enable this on my phone, but since I'm not an ATT customer, there's not mch I can do.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this. Please let me know!
Thanks,
Taylor
TaylorofCanada said:
Hey, everyone.
I just bought an ATT Samsung Focus S i937 off of eBay. It was locked when I received it, so I plunked down 25 bucks and unlocked it. I'm using it on Telus and so far all is well, except for WiFi connection sharing/tethering.
When I try to enable internet sharing, I get a message saying "Connection not shared. To enable tethering on this device go to (ATT's website) or dial 611."
Basically, it sounds like I need to have an ATT tethering plan to enable this on my phone, but since I'm not an ATT customer, there's not mch I can do.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this. Please let me know!
Thanks,
Taylor
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firstly DO NOT INSTALL THE SAMSUNG UPDATE!! and if updating the OSan have it unlocked already read This Website and use the relock prevent + edit your hosts file
Absolutely back up your device at every stage using This Guide
So follow these steps
unlock the device Here follow the instructions which includes installing the diagnostic tool and install XAP deployer or XAP handler Here or Here With the XAP file deployer in the WP7 SDK
Then install WP7 Root Tools Here
Then install WP Bazaar market Here
Open Root Tools, and give Bazaar higher level privileges
Find WinTT on the Bazaar market and install it
Open Root Tools, and give WinTT higher level privileges
you may need to restart to get WinTT working
go through WinTT and turn on ICS
Done
Wow thanks.
That's very complete. One questions though... I didn't mention this, but I am a registered WP7 dev and can unlock this device using my dev access. Can I load any of the XAPs directly instead of having to crack my phone?
Thanks,
Taylor
Yeah, you have limited access to installing xaps, but you will still need to interop unlock and use root tools to give higher level access to WinTT, so your best starting from scratch,
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Unable to understand the process
I have purchased an Samsung Focus S i937 locked to AT&T. I have purchased an unlock code and have successfully unlocked my phone. Im also unable to use the Internet Sharing feature of my phone. Firstly, I am not a technical guy hence im unable to understand the process stated by you. Secondly, I wanted to find out that does following the process given by you, expose my device to get BRICKED as I am able to understand that involved a JAIL BREAK of the device. Does it have any other side effects.? Like effecting the radio signals or any other such problem.
Thanks
abhijeetmohan06 said:
I have purchased an Samsung Focus S i937 locked to AT&T. I have purchased an unlock code and have successfully unlocked my phone. Im also unable to use the Internet Sharing feature of my phone. Firstly, I am not a technical guy hence im unable to understand the process stated by you. Secondly, I wanted to find out that does following the process given by you, expose my device to get BRICKED as I am able to understand that involved a JAIL BREAK of the device. Does it have any other side effects.? Like effecting the radio signals or any other such problem.
Thanks
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ok, first things first.
You won't brick your device, at worst a hardrest all remove all changes you can do, our device, the focus S, isn't fully unlocked, so there are limitations to the amount of damage you can do by arseing it up. With that behind us you have to learn what you are about to do, there isn't a simple way.
So, start by knowing these basics, then read through the guide, any bits you don't understand feel free to ask.
1, AT&T locked your internet connection sharing, so you must re enable that
2, To enable ICS, you must make changes to the registry
3, Microsoft locked you out of making changes to the registry, so you must gain access to do it
4, AT&T left a security hole allowing us to make changes to allow us to change things like registry
5, using that hole we can install software that will give us more access, that software can then allow us to remove the AT&T lock on ics
These things you must do, there is no magic answer, there has been some short cuts made but this in some cases has had a negative effect, such as losing 3g, doing as I said will not have any effect on your signal or anything else
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Have you guys noticed any of the following....
issues after the above procedures were applied (a big thanks to all the brainiacs who know how to hack this stuff):
Slowed Internet Connection
Lower Strength of GPS Signal
Less accuracy and trouble sometime finding location
Less accuracy while using maps because of the above statement
Not complaining, just curious. Thanks to all.:good:
7carisfast said:
issues after the above procedures were applied (a big thanks to all the brainiacs who know how to hack this stuff):
Slowed Internet Connection
Lower Strength of GPS Signal
Less accuracy and trouble sometime finding location
Less accuracy while using maps because of the above statement
Not complaining, just curious. Thanks to all.:good:
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theres nothing in the code that should have done that, the XML import only fiddles with interop unlock
im not 100% sure what WTT changes but I know the entries it should be fiddling with and shouldnt make any difference, although its been suggested the ICS code does mess with the 3G signal ive not heard anything at all to suggest that it effects GPS as well.
