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[Q] Battery charging problem?

I've had the Droid 3 for about 10 days now, and I've been encountering an intermittent problem with charging the phone.
Last night, I plugged in my phone so that it would charge overnight. I made sure that the connections to both the phone and the outlet were firm, and upon plugging it in, my phone's battery icon and lock screen both indicated that it was charging. However, when I woke up this morning, I discovered that the battery had actually continued to discharge overnight. Despite this, the battery icon and lock screen both continued to say that the battery was charging.
I've run into this problem three times this past week. It's entirely possible that I just have a defective device, but I wanted to check and make sure that nobody else was experiencing this issue before taking it back to Verizon.

Check the task manager for programs using lots of cpu. I've found that using google maps nav in the car dock while charging still in fact uses more power than it could charge. Your issue is with the screen off though so check for background apps.
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I have had this problem 2 times and I have had the phone for about the same time. I plugged it in at like 40% watched a movie screen never came on till the movie was over I looked at my screen and the battery was at 11%. I was thinking maybe just a bad connection untill I looked at the notification bar and it said it was charging!

I just got my Droid 3 yesterday and last night, the first night of use, it did the same thing. Even if I go into battery usage and look at the graph it'll say charging but the power level will be going down. Very frustrating.

A Verizon rep I spoke with recommended trying a different charger. Sounds reasonable enough, so I'll give that a shot and post back after a few nights of use.

What is the current rating of the chargers you guys are using? (i.e. 850 mA, 1 A, etc). A good rule of thumb is not use anything less than 1 A (1000 mA).

The Motorola-supplied charger is 850mA.

RandomEncounter said:
A Verizon rep I spoke with recommended trying a different charger. Sounds reasonable enough, so I'll give that a shot and post back after a few nights of use.
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This sounds logical. I had this same problem two phones that happened to have a slide-out keyboard (Shift, G2) and the problem vanished when I used a different charger. I just read today that 100s of people were having this problem today in a news feed.

I was having the issue too, so I used a 2A charger that came with my Huawei tablet...no more issues! (Charge time is about 1.5 hours too!)

pplude said:
I was having the issue too, so I used a 2A charger that came with my Huawei tablet...no more issues! (Charge time is about 1.5 hours too!)
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I'd be careful about using higher amperage chargers. Don't want to be burning out the charging circuitry. Not saying you will.. just be careful using a charger not designed specifically for the device.

Apparently the new Moto LiPo batteries have another level of overcharge protection. To be safe, I'm going to use an ohm-meter about once a week or so to check the internal contacts (a higher ohm rating would suggest damage).

pplude said:
Apparently the new Moto LiPo batteries have another level of overcharge protection. To be safe, I'm going to use an ohm-meter about once a week or so to check the internal contacts (a higher ohm rating would suggest damage).
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Good to know. I found one of those chargers for $6, I'm considering getting one now.
http://www.bargaincell.com/huaweiid...e-p-509461.html?cPath=58893_59091_59092_59093

elkay said:
Good to know. I found one of those chargers for $6, I'm considering getting one now.
http://www.bargaincell.com/huaweiid...e-p-509461.html?cPath=58893_59091_59092_59093
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That's not the one I have, I'm using the USB-output charger from the S7 SLIM, then the Moto supplied USB cable.

Well, it's been a few days, and I haven't experienced the problem since switching to a different charger. Granted, the problem was intermittent, so it's difficult to know for certain if the charger was in fact the issue, but I'm content with this solution.

I've been using my iPad's 5.1V 2.1A charger without issues for a few days. It charges the extended battery from 10% to full in a little over an hour.

That's the dual-core proc for ya. Wonder why the Xoom uses a proprietary charger? dual-core devices nom battery.

Jewremy said:
That's the dual-core proc for ya. Wonder why the Xoom uses a proprietary charger? dual-core devices nom battery.
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No? Dual core is more efficient, it shuts down one of the processors when it's not in use. Dual core means nothing about power efficiency. As a matter of fact, it can have an advantage. Each core uses less power, and combined, they can use less power than a similarly powerful chipset.

I've also run into some issues on my 5 day old Droid 3. It seems to be when disconnected from the charger. I have two regular Moto chargers for this, and tried a 1A HTC charger, which this thing will not charge from.
I tried using different micro USB cables, which didn't help, either. I was trying to move the phone around while charging, and seemed to encounter the issue. Either it's a connector issue for the mUSB, or the (especially short and stiff) charging cables have broken conductors inside, and we're getting a bad batch of cords.
Possibly the D3 has its own issue with charging, but I didn't have a problem until this morning. regular mUSB cords won't work for me at all, as I've tried all I have.
Given this issue, I'm wondering how widespread this is, and if it's something to take the phone back for. I took me a few hours (over 3) of waiting and fiddling with it, but it's at least charging now.

I had this issue to. I used a different charger and cord to charge my phone at night woke up the next day no charge. I went to work pluged in to my wall charger and still no charge. I did a factory reset thinking that might work but it did not. I was going to take it to a verizon store after work so on the way there I pluged in to my car charger an it started to charge so I skipped the store. When I got home I used a different cord and wall charger and it also worked. I did notice that when I plugged in the night before that a small little white light was lit up for a second in between the charging port and hdmi. I know there is a light there but never seen it light up before. So maybe that was behind all of this. Not had a problem sense.
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The amperage you see stated PS units has no effect on your phone. That's not how many amps leaves the unit to charge your battery. That's how much the PS unit can handle as a draw. In reality the reason the stock ones are only 850 only means that the manufacture used spec parts for the PS unit. i would think that Motorola's minimum spec was 850 and so that's what the PS units manufacture used.
The higher the number means nothing other than you can bet the 1AMP one is going to out last the 850.
Of course the last statement is highly speculative because i have no idea what the amp rating for the phone is. But what i do know is that all the parts are made in china and you can bet they are not going to overbuild anything.
If the amp range is 675-832, which is the number I would expect then if the phone draws more than 850 for an extended period of time the units internal fuse could blow. Unless of course you purchased a third party unit that has an external fuse. Then you can jsut replace the fuse and not have to worry about going out to buy Chinese garbage. lolz
but then again i bet this Droid 3 is made in china, oh well. I like it anyway

Where's the high current POGO charger?

