Database Develop

Several questions here

Hey guys, first up will be the Apps2SD. Currently it shows:
SD Card
Total Space: 487mb
SD Card Secondary
Total Space: 456mb
Would like to check with you all, which sector are the applications installed to? And let say if i download mp3s or videos off the browser, where will it download to? Because when I connect USB to my HTC Dream, it only show one sector of the storage.
2nd question is that when I do a Wipe all in the Recovery mode, what does it wipe away? The entire phone storage? Does it include the davik cache as well?

Wipe will only delete the data partition. If you have apps2sd, the dalvik cache will be on the ext partition. downloads from browser go to /sdcard/downloads
apps +dalvik cache are located in /system/sd
You will need a rooted file explorer to modify things there. I recommend ES FileExplorer by EStrongs since its free. (it may be a little buggy but it should be easy to use once you get used to it)

hi there, data partition meaning at phone storage or system storage? if i do a wipe, wont it erase everything from /system/sd? Since /system/sd is at phone storage?

the data partition and the system partition are completely different. Both the data and system partitions are on the phone. /system/sd will not be affected by a wipe
What do you mean by phone storage and system storage?

phone storage and sd card storage i mean. my bad.

Ya the system partition isnt touched. The symlinks to the system partition arent used in recovery (at least i dont think ) so even though /data/app is symlinked to /system/sd
the /sd is not effected.

This is getting confusing, haha.. Okay, when I accessed my sd card through USB, how come it's only showing 512mb, this 512mb is the secondary or primary storage of the SD card? Applications are installed to the secondary or primary storage of the SD card?

You must be on a windows computer because it won't recognize a extX partition off the bat. Applications are installed to the extX partition.

I see.. So in the SD card storage settings, the secondary storage refers to the extX partition while the primary storage is the things I can see?

bryant_16 said:
I see.. So in the SD card storage settings, the secondary storage refers to the extX partition while the primary storage is the things I can see?
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Yes thats right

Can the phone access extX partition as in to look through the files? I tried with Astro, but I cant find it.

bryant_16 said:
Can the phone access extX partition as in to look through the files? I tried with Astro, but I cant find it.
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You may need rooted permissions. Download ES File Explorer and enable root permissions. It will be located in /system/sd

How do you enable root permissions? Is it inside the application itself to enable?

By the way, how do you put ringtone to phone memory?

bryant_16 said:
How do you enable root permissions? Is it inside the application itself to enable?
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ya its in the app under settings
see if you can see it without enabling.

bryant_16 said:
By the way, how do you put ringtone to phone memory?
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/system/media

I tried copy paste but cant work..

bryant_16 said:
I tried copy paste but cant work..
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Do you have enough room on your system partition?
If not, you wont be able to

Yeah, confirm got enough room for it. It just that i copy the ringtone from sdcard/media to system/media, it wont work.

bryant_16 said:
Yeah, confirm got enough room for it. It just that i copy the ringtone from sdcard/media to system/media, it wont work.
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try this in terminal
Code:
su
#cp /sdcard/ringtone.mp3 /system/media

[MOD] Mount SD card as a folder of internal memory for CM7

This seems to be the best solution if you just want to stock mounting in cm7, I don't know if build.prop changes with every new nightly so you'll probably have to edit it after every flash.
Stikkontakt said:
SOLUTION:
1: Create a folder in your internal SD Card (in my case "ExternalSD")
2: Edit vold.fstab:
Code:
dev_mount emmc /mnt/sdcard/ExternalSD auto /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc1
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard 9 /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.3/mmc_host/mmc2
3: Edit /system/build.prop
Code:
# Mount the internal SD card, too
ro.additionalmounts=/mnt/sdcard/ExternalSD
your external sd card is now mounted inside internal sd card. If you go to settings/storage, it will come up as unavailable, but the external content is inside your selected folder
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nomedor said:
After that you can mount external sd as a folder of internal by using this command in terminal emulator:
Code:
mount /mnt/emmc /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD
The problem is that it can't survive boot and you have to write this command by hand every time. I tried to make it run on boot by adding the command in \system\etc\init.d folder as a text file but it didn't work, although it should.
Any help is welcome
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That's why it didn't works!
Thanks for bring it up! I hope someone will help you becouse the way stock roms mount sd card is way better!

pushing it up, since this here is an interesting topic. It does indeed make more sense to mount sdcards like the stock roms mount it...
Hopefully someone can figure this out.
Also i noticed that if you do not mount emmc/_ExternalSD it gets recognised by the pc and otherwise not. This could be coincidence since i'm struggling hard with mounting my sdcards to my mac...

Unfortunately you are right, after this trick pc can only see the external sd card!
Maybe this isn't the right way to do it or somehow it needs to automatically unmount before you connect the phone on pc and then on disconnect remount it again.
Sadly my knowledge is limited, but I think that a real developer can do it in a heartbeat.