See This Thread for details, ive copied the relevant bits here but all thanks should go to those on the original thread
Option 1
---- 11.3. If your device is not locked to a specific operator, you can use the Samsung Network Profile app (for 1st generation) or Wireless Manager (for 2nd generation)
-------- 11.3.1. Uninstall the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.2. Download and install the latest version of the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app from the Marketplace.
-------- 11.3.3. Open the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.4. Select a different Network Operator.
-------- 11.3.5. Now Select your own Network Operator again.
-------- 11.3.6. Exit the Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
Option 2
Resolve Samsung connection problems
A lot of Samsung owners have complained here about connection problems. They blamed Interop Unlock, but apparently this has more to do with enabling "Internet Connection Sharing" than with "Interop Unlock". You should be able to recover the connection, apply this:
1. Start Diagnosis App> *#32489# ***DOES NOT WORK ON i937***
2. Tap "Back" 2 times to go back to Phone Control
3. Choose: [7] Network Control
4. Choose: [1] GFC
5. Choose: [3] Setting Cancellation
Wait for it to say success, then reboot.
GPS is a completely passive function, I don't have a problem with this, HSDPA may have issues for reasons unknown but using this method doesn't effect mine, perhaps its carrier specific..
dazza9075 said:
theres nothing in the code that should have done that, the XML import only fiddles with interop unlock
im not 100% sure what WTT changes but I know the entries it should be fiddling with and shouldnt make any difference, although its been suggested the ICS code does mess with the 3G signal ive not heard anything at all to suggest that it effects GPS as well.
See This Thread for details, ive copied the relevant bits here but all thanks should go to those on the original thread
Option 1
---- 11.3. If your device is not locked to a specific operator, you can use the Samsung Network Profile app (for 1st generation) or Wireless Manager (for 2nd generation)
-------- 11.3.1. Uninstall the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.2. Download and install the latest version of the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app from the Marketplace.
-------- 11.3.3. Open the Samsung Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
-------- 11.3.4. Select a different Network Operator.
-------- 11.3.5. Now Select your own Network Operator again.
-------- 11.3.6. Exit the Network Profile / Wireless Manager app.
Option 2
Resolve Samsung connection problems
A lot of Samsung owners have complained here about connection problems. They blamed Interop Unlock, but apparently this has more to do with enabling "Internet Connection Sharing" than with "Interop Unlock". You should be able to recover the connection, apply this:
1. Start Diagnosis App> *#32489#
2. Tap "Back" 2 times to go back to Phone Control
3. Choose: [7] Network Control
4. Choose: [1] GFC
5. Choose: [3] Setting Cancellation
Wait for it to say success, then reboot.
GPS is a completely passive function, I don't have a problem with this, HSDPA may have issues for reasons unknown but using this method doesn't effect mine, perhaps its carrier specific..
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Thanks for the info. I'll see if it helps. Just as FYI, the code *#32489# does not appear to work on the i937.
7carisfast said:
Thanks for the info. I'll see if it helps. Just as FYI, the code *#32489# does not appear to work on the i937.
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indeed, so it would seem, many of the diagnostic codes have been disabled which is a pain, even the ones that are left don't always do what you expect them to do
8773 update
dazza9075 said:
firstly DO NOT INSTALL THE SAMSUNG UPDATE!! and if updating the OSan have it unlocked already read This Website and use the relock prevent + edit your hosts file
Absolutely back up your device at every stage using This Guide
So follow these steps
unlock the device Here follow the instructions which includes installing the diagnostic tool and install XAP deployer or XAP handler Here or Here With the XAP file deployer in the WP7 SDK
Then install WP7 Root Tools Here
Then install WP Bazaar market Here
Open Root Tools, and give Bazaar higher level privileges
Find WinTT on the Bazaar market and install it
Open Root Tools, and give WinTT higher level privileges
you may need to restart to get WinTT working
go through WinTT and turn on ICS
Done
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What if I have already updated to version 7.10.8773.98, is there any other possible way? I don't need any other features. Thanks in advance.