For cryin' out loud, I'm tired of watching my battery drain while plugged into the supplied USB charger. It's ridiculous. I've never owned a portable device that discharged under normal use when plugged into its supplied AC adapter. If I want to spend 15 hours a day playing Angry Birds, it should be possible when I have a power source which is virtually unlimited. Twice, I've started the day with a full battery, had the device plugged in to the supplied 2 amp charger all day, and had <10% left on the battery when I went to bed. (No, I don't actually play Angry Birds for more than a few minutes at a time but I do use the device a lot.)

jtown said:
For cryin' out loud, I'm tired of watching my battery drain while plugged into the supplied USB charger. It's ridiculous. I've never owned a portable device that discharged under normal use when plugged into its supplied AC adapter. If I want to spend 15 hours a day playing Angry Birds, it should be possible when I have a power source which is virtually unlimited. Twice, I've started the day with a full battery, had the device plugged in to the supplied 2 amp charger all day, and had <10% left on the battery when I went to bed. (No, I don't actually play Angry Birds for more than a few minutes at a time but I do use the device a lot.)
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I don't have that problem. You do know that your device will wait till it drops some percentage before it starts charging again. It won't keep it at 100% the whole time... Is meant to conserve your battery life

smartadmin said:
I don't have that problem. You do know that your device will wait till it drops some percentage before it starts charging again. It won't keep it at 100% the whole time... Is meant to conserve your battery life
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Let's pretend I've got just a little experience with portable devices. The standard is to float between 95 and 100% charge and just call it "charged" once it's bounced off 100% the first time.
Here's a test you can do that requires no time on your part. Set it up to play a long movie while it's plugged in. Look at the charge level after it's been going for a couple of hours. And you don't have to take my word for it. I'm hardly the only person complaining that the supplied charger is not capable of keeping up with the device's power requirements.

If you are seeing power drop during normal use while plugged in I'd talk to Google. You may have a defective unit. Mine doesn't do that and I regularly see 20+ hour days with normal use unplugged and usually with some video, browsing, games etc.
Take note off when you see the drop, how much you lose over a given amount off time and call Google and see if this is expected. I'm sure they will help. They have been very responsive when I've called.
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groaner said:
If you are seeing power drop during normal use while plugged in I'd talk to Google. You may have a defective unit. Mine doesn't do that and I regularly see 20+ hour days with normal use unplugged and usually with some video, browsing, games etc.
Take note off when you see the drop, how much you lose over a given amount off time and call Google and see if this is expected. I'm sure they will help. They have been very responsive when I've called.
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I will watch like 1 hour of Streaming Vid's and loose like 4-5% while plugged in.

100% brightness causes my device to use more power then what's being supplied from the wall charger, and a few other people have confirmed similar incidents as well.
Max your brightness, and then go play a 3D game, while being plugged into the wall charger, and watch the percentage drop still

My tablet lasts a few days at least before needing a charge. I plug it in over night and it charges to full. I couldn't be more happier with it considering it is not self-sufficient.

Mine drops a few % per hour in use with the stock charger connected. Brightness at 50%, WiFi on, BT off. I'm not going to whine about it, but its the only thing that's not great with this tab.
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Why do everyone seems to think that the POGO-charger would be able to charge the Nexus faster?
I've read on an Ipad forum that about 10-15 hours charging are normal (the Ipad 4 has a 42,5Wh battery), and their chargers give as much Watt as our Nexus chargers.
One thing is clear, you can't increase the voltage. That would kill your Nexus right away.
My Samsung charger I recieved with my Nexus 10 says 5V out and 2A.
5*2= 10W.
Isn't that the same rates that other tabs have, even if they got special chargers?
So, the only thing the POGO-charger could raise, is the amount of current.
Even if you had a 10A charger, if the Nexus cant use more than 2A, it wouldn't get anymore amps than 2.
If the kernel on the Nexus doesn't support any higher charger rates, then you cant change anything.
There is a reason why the manufacturers have set 5V as standard - to make it work together with USB.
Battery Specs: Samsung Li-Ion 3.75V 22.75Wh 9000 mah.
So, it's easy. If you had a 1W charger, it would take 22,75 hours to get a fully charged battery.
In theory, it should take 2,75 hours to fully charge the Nexus 10 battery, but we don't turn it off, we use it while charging, it uses background sync and I dont know what the efficiency rating is on the charger or the Nexus.
You know you could feel some heat on the back of the Nexus 10 after some usage?
That's some of the battery's energy that spoils into heat, meaning that there are power losses.
It's normal though, we don't have anything yet on earth that could convert 100% energy from one form to another.
You could compare it to a car, you need a cooler-system to remove the excessive heat from the engine.
Even if your Nexus is far more efficient.

Olaeli said:
Why do everyone seems to think that the POGO-charger would be able to charge the Nexus faster?
I've read on an Ipad forum that about 10-15 hours charging are normal (the Ipad 4 has a 42,5Wh battery), and their chargers give as much Watt as our Nexus chargers.
One thing is clear, you can't increase the voltage. That would kill your Nexus right away.
My Samsung charger I recieved with my Nexus 10 says 5V out and 2A.
So, the only thing the POGO-charger could raise, is the amount of current.
Even if you had a 10A charger, if the Nexus cant use more than 2A, it wouldn't get anymore amps than 2.
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Please do not speculate about how much current can go through the pogo connection. Speculation is worthless and helps nobody. The fact that the included charger only puts out 2 amps probably has to do with limitations of the USB connection. But I'm speculating. See how pointless that is? The fact that one connection is limited to 2 amps doesn't mean all power connections are limited to 2 amps.
And where did I say anything about increasing the voltage? I'm not an idiot and didn't suggest such a stupid thing.
As for temperature, that can easily be monitored during charging and the current can be reduced if it gets too high. You are aware that there is a temperature sensor for the battery, right?
None of which has a darn thing to do with my opinion that it's unacceptable to produce a device that uses more power than it can get from its AC adapter. If there really is no way to run the Nexus 10 at full tilt without supplementing the AC adapter with battery power, Samsung should have addressed that problem before going into production with this unit. This isn't a $150 entry level device. It's the Android flagship.

