[Q] OTG with USB hub instead of Y cable? - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi friends,
I want to attach to my touchpad memory card reader and external hard drive.
I wonder if it will be possible instead of buying Y cable and connect it to the OTG, to use my existing USB hub and connect to him the devices and the external battery bank.
Will it work?
Thanks

avizov2 said:
Hi friends,
I want to attach to my touchpad memory card reader and external hard drive.
I wonder if it will be possible instead of buying Y cable and connect it to the OTG, to use my existing USB hub and connect to him the devices and the external battery bank.
Will it work?
Thanks
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im assuming youre talking about doing this in android 4.0.x +. if so then yes you should be able to connect an externally powered usb hub to the OTG cable and connect more than one device at a time.

Thanks
haxin said:
im assuming youre talking about doing this in android 4.0.x +. if so then yes you should be able to connect an externally powered usb hub to the OTG cable and connect more than one device at a time.
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Yes android 4.
to be precise, I don't have powered usb hub.
I have normal usb hub which I will connect him the power with usb battery bank device.
will it work?

avizov2 said:
Yes android 4.
to be precise, I don't have powered usb hub.
I have normal usb hub which I will connect him the power with usb battery bank device.
will it work?
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Yes. You need to give power to the periphal usb devices. I tried the same yesterday, without problems.

Hey all
I have a powered Belkin USB hub (this one: http://www.belkin.com/us/F4U040-Belkin/p/P-F4U040), coupled with an OTG cable which I know work together, as my Kindle Fire recognizes all USB devices through this setup (Keyboard, Mouse, Flash Drive etc).
I was surprised to find that my HP touchpad does not recognize any devices connected to this hub.
I did some diagnostics with USB Device Utility, and the touchpad recognizes my USB OTG cable, as it shows as a 'Qualcomm On-Chip EHCI Host Controller'.
The touchpad simply does not see anything plugged into the hub, be it a keyboard, mouse or flash drive.
Please help me here, guys!
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks

MainCourse said:
Hey all
I have a powered Belkin USB hub (this one: http://www.belkin.com/us/F4U040-Belkin/p/P-F4U040), coupled with an OTG cable which I know work together, as my Kindle Fire recognizes all USB devices through this setup (Keyboard, Mouse, Flash Drive etc).
I was surprised to find that my HP touchpad does not recognize any devices connected to this hub.
I did some diagnostics with USB Device Utility, and the touchpad recognizes my USB OTG cable, as it shows as a 'Qualcomm On-Chip EHCI Host Controller'.
The touchpad simply does not see anything plugged into the hub, be it a keyboard, mouse or flash drive.
Please help me here, guys!
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks
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Are you sure that's powered? The picture doesn't show any DC connectors. Is it powered by something like a mini USB to USB cable on the back? If so, that might not be enough to power the device and the peripherals attached to the ports.

Belkin Hub
Daistaar said:
Are you sure that's powered? The picture doesn't show any DC connectors. Is it powered by something like a mini USB to USB cable on the back? If so, that might not be enough to power the device and the peripherals attached to the ports.
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The belkin does have an external dc power supply and is not powered via usb

I think you need a Y cable even with a powered hub as its purpose is to inject power back into the OTG chip in the Touchpad.

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I could be wrong or downright delusional, but I didn't think you could (or worse yet, could cause damage if you tried).
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OTG works, BUT only in a very cumbersome way, since external power is needed.
A powered USB hub does not suffice, since it only powers the slave devices, not the host (= phone). The phone must be in charge-mode, which requires a Y-cable.
You need:
- an OTG adapter
- a USB hub with mini-USB in
- a USB Y cable with 2 normal USB plugs and one mini-USB out
Then
1. Connect the OTG adapter to your phone's micro-USB input
2. Connect the 'middle' USB plug of the USB Y cable into the OTG adapter
3. Connect the 'outer' USB plug of the USB Y cable to a charger (can be a portable battery as well)
4. Connect the mini-USB plug of the USB Y cable to the hub output
5. Connect any device you want to use to the USB hub
It looks like this (found this picture for Razr):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teppan_hakushaku/6817735705/
Edit: I verified it for Droid 4 last week, but didn't take my own picture yet. Works with ICS .215 leak, no 3rd party apps (like 'StickMount') seem to be needed.
Edit2: According to some other posts in this forums (search for 'OTG') it will only work for FAT32 formatted drives. Didn't check this in detail but my drive was already FAT32. Also I found it did not work for my cheap wireless keyboard's USB dongle, but connecting a wired keyboard worked fine.
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Glad I could help!
They come with some portable harddisks, so that's where I got mine. Not sure about the linking policy on XDA, please remove if not allowed. Here's an example:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-2-0-mini-5-pin-to-a-male-power-y-cable-62-cm-65630?item=10

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Hello,
I have a USB OTG cable and dell keyboard that I have tested and work in OTG mode on a Nexus 7, however i cannot get them to function with my HP Touchpad 32gb, running CM9 2.6.35, built on Sun Oct 28.
The device recognizes when I plug in anything via USB, but only as a generic Linux USB hub, and not as any particular device. Are there any steps to take to debug this? Has anyone had experience with this type of an issue?
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I don't know if this is the issue, but I know the touchpad doesn't support OTG like the the Nexus does. I think you need a Y-adapter + OTG to provide power since the micro usb port doesn't give any power to the device you connect. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.
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Read this thread, should give you all the info you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582771
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wcdolphin said:
Apparently even a powered USB requires a powered Y cable to be properly recognized. I hacked together a quick Y cable manually, by splicing in another USB cable's power and ground (Red and black) to the respective locations on a female USB cable. Works as expected.
I am now communicating with an Arduino over Serial
Thanks!
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I'm curious if you are able to charge with this cable hack while using usb devices?
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ZedZardoz said:
I'm curious if you are able to charge with this cable hack while using usb devices?
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if so , he is the first of the many many many who has used this cable..HPTP just is not set up for charge + usb data at the same time
amkaos said:
if so , he is the first of the many many many who has used this cable..HPTP just is not set up for charge + usb data at the same time
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Agreed. I think people just are not stating reality regarding the ability to charge and use OTG Hosting to USB devices at the same time.
My goal here has been to attach a flash drive with video/audio media and play & charge on long flights. It looks like play, charge are mutually exclusive on my beloved TouchPad.
I've asked for the specific confirmation of this from this YouTube but have never had the poster reply:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p10LgZFIawo&feature=BFa&list=PLCED27D4A23068E04&index=7
There are devices out there that have very advanced micro USB device implementations. Sadly the HP is only superficially supportive.
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ilooze said:
SO I was this weekend to ski and when I came home I couldn't find my usb cable and charger...I have another mini usb cable but it just charging my phone mass storage not working...this is because is not an original usb cable right? Is there any tric or something to make it work?
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if it is charging.....then the pins for the data transfer in the mini-USB cable is not connected.....AFAIK, I think there are no tricks....
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I was wondering, can you use a usb otg with a usb hub so that you can use a keyboard and charge the N7 at the same time?
It probably won't work with a USB hub, because the side of the hub that plugs into the tablet wants to receive power, not give it.
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