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I recently installed Serendipity and made sure the battery was at 100% while doing so (and deleted the battery file). I'm waiting for the battery to drain before I plug it in. Am i supposed to let it charge all the way again? Also, is it safe to reboot the phone while it is draining the first time? I want to install something using clockwork.
I'm being careful about this because cognition would report 14% battery life after 33 minutes of display usage and display eating up 96% of my battery....
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I recently installed Serendipity and made sure the battery was at 100% while doing so (and deleted the battery file). I'm waiting for the battery to drain before I plug it in. Am i supposed to let it charge all the way again? Also, is it safe to reboot the phone while it is draining the first time? I want to install something using clockwork.
I'm being careful about this because cognition would report 14% battery life after 33 minutes of display usage and display eating up 96% of my battery....
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There's a complete thread on this, I suggest you look it up.
After you reset your battery stats, it is suggested to do a few full battery circle (use til dead, full charge, rince and repeat). You should be fine after 2-3 circles.
Note tho that it will not improve your battery life. All it does is a attempt to tell your phone what % your battery life is exactly.
For your fast drain, I don't think it has anything to do with your battery calibration or your ROM. It's most likely a app (or a few) that are draining alot of juice or that are running w/o realy being needed. (Check your running services.. make sure you know which one to stop and not to***)
Also using a app/widget like advanced task killer can help your battery life as it will stop every app running with a simple touch. I suggest doing it anything you're not using your phone.
One last thing, display eating 96% of your battery is normal.. it's not telling you it's using 96% of your battery. It's telling you that during the time your phone as been unplugged, your display use was your main action.. probably cause you didn't make many calls or anything else.. Display is just about everything you do with your phone so it will always have some high numbers like that.
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There's a complete thread on this, I suggest you look it up.
After you reset your battery stats, it is suggested to do a few full battery circle (use til dead, full charge, rince and repeat). You should be fine after 2-3 circles.
Note tho that it will not improve your battery life. All it does is a attempt to tell your phone what % your battery life is exactly.
For your fast drain, I don't think it has anything to do with your battery calibration or your ROM. It's most likely a app (or a few) that are draining alot of juice or that are running w/o realy being needed. (Check your running services.. make sure you know which one to stop and not to***)
Also using a app/widget like advanced task killer can help your battery life as it will stop every app running with a simple touch. I suggest doing it anything you're not using your phone.
One last thing, display eating 96% of your battery is normal.. it's not telling you it's using 96% of your battery. It's telling you that during the time your phone as been unplugged, your display use was your main action.. probably cause you didn't make many calls or anything else.. Display is just about everything you do with your phone so it will always have some high numbers like that.
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Yeah, I've seen the thread before but forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me. And my point about the display was that it was on for such a short amount of time, yet still killing my battery.
I am now down to 30% or so after 3 hours or more of display time after calibration & rom switch- and I was streaming music through WiFi and using Bluetooth headphones. So it it seems like it made a huge difference =D
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Hey guys, I have a weird issue. Regardless what ROM I am on, my battery percentage will randomly drop like 10%
Randomly, I will be using it, I'll be at 70%, then it will just drop to 60%, normal use. Been happening a lot more recently.
Is this a sign of a battery going bad? I've had this phone roughly a year (Stock battery).
Thanks!
What does your battery life look like? A battery's performance WILL degrade over time, but if your battery life is still good enough for you, I don't see any harm in continuing to use it.
You could get an app like Battery Monitor Widget. It will keep track of usage and calculate the health of the battery. You can also try wiping battery stats (the app can do that too), it could just be the phone mis-reading the battery...
Just as the title says is the power saver options like CPU and data connection really useful as well as the "sleep mode" option in power settings or are they making battery life worse?
If they are power savings options i don't see any reason why it would drain even more?
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shahkam said:
If they are power savings options i don't see any reason why it would drain even more?
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well according to this quote from another thread on xda in the sprint htc one forum,so I wasn't sure because it says it does make it worse.
"Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer)."
-Vincent Law
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link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347615&highlight=power+saver
Anyone?
I keep the power saver on most of the time. The main things I notice is that it dims the display (not really an issue if you work indoors) and it disables the wifi and data connections after periods of inactivity.
No real downsides (I'd be curious to hear other people's experiences). Sometimes receiving WhatsApp messages takes a couple extra minutes if the data/wifi connection goes to sleep.
Seems to give me good battery life - I average 15-18 hours, and that's including a fair amount of on-screen time and music/podcasts during the day.
I used power saver quite a bit in the 2 months after I got the phone but I don't use it anymore. In my experience it helped very little (as in added an hour or 2 maybe to overall life per charge). My baseline average battery life is 21hrs GSam tells me, and that's without power saver on at all (wifi, nfc, cellular always on and screen at 100%) and about 3hrs screen on time.
