Someone make a carbon back cover, that comes off easy (ok for me if nfc attenna gone)
Make it so you can remove and change batteries...
Put a micro SD card slot in the new back and wire it somehow ..
Wow that would be my dream phone...
Yeah, if only there was 32gb, kevlar back, and SAMOLED screen. This would be the ultimate phone for me....
I dont't understand why its so impossible for manufacturers to go 2/3rds the way every single time.
cheetah2k said:
Yeah, if only there was 32gb, kevlar back, and SAMOLED screen. This would be the ultimate phone for me....
I dont't understand why its so impossible for manufacturers to go 2/3rds the way every single time.
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Because if they went all the way you wouldn't buy another phone.
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cheetah2k said:
Yeah, if only there was 32gb, kevlar back, and SAMOLED screen. This would be the ultimate phone for me....
I dont't understand why its so impossible for manufacturers to go 2/3rds the way every single time.
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Super AMOLED are you kidding me
As far as 32gb do u remember how much this phone cost?
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blendobass said:
Someone make a carbon back cover, that comes off easy (ok for me if nfc attenna gone)
Make it so you can remove and change batteries...
Put a micro SD card slot in the new back and wire it somehow ..
Wow that would be my dream phone...
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Nice thought.. But it should be Locked.
Mods. Help him please
filthykid said:
Nice thought.. But it should be Locked.
Mods. Help him please
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Uhm why? Its general and its about this device. New threads really upset ppl it seems.
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Because that isn't going to happen. Ever.
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blendobass said:
Someone make a carbon back cover, that comes off easy (ok for me if nfc attenna gone)
Make it so you can remove and change batteries...
Put a micro SD card slot in the new back and wire it somehow ..
Wow that would be my dream phone...
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muyoso said:
Because that isn't going to happen. Ever.
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This.
I did not mean to discourage the guy but this won't happen. At least not this year. There have been plenty of discussions and articles relating to "what 'I' want in a phone". The company naturally doesn't care. So it's useless to make such discussion. However, andriod being open source, let all companies use the OS. Hence you got "plenty" of options to move onto. Why stick with a device you wish it "had" the features you desire?
I don't get the whole flash memory is expensive thing, it's like $1 a gig around here... I just got a 16 gig micro SD for $12 on sale. Are they making these phones so cheap that the few dollars it takes to put a little storage in makes them not afford it ?
I don't need so many apps, I don't care to much about total control, I am maybe the only one on here that is interested in Blackberry 10 phones, did you know part of the design is a BB should withstand a 20 ft drop and also a drop in a puddle ? If they happen to have a sd card, removable battery that lasts 3 days, and aren't lying about the browser being the fastest of any mobile, and add that it is higher end components I can see why people might switch to BB, i know you will laugh, but the joke is you might be able to sideload android on it and have a dual handset if you choose, or at least the apps..
I need a phone that can go threw hell and still work at the end of the day.
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This.
I did not mean to discourage the guy but this won't happen. At least not this year. There have been plenty of discussions and articles relating to "what 'I' want in a phone". The company naturally doesn't care. So it's useless to make such discussion. However, andriod being open source, let all companies use the OS. Hence you got "plenty" of options to move onto. Why stick with a device you wish it "had" the features you desire?
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It's not what "I" want in a phone.
The big joke is everyone wants the same in a phone.. they want the longest lasting, toughest build, most options for expandable memory, best antennas but not cancer, longest lasting, great screen, loudest speakers for music, the most connections possible, they want it all.. updateable phone possible for the dollars... its not math. They just like to minus stuff so you buy one per year.
Vote with your dollars.. that's all you can do, and while the arrogant fail sooner or later, there is always someone else providing what you need.
Many people in China for instance have dual sim card phones, I would like that, I can see how others wouldn't want it.
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It's not what "I" want in a phone.
The big joke is everyone wants the same in a phone.. they want the longest lasting, toughest build, most options for expandable memory, best antennas but not cancer, longest lasting, great screen, loudest speakers for music, the most connections possible, they want it all.. updateable phone possible for the dollars... its not math. They just like to minus stuff so you buy one per year.
Vote with your dollars.. that's all you can do, and while the arrogant fail sooner or later, there is always someone else providing what you need.
Many people in China for instance have dual sim card phones, I would like that, I can see how others wouldn't want it.
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There is no way you r wrong here by demanding all what one can ask for. But think for a second, if you are a phone manufacturer, you would want people to buy your phones every year.. probably twice or even thrice a year.. (yeah i have seen that happen). If a manufacturer gives all what is required in ONE phone... Boooom! who would ever switch?
Take Galaxy S2's example, there wasn't really any other such high-spec'd phone from known manufacturers in 2011. Hence if u see, many people who owned S2 at that time haven't switched to S3 or any other phone in 2012. Regardless of dual-core or quad-core, the phone:
a) is snappy
b) is slim
c) has enough internal space
d) got SD slot
e) got 8 MP camera which was still standard in 2012
f) got latest Adnriod OS
g) got latest OEM UI
h) standard RAM
i) large battery
What not?
Although they threw Quad-core but S2 still sold like a Boss. Hence they need to cut out corners and save them for their new device so that they force us to switch. They run a business and what matters the most to them is profit.
Samoled smh
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blendobass said:
It's not what "I" want in a phone.