I'm not a real developer, but I remember that the modified fstab has to be put inside the kernel ramdisk.
I have found these two perl scripts somewhere on the net. They can be used to extract and repack the boot image. Could be possible that the base address has to be modified to work on the O2x, haven't tried it myself yet.
Zip including the scripts are here:
h t t p ://tuxfighter.de/Share/Scripts/
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This is easy peasy lemon squeezy . For me at least since ex-dev.
Instructions:
Get root explorer (cba giving adb commands on my phone)
Mount r/w
Go to etc/vold.fstab
Mount r/w again
Long press the file and click open in text editor
Now at the bottom swap the mounts. Sdcard to /mnt/emmc
And
emmc to /mnt/sdcard
Save and exit.
Delete backup and reboot.
I will post a flashable zip if you want soon.
DONT FORGET TO THANK ME!
EDIT: just read first post properly. It should work on every boot. It is for me on my g2x. Try my easy method

The problem is that I can't find a way to mount external SD in "/sdcard/_externalSD" from vold.fstab where /sdcard is internal memory, just like stock rom.
It should be possible...

nomedor said:
The problem is that I can't find a way to mount external SD in "/sdcard/_externalSD" from vold.fstab where /sdcard is internal memory, just like stock rom.
It should be possible...
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Have a look at the stock vold then
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I copied stock vold into CM7 and i got neither internal SD nor external SD then.

ranrick said:
I copied stock vold into CM7 and i got neither internal SD nor external SD then.
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I've already tried that. I can't understand why people are not interested in this

yeah, there are almost no applications which can use /mnt/emmc. So 1 partition is almost useless at current situation.

Any progress?
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ranrick said:
yeah, there are almost no applications which can use /mnt/emmc. So 1 partition is almost useless at current situation.
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Y dont u put all your pics,videos and music in emmc and leave sdcard for application data?
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webstar1 said:
Y dont u put all your pics,videos and music in emmc and leave sdcard for application data?
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Because we have to do It for EVERY new photo/Video

Stock's ROM vold.fstab is mounting /sdcard/_externalSD but this is not working on CyanogenMOD, it could be a CM7 "problem" after all!

No update? CM7 way to mount sd sucks IMHO!

katun79 said:
No update? CM7 way to mount sd sucks IMHO!
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if you want to test it (please do a nand backup before!), than try my kernel and add the -internal flag to it.
Download this
rename to vorkKernel-080611-internal.zip
and flash it.
It is untested, because I don't want this behaivour and I made it because a user requested it. So no gurantee that it will work etc.

Bennee:
From what i see in vold.fstab file in the flashable zip it only swaps paths...
Any luck mounting external sd in "/mnt/sdcard/_externalSD" ?

nomedor said:
Bennee:
From what i see in vold.fstab file in the flashable zip it only swaps paths...
Any luck mounting external sd in "/mnt/sdcard/_externalSD" ?
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there is a additional mounting script + some permission fixes. Should be called on every boot up (mount /mnt/emmc /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD).

Benee said:
there is a additional mounting script + some permission fixes. Should be called on every boot up (mount /mnt/emmc /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD).
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But it doesn't... _ExternalSD is empty with your kernel.

move apps to external stoarge

I am the lucky owner of a new RAZR-i and have practically no real complaints (yet). However, I would like to move certain apps (some games use up huge amounts of storage: Asphalt Heat 7) to my sdcard (labeled "external1" on my razr-i).
That does not seem to be possible. In settings it offers to move stuff to the external card, but only movies etc, not apps. when I go to apps and select the game, it also does not offer any option and finally "App2SD" could not move it either.
There must be a way....Any suggestions?
Thanks!

You can't bay all accounts due to the way Motorola work...
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htcmodteam said:
You can't bay all accounts due to the way Motorola work...
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Hey.... I'm on the same situation... That's my only problem with RAZR i
Is there really no way to transfer apps to SD?
Tks.

hacks should work...
I haven't tried anything like this yet (only just got my RAZR i) but I did a similar thing on a LG C660.
The hack I used was to move /data/app onto the SD card and symlink it back. So the phone could find everything under /data/app but the actual .apks were on the SD card (useful because the internal storage was tiny).
I used an app called Simple2Ext to enable this hack but it was probably designed for older devices and may not handle the different paths used on the RAZR i. It also installed startup scripts (that ensured the SD card was mounted early during the boot so the symlinks were valid when they were first accessed) that are most likely not compatible.
If you want to move only some apps, move /data/app/<app>.apk to the SD card and symlink it back into /data/app. You'll need to manually clean up the .apk on the SD card if you remove the app.
With both of these, you can't boot the phone without the SD card or remove the SD card at any time while the phone is running.
An example of the commands you might use (entered into an ADB shell or terminal):
move all apps to SD card
Code:
$ su
# mv /data/app /external1
# ln -s /external1/app /data
move angry birds to SD card
Code:
$ su
# mkdir /external1/app
# mv /data/app/com.rovio.angrybirds-1.apk /external1/app
# ln -s /external1/app/com.rovio.angrybirds-1.apk /data/app
If you don't understand the above... please don't do this. It's dangerous and you could break your phone.