Olaeli said:
Why do everyone seems to think that the POGO-charger would be able to charge the Nexus faster?
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A person that supposedly has said charger mentioned that it seemed to charge faster.

jtown said:
Please do not speculate about how much current can go through the pogo connection. Speculation is worthless and helps nobody. The fact that the included charger only puts out 2 amps probably has to do with limitations of the USB connection. But I'm speculating. See how pointless that is? The fact that one connection is limited to 2 amps doesn't mean all power connections are limited to 2 amps.
And where did I say anything about increasing the voltage? I'm not an idiot and didn't suggest such a stupid thing.
As for temperature, that can easily be monitored during charging and the current can be reduced if it gets too high. You are aware that there is a temperature sensor for the battery, right?
None of which has a darn thing to do with my opinion that it's unacceptable to produce a device that uses more power than it can get from its AC adapter. If there really is no way to run the Nexus 10 at full tilt without supplementing the AC adapter with battery power, Samsung should have addressed that problem before going into production with this unit. This isn't a $150 entry level device. It's the Android flagship.
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Please, you started speculating about a high-current POGO-charger that doesn't exist.
Sure, you didn't mention the voltage, but I ve seen comments about it before, so I just wanted to make it clear.
And I didn't say the temperature was a problem either, just that it lowers the efficiency of the charger and the device.
Samsung maybe didn't know there was a charging problem.
We've seen examples before that manufacturers don't test their products enough.
(ASUS Transformer with encased aluminum body, anyone?)
And I know, this is supposed to be a flagship, but what everyone forgets is that it's much cheaper than other brands.
I was looking forward to buy a ASUS TF700 with keyboard at almost twice the price as the Nexus 10 before I read about the Nexus.
Even if it doesn't justify the charging problem, you could try to adapt to the circumstances until there's a solution.
When I'm low on battery, I let the device charge and do something else for a change.
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Edit: If you look at the pictures of the POGO-charger that's across the internet, the charger is still only 5V, 2A.

Olaeli said:
Please, you started speculating about a high-current POGO-charger that doesn't exist.
Sure, you didn't mention the voltage, but I ve seen comments about it before, so I just wanted to make it clear.
And I didn't say the temperature was a problem either, just that it lowers the efficiency of the charger and the device.
Samsung maybe didn't know there was a charging problem.
We've seen examples before that manufacturers don't test their products enough.
(ASUS Transformer with encased aluminum body, anyone?)
And I know, this is supposed to be a flagship, but what everyone forgets is that it's much cheaper than other brands.
I was looking forward to buy a ASUS TF700 with keyboard at almost twice the price as the Nexus 10 before I read about the Nexus.
Even if it doesn't justify the charging problem, you could try to adapt to the circumstances until there's a solution.
When I'm low on battery, I let the device charge and do something else for a change.
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Edit: If you look at the pictures of the POGO-charger that's across the internet, the charger is still only 5V, 2A.
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I have a nexus 10, nexus7, and a Tf700. I am noticing slightly faster charging on the n10 using the Tf700 ac adapter. The same is true when trying to charge my tf700. The stock samsung n10 ac adapter charges it slower than the asus transformer adapter. The same is true with my nexus 7 adapter. Ive used the n7 adapter to charge my tf700 and it was not as quick a charge. Meanwhile all 3 units are rated for 5v 2amp.

Olaeli said:
We've seen examples before that manufacturers don't test their products enough.
(ASUS Transformer with encased aluminum body, anyone?)
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I wonder what all they did test if they somehow managed to miss that...
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I have a nexus 10, nexus7, and a Tf700. I am noticing slightly faster charging on the n10 using the Tf700 ac adapter. The same is true when trying to charge my tf700. The stock samsung n10 ac adapter charges it slower than the asus transformer adapter. The same is true with my nexus 7 adapter. Ive used the n7 adapter to charge my tf700 and it was not as quick a charge. Meanwhile all 3 units are rated for 5v 2amp.
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Could be possible the N10 charger isn't actually putting out 2A? Might need a multimeter or something to verify for sure though...

I am currently out of town so keep in mind I didn't have a chance to dig too deep but I've given the kernel a quick look through.
There is no such thing as the "high current pogo charger." The pogo pins accept 2A max and appears to be ~5V. The USB connector has the same limits.
I also took a look at the current at the battery to make sure the charger was being detected correctly. My 1A Samsung non-Nexus 10 charger seems to supply ~900ma to the battery which is as much as you should expect out of a 1A charger. My Nexus 10 charger supplies ~1600ma to the battery. This number seems slightly low but at least indicates the charger is detected correctly.
*If* the pogo charger does indeed charge faster, it will likely be because the pogo charger is able to supply some current that is asymptotically closer to 2A. In other words, it will not charger much faster than the USB charger.
On the other hand, the pogo charger will still be nice to have as it will allow simultaneous usage of USB OTG and charging.
Like I said before, I was unable to dig very deep because I'm out of town and browsing sysfs and kernel source on a tablet isn't the best experience. So, the info I found might not be 100% correct.

dalingrin said:
There is no such thing as the "high current pogo charger." The pogo pins accept 2A max and appears to be ~5V.
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Please show some proof/references for this statement.

Valynor said:
Please show some proof/references for this statement.
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There are many indicators throughout the kernel but for brevity I'll post what I think is the most concise.
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...ng/arch/arm/mach-exynos/board-manta-battery.c
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Sets the current to 500ma if USB is detected on the pogo or 2A if AC is detected.

Well if you're reading 1600ma using the standard ac adapter that comes with the N10 and possibly closer to 2000ma (say 1900ma) using the pogo, then that is 1/5 faster charging. In terms of time that is quite a saving.
Of course, that is all speculation

USB current limits
I thought I'd post this as information I found while doing a spot of light reading
The current specification of a USB 2.0 port can be a maximum of 1.8A. Within Constraints.
"Battery Charging Specification 1.1: Released in March 2007.
A usb charging port places a termination resistance between D+ and D- to allow the maximum 1.8A", meaning that at this current, there can be no data transmission.
This appears to be increased for USB 3.0 standard.
"Battery Charging Specification 1.2: Released in December 2010.
Several changes and increasing limits including allowing 1.5A on charging ports for unconfigured devices, allowing High Speed communication while having a current up to 1.5A and allowing a maximum current of 5A."
citations come from documents here:
http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs
As POGO pins do not have to follow any specification the only limit is the current the board & charging circuit can handle.

Look at the specs on the wall plug in unit. It's not a charger it's a 5V power supply and the charger is inside the N10. However the charger is setup determines the charging rate. Like mentioned above, it may not matter if you "could" use a 10A at 5V power supply.

Why do wall chargers take forever to charge battery?

