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[Q] Flash custom rom without custom recovery? possible?

Hi!
I've succesfully rootet my SGS. testet wtih terminal, and i got the # sign.
Also, I have suoer users installed, and granted access to ROM manager, e.g.
Now, I would like to flash darky's custom ROM. And usually, i would boot into custom recovery menu and wipe, and apply zip from sd. (this was on my HTC).
Well, this is causing me some problems. I would rather not use Odin, as it seem a bit unsafe but I installed ROM manager, and flashed Clockwork Mod recovery. Now, when I reboot into custom recovery I get the stock android recovery, though ROM manager, says my current version of clowckwork mod is installed, and all went succesfull.
Now, my question is. Can i rename the zip file update.zip and flash with the stock android recovery anyway?

When you flash clockwork i think it just puts a .zip file on the sd card so youbshould try flashing the custom recovery through stock recovery. If not then ODIN is the way to go which can be perfectly safe if done properly.
*You have to select reinstall packages i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734166
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Tuptup said:
When you flash clockwork i think it just puts a .zip file on the sd card so youbshould try flashing the custom recovery through stock recovery. If not then ODIN is the way to go which can be perfectly safe if done properly.
*You have to select reinstall packages i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734166
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Thanks
I never get into clockwork mod, so I guess I dont get the option to reinstall packages... The only option I have beside wiping and reboot is to apply update.zip from sdcard in android recovery. But I don't think there is any update.zip on my sdcard. not last i checked at least. Guess Ill have to go with Odin then :/

Usually the option to reinstall packages is on stock recovery. I might be wrong but odin is easy to do if you get the right firmware for your phone. Sorry i ciuldnt help more.
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Tuptup said:
Usually the option to reinstall packages is on stock recovery. I might be wrong but odin is easy to do if you get the right firmware for your phone. Sorry i ciuldnt help more.
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Thanks again. I get wiser by the hour
I think im on android recovery (3e) as I recall, perhaps they removed it
I was wandering. I found the clockworkmod.zip /recovery_update.zip on the sd-card. if I move this to root of sdcard and rename to update.zip, can I then flash it via android recovery with the "apply update.zip from sdcard" function, or is this not for the purpose?

That might work, you may aswell try butif not try looking at the url i posted and see if it helps. If not then im sorry for wasting your time :S
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Tuptup said:
That might work, you may aswell try butif not try looking at the url i posted and see if it helps. If not then im sorry for wasting your time :S
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thanks, but i think Im caught in between... i cant choose reinstall packages, and I need to get back to stock kernel...
got download mode to work now, and think I know what to do from here. thanks for the link and response

Finally - reverted back to stock android recovery 2e and flash clockworkmod recovery.... but - a new problem... when in clockworkmod, i need to choose zip from sd card, when i go into this, and choose external sd, it says no files
what to do? the files are there, when I put in the sd card in the PC the files are there...

Not entirely sure but i think you're meant to put the .zip on the internal sd. If not then maybe the sd card is not fat32 format. This is only speculation :S
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Nandroid Backup cycle?

Hello
today I bought a captivate with eclair 2.1
baseband: I897UCJH7
Kernel: 2.6.29
i was going to flash cyanogen rom but I am trying to do a nandroid backup but it will not allow me to go into nandroi? I select backup rom and it goes to the recovery screen, i select reinstall and basically it resets the phone. Been trying the same thing for the past few times, thanks

Stop using rom manager. Use recovery
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do you mean use nandroid through an img file?

No. He means to use CWM Recovery.
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swaneon said:
do you mean use nandroid through an img file?
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bornjamerican said:
No. He means to use CWM Recovery.
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yeah, dont use rom manager at all. boot into recovery, run your backup from clockwork recovery mod...

much thanks, have it now!

Can not flash CWM :(

Hi I'm trying to install miui for my sister in law on her Galaxy S but I can't seem to install CWM.
I've downloaded rom manager from the market clicked on flash recovery (fist option) then from the list chose samsung galaxy s. The next I clicked on reboot to recovery but when it boots into it, it says at the top Android system recovery (3e)
What am I doing wrong???? :s
PS I don't have a memory card inside my phone trying to install via the internal sd storage. The also I don't have access to my pc so need to do it off my phone. Please any help appreciated thank you.
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When you boot into recovery press the buttons a couple of times. Ie, 3button combo to boot, release all the buttons and press the 3buttons again. I have had the same problems on 3sgs's and this seemed to work on them.

No luck
Any one else have any ideas. Please any help is appreciated.
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Buy a jig usb..It put your bricked phone on download mode in only 2 seconds!