You can use directory bind for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Need to use the alternate DB (check the settings of the apps), but it works great to "move" folder from the sdcard to external.
This is the only workaround we have until a custom rom let us use external as SDcard.

Direcrtory Bind
Le_Poilu said:
You can use directory bind for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Need to use the alternate DB (check the settings of the apps), but it works great to "move" folder from the sdcard to external.
This is the only workaround we have until a custom rom let us use external as SDcard.
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I'm using DirectoryBind with my Razr i and works almost perfect, I can't make a Data base backup so if I turn off the Phone I lose all the bind directories and I have to do it again, so I'm not turning off the phone never ever. The rest works perfect and very fast.
good luck!

xopendaz said:
I'm using DirectoryBind with my Razr i and works almost perfect, I can't make a Data base backup so if I turn off the Phone I lose all the bind directories and I have to do it again, so I'm not turning off the phone never ever. The rest works perfect and very fast.
good luck!
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If you use the alternate db in the settings it will keep the bind directory after reboot
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xopendaz said:
I'm using DirectoryBind with my Razr i and works almost perfect, I can't make a Data base backup so if I turn off the Phone I lose all the bind directories and I have to do it again, so I'm not turning off the phone never ever. The rest works perfect and very fast.
good luck!
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You could use init.d scripts to do it automatically at boot.
But first you need to enable init.d (check here)

nrseife said:
I am the lucky owner of a new RAZR-i and have practically no real complaints (yet). However, I would like to move certain apps (some games use up huge amounts of storage: Asphalt Heat 7) to my sdcard (labeled "external1" on my razr-i).
That does not seem to be possible. In settings it offers to move stuff to the external card, but only movies etc, not apps. when I go to apps and select the game, it also does not offer any option and finally "App2SD" could not move it either.
There must be a way....Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Not really sure why you need to..... do you have 5Gb of apps????
Reason I ask is I have all my music on sd card, camera can be set to store directly to Sd card and if you've forgpt to do that when you fill phone like I did with a video the other day it asks if you want to transfer all videos and photos to SD card... Problem solved no messing about looking in options

Yes I do have more than 5GB of apps + sd data. and for me the problem is that the application is gonna try to store the data in the Sd card, and our main partition is called sdcard and external1 the sdcard so... all the data of the apps like need for speed, whatsapp, N.O.V.A ... is going to be stored in your internal memory because of that my phone memory was full in 48 hours.
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help me!!
xopendaz said:
Yes I do have more than 5GB of apps + sd data. and for me the problem is that the application is gonna try to store the data in the Sd card, and our main partition is called sdcard and external1 the sdcard so... all the data of the apps like need for speed, whatsapp, N.O.V.A ... is going to be stored in your internal memory because of that my phone memory was full in 48 hours.
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hello I tried using bind directory, but when I link the dorectorios and open a game simply does not recognize the link and I can not play anything that I start to request data, help! How Do I? Does init.d solved? I need an explanation. Also let me know which firmware have
thank you!

Directory Bind
josmel91 said:
hello I tried using bind directory, but when I link the dorectorios and open a game simply does not recognize the link and I can not play anything that I start to request data, help! How Do I? Does init.d solved? I need an explanation. Also let me know which firmware have
thank you!
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-Open Directory Bind
-Go to menu click Add new entry
-Enter in (data) path where you are gonna place the data en your external sd " /external1/ " where you want save it, the directory should be empty if doesn´t exists you will be asked to create it.
-Enter in mount(target) the path (directoy) of the data that you want to move to external1 , for example " /sdcard/Android/data/directory name "
-check Transfer files from target to data.
-click on Add.
Once the process has finished :
-Check your entry on the main menu by clicking on the check box.
-Click over the diskette on the right side to save it.
-Click on menu - Bind checked.
-Click on More - Backup Database. (I´m stil fighting to make the database backup) use to fail.
After this :
-Go to menu - preferences
- Check Bind on boot.
-Handle USB connection.
-Backup config file.
-use alternate db
Note: If you restart the phone and the database backup failed before, you will lose your bind directory, not the data, you will have to do it all over again, in other thread is explained how to backup the data base, because in my case, even with alternate db checked in directory bind settings, the data base backup is still failing.
Good luck!