It may just be that, as was mentioned above, my use doesn't utilize the benefits of power saver because I don't often do cpu intensive things. It did run a bit cooler though. I also prevented the mode from diming the screen. I always (and still do) found that most of my power was going to the system (apps etc) @80% even with the screen maxed, and that I would lose about 20% overnight with our without power saver. So I stopped using it because : 1. It didn't improve MY USE 2. I didn't like the notification icon 3. I hear really good things about Battery Guru from experienced XDAers and the app seems more intelligent than power saver to me so I use that now. Unfortunately it's still too early to tell how much this will increase my average usage.
Regarding the issue of damaging your battery, the way it was brought up refers to the number of charge - discharge cycles a battery has. So only something that discharges the battery more quickly (so that you have to do another charge cycle more quickly) will shorten the battery's life. If nothing else, logically using power saver would not do this. It won't hurt the battery and may not hurt your usage (remember the GPU can still run at full clock for games), but I don't think it will help you much either based on my experience.
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racingmatt1 said:
well according to this quote from another thread on xda in the sprint htc one forum,so I wasn't sure because it says it does make it worse.
"Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer)."
-Vincent Law
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link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347615&highlight=power+saver
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dont believe everything you see online. All it does it limit the CPU, as opposed to running 1700mhz, its capped at 1134mhz, this is not detrimental.
it takes power to make power, undervolting and downclocking processors has been repeatedly proven to assist and aid battery life.
it takes a certain balance or the two to get great results. Mind you the stock kernel is great but its adaptive. So dont be discouraged when seeing bad battery life initially.
If I leave my phone off charge overnight, I usually loose around 5%. If I turn powersaver on, I only loose 1-2%. This is with around 8-10 hours of no usage, with wifi on. It also turns off vibration feedback when using the back and home keys.
I've also noticed the phone to be slightly less responsive with power saver on. As far as I can tell, if you are concerned whether your battery will last you the few more hours you need, it will definitely help save power
It makes a difference and if you need the extra juice it will help you.
However, the amount of difference depends on your use.
If I am using Snapdragon Battery Guru should I deactivate Power Saver? Is the Power Saver a better/worse solution or a complementary one for optimising battery life?
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If I am using Snapdragon Battery Guru should I deactivate Power Saver? Is the Power Saver a better/worse solution or a complementary one for optimising battery life?
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Theoretically they should work together fine because Battery Guru studies what you do with your phone so that it can figure out what to prioritize and what to shut down - it adapts so it should adapt to the power saver situation. Underclocking the cpu shouldn't change what services it adjusts because you're still doing all the same things.
Battery Guru just finished "learning" on my phone yesterday so I don't know how good it is. But I lost 40% overnight for some reason which has never happened before. It's probably still adapting. Life seems to be better during use...
The comment above about the OS being adaptive is also very true, my first few charge cycles were dismal but they got better within a week (without power saver etc.)
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Theoretically they should work together fine because Battery Guru studies what you do with your phone so that it can figure out what to prioritize and what to shut down - it adapts so it should adapt to the power saver situation. Underclocking the cpu shouldn't change what services it adjusts because you're still doing all the same things.
Battery Guru just finished "learning" on my phone yesterday so I don't know how good it is. But I lost 40% overnight for some reason which has never happened before. It's probably still adapting. Life seems to be better during use...
The comment above about the OS being adaptive is also very true, my first few charge cycles were dismal but they got better within a week (without power saver etc.)
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Ya I'm using Juice Defender Plus on my HTC one running 4.1.2 for a few months now and I'm not sure if it's making too much of difference. Are you finding Battery Curu pretty decent?
I turned it off on my wife's HTC One. It was disabling data/wifi after several minutes inactivity, which caused FB Messenger to freak out and stay awake, which caused the battery to drain faster than if the data was just left on.
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If I leave my phone off charge overnight, I usually loose around 5%. If I turn powersaver on, I only loose 1-2%. This is with around 8-10 hours of no usage, with wifi on. It also turns off vibration feedback when using the back and home keys.
I've also noticed the phone to be slightly less responsive with power saver on. As far as I can tell, if you are concerned whether your battery will last you the few more hours you need, it will definitely help save power
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Hmm... If I leave my phone off the charger overnight after a full charge with power saver with WiFi on for 6 hours it will be down to 95% with no usage.
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Ya I'm using Juice Defender Plus on my HTC one running 4.1.2 for a few months now and I'm not sure if it's making too much of difference. Are you finding Battery Curu pretty decent?
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Sorry still to early to tell really, it's learning period ended yesterday so it'll take time for GSam to find the new average usage. But again it SEEMS to have improved drain during use. I'm really not sure what the drain last night was but if it happens again tonight the app is gone...
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Hmm... If I leave my phone off the charger overnight after a full charge with power saver with WiFi on for 6 hours it will be down to 95% with no usage.