Got it from eBay.
Charges faster in phone...while using!
If battery is around 40% it being be charged overnight.
Anyone else experience this?

could be the amp? maybe below 1 amp? Samsung charger has 2amps om it. check your charger and look for the amp. btw. the lower the amp the better for your battery..

Buy an OEM charger. The Samsung one is $50 from Samsung website but you can get the Asus charger from Google play store for $25. Both are two ampbi believe. Or you can get the 1a for $25 from samsung. Getting OEM directly from an OEM or authorized reseller or a storefront lime Google is key. Getting cheap chargers is gonna bite you in the ass one day or think about it like this. Why keep wasting time buying cheap chargers again and again when you can put up proper money and get quality in one go and have peace of mind for a few years. I even stopped buying chargers from amazon because they're just cheap knockoffs too. Phi hong makes good chargers and power supplies but they are harder to source. Phi hong came with my nexus one andy galaxy nexus OEM Home dock.
Anyways, aside from that part of the reason for slow charging is you probably have an unsafe charger that is not rated what it really is and is made of poor materials. Getting a quality 1a or higher, preferably 2a in this case and your gnote2 should charge @ 1.8a. In other words, you can charge from zero to full in ~2-2.5 hours. Or from partially full to 100% in less than 2 easily.
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Unless I am mistaken, OP is referring to battery chargers, not usb chargers. That's how I charge mine, too. I have spare batteries, and they all get charged directly. When my battery is low, I just swap. I hate having my phone attached to a cord, even at night.
Yes, all the battery chargers I've had for every device (including this one) have been lower amp than the usb chargers supplied with the phone. It is especially slow for this huge battery for the Note 2. While it bothers me in concept, it's never actually been an issue for me, so I haven't done anything about it. I don't know if higher amp battery chargers are available, but I don't feel like spending extra money on one.
As far as battery health goes, charging at a lower amperage certainly isn't hurting the battery. If anything, it's actually better for it.

Yes...charging just the battery with wall charger.
@ 40% it will not be charged at 6am when I wake!!!
Are there better wall chargers?

Why do you hate having your phone attached to a Cord overnight. I heard that's fine and do it every night.!
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Unless I am mistaken, OP is referring to battery chargers, not usb chargers. That's how I charge mine, too. I have spare batteries, and they all get charged directly. When my battery is low, I just swap. I hate having my phone attached to a cord, even at night.
Yes, all the battery chargers I've had for every device (including this one) have been lower amp than the usb chargers supplied with the phone. It is especially slow for this huge battery for the Note 2. While it bothers me in concept, it's never actually been an issue for me, so I haven't done anything about it. I don't know if higher amp battery chargers are available, but I don't feel like spending extra money on one.
As far as battery health goes, charging at a lower amperage certainly isn't hurting the battery. If anything, it's actually better for it.
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rockky said:
Why do you hate having your phone attached to a Cord overnight. I heard that's fine and do it every night.!
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Not for the phone, for me. It just bothers me having a wireless device locked to a wall. There's no reason for it. And I frequently get up in the night for various reasons (kids, work, insomnia, etc), and it bugs me unplugging in the middle of a charge cycle.
Incidentally, a non-removable battery was a deal breaker, and one of the reasons I didn't get a Nexus 4. I got used to never plugging in my last phone, and I don't want to go back. It was torture the first week or two with the N2 before my spare batteries arrived.

The charger should have its output printed on it, I've had a look at the pics on ebay and the first two I found that I could read were 500mA and 350mA, the original charger is 2A or 2000mA. Samsung make there own battery charger http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...es/EB-H1J9VNEGSTD?subsubtype=other-multimedia the output is 1.7A so much closer to the original usb charger.
I'd be worried about my back cover getting loose doing what you do. I had three batteries for my old phone, but I did not swap them on a daily basis, just when travelling or away from power for an extended time. I've ordered some wireless chargers so I can have one by my bed and another downstairs. I know they only output 500mA too, but for an overnight charge thats fine for me. I dont think there is any issue with interrupting the charge cycle, the two main enemies of lithium batteries are heat and being totally/almost discharged on a regular basis. Its best to keep them topped up.

scote said:
The charger should have its output printed on it, I've had a look at the pics on ebay and the first two I found that I could read were 500mA and 350mA, the original charger is 2A or 2000mA. Samsung make there own battery charger http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/...es/EB-H1J9VNEGSTD?subsubtype=other-multimedia the output is 1.7A so much closer to the original usb charger.
I'd be worried about my back cover getting loose doing what you do. I had three batteries for my old phone, but I did not swap them on a daily basis, just when travelling or away from power for an extended time. I've ordered some wireless chargers so I can have one by my bed and another downstairs. I know they only output 500mA too, but for an overnight charge thats fine for me. I dont think there is any issue with interrupting the charge cycle, the two main enemies of lithium batteries are heat and being totally/almost discharged on a regular basis. Its best to keep them topped up.
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It looks like the OEM battery charger is available on ebay for around $15. That's good to know in case mine ever crap out on me. These cheapies that I get tend to.
As far as the back cover getting loose, after 3 months, it is a little bit looser than when it was new. 1.5 years with my G2x didn't loosen it at all, but the build quality on that thing was fantastic. I keep this in a case anyway, so it being a little looser goes unnoticed. If it gets bad, back cover replacements are cheap.

If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
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UnixSlayer said:
If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
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But what is the point of having it charge fast, when all it is is going to drain faster?
I charge mine overnight with a charger rated at 750mah I believe and it last me a whole day. As oppose to using a 2.1 am charger I have, where the battery percentage would start dropping by the first hour.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but this is what I've notice with my last few phones.

The Perseus kernel with stweaks has the ability to change the charging parameters.
With it overclocked/undervolted I am getting better life than I did on stock.
Not for sure what you mean as it depleting the charge faster on a higher amperage charger. Kind of sounds like you may have had failing batteries, etc.