xopendaz said:
-Open Directory Bind
-Go to menu click Add new entry
-Enter in (data) path where you are gonna place the data en your external sd " /external1/ " where you want save it, the directory should be empty if doesn´t exists you will be asked to create it.
-Enter in mount(target) the path (directoy) of the data that you want to move to external1 , for example " /sdcard/Android/data/directory name "
-check Transfer files from target to data.
-click on Add.
Once the process has finished :
-Check your entry on the main menu by clicking on the check box.
-Click over the diskette on the right side to save it.
-Click on menu - Bind checked.
-Click on More - Backup Database. (I´m stil fighting to make the database backup) use to fail.
After this :
-Go to menu - preferences
- Check Bind on boot.
-Handle USB connection.
-Backup config file.
-use alternate db
Note: If you restart the phone and the database backup failed before, you will lose your bind directory, not the data, you will have to do it all over again, in other thread is explained how to backup the data base, because in my case, even with alternate db checked in directory bind settings, the data base backup is still failing.
Good luck!
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excuse me what is your firmware?
---------- Post added at 03:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:04 PM ----------
I did everything I say, and the link is created all very bn!, but when I open the game seems to not link anything, the game asks me sd data again: '(I do not know what to do

stock ics 4.0.4 rooted
are you able to see the sdcard data on your external1 with Astro or other similar file manager? is a original not cracked app?
81.5.32002.XT890.retail.en.Eu
Do you see the files in both sides sdcard and external1?
How do you store the data in the phone? do you copy the data to external1 and then you move it to the sdcard and then you use directory bind? in this way for me it's working
Or you copy the data directly to the sdcard and after taht you use directory bind? in this way for me it' not working
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xopendaz said:
stock ics 4.0.4 rooted
are you able to see the sdcard data on your external1 with Astro or other similar file manager? is a original not cracked app?
81.5.32002.XT890.retail.en.Eu
Do you see the files in both sides sdcard and external1?
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hello
yes! I see them on both sides in external1 and sdcard but when I run a game sd data calls. sd data are always there but the game any game I ask.

How do you store the data in the phone? do you copy the data to external1 and then you move it to the sdcard and then you use directory bind? in this way for me it's working
Or you copy the data directly to the sdcard and after taht you use directory bind? in this way for me it' not working
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xopendaz said:
How do you store the data in the phone? do you copy the data to external1 and then you move it to the sdcard and then you use directory bind? in this way for me it's working
Or you copy the data directly to the sdcard and after taht you use directory bind? in this way for me it' not working
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I did what you told me but I served.
you tell me what version of bind directory you use?

version 0.2.0k
you have root acces right? the root button on directory bind appears green?
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I wish Motorola would let you install to the (real) SD card.
I can't really use Spotify, despite having bought a 64GB memory card. I've now had to limit the number of games I can install too.
I expect music and films purchased on Play will also be limited?
In fact, I'd rather use the 64GB card for apps and the internal storage for photos and video recording!!

I will try, hopefully work!

Sony Xperia ZR – Mount ExternalSD2InternalSD

Hi,
This is my first android device, so am pretty much a newbie for android.
Have created this mod to mount external SD card partition as internal partition.
I took pointers from a lot of threads on xda forums to get this working, so I feel bound to share it.
Note: Have only tested it with Android 4.1.
(I'm not responsible for any Damage to your phone. Use at your own risk.)
Note: This will likely result in data loss. Backup!
Required :
1. Root Access
2. init.d support click here
3. Root Browser click here
4. SManager click here
5. An sd card (duh!) (with class 10 SD cards preferable)
6. Some way to partition your SD Card (like MiniTool Partition Manager)
Install instructions:
1. Create two ‘fat32’ partitions on SD card(EDIT: PS: both partitions should be Primary). Your first partition will be mounted as normal extSd card, and your second partition will be mounted as internal SD Card for your apps. (I partitioned my 64GB(10^9 bytes) sd card with ~16 GB 1st partition and ~42 GB 2nd partition)
2. Copy and paste “mountSd” to etc/init.d folder. (If you don’t have such a folder, means you lack init.d support. click here and follow instructions to enable it) This script creates another mount point called ‘sdcard2’ and mounts current internal sd card there. It also tries to mount second partition to ‘sdcard0’ location, but seems to fail some times (as fat32 is not natively supported linux partition it seems, but could be wrong), so step 3 is required.
3. Copy ‘mountSdFailSafe.txt’ to your phone’s ‘/data’ folder. Now with ‘SManager’, register this file as script with ‘su’ and ‘boot’ selected. (click and hold script -> in context menu click ‘Open As..’ -> ‘Script/Executable’ -> Is Script = true, select ‘su’ and ‘boot’ buttons)
4. Restart.
This should do it. Once restarted, second partition will be shown as internal memory.
Note:
You will lose all app data and other app related customizations. You may be able to restore it by simply copy pasting ‘Android’ folder from ‘/storage/sdcard2’ to ‘/storage/sdcard0’. This has not been tested by me but should work theoretically (as I started with a blank phone, and so did not need to back up my app data). Or you could use Titanium Backup.
Some Issues that occur due to this mod:
I have been using this mod since the past 2 weeks, and the phone is quite stable with this mod.
The only issue I have faced is that when connected to PC (Windows 8) through USB, ‘My Computer’ keeps crashing unless and until you disconnect the phone. Otherwise it seems to be working fine. To circumvent this issue I have been using Samba to share files between PC and my phone.
Please share how it works out for you guys.
Other Notes:
I tried to get this working with ext4 partition, which has a +ves that it will not require step ‘3’ of install instructions and supports file sizes >4GB, but there are loads of permission issues happening, which I could not solve.
(Thought of setting “set GID” bit and then finding and adding all users to root group but failed. Also tried to set owner group ‘sdcard_rw’ without much success. May be someone who knows linux better may know how to solve this, Could not find much help on the forums as it seems others are facing a similar problem see more)
Thanks to:
For basic idea (PS: do not use the given method exactly as you will end up in a boot loop. For some reason, ‘sdcard1’ mount point has to be mounted by system only and can’t be mounted any other way, it seems.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180733
Edit:
Simplified installation if you do not care for easy accessibility to your orig internal memory:
Use this video tutorial by ashwin123:
The only exceptions are that, you need to partition your card,
and you have to use the file 'mountSdFailSafe.txt' instead of the file in the package mentioned by him.

