http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?
"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
gtrab said:
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
gtrab said:
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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That's not good enough from Sony. Unless they aren't trying to compete in 2013 and just wanna make a quick buck.
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Nimche said:
gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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Let's give sony a chance this time buddy. Even I did since they have a change in leadership(CEO) just now so things may change. :fingers-crossed:
Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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AntonyStark said:
Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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barondebxl said:
That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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S4 isn't launched yet, n AFAIK , m7 has 4.1.2 too.
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S4 isn't launched yet
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Really?
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I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.
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I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.
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That would be good too.
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"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'
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what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'
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Yes, no worries, I understood that. I also tried to say: I too think they should release it with 4.2
Also looking at their pre production phone, their software looks pretty bad, so I don't think it would matter with "buggy" 4.2 or the base they've been developing it on. Atm their base looks bad, so either they fix it in two months, or they rebase it om 4.2
The thing is that: this is their flagship phone, 4.2 has been out for a while, 2 months is still a long time, they have a lot of Sony devs, so I still don't see how releasing a flagship in 2013 with dated android is a wise choice.
This seems to be their standard though: dated android. They did this with the x10 or whatever it was called, and i won't be surprised if they do it again now. But hopefully the new management is improved and we'll se updates in timely matter. Also if they keep the community support up, it won't matter since it will have dev support
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gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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XDA named Sony "2012 OEM of the year" for a reason, and that means a lot to me.
They are changing, listening, officialy unlocking bootloaders, sticking to their update pathway, helping the devs community a lot, etc.
I believe the release of 4.1.2 is a marketing strategy.
Releasing 4.1.2 as initial firmware core and updating it to 4.2 then the next generation of android would make it look like they'll be providing subsequent updates. While if they release 4.2 as an initial firmware and update it to next android soon that would only look like they provided a single update which would invoke another rant from users like
"Sony promised 18months of support yet they only released 1 OS update!!!"
"Sony only released 1 update on their flagship phone they just release a device and loses interest on it after sales."
So yeah... if they make the initial OS 4.1.2 then that would make it 2 major updates while if they release 4.2 as initial OS that would only make 1 major update.
Like the logic says... Any number greater than 1 = many. :angel:
barondebxl said:
That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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As it says by the time S4 launched Xperia Z will have 4.2.
CnC-ROCK said:
http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?
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The phone would have been in testing prior to 4.2's release... so early internal builds would have been based on 4.1.x anyway - so I can see why it's launching with 4.1. They would want to be on the ball with the 4.2 launch,,,, if it gets pushed back then people looking at buying this phone 3-6 months after launch are going to be wary about future updates.
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"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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Why strange? Show me an example of another device other than a Nexus launching with 4.2 in the same timeframe?
Show me an example of a device other than a Nexus or the Transformer tablets getting ICS prior to March or so of 2012? Show me an example of one that got an update prior to April/May or so that wasn't an *utter epic steaming turd*? All of the Transformer tablets first ICS updates were poor, Galaxy S II ICS was a steaming pile of **** for months... Hell, if you've got a carrier branded device it STILL is...
Not to mention 4.2 is one of the more buggy releases from Google, are there any devices apart from Nexus devices officially running 4.2 yet?
Related
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2012/12...id-4-1-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/#more-7041
O rly? Other manufacturers already updated their newest devices... It seems that Sony keeps their level. Late upgrades, welcome again!
Great news, but dont forget that if you have a branded phone it be more like april or may than february or march.
But as soon as those first generic updates hit the servers I am sure we will be uploading them here for everyone to enjoy!
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Q1 2013 for JB was the earliest date always for xperia T, so its not really late..very nearly early actually
Couldn't a branded phone just flash a JB. ftf on release?
By that time
By that time I wouldn't be surprised if Google is announcing key lime pie or a newer iteration of jb
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By that time I wouldn't be surprised if Google is announcing key lime pie or a newer iteration of jb
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Thats why you all should help the aosp teams as much as possible so you dont have to wait for a company to roll out updates when they feel like it.. ie a year late.
4.2 is nothing, seriously.