The big joke is everyone wants the same in a phone.. they want the longest lasting, toughest build, most options for expandable memory, best antennas but not cancer, longest lasting, great screen, loudest speakers for music, the most connections possible, they want it all.. updateable phone possible for the dollars... its not math. They just like to minus stuff so you buy one per year.
Vote with your dollars.. that's all you can do, and while the arrogant fail sooner or later, there is always someone else providing what you need.
Many people in China for instance have dual sim card phones, I would like that, I can see how others wouldn't want it.
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Engineering isn't magic.At every point in designing there is a decision to make.
You can get the best antenna which will give you best coverage, but it requies more battery to send airwaves all the way.
Loudest speakers, again need a bigger driver and more battery power. For adding all these features you need a bigger battery, which means a thicker phone.
Toughest build, yes things are happening e.g Xperia Z. However when Samsung comes with a phone that can take some beating as it's plastic half the crowd goes boo.
When LG comes with N4 the other half does not like it as it breaks easily.
About dual SIM, I am not sure where you live but here in India you get dual sim android phones from Samsung. So it's not like few Chinese manufacturers are making it.
Samsung has brand called Duos, there is Galaxy S Duos, Galaxy Ace Duos etc all with dual sim.Maybe they aren't getting it to the place you live as they don't see too
many people going for it. e.g in US market where out of 4 major carriers only 2 are GSM and with incompatible 3G frequencies and carrier subsidies there is no market for
dual SIM.
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IMHO, the answer is yes. Not only are they not including a memory card slot, but they are now intentionally removing the ability to attach external mass storage to the device. This feature has been built into android for a couple of versions now and the only possible reason is them forcing you to use their cloud, which is compounded by this being a wifi-only device.
Google, I'm really starting to be frustrated by your choices. Yes, this will be hacked to a solution, but it shouldn't have to be. I really REALLY really want to like the nexus 7 and buy one, but I just can't. Not in this handicapped format. That's just my 2 cent rant.
usb otg still works though..
Pretty sure it was just to keep costs down...
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Pretty sure it was just to keep costs down...
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For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
Seeing how Cloud functionality is Google's bread and butter, it seems only logical that they would do something like this, as they are attracting people to their ecosystem. The N7 is the perfect consumption device to do this.
For content creation, you should probably consider either an iPad or laptop, and again to hold stuff like various media and software, you would be better off with an Archos tablet, like the G9 series.
It even tells you when you try to buy the device that 'Nexus 7 was built for Google Play' it's not like they are trying to deceive people, so people with the wrong expectation that jump into purchasing one only have theirselves to blame:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_8GB?id=nexus_7_8gb
I admit disappointment in not having microSD or the $50 upgrade for 8GB of additional storage. But I don't think Google is evil. I feel like I'm still getting a great deal out of this. Google and ASUS are making very little off the hardware, so it's natural that Google is going to put some limitations in to push people towards it's cloud content. I felt it was a reasonable compromise, so I bought one.
Poke_N_PDA said:
For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
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I'm talking about the SD card slot. Also nexus devices haven't had an SD slot since the Nexus One. This is the way they want to go.
As far as USB storage. I'm pretty sure you can't use a USB stick via OTG without root access anyway.
I would state my opinions on both but I'm sure they differ from yours, so I will refrain to avoid a flame fest.
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Poke_N_PDA said:
For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
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30 cents isn't much per unit but when you consider it's 30 cents say multiplied by 500,00 it adds up. Jellybean isn't out yet, it could be something as simple as bug that's causing the usb issues.
El Daddy I know the sgs 2 can do usb stick via otg without root.
I don't understand what the problem is. You stated that you're not buying it, therefore you're not stuck with something you don't want. There are plenty of tablets out there; surely there's ONE with the specs you want to buy. Why call Google evil because they didn't make something YOU want? It's a business decision. What do you call the other companies that don't live up to your expectations??
Ravynmagi said:
But I don't think Google is evil. I feel like I'm still getting a great deal out of this. Google and ASUS are making very little off the hardware, so it's natural that Google is going to put some limitations in to push people towards it's cloud content.
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They essentially neutered a good tablet (the Asus Me307t) in order to serve their own purposes. I call that evil.
Is it still a good deal? Yes. But by partnering like this, they've made it a worse deal than it otherwise would have been.
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Eagle1337 said:
El Daddy I know the sgs 2 can do usb stick via otg without root.
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That's probably a feature Samsung added.
Nexus devices don't have this functionality without root. (there is no way to mount it)
thebobp said:
They essentially neutered a good tablet (the Asus Me307t) in order to serve their own purposes. I call that evil.
Is it still a good deal? Yes. But by partnering like this, they've made it a worse deal than it otherwise would have been.
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Why do you say that google netured the Me307t? I think it more likely Asus agreeded to hold off on releasing it for a few months in return for getting manufacturing right for a Nexus tablet, now they have that and the ability to bring out their own badged device with a spec boost to help them sell it.
I refer you to Google's slogan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil
I for one take them at their word. Heck of a lot better than other companies I could name.
shuflie said:
Why do you say that google netured the Me307t? I think it more likely Asus agreeded to hold off on releasing it for a few months in return for getting manufacturing right for a Nexus tablet, now they have that and the ability to bring out their own badged device with a spec boost to help them sell it.
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First of all, the Nexus and me307t are the same.
As for Asus releasing an "upgraded version" or a version more true to the original, I don't find that plausible at all; economies of scale, and by then the demand for such a similar tablet would be largely sated anyway.