If you have updated the OS and NOT the samsung firmware then reapply the windows break interop unlock, be sure to keep it off the inernet by disabling all coms and then apply the relock prevent xap. if you have applied the Samsung firmware and didn't have it already unlocked or you didn't have a back up, your screwed
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dazza9075 said:
If you have updated the OS and NOT the samsung firmware then reapply the windows break interop unlock, be sure to keep it off the inernet by disabling all coms and then apply the relock prevent xap. if you have applied the Samsung firmware and didn't have it already unlocked or you didn't have a back up, your screwed
Sent from my Samsung Focus S using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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First of all I just want to say thanks that you're trying to help me, but I just didn't understand many things u said, I'm not really into technical stuff, but I'll tell you what info I have, in hope of u helping me better.
I don't live in the US and I bought the phone from ebay and it was unlocked and it works perfectly over 2 carriers here in my country, and I have never encountered any problems with it except for the internet sharing feature.
And about 3 months ago the phone notified my to a system upgrade from version 7.10.7740 to version 7.10.8107 then immediatly to version 7.10.8773.98. now I'm guessing these are OS firmwares not samsung software.
but I've noticed something, when I setup my phone for the first time I used a US hotmail account but before I connect to the internet the ICS feature worked, but once I signed in it gave me the dial 611 or go to att.com/mywireless message.
So I am guessing if I restore the device and sign in with a non US hotmail account may result in the feature to be unlocked. The only thing keeping me from trying this because I'll have to redownload all my apps again and reorganize my contacts again. if there's a way to avoid that or someone has tried it please do tell.
Again thanks for your reply.
kholio88 said:
First of all I just want to say thanks that you're trying to help me, but I just didn't understand many things u said, I'm not really into technical stuff, but I'll tell you what info I have, in hope of u helping me better.
I don't live in the US and I bought the phone from ebay and it was unlocked and it works perfectly over 2 carriers here in my country, and I have never encountered any problems with it except for the internet sharing feature.
And about 3 months ago the phone notified my to a system upgrade from version 7.10.7740 to version 7.10.8107 then immediatly to version 7.10.8773.98. now I'm guessing these are OS firmwares not samsung software.
but I've noticed something, when I setup my phone for the first time I used a US hotmail account but before I connect to the internet the ICS feature worked, but once I signed in it gave me the dial 611 or go to att.com/mywireless message.
So I am guessing if I restore the device and sign in with a non US hotmail account may result in the feature to be unlocked. The only thing keeping me from trying this because I'll have to redownload all my apps again and reorganize my contacts again. if there's a way to avoid that or someone has tried it please do tell.
Again thanks for your reply.
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ok, no problem
can you go to your device settings, in the about section can you tell me your OS version and your firmware version
Samsung Firware Update
dazza9075 said:
ok, no problem
can you go to your device settings, in the about section can you tell me your OS version and your firmware version
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Dazza,
Kudos for your help as you personally worked with me through this information. Not sure the Samsung update is a concern as I'm running fw2103.11.10.1 and everything works great.
Thanks again.
dazza9075 said:
ok, no problem
can you go to your device settings, in the about section can you tell me your OS version and your firmware version
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OS version: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware version: 2103.12.05.2
kholio88 said:
OS version: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware version: 2103.12.05.2
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im afraid to say your firmware is locked,
2103.11.10.1 is unlock-able, im pretty sure anything from xxxx.12.xx.x upwards is locked down solid
I don't suppose you made a backup? if you haven't then there is nothing you can do
the Samsung firmware update was released as a separate update at the same time as the tango 8773 build, it tried to install on mine after the 8773 build
Found a solution =D
dazza9075 said:
im afraid to say your firmware is locked,
2103.11.10.1 is unlock-able, im pretty sure anything from xxxx.12.xx.x upwards is locked down solid
I don't suppose you made a backup? if you haven't then there is nothing you can do
the Samsung firmware update was released as a separate update at the same time as the tango 8773 build, it tried to install on mine after the 8773 build
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I'm really sorry for the late reply, was busy at work. but during that time I might have found a "Glitch" or a workaround to enable it and I have tested it many times and it works.
Well there are two ways:
1st one which is a sure thing:
1) Turn off the phone, then turn on again.
2) Once the phone is turned on, immediately go to settings>internet sharing and turn it on and BOOM there you go :laugh:
* I have tried this method over a dozen times and it works every single time
** The point here is that you have to enable it immediately after the phone is turned on, I think it happens because the phone doesn't have enough time to send the info. to the servers to know that it's not enabled by default.
2nd one which was succesful over 75% of the time:
1) Go to Settings>cellular>Turn Off, Wait like 5-10 seconds and turn on again.