4.1 is a huge thing. As long Sony gets us to 4.1 im happy. Other than 5.0 i dont know. Cause 4.2 doesnt offer much features when companies like samsung, sony, etc.. applies their own skin/features on top of it, it pretty much does the same thing as 4.2. except for lockscreen, updates for google now.
to me, it just seems lile Google is running out of ideas.
To me it seems that Sony releases way too many models.
I would love if they could cut down on the hysterical mass of releases and focus on a fewer amount of models, but I guess thats just a wish. After all, they won't make any money from releasing the latest android update to all their older phones, but by selling new ones.
It's a bit wierd that they couldn't release the Xperia T/TX/V with 4.1 to begin with. 4.1 isn't that new any longer.
My old Xperia Arc was absolutely awesome with CM10, like a new phone. I could just imagine how great my Xperia V would run with 4.1/4.2!
I agree
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Thats why you all should help the aosp teams as much as possible so you dont have to wait for a company to roll out updates when they feel like it.. ie a year late.
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I've asked, given ideas, and shared my thoughts but it seems a lot of people here think the bootloader is almost impossible to unlock that we've settled for suped up stock roms. (I'm a TL user)
Even Sony is known for slow OS updates, I still prefer their very nice-looking phone over a higher-spec ugly phone LOL(looking at you Samsung). And on-screen buttons FTW.
But of course, all boils down to personal preference.
And btw, my TX screen display is gorgeous especially when compared side by side to my Nexus 4, when looking at the same image files I put on both. Only positive to N4 is fast update(therefore more fancy goodies), other than that, TX beats it.
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It's a bit wierd that they couldn't release the Xperia T/TX/V with 4.1 to begin with. 4.1 isn't that new any longer.
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The development life cycle for something as complicated as our phone is quite long. Generally the hardware gets a first run design and then the firmware guys get going on the initial prototypes. They'll use the latest base-OS version they can (normally) but don't underestimate the amount of work it is to move from one Android version to another. They won't have infinite resources!
Agree, of course. Yet I feel compelled to mention, that the korean gigant has 4.1 out since a while for devices released not that long before ours. Well, the T at least.
So while your statement still applies, relatively, Sony is describeable as slow.
Isn't the Xperia V supposed to be launched in the US with jelly bean in January?
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Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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augie7107 said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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They can't because of the regions. They could do that for the US, for example, but aside that Sony has got a LOT of different customizations to prepare, and it's completely impossible to do all of them at the same time.
augie7107 said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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A lot of mobile companies use generic deadlines for the same type of upgrades... It's very, very common.
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A lot of mobile companies use generic deadlines for the same type of upgrades... It's very, very common.
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I understand the facts posted here and by the above post but I have been using Sony (Ericsson) devices for ten years and their rollout of an upgrade is always late and drama filled. Poor communication, staggered releases and no change logs just complicate the process and alienate customers.
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I understand the facts posted here and by the above post but I have been using Sony (Ericsson) devices for ten years and their rollout of an upgrade is always late and drama filled. Poor communication, staggered releases and no change logs just complicate the process and alienate customers.
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Which SE no longer applies....
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Which SE no longer applies....
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So your assumption is that Sony's takeover will eradicate the existing update rollout issues? I'm afraid that is quite naive. I owned the Xperia S prior to this device, which was a "Sony" device, and watched the upgrade take six months to complete and some regions still don't have 4.0.4.
In any event, best wishes for a happy holiday season to all.
Xperia j also upgradable to 4 .1
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Since Sony been releasing alot of devices and we still in begning of 2013 do you think that we going to be dropped like 2011 series or be delayed this long as xperia s users? Any idea or info for me im tottaly sure that our series was a flop for Sony uz they releasing a midrange series just few months after our series i dunno i just wanted a stable jellybean not buggy ics like what happened with last year flagship
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Well maybe Sony is planning a 5.0 release but is not saying anything for now.
We have good CPU and 1GB of RAM. We don't have 4 cores and 2GB. SGS III has 4 cores and 1GB RAM too and it will be updated to 5.0.
Samsung announced 5.0 for some of its Galaxy devices. Some of them will stay at 4.2.2 and some of them will be updated to 5.0 for sure.