Poke_N_PDA said:
For which part? memory card slots are cheap and take up very little space. The act of removing usb storage ability from the OS took labor and therefore cost them money. I see very little cost saving in any of these decisions.
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The actual hardware is cheap, however the licensing is not, it would have been around $30 extra each port.
If the missing options are bothering you so much then don't buy it. Calling Google "Evil" because they made a business decision to cut cost and promote their cloud platform is a bit extreme. Now calling Apple "Evil" for using super glue to secure their Lithium-Ion battery to the frame/bezel of their MacBook pretty much making the battery irreplaceable due to the high risk of the battery being damages and spilling toxic material all over is a fair statement. If the N7 doesn't meet your requirement then wait for another 7 inch tab maybe Asus will release another version of the Me307t.
Poke_N_PDA said:
IMHO, the answer is yes. Not only are they not including a memory card slot, but they are now intentionally removing the ability to attach external mass storage to the device. This feature has been built into android for a couple of versions now and the only possible reason is them forcing you to use their cloud, which is compounded by this being a wifi-only device.
Google, I'm really starting to be frustrated by your choices. Yes, this will be hacked to a solution, but it shouldn't have to be. I really REALLY really want to like the nexus 7 and buy one, but I just can't. Not in this handicapped format. That's just my 2 cent rant.
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Dude, take 2 seconds and read the forums. The tablet supports USB storage. Now do a favor to anyone else that reads this thread and update your original post; you're going to confuse a lot of people.
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4x the price (assumed but likely), different hardware category altogether.
No. Where did they intentionally limit mass storage? A Googler even said that it is easy for a dev to write an app for the Nexus 7 to enable USB OTG without rooting.
They had a vision for this tablet as a window into the Play Store and as a direct competitor to Amazon's Kindle. And that's what it is. Would I have liked a SD slot? Hell yes. Is it evil that Google has said they want to move away from micro sd storage? Hell no.
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...,pd.html?selectedTab=tab-2&cgid=mobile-phones
At first glance, I thought this was a Droid 4. But then I saw that Moto took off the capacitive buttons on the bottom of the front of the phone. The Photon Q gets an upgraded 1.5gz dual core processor, and the display apparently has ColorBoost technology (resolution is the same, however).
I always wondered what Moto would do as a one-up on the droid 4. Looks like we have an answer
Motorola has stated that it'll have an unlockable bootloader. Also i think someone said that it has an s4, srsly the only real drawback so far to this phone is Sprint and that qhd display. Still very nice though
* raises fist * Damn you, Motorola! I just got the Droid 4!
* settles down * I still prefer a menu button though
* enables puppy-eyes * Please release an unlocked version in Europe?
I think the SIM card of the photon Q is not removable, so don't worry about getting it.
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If it'll be non-removable SIM card, it's dead phone
danifunker said:
I think the SIM card of the photon Q is not removable, so don't worry about getting it.
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It sure is not removable. I hope this is not going to be a new trend. Does not bode well for the Droid 5 on Verizon whenever it will be out.
From the Spec sheets:
Frequency: LTE, CDMA 800/1900 EVDO Rev A, World Phone - GSM 850/1900/1800/900, UMTS 850/1900/2100 (SIM is embedded in the phone, GSM SIM is locked and not removable)
hey all i care about is the fact that they will let you unlock the bootloader, they better do it for the Droid 4 and RAZR too!
Fat chance of that. Verizon thinks that rooted phones can impair the quality of the service they provide. /:
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Fat chance of that. Verizon thinks that rooted phones can impair the quality of the service they provide. /:
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**** Verizon, all they do is pack their phones with bull**** bloatware, delay OTAs by months, overprice, and all that. the only good thing they've ever done for me is not get rid of my unlimited data plan yet. ....yet.... *knocks on wood*
@sjaakbaanan i had the same reaction when reading OP
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@sjaakbaanan i had the same reaction when reading OP
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Haha, good to see I'm not the only one!
I'm still keeping my hopes up that one day they'll release this or a newer QWERTY over here too, with unlocked SIM. If not this phone, then the next.. and I'll buy it right away!
Maybe we should start some kind of internet petition to bring Motorola QWERTY phones than Europe and see if more than 5 people sign it
Didn't Samsung succumb to internet users when it offered a "developer version" (unlocked bootloader) of the GS3 on verizon (for way more money, of course)? If I'm correct, then it can be done
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Didn't Samsung succumb to internet users when it offered a "developer version" (unlocked bootloader) of the GS3 on verizon (for way more money, of course)? If I'm correct, then it can be done
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Yes, and they offered it for 600 USD I believe, which is actually still cheaper than the S3's unsubsidized price over here. So I'm already taking into account that I need to spend that amount of money, as long as they give me the chance
But I think more people want an unlocked S3 (which already existed for Europe anyway) than an unlocked Photon Q, so the power of the internet may be smaller here. Ah well, if I get data to work, I'm fully happy with my Droid 4!
No microSD cards, non-removable batteries and now embedded SIM cards. Are we noticing a trend yet?
Tappin' and talkin' with Tapatalk.
This one takes a microsd, but yeah there's definitely a trend...
my guess is the trend is actually carriers trying to hold on to the old way of doing things. they don't like device hopping and by forcing you to buy a new phone, they are able to bring in additional revenue.