Nezys said:
Buy a jig usb..It put your bricked phone on download mode in only 2 seconds!
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I don't think he's mentioned not getting into download mode.... Confused by your reply.
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I have clockworkmod recovery installed and when i click on reboot to recovery or use the 3 button configuration it only boots into the android system recovery.
I can not for the life of me get the Cwm recovery to boot up.
Is there a kernel I can flash with rom manager to get cwm installed
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It's definitely rooted? What rom is it currently on?
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Darkys rom. Plus i have titanium backup installed and backed up my apps. Superuser is working perfectly.
I want to install miui the official rom.
Anyway I can without having to use a pc??
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If it's on Darky's rom, it should have cwm already! Not sure if you can do it from your phone now mate.
Once you've got the cwm sorted (hopefully it's a gingerbread rom) you need to format system, data and cache, then flash Miui.
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Ahhh.
Flash darky RE via Odin. But if you are running darky kernel you should have cwm. Uninstall cwm app and try again.

ichigo786 said:
Hi I'm trying to install miui for my sister in law on her Galaxy S but I can't seem to install CWM.
I've downloaded rom manager from the market clicked on flash recovery (fist option) then from the list chose samsung galaxy s. The next I clicked on reboot to recovery but when it boots into it, it says at the top Android system recovery (3e)
What am I doing wrong???? :s
PS I don't have a memory card inside my phone trying to install via the internal sd storage. The also I don't have access to my pc so need to do it off my phone. Please any help appreciated thank you.
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If i understand well, you can't use odin because you don't have PC,right? Well:make sure that your phone is rooted. Go to market and get that application : "sgs kernel flashar " the one by neldar.
Then download a kernel for your firmware, and make sure you download a tar file or obtain a zimage file. Flash it with the application mentioned, you don't need any cwm. After that you flash the new kernel you should have a cwm installed.
If i understand wrong I'm sorry.
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[Q] why is cwm recovery not working?

I have installed cwm on my friends phone (galaxy mini) via odin. When i booted into recovery it said he couldn't mount /cache/recovery. So i installed root explorer on his phone and i saw there are no files in that folder! In my phone there is a file... so i was wondering if someone has installed cwm (i believe it was 5.2.7) and knows how to solve this. Maybe i could try using this file of someone else with same recovery.
Long story short: does anybody know a solution or does anybody wants to upload this file?
Sorry for bad english if i made any mistakes
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simple way is to download file and usb to phone, the zip file. Do Not unzip it.

rickvrolings said:
I have installed cwm on my friends phone (galaxy mini) via odin. When i booted into recovery it said he couldn't mount /cache/recovery. So i installed root explorer on his phone and i saw there are no files in that folder! In my phone there is a file... so i was wondering if someone has installed cwm (i believe it was 5.2.7) and knows how to solve this. Maybe i could try using this file of someone else with same recovery.
Long story short: does anybody know a solution or does anybody wants to upload this file?
Sorry for bad english if i made any mistakes
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stock?
Dont use CWM on stock if u dont want to flash rom
It will give problem

Well... first i had tried installed cwm using a normal .zip file. Same problem. Then was when i actually installed via odin. After that i gave up and asked for help here. So i think it isnt the fould of the recovery. So could anyone upload the file in the next location, just to try : /cache/recovery
So i can put the file inside this folder and maybe it will work again.
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R.A.G.E said:
stock?
Dont use CWM on stock if u dont want to flash rom
It will give problem
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rickvrolings said:
Well... first i had tried installed cwm using a normal .zip file. Same problem. Then was when i actually installed via odin. After that i gave up and asked for help here. So i think it isnt the fould of the recovery. So could anyone upload the file in the next location, just to try : /cache/recovery
So i can put the file inside this folder and maybe it will work again.
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Dont use custom recovery on stock, if you want install custom rom, just wipe data/cache and it will mount system, data

So i shouldn't use cwm to install rom? Indeed, installing a new rom is the goal
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rickvrolings said:
So i shouldn't use cwm to install rom? Indeed, installing a new rom is the goal
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If u use CWM for flashing rom then go for it:good:
Try flashing a rom and see if the problem is still there.

R.A.G.E said:
If u use CWM for flashing rom then go for it:good:
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But before i want to install a rom, i want to make backup... and as long as i have this problem i cant make backup or install anything
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rickvrolings said:
But before i want to install a rom, i want to make backup... and as long as i have this problem i cant make backup or install anything
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U cant backup stock rom AFAIK.
Edit:Just so u know i dont have \cache\recovery folder
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try flash this one with odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=654124&d=1310595425 CMW V4 by tj style

lackhoo said:
try flash this one with odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=654124&d=1310595425 CMW V4 by tj style
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never flashed single file via odin before. i think i just need to deselect one package. but what kind of thing is it.. boot, phone, pda, csc or efs?
or do i need to select one package and just chose a .ops file i use on an other recovery?