There seem to be a few misunderstandings here regarding batteries and chargers.
1) The charge rate, when the battery is in the phone, is controlled BY the phone. The charger itself just supplies regulated power to the phone. How much current is put into the battery at any given time is up to the phone, which is why kernels can do things like fast charge, it's controlled by the kernel. Now, the reason the battery charges faster when using the stock charger vs. something lower current or a computer is simple. The phone can detect what it's connected to within some limitations. It sounds like our phone can also sense the incoming voltage levels and back off if the supply becomes unstable.
2) Using the stock 2A charger is "harder" on the battery than a lower current charger. Not true, at least not within any margin of error you will be able to detect without specialized equipment. Lipo batteries are generally built to charge/discharge at 1C. C in this case stands for capacity. So our 3100mah batteries can charge at 3.1Amp and be within safety margin. So the 2Amp charger the phone comes with is perfectly fine for the battery. Without seeing a datasheet for the battery from Samsung, that's a good guess. And again, the phone controls the charge current based on a number of parameters. You could connect the phone to a 5V supply capable of 100Amp and it will still only use what it needs.
3) The percentage readout on the phone screen is a GUESS. Don't pay it too much attention. For this same reason, evaluating 3rd party batteries based on phone runtime etc is not useful. To validate the battery capacity with any accuracy requires a test setup discharging the battery through a known load and measuring how long it takes to get to a cutoff voltage. I've done some of these tests myself on stock and 3rd party batteries. In general, the OEM batteries are always at or above spec, the 3rd party battery manufacturers lie. Often by upward of 20%. Even the high $ batteries. Keep that in mind when shopping if you want extras or extended batteries.
4) Interrupting the charge cycle is bad. Nope. It's fine. On this same line of thought, full cycles ARE bad. Don't do it. Don't think too much about it either though. Just plug it in when convenient. Or set it on the wireless charger if you've installed one. Generally speaking, they actually don't like to be charged to 100% either. Keeping it at 20%-80% is actually best for the longevity of the battery cell itself. In practice, you will probably have a new phone before any of this is actually noticeable.
The OP sounds like they are talking about a stand-alone charger, where the battery is not in the phone. Those will vary wildly in quality and capability, particularly from ebay. They are probably cheap POS devices. Not that that's really a bad thing, just know about it. It's probably a very low charge rate device, perhaps even down to 100ma or so. That would take forever to charge our larger batteries. As for if there is a better one, probably. If Samsung makes one, it will probably charge faster than the phone with the provided charger plug as there would be no load from the phone using power. Of course, it will cost a lot more as well. Look for devices that at least claim they will charge at 2Amp or so. In practice, they will probably be a lot lower, but your chances are improved. Not many people will break out an ammeter and check, after all.

UnixSlayer said:
If one of the devs can make the kernel capable of fastcharge, it would not take but half the time to charge. Yank who is working with Faux on his kernel, helped make the kernel fast charge capable.
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Perseus kernal has fast charging settings.

What ttabbal wrote is mostly correct. But the problem lies within some input voltage protection logic tied to the charger chip of the phone which is extremely (and too much so) sensitive.
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Perseus kernal has fast charging settings.
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Can people stop calling it fast-charge, it's an idiotic term which technically means nothing. While most kernels have some sort of charging speed configuration options, they're all useless in regard to this problem as the current in the end is decided by a different logic. You'll have to disable unstable power detection and that's the only way to make it work and fix the problem, unless you go hunting down high quality cables and chargers.
Personally I also encountered the problem as my stock S3 charger, as many others here have reported, has deteriorated and it would only charge at an effective 300mA. I disabled unstable power detection and now it charges at the full given current limits, without any issues.

rockky said:
Got it from eBay.
Charges faster in phone...while using!
If battery is around 40% it being be charged overnight.
Anyone else experience this?
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You have to make sure it's "2a" charger capacity. It happened to me once. Go to monoprice.com and search for a universal 2a charger... pretty cheap

[Q] HTC One Restricted Charge Rate?

Here goes.....
I've been struggling with charging this phone. I have both the Sprint and the T-Mobile versions and I'm seeing the exact same thing with both. This phone simply won't pull more than roughly 600ma from a charger. With the best of equipment (chargers, cables, clean regulated power, etc etc) a ~600ma (+/- 15ma) is all I ever see at max draw.
I've tried all sorts of chargers including several stock. Same for cables. I know some cables are crappier than others and can restrict current....those that I found did that were tossed in the trash (don't want to keep the fubar cables anyway).
The phones have been in various states of operation too....from one extreme to the other....under heavy benchmark load to "first run" state from a complete reset (full wipe) with airplane mode on.
I said I have a "problem" above. What I mean is that my use-case is such that I use navigation with bluetooth streaming for podcast listening during my commute to and from work everyday. While I'm at work I plug into my TV to playback video podcasts via MHL. At best.....BEST....I can maintain my current state of battery. In other words, if I'm 39%, it'll stay thereabout when I'm plugged into a charger in either case.
No..."Power Saver" doesn't help. What I think would actually help is if power saver had the ability to disable some cores in addition to just governing to 1.1Ghz across all four.
To have a kickass phone that you really honestly can't truly kick ass with feels weird. This thing simply discharges faster than it can charge under any real world load. Maybe my personal use case is unconventional but I feel like it's not THAT unconventional seeing as that the features I use wouldn't be built in if no one ever used them, ya know?
I first noticed this behavior with my previous phone, the EVO 4G LTE. Even though the behavior was there, it wasn't as bad or noticeable due to what I think is the fact it was only dual core...maybe other factors too. But I'm not a developer/engineer so my observations are only from the outside looking in.
I know I can "tweak" my behaviors -- "...do this, or do that. Disable this, or disable that." I understand these things. But having to disable a bunch of things sorta goes against the idea of having this device in the first place.
At the end of day, my observations are my own and I know some are going to suggest I'm "holding it wrong" or whatever, but you guys gotta admit there's something up here with the very limited charge rate.
All that said, I still enjoy the phone. :angel:
PS - I've been using this to monitor current/voltage. The tool has been verified to be working properly by two EE's at my work.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SATA-Cables-Voltage-Current/dp/B005Z1E3IY

The stock charger. How much does that one show it pulls?
Because I have a 1a charger for my car and I can have the screen on the entire time and it charges, slower, but it charges.

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The stock charger. How much does that one show it pulls?
Because I have a 1a charger for my car and I can have the screen on the entire time and it charges, slower, but it charges.
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Same same.....doesn't matter the charger capability. Peak draw at any one time seems to be roughly 600ma...+/-. As the charge of the phone gets closer to full, the rate tapers off to roughly 200ma and then to about 80ma as it gets really really close.
I know HTC is trying to protect the battery, but I really get the feeling that this is way over-protective.
I took a picture with my Sprint ONE of my T-Mobile ONE on a 2.1amp wall charger. Notice, at roughly 1/2 charge, it's only pulling about 600ma. Too daggon slow in my opinion.