I hate how we're basically the only market that's this way. meanwhile the rest of the world is "free to roam" and prices remain competitive.
Me too
640k said:
my guess is the trend is actually carriers trying to hold on to the old way of doing things. they don't like device hopping and by forcing you to buy a new phone, they are able to bring in additional revenue.
I hate how we're basically the only market that's this way. meanwhile the rest of the world is "free to roam" and prices remain competitive.
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I hate how the phones seem to be built to break after 2 years. My mom got a phone 13 years ago that is still kicking..its even been dropped in a drink cup....6 years after the cup incident the pixels in the display are finally going out. She loves that thing and is very upset that she has to get a new phone, I am very surprised it's still working. She's even using the original battery! As for me, I love the keyboard on my D4, and now that I have my much-beloved FM radio on it, I probably won't upgrade again, it's just too expensive to. I will just surf ebay and get other D4s. :silly: Anyone else notice that as Verizon gets bigger, the more expensive, dumber and ruder they become? I wish we had more competition.
I have noticed that trend too, and I don't like it. If they wanted to keep things like they were, they would still be making indestructible bricks like what my mom is using. I like the thinner phones, yet I want to be able to rip out the battery if I get frustrated, and I hate needing a SIM card
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KrellaKrentoshi said:
I hate how the phones seem to be built to break after 2 years. My mom got a phone 13 years ago that is still kicking..its even been dropped in a drink cup....6 years after the cup incident the pixels in the display are finally going out. She loves that thing and is very upset that she has to get a new phone, I am very surprised it's still working. She's even using the original battery! As for me, I love the keyboard on my D4, and now that I have my much-beloved FM radio on it, I probably won't upgrade again, it's just too expensive to. I will just surf ebay and get other D4s. :silly: Anyone else notice that as Verizon gets bigger, the more expensive, dumber and ruder they become? I wish we had more competition.
I have noticed that trend too, and I don't like it. If they wanted to keep things like they were, they would still be making indestructible bricks like what my mom is using. I like the thinner phones, yet I want to be able to rip out the battery if I get frustrated, and I hate needing a SIM card
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+10
I have been trying to point this out to eveyone I work with especially with all of the HTC devices every time a new ver of the evo is coming out all of sudden the old ver starts to fall apart physically and software !! coincident? i dont think so!!!
I do like my D4. Its been the first DROID phone I've been happy with since the 1. Some other slider is going to have to have some prett decent features to get me to switch. Like a better screen and battery life that lasts days.
What should I do now?
Am one of those who'll want a physical keyboard on Android for sure.
Last year waited so much for Droid 3, but bad reviews didn't let me go for it. Early this year got Xperia Pro, which was working very much fine, and then few weeks ago, STOLEN.
Now on a prowl for another Android + keyboard handset. Found Droid 4, but thanks to GSM radio still off (am from India and on GSM) have been more than eagerly waiting for ICS on Droid 4. Now that it is just rolling out, come across Photon Q.
Very much confused which one to go for, Droid 4 or Photon Q?
# Droid 4 has higher battery life among the two (of the data in hand at present), with ICS so late, Jelly Bean would be light years away.
# Photon Q will launch with ICS, so have a chance for Jelly Bean. But battery life doesn't look promising (reviews after the launch will give exact idea). Apart from that, Photon Q looks better with better processor and bigger screen.
Please advice which one should I really go with.
Thanks!
I know this post will enrage some people here, but it needs to be said.
Every Nexus phone since the N1 has been a FAILURE, pure and simple. The N1 set the standard at the time with class leading specs, and despite not being perfect, it still made the Android OEMs sit up and take notice, ushering in a new wave of amazing Android devices.
Since that time, from Google, we've had:
Nexus S - warmed over Galaxy S, with no killer features that was lacklustre at the time of release and quickly destroyed by the GS2
Galaxy Nexus - a phone that released with an old chipset which would not have been a problem in and of itself, if the camera and battery life hadn't been so utterly ****
And now, the Nexus 4.
This phone is so close to getting it right - decent processor, decent amount of RAM, good screen, camera is supposed to be good if the LG Optimus G is anything to go by. And yet Google eff it all up with 16GB max storage.
I've been wanting a Nexus ever since the N1, but each time Google puts a hurdle in the way of my buying it. The fact the N4 is such a stupendous price only makes this latest failure all the more annoying for me. Everyone knows the arguments for and against cloud storage, so I won't bore you by repeating them. But I feel like if I get a Nexus then I'm slowly but surely being herded into using the phone someone else's way rather than my own. Does that ring any bells for you?
The N4 looks SO good in every other aspect that I'm desperately trying to see if I can rearrange my affairs on the phone to try and make 16GB work. Get rid of the backups and ROMs hanging around. Trim down my apps, especially the large games. Jettison most of my music. Re-encode my TV and movies to a much smaller size/worse quality. I MAY be able to do it, but it's going to be a lot of extra hassle and constant moving things around. This device is supposed to make my life easier, not give me more work to do. I'm very disappointed.
Finally, I hope Google come out and say one way or another NOW whether or not they intend on releasing larger storage versions later. If I were to buy this 16GB phone and then they put out a 32/64GB in three months that would enrage me. If Google were to let us know that they intend on releasing something bigger later then I would happily wait for that. But I think they'll keep us in the dark, even if they are thinking about doing it - they know that if they were to release something else later then it would be going up against the GS4 and HTC J Butterfly, which is a fight the N4 wouldn't win in a lot of people's eyes.