2) Go to Internet sharing> Turn on, and enjoy :fingers-crossed:
***I don't know why do they work or how, may be it's a Glitch like I said before but the point is they do work
I hope that I've helped someone out there and Thanks to everyone who tried to help me
kholio88 said:
I'm really sorry for the late reply, was busy at work. but during that time I might have found a "Glitch" or a workaround to enable it and I have tested it many times and it works.
Well there are two ways:
1st one which is a sure thing:
1) Turn off the phone, then turn on again.
2) Once the phone is turned on, immediately go to settings>internet sharing and turn it on and BOOM there you go :laugh:
* I have tried this method over a dozen times and it works every single time
** The point here is that you have to enable it immediately after the phone is turned on, I think it happens because the phone doesn't have enough time to send the info. to the servers to know that it's not enabled by default.
2nd one which was succesful over 75% of the time:
1) Go to Settings>cellular>Turn Off, Wait like 5-10 seconds and turn on again.
2) Go to Internet sharing> Turn on, and enjoy :fingers-crossed:
***I don't know why do they work or how, may be it's a Glitch like I said before but the point is they do work
I hope that I've helped someone out there and Thanks to everyone who tried to help me
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nice find, ICS is disabled locally only, it doesn't have anything to send, the only thing I can think of that makes sense is that the service hasn't been initialised and doesn't call the reg entries that disables ICS, by turning it on manually ASAP it perhaps catches it out. if you enable it, then disable it, can you still enable it again in that session or do you need to restart?
dazza9075 said:
nice find, ICS is disabled locally only, it doesn't have anything to send, the only thing I can think of that makes sense is that the service hasn't been initialised and doesn't call the reg entries that disables ICS, by turning it on manually ASAP it perhaps catches it out. if you enable it, then disable it, can you still enable it again in that session or do you need to restart?
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Well I tried that, but there is no definite answer to it, sometimes I turn it on and off on and off many times without needing to restart and throughout the whole day, and sometimes it works once and doesn't at the second try. So it all comes down to luck, but still better than nothing
Now the thing is I'm afraid that when the 7.8 update comes, they would fix this glitch =D Haha.

Brand new Ace detected in windows but won't boot into download no ADB detect?

Hey everyone,
NB: If you don't want to read all the fluff skip to the part highlighted in red
I am a n00b in this section of the forums, although I am a long time Samsung user of quite a few different models. Off the top of my head I have owned Galaxy S I900 (been modding these since their first release), Galaxy SII I9100, Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE P7320T, Galaxy S3 LTE GTi9305.
I've developed ROMs for I900, I kick started a team that's now 22 developers in size that support most devices across the forums, and I myself support devs for various devices....so I am fairly seasoned with regards to Samsung devices. They are my weapon of choice because I understand them and *usually* know their weaknesses, exploits etc and most importantly understand how to port from various other Samsung models to less feature rich devices (ones that would lack support from Samsung). I enjoy bringing new features to devices. Its fun.
So for Christmas I got my mum her first Android device.
She has resisted and stuck with her nokias for so long now and I can hardly blame her, but she has seen what my devices are capable of and how simple they are to use so I decided to go with the Galaxy Ace for a number of reasons, price point being the major factor.
I was shocked that I could get a device of almost on par standards to my S1 for just $68 brand new! Yes that is correct OfficeWorks here in Australia had these babies on sale for only $68 however locked to Optus, although my particular one is unlocked.
They had made a stuff up and we were promised the last one available at the store and we were prepaired to drive an hour to Brisbane in search of a store that still had stock if I had to (as you can imagine they sold like hotcakes at such a steal of a price) I would have grabbed more had I known that the sale was on.
Anyway long story short, they admitted that they had sold out of locked devices long ago and a staff member had let slip that they had been selling the unlocked ones for the same price because people were swarming for them every single day and they only had 1 more device left. So lucky me got the last one they had. Awesome!
Heres the bad part now, the phone WILL boot into recovery fine red coloured 3e. The device is detected absolutely fine in Windows, no driver faults, nothing flagged in device manager in Windows 7 64bit. I cannot get it to boot into download mode via the 3 button method. It just blatantly refuses as though there isn't even a download mode? Inside of Windows even though it IS detected fine, ADB does not see the device what so ever. I get the generic list of devices attached message. I have removed and reloaded drivers. I have done the 3 button trick with the battery out and dropping the battery back in whilst already holding the 3 buttons in and still no download mode?