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Same same.....doesn't matter the charger capability. Peak draw at any one time seems to be roughly 600ma...+/-. As the charge of the phone gets closer to full, the rate tapers off to roughly 200ma and then to about 80ma as it gets really really close.
I know HTC is trying to protect the battery, but I really get the feeling that this is way over-protective.
I took a picture with my Sprint ONE of my T-Mobile ONE on a 2.1amp wall charger. Notice, at roughly 1/2 charge, it's only pulling about 600ma. Too daggon slow in my opinion.
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I assume you mean a 2.1a charger from a Samsung product, that won't work. Samsung uses some signaling on the D+/D- wires to show "This is a Samsung product, charge at 2.1a"
HTC One does not have the ability to offer this signaling and thus will charge at usb rates of 500-600.
Some products short the data wires of the USB to signal that it can supply extra power. This is the type of signaling the HTC One can use. You would need a charger with this capability.
If you don't mind, if you could take a picture of the same setup with the stock charger, that would help.
EDIT: This particular device you've linked seems to block any signaling, according to the reviews on Amazon. I think your problem may lie there.

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I assume you mean a 2.1a charger from a Samsung product, that won't work. Samsung uses some signaling on the D+/D- wires to show "This is a Samsung product, charge at 2.1a"
HTC One does not have the ability to offer this signaling and thus will charge at usb rates of 500-600.
Some products short the data wires of the USB to signal that it can supply extra power. This is the type of signaling the HTC One can use. You would need a charger with this capability.
If you don't mind, if you could take a picture of the same setup with the stock charger, that would help.
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I understand what you mean. Note that in all my rambling on about various cables and chargers, if I wasn't explicit, I was implicit in that I've tried HTC stock gear too. Same results, no matter.
I do own and did try a few Samsung chargers and cables in addition to the myriad of others. I'm aware of Samsung's irritating attempts to lock people into using their accessories, thus the signaling modifications, but wanted to try them anyway. That's why I used a whole bunch of different chargers and cables. Some are not-so-good and others are great. The one charger I prefer is from VENTEV. It's a dual-port 4.2amp (2.1/per) wallwart.
http://www.amazon.com/Ventev-Wall-Charger-Dual-2-1A/dp/B00BEJSRDI
What I'm saying overall is that the big picture here suggests that we can't pull more than the peak 600ma or so charge rate, no matter what combination of doo-dads you toss at the phone. I'm all in if HTC has some super-secret special vapor rub one can use to charge faster, but even the stock charger they give us in the box which supports 1AMP doesn't deliver that since the phone itself doesn't pull more than what I've seen.
In the attached pics, the one of the charger is the Ventev. The other three show my T-mobile ONE just hit 90% charge and the rate has dipped to about 400ma on average. I took three snaps to show that it does fluctuate a bit. It'll ramp down more at about 95% or so and even more at 99%...................ALL of which is to be expected, I know.
To be clear, at this point, and what you see in these pics, is the stock HTC wall charger that we all get in the box with the phone, the stock HTC microUSB cable, and the measuring tool that is plugged into charger which the cable is then plugged into to then charge the phone. The meter can handle just over 2amps before it pops the internal fuse.
-Doug, KG3EK

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I understand what you mean. Note that in all my rambling on about various cables and chargers, if I wasn't explicit, I was implicit in that I've tried HTC stock gear too. Same results, no matter.
I do own and did try a few Samsung chargers and cables in addition to the myriad of others. I'm aware of Samsung's irritating attempts to lock people into using their accessories, thus the signaling modifications, but wanted to try them anyway. That's why I used a whole bunch of different chargers and cables. Some are not-so-good and others are great. The one charger I prefer is from VENTEV. It's a dual-port 4.2amp (2.1/per) wallwart.
http://www.amazon.com/Ventev-Wall-Charger-Dual-2-1A/dp/B00BEJSRDI
What I'm saying overall is that the big picture here suggests that we can't pull more than the peak 600ma or so charge rate, no matter what combination of doo-dads you toss at the phone. I'm all in if HTC has some super-secret special vapor rub one can use to charge faster, but even the stock charger they give us in the box which supports 1AMP doesn't deliver that since the phone itself doesn't pull more than what I've seen.
In the attached pics, the one of the charger is the Ventev. The other three show my T-mobile ONE just hit 90% charge and the rate has dipped to about 400ma on average. I took three snaps to show that it does fluctuate a bit. It'll ramp down more at about 95% or so and even more at 99%...................ALL of which is to be expected, I know.
To be clear, at this point, and what you see in these pics, is the stock HTC wall charger that we all get in the box with the phone, the stock HTC microUSB cable, and the measuring tool that is plugged into charger which the cable is then plugged into to then charge the phone. The meter can handle just over 2amps before it pops the internal fuse.
-Doug, KG3EK
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I was directed here from another section of the forum. Have you tried using this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
With the stock charger it's telling me that I'm pulling in just under 950mA during peak charging and tapering off as it gets full.

i used a samsung 0,7C charger and it charges at a conntat +800 mah
the HTC chargers also sometime speaks a 900mah + but typically aroung 200 - 700 mah +
it seesm t fluctuate more often than the samsung which fluctuates to a lwoer range when bnearing 100% charge.

Dude, I have the same problem with my EVO LTE, exactly as you describe it, but for some weird reason, my car charger charges my phone normally while other chargers will take several hours to fully charge. I really hope it's a problem with the chargers and not our phones :thumbup: :thumbdown:
Sent from my EVO

Hi. So based on what people have posted, does this mean that there isn't much difference charging it from the wall socket and from a usb port in a computer? Since then charging rate is around 700-600mah and a usb charges at around 500mah
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http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-doesnt-support-qualcomm-quick-charge-20130509/

So I download that app, and no matter what I do with my settings, I cannot get my phone to charger faster than about 550mAh. I am currently running at 384MHz CPU, 200MHz GPU, and Force Charge (On/Off), and 50mV undervolt. With the phone just laying there (screen on 65% battery), as I stare it currently saying +529mA (+23.00% /h).
I just tried playing a game, with those same exact settings and it stated charging at +217mah.
Edit: Was redirected here and didn't notice it was an old topic. sorry for reviving?

wireless charging

Hi this is my first phone that is capable of wireless charging. I have the pixel stand but I only like to charge my phone to 80 not 100. It greatly extends the overall life of the battery. Is there a way to make it trickle charge so I can just put it on my stand and go to sleep? I thought I read somewhere if you use a different wireless charger other than the pixel stand it wont charge at its max 10w. Is that true and can anyone recommend a wireless charger stand that would trickle charge my phone?