That's my rant over for now - feel free to agree/disagree/savage me below!!
Pls Remember...
Remember N4 is a PHONE...
Try not to migrate your whole life to your phone... Unless it is completely mandatory...
16 GB is actually decent, and should not be considered as a fail just because it doesn't fit your needs
Cheers!
I'm not even going to bother with this. Anyone else or should we just delete the thread?
I don't expect they will come out NOW and say that there is a 32GB version around the corner, it'll just put people off buying one one release. If it's frustrated you that much and you need the space then I'd just wait a few months. At worst they don't release one and you will probably be able to pick a 16GB up for slightly less than the release price.
Are we seriously allowing more such threads to find its way on this forum?
Why the hell do you have so much crap on your phone? That's ridiculous.
Google doesn't "fail."
You "fail."
This thread "fails."
setspeed said:
I know this post will enrage some people here, but it needs to be said.
Every Nexus phone since the N1 has been a FAILURE, pure and simple. The N1 set the standard at the time with class leading specs, and despite not being perfect, it still made the Android OEMs sit up and take notice, ushering in a new wave of amazing Android devices.
Since that time, from Google, we've had:
Nexus S - warmed over Galaxy S, with no killer features that was lacklustre at the time of release and quickly destroyed by the GS2
Galaxy Nexus - a phone that released with an old chipset which would not have been a problem in and of itself, if the camera and battery life hadn't been so utterly ****
And now, the Nexus 4.
This phone is so close to getting it right - decent processor, decent amount of RAM, good screen, camera is supposed to be good if the LG Optimus G is anything to go by. And yet Google eff it all up with 16GB max storage.
I've been wanting a Nexus ever since the N1, but each time Google puts a hurdle in the way of my buying it. The fact the N4 is such a stupendous price only makes this latest failure all the more annoying for me. Everyone knows the arguments for and against cloud storage, so I won't bore you by repeating them. But I feel like if I get a Nexus then I'm slowly but surely being herded into using the phone someone else's way rather than my own. Does that ring any bells for you?
The N4 looks SO good in every other aspect that I'm desperately trying to see if I can rearrange my affairs on the phone to try and make 16GB work. Get rid of the backups and ROMs hanging around. Trim down my apps, especially the large games. Jettison most of my music. Re-encode my TV and movies to a much smaller size/worse quality. I MAY be able to do it, but it's going to be a lot of extra hassle and constant moving things around. This device is supposed to make my life easier, not give me more work to do. I'm very disappointed.
Finally, I hope Google come out and say one way or another NOW whether or not they intend on releasing larger storage versions later. If I were to buy this 16GB phone and then they put out a 32/64GB in three months that would enrage me. If Google were to let us know that they intend on releasing something bigger later then I would happily wait for that. But I think they'll keep us in the dark, even if they are thinking about doing it - they know that if they were to release something else later then it would be going up against the GS4 and HTC J Butterfly, which is a fight the N4 wouldn't win in a lot of people's eyes.
That's my rant over for now - feel free to agree/disagree/savage me below!!
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Have you seen the price of this phone you silly boy...:silly: , compare the price and what you get compared to all other similar spec devices.
Google show every other manufacturer the way again..
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Are we seriously allowing more such threads to find its way on this forum?
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There are so many people saying the same thing that I'm hopeful it will get brought to Google's attention that loads of people WANT to buy this device but NEED more storage space.
Sorry, but if they had announced a 32GB option then this device would be being hailed by almost everyone as the best thing to happen to Android ever (what with the specs and aggressive pricing). Instead, it just has a large portion of its target market banging their heads against a wall...
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Didn't even read this! I'm too excited!
All I know is whatever you're complaining about is **** because the phone is £279!
If you don't like it, buy the inferior iPhone
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I'm going to have to agree with the OP. The same people that are praising this phone have been knocking Apple for such lacking features in the past including no expandable storage, no removable battery, no LTE. Amazing how cool it is that this device doesn't have these features...
I'm not going to go into the reasons why I would like more space as it's been covered over and over in other threads.
The point of this thread is to ask why Google seems unable to spec a phone that is ahead of the curve and also meets the needs of most of its target market, without jumping through hoops like USB-OTG for this, or buying an extended battery and putting up with a rubbish camera on the G-Nex.
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edit: Sigh, I'll be nice.
(short story is that "most" of the target does not need over 16GB of space, not even close. Speak for yourself.)
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I'm going to have to agree with the OP. The same people that are praising this phone have been knocking Apple for such lacking features in the past including no expandable storage, no removable battery, no LTE. Amazing how cool it is that this device doesn't have these features...
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How much is the Iphone £529, Samsung galaxy S3 £400, HTC one x + £425 ETC,
The Nexus 4 £279 Get a grip on reality and ssshhhusshh...
I will buy this phone.. 16GB is enough for me
Human nature. People can always pick things to complain about.
If the N4 has LTE and 64gb storage, they will be able to pick other **** to complain about keep whining.
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So you call the latest S4 Snapdragon Quadcore processor decent? Two gb's of ram is only decent? Please show me any phone which can muster those kind of specs, especially in that price range.
Also, the storage space of 16 gb's in my opionion should be enough for the average user. How large part of the main public do you really think store roms and nands on their devices?