We have to wait. Some of us just received 4.1.2 and it's still full of bugs and glitches. Let Sony fix these problems first and then think about the possibility of receiving the update to next version.
I am not sure what you mean by v5.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Future_versions
Let me take my cristal ball :laugh:
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Well maybe Sony is planning a 5.0 release but is not saying anything for now.
We have good CPU and 1GB of RAM. We don't have 4 cores and 2GB. SGS III has 4 cores and 1GB RAM too and it will be updated to 5.0.
Samsung announced 5.0 for some of its Galaxy devices. Some of them will stay at 4.2.2 and some of them will be updated to 5.0 for sure.
We have to wait. Some of us just received 4.1.2 and it's still full of bugs and glitches. Let Sony fix these problems first and then think about the possibility of receiving the update to next version.
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but peopl are saying thats the new android ver is COmming in aprox 3 months dont you think sony will be delayed so much maybe will have to leave our tx behind?
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I am not sure what you mean by v5.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Future_versions
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no thats not official yet but thats totaly 100% expecting and surely =) its KeylimePie
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Let me take my cristal ball :laugh:
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=D =D
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but peopl are saying thats the new android ver is COmming in aprox 3 months dont you think sony will be delayed so much maybe will have to leave our tx behind?
no thats not official yet but thats totaly 100% expecting and surely =) its KeylimePie
=D =D
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I'm saying this is too far fetched. We would never officially get 5.0. Sony if famous for releasing devices with outdated firmware. I mean the Z was released with 4.1 and still hasn't got 4.2. the GS3 got it on Feb. AFAIK
And currently that is their flagship. Not us
Also you can't blame Sony for their delayed releases because their firmware is so far away from pure AOSP. They do put a lot of work and themeing into it.
I hate those people proclaiming like Sony's CEO, that "Xperia T will never get Android 5.0" etc. This kind of bullcrap, one sided, motion, is pure nonsense and childish. Those people must be removed and banned from XDA.
And the Galaxy S3 did not receive the 4.2 update. Do not spread rumours to gain personal fame.
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I hate those people proclaiming like Sony's CEO, that "Xperia T will never get Android 5.0" etc. This kind of bullcrap, one sided, motion, is pure nonsense and childish. Those people must be removed and banned from XDA.
And the Galaxy S3 did not receive the 4.2 update. Do not spread rumours to gain personal fame.
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My sincere apologies for the s3 4.2 thing. My mistake. Regardless the Nexus 4 came out last November with 4.2. BUT sony released Z a month ago with only 4.1
And as for your other bull****. Try and get me banned will you? I am only being realistic. One sided? Buddy even I have Xperia T, so I'd love an update too
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My sincere apologies for the s3 4.2 thing. My mistake. Regardless the Nexus 4 came out last November with 4.2. BUT sony released Z a month ago with only 4.1
And as for your other bull****. Try and get me banned will you? I am only being realistic. One sided? Buddy even I have Xperia T, so I'd love an update too
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Ok. Give any form of evidence, any, that points that Xperia T will not get Android 5.0.
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Ok. Give any form of evidence, any, that points that Xperia T will not get Android 5.0.
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None. But I know about Sony release cycles. Hence I am deducing. I do not like false hope. But since you are so keen about it.
Give any form of evidence, any, that points that Xperia T will get Android 5.0.
PS I am not challenging you or any ****. So chill
Tottaly agree with you disturpor
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There is nothing quite like having decent hardware run on the latest version of software, where the latter would be useful in squeezing out every possible ounce of performance from the former. Well, having said that, we bring you word that there is new firmware (9.1.A.1.138) which has been certified for the Sony Xperia T (also known as the LT30p) and the Xperia TX (aka LT29i). Sony Mobile claims that this update for both devices is set to arrive from April onwards, although I am quite sure that the pegged April 1st date is not an attempt to pull a fast one on consumers.
This new firmware will also see the introduction of Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean to the Sony Xperia TX, as owners of this particular smartphone model were said to have been waiting for far too long for some Jelly Bean goodness. Apart from that, it is said that the update will bring along with it a fix for the problem that users have suffered from when running the Walkman app on Jelly Bean firmware. All’s well that ends well, no?