The phone mostly decides how charging is done. This is the same for wired charging. The charger has no idea how charged the phone is, so it doesn't know when to stop. Even if it is very slow, it won't stop until 100%.
Your phone would need to be rooted in order to have an application control/stop charging at a certain point. (I use Battery Charge Limit with custom settings)
Alternately without root, there are chargers with Bluetooth that can pair with an app to disable charging at the charger level when the app tells it to stop.

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Hi this is my first phone that is capable of wireless charging. I have the pixel stand but I only like to charge my phone to 80 not 100. It greatly extends the overall life of the battery. Is there a way to make it trickle charge so I can just put it on my stand and go to sleep? I thought I read somewhere if you use a different wireless charger other than the pixel stand it wont charge at its max 10w. Is that true and can anyone recommend a wireless charger stand that would trickle charge my phone?
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Two methods I've tried without root on my Pixel 4 XL:
Go-to Google Play and search "Chargie". This method requires a Bluetooth connection with a USB adapter inline with your charger. I tried this first but found it unreliable and a battery drain. I emailed the developer a few times and asked for improvements with less liability on battery. I'm not sure where that project has progressed since but updates sound like it had improved.
Second method didn't require any additional expense because I had the resources already. This method uses Tasker (no root required), IFTTT and a smart switch of some kind compatible with Webhooks on IFTTT. This tutorial walked me through my first and still only Tasker task. Wasn't hard but took some dedicated time and just a little patience and persistence and motivation. The tut is mostly doable but I can't recall the particulars but Tasker helps helped me to put it together. Something about a default change where I couldn't find the suggested option? Doubtful anyone familiar with Tasker would have an issue at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel2/comments/7vnsmo/how_to_prolong_battery_life_by_using_smart/
This is the method I've stuck with since setting it up. It works and isn't a battery liability. I do get a slow command to release power so I adjust the command % cutoff accordingly (2 or 4%). I didn't use wemo but another smart strip that gave me individual control of its outlets. All credit to the original reddit author and Tasker. Props to IFTTT and Webhooks applet for bringing it together.
I figured I could keep the Chargie USB adapter for traveling away from home or in my car. But one solution I found for my car was to setup a smart watch notification for Accubattery. It works; I get a notification vibe on my watch and unplug the car charger. If I used the Chargie, it would charge to a point and stop charging until phone got to another preset discharge and charge back to the preset point, like 80%.
Good to have options right root. I've rooted my previous phones but with adguard, I took inventory of what I really needed and this was the one I really couldn't do without. Still not rooted. But got a working remedy anyway.
I suppose Accubattery notifications is a third option...
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Thank you both for the suggestions. I have always used acubattery and would unplug.my phone. Now I do the same only unplug the pixel stand. The thing is.i like.some of the features.of the pixel stand. I don't want to bother with root and I understand that the phone is what controls the charging. I will be trying the Tasker and ifttt method. I do have a few.smart pugs from kasa smart so I will see.ifmthey work if not I'll try a different one.
I did read somewhere when the pixel.stand first came out along I th the pixel 3 that the pixel 3 had to be on the pixel stand to charge rapidly and the 3rd party chargers were just a trickle or just not rapid. But I do not know if they have since fixed that with and update or in the pixel 4 itself so I will be trying the above instructions again thank you

mojorisin7178 said:
Thank you both for the suggestions. I have always used acubattery and would unplug.my phone. Now I do the same only unplug the pixel stand. The thing is.i like.some of the features.of the pixel stand. I don't want to bother with root and I understand that the phone is what controls the charging. I will be trying the Tasker and ifttt method. I do have a few.smart pugs from kasa smart so I will see.ifmthey work if not I'll try a different one.
I did read somewhere when the pixel.stand first came out along I th the pixel 3 that the pixel 3 had to be on the pixel stand to charge rapidly and the 3rd party chargers were just a trickle or just not rapid. But I do not know if they have since fixed that with and update or in the pixel 4 itself so I will be trying the above instructions again thank you
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There's still likely a way to also slow the charge with Chargie or swapping the power block that your Pixel stand uses. It's likely using Power Delivery which is quite fast. The slower charge is also better for battery.
Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 is slower but a standard block may be 5V 1Amp. Accubattery can help comparing charging blocks for ideal charge.
What Chargie does is allow you to set a profile with max battery temp and limit charge capacity which will slow it down. You would need USB adapters for the Chargie; it uses USB A male and female connectors.
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Yeah I felt how hot the battery got and did not like that. I could just use the pixel stand and not plug it in. The battery doesn't seem to get that hot when charging with just the wire. But I'm going to look into charge. I like the idea of limiting the battery temp.

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There's still likely a way to also slow the charge with Chargie or swapping the power block that your Pixel stand uses. It's likely using Power Delivery which is quite fast. The slower charge is also better for battery.
Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 is slower but a standard block may be 5V 1Amp. Accubattery can help comparing charging blocks for ideal charge.
What Chargie does is allow you to set a profile with max battery temp and limit charge capacity which will slow it down. You would need USB adapters for the Chargie; it uses USB A male and female connectors.
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I have the type c to a converter that came with my pixel 4. I also have type A to type C cables is that all I need or are you talking about something else? It looks like there is a Male type A for input which I guess would go to the charger and I cant see the other side but Im assuming there is a female Type A for output which would go to the phone/wirless charger. Is that correct? If thats the case I can use two usb A to C wires

mojorisin7178 said:
I have the type c to a converter that came with my pixel 4. I also have type A to type C cables is that all I need or are you talking about something else? It looks like there is a Male type A for input which I guess would go to the charger and I cant see the other side but Im assuming there is a female Type A for output which would go to the phone/wirless charger. Is that correct? If thats the case I can use two usb A to C wires
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Correct.
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Hey I got the chargie last night. Trying to set it up. I have the converter that came with my pixel 4 and I have a few a to c cables. It works great. That was a good call my friend thank you. My only issue now is the stupid pixel stand won't charge wirelessly with those a to c cables. But I have the adapters coming for both sides so will.be using the original charger hopefully that works.
Do you know what a safe temp for the battery is? It's set at 140 but that seems too high to me.