The device is running Android 2.3.6 and is a bit of a slug. I wanted to get a decent ICS ROM on there for her with some nice features for one, and secondly because OMFG gingerbread looks so darn horrid. I forget just how crap this software was. Man it's gotta go!
Next issue, I have a solid WiFi connection and this thing refuses to create a Google Account? WTF? I don't have the sim for it (she is using it and my sim in my current phone is a micro sim and won't work. I have made a dodgy jigsaw puzzle like carrier out of an old simcard that works well to hold micro sims in place but usually only in the flip down tray style of simcard trays...I am not game to stick my sim in this slot style. So thats a no go?
I don't really have the Option to return it unless it is physically not working, I guess the Google Account not registering is enough, but the thing is that they won't have a device to give me as a replacement. Usually almost always when there are specials like this with 3rd party suppliers (OfficeWorks are not an everyday reseller for Optus nor Samsung and they aren't a telco either) so I know they will probably turn me away and say send it off the Samsung if I have any issues (which I kind of expected).
So what are my options from here?
Should I attempt to flash the latest stock firmware from Optus in a hope that it has a kernel that will allow me into download mode? How would I go about doing this? Does anyone know of any signed firmware packages that I can flash via the 3e recovery? This was a solution when I had the same problem with Gingerbread. Basically Samsung has been known for blocking download mode in their kernels so as to stop users flashing their own firmware, but still allowing them to do a factory reset from recovery. Shifty lil buggers aren't they My Galaxy S1 that had much the same issues? Because I couldn't get download mode on my S1, I flashed stock recovery 2e over 3e and then from there I was able to flash a stock gingerbread kernel (insecure kernel) and from there the world was my oyster as they say
Would this be similar approach for me? I can't get into download mode so I can't use Odin, so could I flash a different recovery (like stock 2e) flash a stock "insecure kernel" (do they still call it that these days?) then I should be able to make a backup recovery, or flash root from 2e and then just a terminal back up dd to my SDcard or ext SDcard right? Would any devs have these resources on hand?
Can anyone tell me what type of update script is used on these devices? Is it edify or amend? Also what binary? Would the binary from my S1 developments work for the Ace?
The biggest hitch is being no download mode. I know a lot of you guys in here from your recommendations to several users have been that you are screwed when you have no download mode? I believe that not to be so.....well coming from my SGS1 days that was quite common to have a device that would not allow download mode, I am just not so sure with the Ace? Maybe you guys are right and know better than me and maybe I am screwed?
I am all ears? Shoot with suggestions and I am willing to give them a try before driving all the way to Brisbane to search for a store that might still have stock to possibly get a device that might still have the same issue?
First person that can help me out of this situation I will share with them my work (that I still have) from the first port of proper TouchWiz ICS to SGS1 device (all but working with exception of the FM radio) I would really love to kick start that again and get another ROM going with some ICS but something other than AOSP (nothing wrong with AOSP btw, just there is less dramas with integrating TW apps into genuine TW firmware thats all ....anyway....
Ok I'm done. I have about half a week to spare before my mum is back from holidays to have this done for her, otherwise it's ****ful gingerbread for her
Cheers and merry Christmas if I don't hear back from anyone till then
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I tried to flash new recovery without download mode from existing 3e using this --> [UNOFFICIAL][RECOVERY] ClockworkMod v3.2.0.1 I was at least hoping to make a backup in recovery before "flashing anything dangerous" but unlucky me has gone and f*#ked things right up good and proper.
Has Australian model got a different partition layout or something? I was on Gingerbread as per the directions in the thread. What gives?
Now I can't boot, I can't factory reset error failed to mount system. No way of pushing to the sdcard from recovery cause ADB never worked to begin with. Now I am screwed.
Whats my options?
Wow, you're seriously have a problem...
What is your device? Ace S5830?
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question: how to update android system on google g1 development phone

i have a google g1 development phone (NOT a T-Mobile google g1 but a phone from prior to that release) and I am not a developer. my phone is progressively losing functionality as i can't load new versions of applications presumably since it is a development phone and licensed applications won't download. i don't need the development capability but would like to restore functionality, like youtube access etc., and also other licensed, purchasable applications.
i am probably in the wrong forum (not being a developer) but it is hard to find anywhere to ask this question and get direction to 'where to go' ... so my apologies, if that is the case.