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I will buy this phone.. 16GB is enough for me
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+1....:good:
Simple economics suggests that to make a device with such powerful specifications and make it available for under $300, you need to cut your costs somewhere. I would rather have 8 or 16GB of storage space than have a subpar screen, processor, or inadequate RAM. There is a specific reason why Google no longer wants a microSD card, and they have publicly stated why since 2010. Come to terms and accept it as a viable compromise, or just don't purchase the Nexus 4. The android ecosystem is large enough to make everyone happy.
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Human nature. People can always pick things to complain about.
If the N4 has LTE and 64gb storage, they will be able to pick other **** to complain about keep whining.
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If it had them people would complain about price size and battery life..
16GB won't work for you on the Nexus 4, but you seem to really like the Nexus One which had 512 MB, a good bit of which was taken by the OS.
Edit: Wikipedia says 190 MB for applications
Don't get me wrong. I am a huge Nexus fan and I'm going to upgrade my Gnex to the Nexus 4 as soon as it comes out. However, I can't help but think that the Nexus line is gradually following iPhone's design. Starting with the Nexus S, it lost the expandable storage option. Now comes the Nexus 4 and it doesn't have a removable battery. Both of these features were touted to be 2 of the major advantages Android, in general, had over the iPhone. With the glass back cover, the Nexus 4 now even shares more similarities with the iPhone.
Android supporters always argue that one of the reasons they chose Android is that they didn't want Apple to dictate what they can or cannot have on their phones. With the limited internal storage in the Nexus 4, some people explained that Google wanted us to use their cloud services. To me, IMO, this is like Google forcing us to do what they want us to do, by not giving us expandable storage.
I still like the Nexus line and fortunately there are many other good Android phones to choose from if the Nexus 4 doesn't suit some people. I just wanted to share a small gripe that I have with the Nexus line. I think it's pretty obvious that Google put these limitations on these Nexus phones because they didn't want to directly compete with their Android partners. Do you guys think we will ever see a "perfect" Nexus phone in the future?
I use Android because of the fantastic, open OS.
I don't care about removable batteries or SD cards.
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Really, the N4 isn't out yet and there are muppets posting Apple posts in the nexus forum
Get a grip ffs.
Google aren't forcing you to do anything. If 16GB is a deal breaker (and using a thumddrive with USB OTG isn't an option) Google know you have other options Galaxy S3, Note II, One X+, Xperia T, Optimus G, that will offer different storage and battery options, while still feeding into the Google ecosystem.
The philosophy behind the Nexus devices has changed this year. They used to be primarily developer devices, for this purpose it made perfect sense to have a microSD slot and removable battery. Google are now positioning the brand as a true competitor to iOS. The vast majority of consumers don't need a microSD slot or removable battery or huge amounts of storage. They have clearly made the decision that the design and price of the phone is more important than these features. It won't be right for some but I think for the vast majority of people it will be perfectly fine.
Frankly, I think we could use a little more Apple-ness. Fewer devices, more consistency, direct to handset updates. And, the SD-card will be going the way of the dodo bird. I'm fine with what I see so that better and faster changes can be implemented and so that titles may eventually come Android's way before any other OS's way.
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Google aren't forcing you to do anything. If 16GB is a deal breaker (and using a thumddrive with USB OTG isn't an option) Google know you have other options Galaxy S3, Note II, One X+, Xperia T, Optimus G, that will offer different storage and battery options, while still feeding into the Google ecosystem.
The philosophy behind the Nexus devices has changed this year. They used to be primarily developer devices, for this purpose it made perfect sense to have a microSD slot and removable battery. Google are now positioning the brand as a true competitor to iOS. The vast majority of consumers don't need a microSD slot or removable battery or huge amounts of storage. They have clearly made the decision that the design and price of the phone is more important than these features. It won't be right for some but I think for the vast majority of people it will be perfectly fine.
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I agree with you. The design and price of the phone are actually more important to me. That's why in my original post I said that I will get the Nexus 4 for sure. And again, like I said, there are so many other good options out there for everyone if the N4 is not right for them.
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Really, the N4 isn't out yet and there are muppets posting Apple posts in the nexus forum
Get a grip ffs.
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I'm not an Apple advocate and have never owned any Apple products. I don't even have iTunes or Quicktime installed on my computer. I just wanted to see what other people think about my observation. That's why I started the post during my little break from work. I tried to make my original post as objective as possible. Guess I failed. =\
I think keeping removal batteries and sd cards would be awesome, and 32gbs would be lovely but that isn't budget.
Personally I'd toss another 50 for those features but that's me.
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I tried to make my original post as objective as possible. Guess I failed. =\
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It's a thread about Apple in a Nexus forum
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Frankly, I think we could use a little more Apple-ness. Fewer devices, more consistency, direct to handset updates. And, the SD-card will be going the way of the dodo bird. I'm fine with what I see so that better and faster changes can be implemented and so that titles may eventually come Android's way before any other OS's way.
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I think this is where google is going with the nexus devices. Something more streamlined and user-friendly for the masses. They have to make money too, and even though us phone nerds like to tinker away and have options, most people want something straightforward that "just works." Code will still be open sourced though and developers can have their fun with these devices. Also, don't forget that android has a ton of devices from other manufacturers with SD slots, removable battery, bigger screens... etc. There are a lot of android choices, but their flagship device is being made more for mass-marketing now.