I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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All’s well that ends well, no?
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I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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skip jb 4.2 since its not really a huuuge update and then let them just work on andorid 5.0 thats what i think will probs happen hopfully we get 5.0 anways
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I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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Google hasn't even released details of Android 5.0, how do you expect the manufacturers to comment on something that hasn't completed development.
There's going to be so much hate from the other TX users, especially some "I TOLD YOU SO!" replies.
Sigh***...I just hope this will fix the OTHER Walkman bug, where music stops playing completely while browsing on the internet
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There's going to be so much hate from the other TX users, especially some "I TOLD YOU SO!" replies.
Sigh***...I just hope this will fix the OTHER Walkman bug, where music stops playing completely while browsing on the internet
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ah! I've had that issue happen to me on ICS! (not tested as such in JB..)
While browsing, the music player quits and it seems like a reset since it looses which track it was playing. Posted this on the Sony forum...typical reply..try reset/repair and it behaved same afterwards. no other reply.. (they seem not to be able to replicate the issue..which happens most of the time anywayz)
i really regret buying the tx though i like it too much.the update is very frustrating.i should have opted for the xperia z instead.:fingers-crossed:
Xperia Z huh?
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i really regret buying the tx though i like it too much.the update is very frustrating.i should have opted for the xperia z instead.:fingers-crossed:
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actually owners of the xperia Tx are just Few lucky people who got this Ultra Sexy design + Free from Hardware problems + best screen ever+Letting you know Xperia Z also suffering from SOD and am sure you dont wanna losse your phone after you get it by first charges xD
and here is the source =) http://www.gsmarena.com/some_sony_xperia_z_handsets_reportedly_suffering_sudden_death-news-5738.php
just be Proud of your tx its a Longterm mobile for me =)
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skip jb 4.2 since its not really a huuuge update and then let them just work on andorid 5.0 thats what i think will probs happen hopfully we get 5.0 anways
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We would never officially get 5.0. Period. And 4.2.2 IS a big update as there are many things that aren't available in 4.1 and considering Sony, they need to fix the Walkman bug and sound quality and sound level. 5.0 is too far away. There won't be a 5.0 device around until the end of the year (I presume).
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We would never officially get 5.0. Period. And 4.2.2 IS a big update as there are many things that aren't available in 4.1 and considering Sony, they need to fix the Walkman bug and sound quality and sound level. 5.0 is too far away. There won't be a 5.0 device around until the end of the year (I presume).
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Why wouldn't be get Android 5.0? I assume that it will be released at the end of the year, as ICS was with the Gnex.
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Why wouldn't be get Android 5.0? I assume that it will be released at the end of the year, as ICS was with the Gnex.
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Let me direct your attention to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39398406
Also Nexus would always be the first to get a new firmware. Doesn't mean we would. Unless.. Sony decides to release their own Nexus!
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ah! I've had that issue happen to me on ICS! (not tested as such in JB..)
While browsing, the music player quits and it seems like a reset since it looses which track it was playing. Posted this on the Sony forum...typical reply..try reset/repair and it behaved same afterwards. no other reply.. (they seem not to be able to replicate the issue..which happens most of the time anywayz)
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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thanks, though the bug i mentioned is, it quiting while browsing...not the pause bug while screen is off..
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thanks, though the bug i mentioned is, it quiting while browsing...not the pause bug while screen is off..
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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Actually, they should still be the same problems that my TX is having. Maybe I'll give that a shot, load some songs, and run it. If it still doesn't work, I'll just continue using my Walkman Z :good:
Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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Agree with you entirely! This why I kept saying Official KeyLimePie is a dream. They just keep releasing new devices until they overwhelm the market and the current owners feel like their devices are old. Flagship or not, this is what happens. Some people got really pissed off with me too in the other thread
Samsung doesn't support developers like Sony does, but at least they are generous enough to upgrade the firmware.
Damn im so sad now hopefully sony can change its ways! One of us xda people have to get hired as like lead software dudes and change them lol
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Damn im so sad now hopefully sony can change its ways! One of us xda people have to get hired as like lead software dudes and change them lol
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Haha if they are willing to hire lazy ass bums I'm up for it!