Nice
Waiting for someone to test it n confirm it successfully works
Still here
N!geR -> E!ch0

NisJ said:
Hi,
This is my first android device, so am pretty much a newbie for android.
Have created this mod to mount external SD card partition as internal partition.
I took pointers from a lot of threads on xda forums to get this working, so I feel bound to share it.
Note: Have only tested it with Android 4.1.
(I'm not responsible for any Damage to your phone. Use at your own risk.)
Note: This will likely result in data loss. Backup!
Required :
1. Root Access
2. init.d support click here
3. Root Browser click here
4. SManager click here
5. An sd card (duh!) (with class 10 SD cards preferable)
6. Some way to partition your SD Card (like MiniTool Partition Manager)
Install instructions:
1. Create two ‘fat32’ partitions on SD card. Your first partition will be mounted as normal extSd card, and your second partition will be mounted as internal SD Card for your apps. (I partitioned my 64GB(10^9 bytes) sd card with ~16 GB 1st partition and ~42 GB 2nd partition)
2. Copy and paste “mountSd” to etc/init.d folder. (If you don’t have such a folder, means you lack init.d support. click here and follow instructions to enable it) This script creates another mount point called ‘sdcard2’ and mounts current internal sd card there. It also tries to mount second partition to ‘sdcard0’ location, but seems to fail some times (as fat32 is not natively supported linux partition it seems, but could be wrong), so step 3 is required.
3. Copy ‘mountSdFailSafe.txt’ to your phone’s ‘/data’ folder. Now with ‘SManager’, register this file as script with ‘su’ and ‘boot’ selected. (click and hold script -> in context menu click ‘Open As..’ -> ‘Script/Executable’ -> Is Script = true, select ‘su’ and ‘boot’ buttons)
4. Restart.
This should do it. Once restarted, second partition will be shown as internal memory.
Note:
You will lose all app data and other app related customizations. You may be able to restore it by simply copy pasting ‘Android’ folder from ‘/storage/sdcard2’ to ‘/storage/sdcard0’. This has not been tested by me but should work theoretically (as I started with a blank phone, and so did not need to back up my app data). Or you could use Titanium Backup.
Some Issues that occur due to this mod:
I have been using this mod since the past 2 weeks, and the phone is quite stable with this mod.
The only issue I have faced is that when connected to PC (Windows 8) through USB, ‘My Computer’ keeps crashing unless and until you disconnect the phone. Otherwise it seems to be working fine. To circumvent this issue I have been using Samba to share files between PC and my phone.
Please share how it works out for you guys.
Other Notes:
I tried to get this working with ext4 partition, which has a +ves that it will not require step ‘3’ of install instructions and supports file sizes >4GB, but there are loads of permission issues happening, which I could not solve.
(Thought of setting “set GID” bit and then finding and adding all users to root group but failed. Also tried to set owner group ‘sdcard_rw’ without much success. May be someone who knows linux better may know how to solve this, Could not find much help on the forums as it seems others are facing a similar problem see more)
Thanks to:
For basic idea (PS: do not use the given method exactly as you will end up in a boot loop. For some reason, ‘sdcard1’ mount point has to be mounted by system only and can’t be mounted any other way, it seems.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180733
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Am interested to try this but before I do, just wanted to check when you say data is lost, is it due to the lost of the original /data partition? Or just due to the sd card's partition?
What's the outcome when this is done, I mean do we have two data partitions one from the original phone's memory and another with the sdcard? And in the settings menu, will we get to choose to send apps over to sd? Thanks