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I used to have a higher drain, but after some research, I found out using betterbatterystats that google maps was waking up the phone often and preventing sleep. I corrected this by disabling "report from this device" in google maps settings.
Before this, I experienced similar battery drain with power saver on.
From experience, it's best to determine phone sleep time and app battery usage, and correct this to achieve the best life.
I'm currently able to get two days with light usage without power saver!
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Sorry still to early to tell really, it's learning period ended yesterday so it'll take time for GSam to find the new average usage. But again it SEEMS to have improved drain during use. I'm really not sure what the drain last night was but if it happens again tonight the app is gone...
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I changed my mind, I'm consistently losing 40% per night after Battery Guru activated. I can't confirm that this app is the problem, but it's never happened before and I haven't changed anything but adding the app. Maybe just me experience though.
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I've uninstalled BatteryGuru for the same reason
I'm relatively certain that for many people this is super old news, but I'd like to share this anyway just in case it helps anyone (and a bit because I'm just so impressed by how it works )
I've tried a few different power saving strategies on this phone and have been disappointed with all, including just keeping power saver on all the time. I would always lose 20-40% overnight no matter what I did. I should also clarify that it is not acceptable for me to just disable a bunch of things to get that drain under control. So one day I turned on power saver (everything checked off) and just turned off wifi, and I've been doing it ever since because now I only lose 5-10% over night maybe a strange thing to be excited about considering my other devices lose as little as 1% in that time with nothing turned off, but everything's relative.
I think now I'll try keeping wifi off and power saver on throughout the day and see what I get. Though I'm not sure I like the thought of data being turned off during the day when the screen isn't on...
For me at least this is the single best battery saving thing I've ever done on my One.
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What you mean by saying that you "turned on power saver (everything checked off)"? What Power Saver does if everything is checked off? I suppose like that it actually doing nothing. If you uncheck everything and turn it on isn't the same as turning Power Saver off?
Hi all! I have bought a HTC One last week. I am in love with my HTC One except one thing - not getting a good battery life. After 15 min facebook/whatsapp in wifi battery drops ~10%. I read in forums that it might be a battery calibration issue. How can I calibrate my battery in my unrooted phone?
Also in 100% charge DU Battery Saver registers a voltage above 4.2v, around 4.38v. Why?
I have the International m7 version
Let the phone completely die. Then charge it until the led turns green
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Let the phone completely die. Then charge it until the led turns green
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Thanks for the suggestion, I am going to try that and update
Not a good idea, the battery last longer if it never runs flat and is only charged to about 85 >95%
there is NO benefit in trying to calibrate the battery
Try doing a factory reset and then re-adding your apps a few a a time leave for 24 hours at least before adding more, you will find that there is an app eating away the battery by constantly checking on the web for updates - facebook can do this but other are just as bad for it
You can change the update/sync frequency to allow for a better battery life
Life can also be affected by how many apps/how little memory is left/ how strong a signal, usage time screen is on and screen brightness
I expect you need to do a little reading around the forum for more tips tbo
Now I am confused! Anyway I already did that. I also did a factory reset and install only the apps that matter to me. Thank you!
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I'd suggest you install something like Battery Stats Plus, and let that run for a while. I've found it useful for identifying battery drain in the past. It'll show you which applications are killing your battery, and you can decide what to do from there.
Hello,
I would like to ask you guys, what apps do you use to save your battery?
Naptime? Anything else?
Nothing... I don't need to install anything to save battery. That being said, I USED to do this with apps like Greenify on my Galaxy Note 3 (so like 9-10 years ago). But I had stopped doing that a while back as doing so had only lead to even less battery life lol.
to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
I've tried naptime and I've not really noticed a huge difference, at least in repeatable conditions, i.e. overnight. Same with Galaxy max Hz, although i like the additional controls that the latter gives
Love Bixby routines to switch to 2G when at home or activate batter saver when sleeping and not charging. Rly good stuff.
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
dscline said:
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I kind of do something similar. I've got a Bixby Routine to shut off the smart plug that the charger is plugged into when the Battery percent reaches 80. Unfortunately, Bixby routines isn't very reliable.
dscline said:
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I use Accubattery as well to monitor temp and charging.
If you use any power management especially 3rd party ones it can cause erratic behavior and may create conflicts that use more power than they save.
I deal with power hogs directly by either adjusting settings, disabling them or firewall blocking them.
Certain apps like Brave, Gmaps I manually close out when done or will they continue to poll the internet in the background and use power.
aronwhite95 said:
to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
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You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
I’ve been using AccuBattery with IFTTT to shut off a smart plug at 75% for several years now to extend my phone’s battery life. This has been very reliable, it runs every morning before I wake up.
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You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
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what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
mankvl said:
what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
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No, no. The first person essentially said to uninstall that crummy, built-in Facebook app and then to put some apps that you don't need notifications for into deep sleep mode. The second person mentioned the same thing with different wording.