rickvrolings said:
never flashed single file via odin before. i think i just need to deselect one package. but what kind of thing is it.. boot, phone, pda, csc or efs?
or do i need to select one package and just chose a .ops file i use on an other recovery?
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Here is the guide for flash via odin v4.0.0.5
yagyagaire.blogspot.com/2011/09/installing-clock-work-mod-recovery-in.html?m=1
Then this if u want
yagyagaire.blogspot.com/2012/02/clockwork-mod-touch-for-galaxy-mini-gt.html?m=1
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rickvrolings said:
Well... first i had tried installed cwm using a normal .zip file. Same problem. Then was when i actually installed via odin. After that i gave up and asked for help here. So i think it isnt the fould of the recovery. So could anyone upload the file in the next location, just to try : /cache/recovery
So i can put the file inside this folder and maybe it will work again.
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2 question: 1. which firmware and version you have? 2. you are succeded to install the cwm from stock recovery with a flashable zip package?
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lackhoo said:
try flash this one with odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=654124&d=1310595425 CMW V4 by tj style
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EVIL THOR said:
2 question: 1. which firmware and version you have? 2. you are succeded to install the cwm from stock recovery with a flashable zip package?
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1. firmware 2.3.5
2. yes, cwm is installed but i apparently i count mount system or data (just found out about that). had this same problem now with three different versions of cwm (also tried al the version you guys sent me).... so the problem is in the phone or i am just dump...
p.s. very suprised to get so much replys within a day! amazing

R.A.G.E said:
U cant backup stock rom AFAIK.
Edit:Just so u know i dont have \cache\recovery folder
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Have any way to make cwm work with stock? The nandroid backup is useful, and dont like andro-id or emanoN
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don't worry error in mounting cache is normal, you can use it safely for installing and wiping

However also in the my stock recovery give a error in the cache partition but to me give the error of unmounting, says unmount(/cache); attempt 1 unknow error=0 rc=0, and later i must and will inform about this error.
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anyway people. nobody knows a solution for my mounting problem? as far as i know is it impossible to instal a rom if the system cant mount?!?!
well. i tried installing rom anyway, just as somebody said i should do. and now my phone soft bricked a bit. i can get in recovery and download mode. but when i boot normally i just get samsung logo and after that i get a white screen!?!?!
fast solution?

rickvrolings said:
anyway people. nobody knows a solution for my mounting problem? as far as i know is it impossible to instal a rom if the system cant mount?!?!
well. i tried installing rom anyway, just as somebody said i should do. and now my phone soft bricked a bit. i can get in recovery and download mode. but when i boot normally i just get samsung logo and after that i get a white screen!?!?!
fast solution?
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Wipe data cache?
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Great! Thanks. I tried reinstal the rom. But now i wiped cache before and after installation and now everything is working now. My friend has galaxy mini running on kang ics. Thanks for all the help guys.
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[Q] cwm/twrp

hello i have cwm on the phone as recovery but id like to put on twrp so my question is doi have to take off cwm first (if so how) and then install twrp or can i just install twrp and it will replce cwm? i have the n version of phone running dmodv6 all help will be appreciated-i did try the goo manager but it didnt work for me also which twrp would be best for this phone?

ppm48 said:
hello i have cwm on the phone as recovery but id like to put on twrp so my question is doi have to take off cwm first (if so how) and then install twrp or can i just install twrp and it will replce cwm? i have the n version of phone running dmodv6 all help will be appreciated-i did try the goo manager but it didnt work for me also which twrp would be best for this phone?
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you can flash twrp and it will replace cwm and vice versa.
i changed from twrp to cwm only by flashing it over, because twrp caues problems (backups were damaged or not recognized - never had such problems with cwm).
HTH
JackoMJ

Ok thank you for the advise will look for twrp and see which is best for this device
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JackoMJ said:
you can flash twrp and it will replace cwm and vice versa.
i changed from twrp to cwm only by flashing it over, because twrp caues problems (backups were damaged or not recognized - never had such problems with cwm).
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but sir tyson says twrp is better?

They both work fine, but I prefer TWRP for more advanced features.
Did you by any chance rename your backup-folders with spaces in them?
That would explain why they weren't found by recovery.
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İ think twpr is better when iwas at cwm it doesnt wipe good. İ have to flash orjinal rom after 3 or 4 flashing because of reboots .but after twpr there is no need to flash orginal rom.
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tys0n said:
They both work fine, but I prefer TWRP for more advanced features.
Did you by any chance rename your backup-folders with spaces in them?
That would explain why they weren't found by recovery.
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i used both modes. I know that spaces are forbidden so i didn´t use them or rename anything.
But the fact is that two times twrp produced a corrupt backup i couldn´t reflash.
Never had such problems with cwm (but the same with cwm touch :crying
HTH
JackoMJ
p.s. thanks tys0n for the incredible greyandroid bootlogo

now i have TWRP another question is this if i do just a data backup and install a new rom can i restore that data backup to the new rom and have all my apps back up again????

ppm48 said:
now i have TWRP another question is this if i do just a data backup and install a new rom can i restore that data backup to the new rom and have all my apps back up again????
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You can use nandroid manager from store to install apps and data . İt is very usefull for me.

Ok will try it thank you
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