Nope, this is indeed the proper forum and place to ask
A couple of questions though, is there an android version you want? The newest official update would be 1.6 doughnut but there are custom ROMs that may be better for you and even 2.3 gingerbread runs fairly well on this phone (and has more app choices)
Also to know the best way to change the software we need to know current firmware, can you boot to bootloader and write down all on that screen? (Power on while holding camera button)
response to demkantor
thanks for responding!
if it is possible for me to update the android system, that is great and i don't know too much about the systems to specify my needs in terms of system capabilities. as a user, i am not sophisticated and my main mission was to stop my phone from its progressive decline due to, i think, its inability to update the applications that were initially installed on it [i bought it 'new and in the box', not knowing it was a developer's system].
the parameters that i can access directly from settings ('About Phone') are as follows;
Model number
Android Dev Phone 1
Firmware version
1.1
Baseband version
62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
Kernel version 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] #6
Build number
dream_devphone-userdebug 1.1 UNLOCKED
121975 test-keys
IMEI
351676030141180
IMSI
00
OK, I would suggest a custom ROM which would allow you access to more apps and actually be more stable in many ways then current one
There are multiple methods to do so but in order to allow you to skip a lot of the steps (which I believe you can being a dev phone) I need you to tell me all on the bootloader screen
bootloader screen
demkantor said:
OK, I would suggest a custom ROM which would allow you access to more apps and actually be more stable in many ways then current one
There are multiple methods to do so but in order to allow you to skip a lot of the steps (which I believe you can being a dev phone) I need you to tell me all on the bootloader screen
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DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.3000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Oct 20 2008
Serial0
Looks like tapatalk didn't let me respond.....
So basically you do have options to do oneclick root apps but in order to use the latest-stable custom ROMs you will need to update firmware anyway
So I would suggest going through the same steps as someone without dev phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668524
See these old threads and we have walked people through this many times, but of course if you need a hand let me know where you get stuck
Best of luck!
demkantor said:
Looks like tapatalk didn't let me respond.....
So basically you do have options to do oneclick root apps but in order to use the latest-stable custom ROMs you will need to update firmware anyway
So I would suggest going through the same steps as someone without dev phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668524
See these old threads and we have walked people through this many times, but of course if you need a hand let me know where you get stuck
Best of luck!
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many thanks, ... have browsed those threads and see that i need to do some studying to get a view of the structure of these systems and understand the terminology. i guess the CyanogenMod website is the place to do that?
I notice the link that others used to for their pre-education is no longer viable;
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Dream:_Rooting
and there is no HTC Dream listed on the cyanogenmod supported devices.
also, i do not have a dataplan on my service (Rogers), should i be looking for someone to loan me their sim? (i guess i should hold my questions until i have done some homework).
thanks for getting me launched into this!
No problem! It is possible to do things differently than what's laid out in those threads, but I would be most confident using the ol tried and true methods
I've played around with a countless number of these phones for many years and this method always works without hitch so its the way to go IMO
Even if it feels complicated it really isn't much but there can be a learning curve if you are new to this kind of stuff
But to answer your question it is easiest if you can use a sim (this is an unlocked dev phone so any gsm with data plan) but it is not needed as you can bypass the start screen
And I have all files needed on my server as well as other places so if you can't find the right ones let me know and I'll link you
Best of luck!
demkantor said:
No problem! It is possible to do things differently than what's laid out in those threads, but I would be most confident using the ol tried and true methods
I've played around with a countless number of these phones for many years and this method always works without hitch so its the way to go IMO
Even if it feels complicated it really isn't much but there can be a learning curve if you are new to this kind of stuff
But to answer your question it is easiest if you can use a sim (this is an unlocked dev phone so any gsm with data plan) but it is not needed as you can bypass the start screen
And I have all files needed on my server as well as other places so if you can't find the right ones let me know and I'll link you
Best of luck!
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rgr, thks! when i think i know what to do, i'll post my plan here for critique prior to implementing it.
emeeliano said:
rgr, thks! when i think i know what to do, i'll post my plan here for critique prior to implementing it.
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Read through this for a good idea on the whole process
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189589

I have a blank canvas to work with, people!

Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. This website really is the best source for all your galaxy needs. I learned how to root my first Android, a galaxy S4 here. Anyways, I'm here because I have scoured the internet trying to find a certain ROM that it seems no one has made.