grim_ripper said:
Am interested to try this but before I do, just wanted to check when you say data is lost, is it due to the lost of the original /data partition? Or just due to the sd card's partition?
What's the outcome when this is done, I mean do we have two data partitions one from the original phone's memory and another with the sdcard? And in the settings menu, will we get to choose to send apps over to sd? Thanks
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Your application data will be lost in a way, as orig internal sd card will be mounted to 'sdcard2' mount point(newly created). All your app data will be installed to your memory card's second partition, which is now the new internal sdcard. To access your orig data, you will have to go to it through a file manager, and apps or media scanner will not be able to access this memory any more.
The scripts provided will not format your internal memory.
Still apk files, dalvik cache etc, will still take up your original internal memory's space.
Partitioning your sd card will probably format it as well unless you take special precaution (ie. through shrink volume).
Hope it makes sense...?

NisJ said:
Your application data will be lost in a way, as orig internal sd card will be mounted to 'sdcard2' mount point(newly created). All your app data will be installed to your memory card's second partition, which is now the new internal sdcard. To access your orig data, you will have to go to it through a file manager, and apps or media scanner will not be able to access this memory any more.
The scripts provided will not format your internal memory.
Still apk files, dalvik cache etc, will still take up your original internal memory's space.
Partitioning your sd card will probably format it as well unless you take special precaution (ie. through shrink volume).
Hope it makes sense...?
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It makes sense, just am confused on how the system will still recognize the original storage when the sd card's storage is supposingly replacing it. Could you post a screen shot of your storage from settings?

grim_ripper said:
It makes sense, just am confused on how the system will still recognize the original storage when the sd card's storage is supposingly replacing it. Could you post a screen shot of your storage from settings?
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Here you go....
PS: third image shows that internal storage is still accessible, just not to apps. Only apk files, and other android files go there go there. sdcard2 in 4th image is newly created mount point for your orig internal storage, but is ignored by most of the apps...

NisJ said:
Here you go....
PS: third image shows that internal storage is still accessible, just not to apps. Only apk files, and other android files go there go there. sdcard2 in 4th image is newly created mount point for your orig internal storage, but is ignored by most of the apps...
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Can u do a tutorial video how to install this script bro?
Cuz the installation steps r bit complicated
Still here
N!geR -> E!ch0

NisJ said:
Here you go....
PS: third image shows that internal storage is still accessible, just not to apps. Only apk files, and other android files go there go there. sdcard2 in 4th image is newly created mount point for your orig internal storage, but is ignored by most of the apps...
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Phone keeps rebooting now, couldn't copy it to /etc/init.d
I think it has something to do with having data running in the background, now I don't know what to do with my phone
EDIT: Ok, manage to recover from the reboot state, had to deny root access to my file explorer. I think the reboot was caused when I set permission to write for /system. Anyway, everytime I keep trying to copy to /etc/init.d, I get a permission denied so am not sure what I should do now.

grim_ripper said:
Phone keeps rebooting now, couldn't copy it to /etc/init.d
I think it has something to do with having data running in the background, now I don't know what to do with my phone
EDIT: Ok, manage to recover from the reboot state, had to deny root access to my file explorer. I think the reboot was caused when I set permission to write for /system. Anyway, everytime I keep trying to copy to /etc/init.d, I get a permission denied so am not sure what I should do now.
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When ever you copy something to init.d it will reboot, or does it go into boot loop?
To check if it worked correctly, see if new mount point storage/sdcard2 was created..
EDIT: If it worked correctly, then you could move to next step.
else you could also skip it, and goto the next step of SManager, but in that case you will lose access to your original internal storage as it wont be mounted to sdcard2.

E!ch0 said:
Can u do a tutorial video how to install this script bro?
Cuz the installation steps r bit complicated
Still here
N!geR -> E!ch0
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Creating a video will take time at least til sat... prob more.
Will see if I can create a simplified install instructions once i reach home.

NisJ said:
When ever you copy something to init.d it will reboot, or does it go into boot loop?
To check if it worked correctly, see if new mount point storage/sdcard2 was created..
EDIT: If it worked correctly, then you could move to next step.
else you could also skip it, and goto the next step of SManager, but in that case you will lose access to your original internal storage as it wont be mounted to sdcard2.
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What happens is that everytime I try to mount /system as writable, it reboots and hence I can't copy either files to their designated location
EDIT: Also, now everytime I reboot, there's a popup that says USB connectivity has stopped, and if I go under settings->storage, settings fc. I'm thinking this has something to do with two partitions on the sd card so I hope it all goes away when this works or I revert back to as it was.
EDIT 2: So I managed to get all the files to the appropriate place using terminal and managed to get the script to run at boot. Alas, the phone doesn't detect my sdcard at all now and still throws the USB connectivity error at boot. Once I removed the sdcard, everything works alright. Also, I figured the solution to the reboot (haven't tested it yet as I wanted to resolve my sdcard first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317432
EDIT 3: Got the reboot solve, but the sdcard can't be read and I tried plugging it into my other phone, the first partition is only read. I can't get minitool to even find the 2nd partition. I am thinking I need to get a card reader to plug it into my laptop. Anyway, I went through your script and open the log file it used, says that there's an invalid argument for mount. Any idea?
Final Edit: Got it working! I had to re-partition my sdcard and made both partitions primary so maybe you might want to add that in OP as MiniTool by default selected the 2nd partition as logical