AW: Sony Xperia T And Xperia TX Gets New Firmware This April
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Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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mhh okay we have the walkman bug (I don't but others have), I can't find many other issues (nothing), I had a s3 and they released many updates for jb in a row but not because they are more userfriendly, it was because each new version had to fix some new bugs and they were much more annoying.
also jb on the s3 is more laggy than on xperia t, believe me. you can always say "why do contacts not instantly open on my t" but with an s3 you can be happy when they are open under 5 seconds and this on a Quadcore phone ...
who knows if we get 4.2 officially, even if not the port will be faster and more bug free than the official 4.2 from Samsung, I'm sure. but you are right, we have to get official 4.2 because we have bought an expensive flagship device.
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mhh okay we have the walkman bug (I don't but others have), I can't find many other issues (nothing), I had a s3 and they released many updates for jb in a row but not because they are more userfriendly, it was because each new version had to fix some new bugs and they were much more annoying.
also jb on the s3 is more laggy than on xperia t, believe me. you can always say "why do contacts not instantly open on my t" but with an s3 you can be happy when they are open under 5 seconds and this on a Quadcore phone ...
who knows if we get 4.2 officially, even if not the port will be faster and more bug free than the official 4.2 from Samsung, I'm sure. but you are right, we have to get official 4.2 because we have bought an expensive flagship device.
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Unless you got the Korean variant, you must be having the 1GB Ram variant of the GS3. JB is laggy on GS3 because of TouchWiz. Use a custom ROM and its all good. Touchwiz is such a Ram hogger.
And we definitely would get 4.2! Otherwise it's just ridiculous.. I'll burn Sony down! Its the next increment im afraid of. Also remember GS3 has many more inbuilt features than our T (software wise) such as multiwindow, so it tends to be slower. I'm not saying its better though. We got smallapps
Android Police has uncovered evidence of android 4.3 in the works, most likely to be announced at I/O next month.
Could it be possible that 4.2.2 has been delayed because the awesome people at Sony are working instead on 4.3?
Probably not but it would be cool if Sony could be ahead of the development curve for once
http://www.theupload.geek.nz/2013/04/tech-google-to-release-android-43-at-io.html
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Android Police has uncovered evidence of android 4.3 in the works, most likely to be announced at I/O next month.
Could it be possible that 4.2.2 has been delayed because the awesome people at Sony are working instead on 4.3?
Probably not but it would be cool if Sony could be ahead of the development curve for once
http://www.theupload.geek.nz/2013/04/tech-google-to-release-android-43-at-io.html
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xperia z is not even mention in that article how do you even make that assumption.
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xperia z is not even mention in that article how do you even make that assumption.
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Not an assumption but a hopeful guess, where we not told 4.2.2 would arrive in March?? Its April so if 4.3 is near maybe the Sony team are making that for us instead THUS the delay
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Not an assumption but a hopeful guess, where we not told 4.2.2 would arrive in March?? Its April so if 4.3 is near maybe the Sony team are making that for us instead THUS the delay
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I dont know how Sony is with their update but it takes Samsung FOREVER to update their phone. I been using CM10 so when they announce 4.1.2 I'm not even amazed or care.
I don't think Google would release source code (or whatever) early. And you can't assume from this rumour that Sony is waiting.
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Even IF there will be a 4.3, we will get 4.2 first. IF there will be a 4.3:
1: It's not out yet (4.2 is)
2: Source codes aren't given out yet (4.2 source codes are)
IF 4.3 comes out then I guess we will get it before 5.0.
Way too many if's in this topic.
I vote for this bs to be closed.
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I don't think Google would release source code (or whatever) early. And you can't assume from this rumour that Sony is waiting.
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A good part is given to companies before the release to they can start working on it before it is actually released.
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A good part is given to companies before the release to they can start working on it before it is actually released.
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Oh.
Well the more you know.
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Oh.
Well the more you know.
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I think I wrote my post wrong.
AFAIK, only a part (not a good one) is sent to SOME companies (the biggest ones). The smaller ones don't get it so soon.