mojorisin7178 said:
Hey I got the chargie last night. Trying to set it up. I have the converter that came with my pixel 4 and I have a few a to c cables. It works great. That was a good call my friend thank you. My only issue now is the stupid pixel stand won't charge wirelessly with those a to c cables. But I have the adapters coming for both sides so will.be using the original charger hopefully that works.
Do you know what a safe temp for the battery is? It's set at 140 but that seems too high to me.
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Wow, that is high. Maybe that's for discharge? But Chargie should use charge temps- see the table and article below for lithium batteries. I didn't recall what my Chargie was originally set to but when I charge mobile devices, I setup with a charger with multiple cables coming from a multiple output USB charger to my air purifier. The forced air coming out at its top cools my devices so I set it to 86°F
This is the max temperature recommended by battery college for fast charging to better protect the battery. I've not monitored it but Accubattery can- use the charging tab. Seems I could go lower with the circulated air.
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_at_high_and_low_temperatures
Edit: maybe Chargie uses an operating temp because it can be left plugged in to charge when it reaches your preset capacity. This is handy for a laptop or tablet on a plane plugged in to charge; charge to 80%, discharge to 45% and charge back to 80% without having to unplug or monitor battery capacity or temperature. Set accordingly and be worry free. 140 seems high but charging when using increases temperature. Set too low and it may not charge until you standby the screen to take the load off the battery. 140 so is max operating temperature but I don't feel that safe in that range. I'd standby that device rather than charge at that temperature. But the device is likely using that temperature range by default.
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I haven't checked what the temp is when charging. I did notice it is hotter when using wireless charging. When chargie is not charging there is no power going to the device because it's basically just a Bluetooth switch. When it reaches it's charge it turns off the power. I have to test to see how long it takes to cool off the battery and that's how I will determine my discharge percentage. Give it enough time to cool off then charge back to 80.

mojorisin7178 said:
I haven't checked what the temp is when charging. I did notice it is hotter when using wireless charging. When chargie is not charging there is no power going to the device because it's basically just a Bluetooth switch. When it reaches it's charge it turns off the power. I have to test to see how long it takes to cool off the battery and that's how I will determine my discharge percentage. Give it enough time to cool off then charge back to 80.
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I agree. That's the likely intention for a phone. But can also be modified to remain plugged in while on a plane. But that's likely a tablet or laptop use.
The profile options were a factor in selecting the Chargie. I still use the Tasker method at home though. And I don't know if still necessary but I always force closed Chargie after using to keep the battery liability low.
I'm interested to know how useful and battery minding you find your new Chargie.
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I agree. That's the likely intention for a phone. But can also be modified to remain plugged in while on a plane. But that's likely a tablet or laptop use.
The profile options were a factor in selecting the Chargie. I still use the Tasker method at home though. And I don't know if still necessary but I always force closed Chargie after using to keep the battery liability low.
I'm interested to know how useful and battery minding you find your new Chargie.
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Well I will report back on this thread and quote you. It be a few days because Amazon seems to be having a problem now..

mojorisin7178 said:
Well I will report back on this thread and quote you. It be a few days because Amazon seems to be having a problem now..
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No worries. I just wanted to know how it went and to read your comments. Totally voluntary on your part as far as sharing comments and when or if you respond.
Sorry for delays from Amazon. I've had a similar from a third party seller in New Jersey. Order was supposed to arrive just before the stay at home order went out- FedEx didn't pick my order up the day the seller said it had shipped. Still sitting there waiting for FedEx to pickup. Seller says FedEx told him they are doing their level best to complete shipments. I don't know about New Jersey but I see delivery trucks every day in my state.
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samep said:
No worries. I just wanted to know how it went and to read your comments. Totally voluntary on your part as far as sharing comments and when or if you respond.
Sorry for delays from Amazon. I've had a similar from a third party seller in New Jersey. Order was supposed to arrive just before the stay at home order went out- FedEx didn't pick my order up the day the seller said it had shipped. Still sitting there waiting for FedEx to pickup. Seller says FedEx told him they are doing their level best to complete shipments. I don't know about New Jersey but I see delivery trucks every day in my state.
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I have been getting deliveries with no problem for the most part. At least once a week or more sometimes (My wife is furloughed and loves amazon) Im in new york and I do see FedEx and UPS all over. UPS had a problem last week that they are still trying to recover from. I dont know what it was but a bunch of stuff was delayed because of it.
Anyway I have spoken to the owner of chargie about a few things. He got back to me right away. The chargie is not compatible with the pixel stand in fact the pixel stand is not compatible with anything other than USB c to USB c. A USB A to USB C cable will not work on the pixel stand. And as it turns out that a good thing. The heat created by rapid charging is really not good for the battery. I now have my chargie plugged into a USB type A cube that charges at 1.5a The discharge is set at 3 and the charge is set to 80. So it discharges to 77 actually when it hits 76 is when the chargie turns on and turns off when it hits 81. The charging temp seems to stay around 90 F. Thats not bad the regular operating temp is around 85.So its really only going up 5-8 degrees when charging. I use accubattery for all my stats. My current screen on time is 12 hours and 30 minutes! Thats fantastic if you ask me. And currently my batteries health is being reported at 101% So almost no wear on it so far.
I want to thank you for pointing me in the right direction I never would have found this without your help. Its nice to see that there are still some good hearted people on XDA. I was around when it was still relatively new and everything I know about android I learned from the great devs and other enthusiasts. And I like sharing what I have learned and what setups work for me. I feel like I am giving back to the community so I will always share my feedback and what not.

101 % battery health is great. Doesn't appear the heat has effected your battery, not yet at least. I started limiting my charge to 80% capacity when I saw the health stat start dropping. I'm still at 95% battery health; if I recall correctly, I started limiting when health dropped to 97%. I did see 100% early when the phone was new.
Chargie was not reliable early. I also emailed the developer and he compelled me to join beta and send some logs. I let him know what I was expecting: not run continually and only connect when charging. I believe someone had said that Android can no longer uses USB plugging as a trigger? I don't know if he sorted that yet or not or just can't? But it appears in updates, he's made progress. I hope he does. I just keep the app updated and forced closed until needed again. Won't travel for some time now. But Accubattery alarm notification does well with my Fitbit Versa 2 to notify with a vibration on my wrist when wireless charging in the car reaches its set point.
Sometimes I forget and leave my phone plugged in. Tasker still has me covered if plugged in all night.
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