grim_ripper said:
What happens is that everytime I try to mount /system as writable, it reboots and hence I can't copy either files to their designated location
EDIT: Also, now everytime I reboot, there's a popup that says USB connectivity has stopped, and if I go under settings->storage, settings fc. I'm thinking this has something to do with two partitions on the sd card so I hope it all goes away when this works or I revert back to as it was.
EDIT 2: So I managed to get all the files to the appropriate place using terminal and managed to get the script to run at boot. Alas, the phone doesn't detect my sdcard at all now and still throws the USB connectivity error at boot. Once I removed the sdcard, everything works alright. Also, I figured the solution to the reboot (haven't tested it yet as I wanted to resolve my sdcard first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317432
EDIT 3: Got the reboot solve, but the sdcard can't be read and I tried plugging it into my other phone, the first partition is only read. I can't get minitool to even find the 2nd partition. I am thinking I need to get a card reader to plug it into my laptop. Anyway, I went through your script and open the log file it used, says that there's an invalid argument for mount. Any idea?
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Why are you trying to mount /system as rw?
for getting init.d support you just have to download the apk from mentioned thread and install it, and then fallow instruction in app.
you can mount root as rw with the foll command if you want, and that is exactly what is done in he scripts as well if you will check:
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
also to check if partition is created on sd card, type the command:
Code:
blkid
and see if
Code:
/dev/block/vold/179:34
is listed
if not post the output and i'll see what i can do.
grim_ripper said:
Final Edit: Got it working! I had to re-partition my sdcard and made both partitions primary so maybe you might want to add that in OP as MiniTool by default selected the 2nd partition as logical
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EDIT: Correct, you need both the partitions to be primary. got out of my mind when posting the tutorial.

NisJ said:
Why are you trying to mount /system as rw?
for getting init.d support you just have to download the apk from mentioned thread and install it, and then fallow instruction in app.
you can mount root as rw with the foll command if you want, and that is exactly what is done in he scripts as well if you will check:
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
also to check if partition is created on sd card, type the command:
Code:
blkid
and see if
Code:
/dev/block/vold/179:34
is listed
if not post the output and i'll see what i can do.
EDIT: Correct, you need both the partitions to be primary. got out of my mind when posting the tutorial.
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For whatever reason, my /etc folder is actually a link from /system/etc

Could you post a way to revert back? I think my apps are acting all funny now and just want to revert back to before. Thanks!

grim_ripper said:
Could you post a way to revert back? I think my apps are acting all funny now and just want to revert back to before. Thanks!
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The apps are behaving funny because you have lost their data as I had warned in the original post.
To fix do either of the foll:
1. reinstall app, and start fresh.
or
2. restore from Titanium backup if you had created...
or
3. copy paste 'Android' folder from sdcard2 if it is created to 'sdcard0'
To remove and revert, just delete the files from int.d, and stop scheduling it in SManger.
Note: to un schedule it from smanager, you first have to remove memory card, un schedule and then put in your memory card (this is coz when phone boots up, it is in standard way, with 8gb internal but, after script is executed SManager looses its data too.

How complicated will it be to make this compatible with 4.2.2?

grim_ripper said:
How complicated will it be to make this compatible with 4.2.2?
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Ideally should be possible, unless something has changed majorly, but I haven't tried it, as am waiting for OTA update. If it is not forth coming in 2-3 weeks, may be tempted to flash nordic rom and try.

NisJ said:
Ideally should be possible, unless something has changed majorly, but I haven't tried it, as am waiting for OTA update. If it is not forth coming in 2-3 weeks, may be tempted to flash nordic rom and try.
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I did try but nothing happened, am guessing it has permission issues or something on those lines

grim_ripper said:
I did try but nothing happened, am guessing it has permission issues or something on those lines
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Could you be more specific? Like system restarts etc...
Else in terminal try out what I Gave in post no 12 and give me what the output is for both the commands in the terminal.
Note: execute them with super user credentials.
Thanks

NisJ said:
Could you be more specific? Like system restarts etc...
Else in terminal try out what I Gave in post no 12 and give me what the output is for both the commands in the terminal.
Note: execute them with super user credentials.
Thanks
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on the 4.2.2 update, it doesnt recognize the second partition even if it is formatted to primary and set to active. there r definitely some updates done in that field and plus i cant get the init.d rights on the phone as the test.log file is absent in the data folder..no matter what i do i just cant get it straight with the present procedure. please try it on 4.2 and there r more frequent updates on the nordiac then the local version. so i decided to flash it rather than waiting for ota update

[Q] Restore symlink to external SD after update to 4.1.2 / V20B?