1. Most new phones won't have a removable battery. Get over it.
2. Google has stated many times that they believe SD cards are unreliable and confusing for the end user. So they are trying to set an example and get rid of them. Now I agree they should offer 32GB versions to compensate.
So.... There's that.
Not being rude but I use android because of its open software and customization that u cant have it on apple phone/pads.
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I do also prefer Android over iOS because of the open OS and to the fact we have a file system that enables us to have files and several apps accessing those files. I would prefer to have a removable battery and the option to have a SD card, and even FM radio and 32Gb ... but for the price of this device, and the features he gives, its a must for me!
I have a SGS with SD slot ... and i dont use it. I have a removable battery and i only remove it when applying custom ROMs (if needed) ... so if there is an option to go to recovery or do a force restart without removing the battery, for me ... its ok. regarding space, i am using the cloud for most of the space needed ... so, again ... Im ok!
The lack of a removable battery is not a big deal to me. It's 2100mah, which is significantly more than the 1750mah given to the Galaxy Nexus, and it doesn't have to power a battery-destroying AMOLED screen. As far as removable storage, I've gotten by just fine on 16GB on my Galaxy Nexus, mostly because I rely on music streaming services and use my Nexus 7 for all of my games.
Google isn't removing hardware options because they hate their users, they're doing it because their R&D has shown that massive local storage and removable batteries are not as important to the majority of users, and they can drive down the device cost by omitting them. Personally I am annoyed by how the battery door of my Galaxy Nexus always creaks, so I'd probably prefer my next device to be a completely closed off design.
Don't forget that there exists a phone with relatively the same specs as the Nexus 4, but also offers removable storage and LTE, known as the Optimus G. Sure, the development community for it will be smaller, but that shouldn't matter if all you really care about is the hardware.
i agree with the concept that the OP put out there. people want options, and android gives them options as apple does not. a glass back is just bad design, yes it looks good, but it can break unnecessarily and cause problems that one should not have to deal with. people don't like having no options, and it is good that google, unlike apple, allows other device makers to use the android OS, and make it open source. that way you still do have an option, and my choice will be SGS3 because of google's decisions. (and i don't really want a device manufactured by LG, i was hoping asus would get into the phone side of nexus, or it would still be samsung)
that being said, i now have a galaxy s phone and an external battery charger, because i can switch batteries at any time and have a full charge without having to be tethered to a cable/cradle. i hate iOS with a passion. and i was very excited to see there was a new nexus device dropping. i can live without the sd slot option (although it is not my favorite thing, and would like expandability) but i will not buy a phone that doesn't allow me to change out batteries as i am accustomed. have had external chargers with my last 2 phones (about 5 years) and it is real handy to be able to swap and go.
I didn't care for the Google guys response to why it doesn't have an sd card slot. He said it was confusing for people to have 2 storage options, and they wouldn't be able to find their own pictures, etc. That seems like an Apple-y response to me, assuming people are idiots, and can't handle it, so they take away the option.
I've always loved Android because it can be easy to pick up for newbies, and can get quite advanced for techies. Don't take away our options Google. Give us the choice
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I didn't care for the Google guys response to why it doesn't have an sd card slot. He said it was confusing for people to have 2 storage options, and they wouldn't be able to find their own pictures, etc. That seems like an Apple-y response to me, assuming people are idiots, and can't handle it, so they take away the option.
I've always loved Android because it can be easy to pick up for newbies, and can get quite advanced for techies. Don't take away our options Google. Give us the choice
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Only one of the Nexus phones had a micro sd slot, so it's not like all of a sudden they decided "hey lets remove the sd slot to piss people off"
Its all about setting standards. Google give us what they believe is the true Android experience, and obviously that is without a micro sd card and hardware buttons.
They give us choices, by allowing micro sd support with the kernel/roms.
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Only one of the Nexus phones had a micro sd slot, so it's not like all of a sudden they decided "hey lets remove the sd slot to piss people off"
Its all about setting standards. Google give us what they believe is the true Android experience, and obviously that is without a micro sd card and hardware buttons.
They give us choices, by allowing micro sd support with the kernel/roms.
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I think the actual reason is the dont want to pay the big M 15$ for licensing for using exfat on each device.
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I use Android because of the fantastic, open OS.
I don't care about removable batteries or SD cards.
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i second this.
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Frankly, I think we could use a little more Apple-ness. Fewer devices, more consistency, direct to handset updates. And, the SD-card will be going the way of the dodo bird. I'm fine with what I see so that better and faster changes can be implemented and so that titles may eventually come Android's way before any other OS's way.
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Agreed - so as long as the #fail within Apple stays at bay. The one thing I hope Google can accomplish that Apple has been complacent with regards to is the US carrier/lock-in model. I realize that the cellular industry in the US started out significantly different than in Europe, however we're at a point now where unlocked phones can generally be used across a couple of carriers. If Google can take advantage of splitting the subsidized costs out but keeping hardware costs for new smartphones lower I'm all in favor of that. I was pleasantly surprised to see the unlocked Nexus 4 at a reasonable price - we need more of this as I feel phone quality and features will vastly improve if consumers can, and will, have a better selection of phones more frequently (not being locked to a phone for ~2 years). Maybe this will signal to manufacturers to slow down a bit, improve build quality and focus in on what the customer wants and then they'll end up with the "next big thing" for a few months. It'd also be nice to know, going into buying a phone, what the support model is before you buy. So if the vendor puts out a, sort of, LTS (Long Term Support) guarantee for 2 years knowing darn well that getting out updates quickly is prudent.