I have a Galaxy S6 Active. recently, I lost service with AT&T, and I want to install a custom ROM on it. Here's the things though. This is no longer an AT&T phone. I don't care about KNOX, or if I can make or receive phone calls on it. I want to turn it into smething completely different. Linux OS, perhaps. Just an external hard drive. If I had to put a name on what I'm trying to find, it would be "NFC device with bluetooth and WIFI capabilities". I hope I'm explaining myself clearly. It's no longer a phone to me, but a blank canvas I can tweak and morph into something completely new.
Lmao good luck. Root.bounty @ $1550
ThegoLopez said:
Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. This website really is the best source for all your galaxy needs. I learned how to root my first Android, a galaxy S4 here. Anyways, I'm here because I have scoured the internet trying to find a certain ROM that it seems no one has made.
I have a Galaxy S6 Active. recently, I lost service with AT&T, and I want to install a custom ROM on it. Here's the things though. This is no longer an AT&T phone. I don't care about KNOX, or if I can make or receive phone calls on it. I want to turn it into smething completely different. Linux OS, perhaps. Just an external hard drive. If I had to put a name on what I'm trying to find, it would be "NFC device with bluetooth and WIFI capabilities". I hope I'm explaining myself clearly. It's no longer a phone to me, but a blank canvas I can tweak and morph into something completely new.
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Take some time to use the "search" function :') there is no root for this phone so your stuck with Stock rom until root is available
ryanraven said:
Take some time to use the "search" function :') there is no root for this phone so your stuck with Stock rom until root is available
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Trust me, I did. There are so many cool ROMS out there. I guess what I'm not understanding is....well... why?
So, a cell phone (if you can even call it that any more, lol) is a piece of hardware with software on it. If I remove ALL of the software from it, Everything... even ODIN. Aren't I left with something similar to a laptop with a formatted hard drive?Can't I put something like an MBR on it and start from scratch? That's what I'm looking for. Not some program that can simulate kit kat or lollipop. I want something that will wipe it down to where all I see on the screen is a flashing C:\
ThegoLopez said:
Trust me, I did. There are so many cool ROMS out there. I guess what I'm not understanding is....well... why?
So, a cell phone (if you can even call it that any more, lol) is a piece of hardware with software on it. If I remove ALL of the software from it, Everything... even ODIN. Aren't I left with something similar to a laptop with a formatted hard drive?Can't I put something like an MBR on it and start from scratch? That's what I'm looking for. Not some program that can simulate kit kat or lollipop. I want something that will wipe it down to where all I see on the screen is a flashing C:\
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I don't think you understand how these phones work, you could indeed somehow wipe all the partition of the phone in Odin which if you didn't know isn't part of the phone but a computer program, but if your clever enough to build an OS by yourself to run on the phone then Thumbs Up! & you'd need to unlock the phones bootloader and have very expensive hardware and software to even get into this phone, your idea is good but impossible sorry to burst your bubble my friend.
ryanraven said:
I don't think you understand how these phones work, you could indeed somehow wipe all the partition of the phone in Odin which if you didn't know isn't part of the phone but a computer program, but if your clever enough to build an OS by yourself to run on the phone then Thumbs Up! & you'd need to unlock the phones bootloader and have very expensive hardware and software to even get into this phone, your idea is good but impossible sorry to burst your bubble my friend.
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mind=blown. OK, so that is something I was not aware of. So, to try and understand it better, that is like me trying to login to my laptop's BIOS and it having password protection that only Dell knows the code to?
ThegoLopez said:
mind=blown. OK, so that is something I was not aware of. So, to try and understand it better, that is like me trying to login to my laptop's BIOS and it having password protection that only Dell knows the code to?
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Yep, pretty much. Except in this case, it's both Samsung and AT&T's business agreements that have it locked down. Until someone cracks it, or they unlock it, we're all in a holding pattern.
chrisliphart said:
Y...it's both Samsung and AT&T's business agreements that have it locked down. Until someone cracks it, or they unlock it...
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Yes, big business definitely has us at their mercy. Plus I heard a rumor that the guy who unlocked the previous bootloader now works for them.
So, how would one, with only ODIN, a USB cable, an internet connection, and alot of time on their hands, go about trying to unlock this bootloader? I mean, I know there are many people out there who are WAY more qualified than me and have way better equipment. But, hey, I could do it. I'm coming into this with no frame of reference or previous experience. Meaning I have the ability to see the problem from a perspective that no one ever has before. Who knows... and I can't fail if I never even try

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