Seeming Sony is an AOSP partner I have no doubts their are People at Sony right now who know about 4.3, I highly doubt Google keeps their manufacturers in the dark until the launch day causing all OEMS to play catch up
It's been confirmed before that Sony is one of the key partners already working on the 'next' platform. They contribute a huge amount to Android compared to all the other manufacturers and it's going to give them the competitive edge some day.
I don't think so. Sony said that 4.2 update should be released soon after the phone's release, that means they must have been working on it for quite a while now. They won't just scrap their work and wait few months before 4.3/5.0 sources are released to start working again.
I think we'll get both of them, 4.2 in may/june and 4.3/5.0 probably 3-6 months after release - and let's hope it won't be wishful thinking.
I'd rather get 4.2 in a month or so than getting an hypothetical 4.3 in a 6 months...
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I'd rather get 4.2 in a month or so than getting an hypothetical 4.3 in a 6 months...
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hypothetical situations don't help but what does 4.2 really bring???? For the GNex is drastically reduced SOD but the Z doesn't have that issue.
If Sony turned around and asked and promised 4.2 next week OR 4.3 in 6 months I would take 4.3.
That said without a change log Who knows what 4.3 brings it may just be as useless at 4.2
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hypothetical situations don't help but what does 4.2 really bring???? For the GNex is drastically reduced SOD but the Z doesn't have that issue.
If Sony turned around and asked and promised 4.2 next week OR 4.3 in 6 months I would take 4.3.
That said without a change log Who knows what 4.3 brings it may just be as useless at 4.2
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But a hypothetical situation is what this thread is based on. Realistically it's a case of sit back and enjoy the handset as it is until Mr Sony pushes us an update. Some people are getting stressed out about updates. Frankly if it's not in my hands. I'm not worried about it. Just my opinion.
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hypothetical situations don't help but what does 4.2 really bring????
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To be honest, XZ has "no use" for 4.2 - by this I mean there are no features worth the hype in it, and honestly I only hope for it to include core OS bugfixes and some XZ-specific fixes like WiFi performance etc.
We always looking for Somin which isn't Even out.... How much of 4.2 have you used?
::Neebz::
There seems to be quite a few articles online saying that the Xperia Z is going to be one of the first devices to get KLP.. They even write it in a 'shocked' manner which I guess based on Sony's update history is rather appropriate.
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There seems to be quite a few articles online saying that the Xperia Z is going to be one of the first devices to get KLP.. They even write it in a 'shocked' manner which I guess based on Sony's update history is rather appropriate.
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Just read the articles. Might this as well indicate that Sony might be the next Nexus manufacturer?
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This brings back "2.1 to 2.2" update we faced with our beloved X10
Sony Ericsson back then did skip Frozen Yoghurt and jumped right onto Gingerbread..
I'm not sure if this is the case though because they have been working on 4.2 and it's not easy to scrap all the hard work and start all over again
Sony Just Announced Their Roadmap For 4.3 Upgrade Plan, Though It's Not The Final List...
As Expected, Xperia Z, ZR, And SP Are On The List...
But The Most Exciting Part For Us (T, TX, V Users) Is Here:
"We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest."
Take A Look
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
This Is What They Did In 2010 For Xperia x10i, I Owned It That Time, They Just Skipped Android 2.2, And Went Directly From 2.1 To 2.3
Just Wanted To Let You Know
Good Luck, Guys...
Don't hold your breath just yet, most likely it's going to roll out to T/TX/V next year.
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Rycon33 said:
Don't hold your breath just yet, most likely it's going to roll out to T/TX/V next year.
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I know it might take a year (If not MORE!!), but it is really worth it, skipping 4.2 in favor of 4.3, that's really nice, at least FINALLY our devices will be on 4.3, not 4.2...
just hope to have a bug-free 4.3, if any comes though :|
we have to wait and see, and as you said, wait a YEAR to see
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Don't hold your breath just yet, most likely it's going to roll out to T/TX/V next year.
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Well said !
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its not specific yet, hope it will come true. :good:
Sourcecode for 4.3 for the Z, Tablet Z and XZ is online.