Also I'm not sure why Apple is the only vendor to, basically, have complete control over their device's software - where it seems to be that Android is the second class citizen and gets held up by the carriers AND the manufacturers (almost conveniently so that the public can play the blame game). If Google can make progress on this fron then two :good:.
Removable battery and sd cards were two advantages... Let's see what we have left.
Swype
SwiftKey
New 4.2 stock keyboard with both.
CyanogenMod + roms.
Micro usb standard. (30$ adapter anyone?)
Multiple device/price selection
On nexus devices root is an ADB command.
Oh, we are arguably less fragmented than Apple. Don't believe me? Ask my mom how she likes siri on her iPhone 4, or my girlfriends grand father about siri on his ipad 2. Oh.... Wait they don't have it. Still haven't found any solid way to hack it on. Meanwhile my 2 year old captivate with Cm10 and Google now...
Oh yeah, nfc chips are totally not an advantage are they?
I'll give apple credit the battery and screen on the ipad 3 are amazing. Apple has even managed to impress me time to time. You can't however single out one or two minor advantages of a platform and act like it doesn't exist without them.
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I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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It's a pain in the butt shopping for where to go from the Note 4. Where, oh where, is it's successor? I so hate the idea of a non-replaceable battery. Maybe, if it wouldn't be too grueling to take my next "sealed" phone apart to replace the dang thing. The next big screen Nexus? Arrrgggghhhhhh!
Well if I didn't just post a lengthy reply to a similar question in the Intl. forum! (In fact I did; this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/moving-to-flagship-t3404126 my ramblings are the first post on page 4 ) Bullet points:
* I think the Note 4 is (still, 2 years in) a great device and I plan on keeping mine after making my last few payments. It will be a super fancy universal IR remote... ...among other things Definitely no shortage of ways to repurpose an old/extra Android device.
* I really hope the upcoming Nexus has expandable storage... I could see that happening this year with Google's "adoptable storage" (and other OEM's failing to... adopt it ) It's equally possible that I just really want that to happen. Either way, if it does, the larger screen version will be my next phone.
* The Note 7 looks beastly and if it doesn't have a locked bootloader I might go for it. The thing is, I'd really like to avoid buying anything from TMO aside from service... ya know, "vote with my wallet" against their abysmally late updates. I have a "new" Tab S2 TMO variant that's now the only model of that tablet that hasn't been updated to MM yet, making it as well as my N4 dead last (including other carriers) to receive the 10 month old OS. No way I can throw down up front for a $$$ N7 though, and I did do a couple of exchanges with the TMO insurance that were super easy, so bootloader unlocked = maybe, locked = not. a. chance. (not that I'd ever pay money for a "computer" that locks me out from self-administration, but particularly since I trust TMO 0% wrt updates and may need to handle that myself.)
* Option 3 = ??? Hoping to find the following: strong/friendly development community, expandable storage, >= 5.5" quality display, standard headphone port (IMO it's ridiculous that dropping this is becoming "a thing" w/o a superior replacement), and "good" battery life. Hopefully not asking too much in 2016, sure was in 2015.
Currently leaning towards a Nexus I suppose... not really in any rush to move on from the N4. Oh and definitely agree @steven.m - sealed battery = planned obsolescence but (clearly) any phone without a completely impractical metal unibody is simply not "PREMIUM" enough for... something something... of today! Note that a removable battery isn't even on my "wish list"... I was trying to make it realistic
I'll keep this N4 until it's dead. Then I'll most likely look at Nexus, HTC or Moto devices. About the only thing I'll miss is the WiFi calling.
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Xiaomi Mi Max for me
Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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Dang just did another spec search and you are right http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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Yes, and the capacity can be battery capacity can be maximised this way since they don't have to make provisions for the battery to be removed.
I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
I'm thinking about the zenfone 3 ultra 6.8inch monster lol
The note 7 isn't on my radar, I too am think of going with a nexus if it has a memory card slot but all of this won't be for a while as I just traded in my s7 ( which was part of bogo ) and got my note 4 back that I jumped about 6 months ago. I missed it so much I will keep it for ever, even after its paid off. I also have the s7 edge which just became rootable so I might play with it for a while but it's my work phone and I have until November before I can jump again but it won't be a Sammy phone. I don't really like the s7 edge as those edges are a real nightmare unless you have a case on it you will have accidental touches that will drive you crazy. I'll hold on to my note 4 until next year and then start looking.
I didn't realize the s7 had been rooted
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I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
This is a good question I guess it depends on if note 7 comes with 820 or something better I won't buy a 820 phone there are cheaper options with same processor. Im thinking Nexus. But if note 7 has 4000mah battery it may get my money. My last 2 Samsung phones have had bad gps
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
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I am getting to the point where I can no longer justify spending $650-700 on a phone. You're right, there are so many decent options now for half the price.
I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
Jeez the note 7 is going to be almost 1000.
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HTC makes the best Nexus phones imo.
I might get the Moto G4 Plus
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I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
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Agreed... but then again, do I have enough time to monkey around with ROMs again? Realistically - no. If I get an Android device again, I'm just going to have to get the latest Nexus. I'm tired of TW and trying to hack things to make them behave like I want them to...( I'm looking at you NFC icon ).