Hi guys, I updated my P880 to V20B and now have problems with using the external SD properly. I found it being mountend to storage/external_SD and I can read/write there. BUT: I can't set a folder on it as the backup location in Super Backup (as I could before), my LG notes aren't backed up automatically to the external SD location (as it was before), and I expect many similar problems to arise with time.
Formerly, the external SD was mounted to mnt/sdcard/external_sd, if I remember correctly. Now this symbolic link (?) is missing. When I performed the update and then first booted the updated device, I had the external SD removed to make sure my backups were safe. Might that be the reason for the missing link? My questions are:
1. Should I flash the kdz again with the SD card inserted? Or at least perform a factory reset?
2. Or could the link be created afterwards, preferrably without rooting my device? Would that solve the problem, at all?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Nothing?

How about formatting SD card ? Did you tryed that ? On 20a my card is read as storage/external_SD just fine.

dimi89 said:
How about formatting SD card ? Did you tryed that ? On 20a my card is read as storage/external_SD just fine.
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Hey dimi, thanks for the suggestion! However, I am afraid you didn't read my post very carefully. I wrote that I actually CAN read/write to my external SD. But I cannot set the path in applications like Super Backup (when I navigate to some folder on storage/external_SD, the button "Select this folder" is inactive). And I suspected it is because it is no subpath of mnt/sdcard anymore. Also, some apps like LG notes don't write/backup to the external SD by default any more, and some of them unfortunately are not configurable.
That's the reason why I thought creating a simbolic link for mnt/sdcard/external_sd (as it was before) might solve the problem. However, I am absolutely not sure of this (plus: how to achive it) and would be happy about an expert's opinion.

pegnose said:
Hey dimi, thanks for the suggestion! However, I am afraid you didn't read my post very carefully. I wrote that I actually CAN read/write to my external SD. But I cannot set the path in applications like Super Backup (when I navigate to some folder on storage/external_SD, the button "Select this folder" is inactive). And I suspected it is because it is no subpath of mnt/sdcard anymore. Also, some apps like LG notes don't write/backup to the external SD by default any more, and some of them unfortunately are not configurable.
That's the reason why I thought creating a simbolic link for mnt/sdcard/external_sd (as it was before) might solve the problem. However, I am absolutely not sure of this (plus: how to achive it) and would be happy about an expert's opinion.
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In super backup i couldnt set path since first day i downloaded it and today i tryed again with new version of app and it is the same.SMS backup is working fine so i suppoust it is problem with app (maybe in pro version it will work).

dimi89 said:
In super backup i couldnt set path since first day i downloaded it and today i tryed again with new version of app and it is the same.SMS backup is working fine so i suppoust it is problem with app (maybe in pro version it will work).
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I can set path anywhere on storage/sdcard, but not on storage/external_SD. Also the Notes application doesn't back up to external SD, as it did before. Coincidence? Maybe. I will find out with time using other applications.
Am I right that creating symbolic links without root access is not possible?

pegnose said:
I can set path anywhere on storage/sdcard, but not on storage/external_SD. Also the Notes application doesn't back up to external SD, as it did before. Coincidence? Maybe. I will find out with time using other applications.
Am I right that creating symbolic links without root access is not possible?
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Idk about creating links but it is not coincidence that you and me cant select any folder on external_SD i guess it is app bug or maybe as i sad premium version requirement.

dimi89 said:
Idk about creating links but it is not coincidence that you and me cant select any folder on external_SD i guess it is app bug or maybe as i sad premium version requirement.
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It worked on 4.0.3.

Hi again, I made some progress here!
I managed to create a symbolic link to my external SD (I am on a rooted CM10.1.3 now), but that didn't help. I could use it within the ES file explorer for navigation, but not within Super Backup (didn't see it). So I tried to MOUNT the external SD instead. Here is the command I finally used:
mount -t vfat -o rw,umask=000 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /data/media/0/extSD
No errors, I can access my SD via this mount point with ES file explorer, and I can navigate into this top folder now with Super Backup and select it as backup location. BUT I can't actually back up here, as Super Backup can't write, I guess ("backup failed").
I was hoping that this "umask" parameter would do the trick, but unfortunately not. Interestingly: when I navigate with Super Backup to this new backup location, all the subfolders of my external SD card appear as files, not folders.
I am pretty sure, it is nearly done and only has to do with setting the right permissions.
Does anyone have an idea what I could try now?
EDIT: I just unmounted, applied "chmod 777 /data/media/0/extSD" and remounted again (this time with "rwx" parameter). No changes.

Ok, I am back to 4.0.3 ICS and everything is fine.