I hope devs will get a port of it working on the T series.
I would do it myself but I have 0,0 experience in android
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Sourcecode for 4.3 for the Z, Tablet Z and XZ is online.
I hope devs will get a port of it working on the T series.
I would do it myself but I have 0,0 experience in android
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just wait and hope Sony approve us as "legitimate" for 4.3...
thermal controlling is horrible in JB
it decreases the performance a lot
just hope to get 4.3, and a change in thermal throttling policy
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I know it might take a year (If not MORE!!), but it is really worth it, skipping 4.2 in favor of 4.3, that's really nice, at least FINALLY our devices will be on 4.3, not 4.2...
just hope to have a bug-free 4.3, if any comes though :|
we have to wait and see, and as you said, wait a YEAR to see
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i don't believe Sony anymore. They really ****ed us over with the T. Since the Z was released the T died (with updates)
this was my first and last Sony. My next phone will be a Nexus
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i don't believe Sony anymore. They really ****ed us over with the T. Since the Z was released the T died (with updates)
this was my first and last Sony. My next phone will be a Nexus
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this is their policy for ANY flagship, not just T, i know...
Nexus is always the best buy, no doubt, at least you have a pure android and, of course, a TIMELY android :|
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this is their policy for ANY flagship, not just T, i know...
Nexus is always the best buy, no doubt, at least you have a pure android and, of course, a TIMELY android :|
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The Nexus 4 was no where to buy in the Netherlands at that time i bought the Xperia T (bought in the week of the release).
Still hoping for a good working version of cm10.1 / 2 for the T but got a feeling that's not gonna happen.
So hopefully next year there's a new nexus phone that i can buy in the Netherlands/
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The Nexus 4 was no where to buy in the Netherlands at that time i bought the Xperia T (bought in the week of the release).
Still hoping for a good working version of cm10.1 / 2 for the T but got a feeling that's not gonna happen.
So hopefully next year there's a new nexus phone that i can buy in the Netherlands/
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Android 4.3 will be my last Android experience, will move to iOS, games are much better, at least they are STANDARD for just ONE device, not an entry-level to high-end...
that's where android bothers me...
just hope to see 4.3, and then say bye-bye to android
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Android 4.3 will be my last Android experience, will move to iOS, games are much better, at least they are STANDARD for just ONE device, not an entry-level to high-end...
that's where android bothers me...
just hope to see 4.3, and then say bye-bye to android
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+1 I'll keep my Xperia V just for the fun of installing custom ROMS
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Android 4.3 will be my last Android experience, will move to iOS, games are much better, at least they are STANDARD for just ONE device, not an entry-level to high-end...
that's where android bothers me...
just hope to see 4.3, and then say bye-bye to android
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iOs ??? i will never buy anything from apple, really hate that company
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iOs ??? i will never buy anything from apple, really hate that company
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Reason??
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Reason??
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Apple's attitude. They think they are god. And i'm am atheïst
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Apple's attitude. They think they are god. And i'm am atheïst
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They god, when Steve Jobs still alive
XD
And sorry for OT
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Android 4.3 will be my last Android experience, will move to iOS, games are much better, at least they are STANDARD for just ONE device, not an entry-level to high-end...
that's where android bothers me...
just hope to see 4.3, and then say bye-bye to android
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The standard won't be much anymore when they release the budget iPhone =="
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Just wanted to point out Xperia SP and Xperia T have the same CPU but different GPU. I actually very confident Sony will upgrade Xperia T and friends.
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The standard won't be much anymore when they release the budget iPhone =="
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totally agree, they are gonna make the same mistake
but, honestly, you wouldn't see A BIT of lag when you play iOS games, but here in android, FORCE CLOSE is the least thing which you would expect!
i'm not a noob, actually not THAT noob, but android is nowhere compared to the STANDARD of iOS...
anyway, tastes are different, maybe for some android is the best....
and i have to admit that currently i have just an android phone
The only thing that keeps me on Android is the app Poweramp. As far as I've noted there's none like it on IOS. I'm not sure if the developer will do one for IOS. If so, i'll move asap.
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